(Edit March 22, 2020) Perhaps I should have titled this thread "The Great Conjunction of 2020" and left theories about the Mayan Calendar out of it...
Jupiter and Saturn are now only 7 degrees apart. And Mars and Pluto are also included in this party. Things are changing so fast now that I can barely keep up.When Jupiter and Saturn are conjunct, there are enormous shifts in power and fortune. Jupiter being expansive in its influence, Saturn, contractive. Conjunction suggests a state of intensification, concentration. What this indicates to me is the potential for explosive change, good and bad.
I find myself continuously repeating this phrase to myself: "Only Love is Real"...
In any case, here is my original post
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I was doing some research on the Mayan calendar and came across a very interesting hypothesis by a researcher named Christian Irigaray. The official start date of the current Mayan age is 3114 BC:
Mr. Irigaray feels the GMT model is flawed because it doesn’t have any astronomical basis. He feels that the length of a Katun is not a fixed number of days but slightly varies based on the length of time between conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn:This date of 3114 BC for the beginning of the Mayan Era is stipulated by the GMT (Goodman-Martinez-Thompson) correlation of the Mayan Long Count calendar. It is the “official” correlation of the Mayan Long Count calendar, but in fact this GMT correlation is actually only 1 out of 52 correlations proposed since the study of this Long Count system was undertaken by scholars.
You can read more here: https://www.academia.edu/33491408/Th...rican_CalendarAny true astronomer would immediately recognize that these Katun periods of 20 years are linked to the natural 20 year cycle in which Jupiter and Saturn come into conjunction. This conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn is known as the Great Conjunction and it is among the most important of astronomical cycles because it is the natural planetary basis for long term dating (of an Era or Age for example) within the Great Cycle of precession.
The Great Conjunction is the recurrent alignment of Jupiter and Saturn in the heavens from our earthly perspective, and it may be considered as “great” insomuch as it involves the alignment of the most massive planets of the solar system but also because it is the longest period of planetary conjunction visible to the naked eye observer.
And you can browse his other works here: https://independent.academia.edu/ChristianIrigaray
Oh, and if you are wondering when the next conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn is—it’s on December 21st, 2020. I find it very interesting that the exact date of the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction also happens to be on the day of the winter solstice.
Also, it’s interesting to note that the very early writings of David Wilcock (before he was "sidetracked") also placed some focus on the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction:In studying this matter, we spotted another curious astronomical coincidence that indicated that we were on to something on this track. The Great Conjunction of April 17, 3124 BC could have been the original cue for the Mayan Era’s beginning if the katun is a reference to the Great Conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn. This date of beginning for the Mayan Era would provide an end for the Mayan Era on the 260th Great Conjunction of December 21, 2020 AD.
https://divinecosmos.com/books-free-...ayan-calendar/Now, we check in on Maurice Chatelain. This chapter focuses on Chatelain's work in attempting to fit the fundamental counting unit of the Mayan Calendar, the ~20 year katun, into the conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn. Even though we can demonstrate that Chatelain was wrong, the mathematical connection between the cycles graphed by the Maya and the Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions is undeniable.
It was David's statement about Chatelain being "wrong" that triggered something in me to start looking into it more deeply.
I don't know what to make of all this but for those of you hoping for some good doom porn--here it is:
The above quote is from a different book by Mr. Irigaray:In the early 16th century, when the Spanish missionaries began reporting their encounters with Native American cultures, they unanimously began to spot legends and myths among the Maya, Aztec, Inca, etc., which were quite similar (if not identical) to those depicted in Biblical literature. The most obvious, of course, was that of the Great Flood/Universal Deluge because it is universally recounted by all human cultures of this planet.
Fray Francisco Ximénez was a Dominican priest which conserved the famous Maya book Popol Vuh, and he comments:
“…what these [people] said about the flood was also attested at Guatemala by the Achi Indians (these are the Cacchiquels) stating that they had it painted between others of their antiquities […].”
Indeed they did, as is attested in the Dresden Codex and Tikal mural among other examples of ancient Maya depictions of the Deluge. Another Dominican Frair, Bartolomé de las Casas writes:
“there was news about a flood and the end of the world, and they called it Butic, which means deluge of many waters and also judgment, and so they believe that another Butic is yet to come, which is another flood and judgment, not of water, but of fire, which they say has to be the end of the world, in which all creatures will fight each other […].”
The story is more interesting at the hand of the “Relación de la Ciudad de Mérida”: an unedited text that the newly formed “cabildo” (city counsel) wrote in 1579:
They [The Maya of Yucatan] had also news about the fall of Lucifer and the Flood, and that the world shall end by fire, and in order to signify this they performed a ceremony where they painted a caiman that meant the Deluge and the Earth, upon which caiman they made a great pile of wood and put it on fire, and after it was turned into live coal, they flattened it and the main priest passed barefooted over the live coal without being burnt, and after him everybody else who wished also passed, understanding by this that it was the fire that shall finish them all.
Perhaps those who tell us that the Mayas never mention the end of the world, will kindly explain how the above mentioned information is justified.
https://www.academia.edu/3275004/The...eus_Code_I-IV_
Maybe there is something to that micronova talk....
**Update**
In the information above, the author states that if you measure katuns from one Great Conjunction to the next, start at April, 3124 BC, and count 260 of them--you will end up at December, 2020 being the end of the Mayan age. He also mentioned that the starting conjunction coincided exactly with the vernal equinox. I didn't put that in my original post because it seemed a little too much of a coincidence and I wasn't sure I believed it.
I decided to independently verify this and, while it's trivial using Google to verify that the ending date matches the solstice exactly, it's not so easy for a date 5000 years ago. I downloaded Stellarium to go back in time myself to see this. Well, it's true, and I uploaded a screen shot from Stellarium to prove it:
Please note that in Stellarium, the date of 3124 BC = -3123. Also, in dates prior to about 3000 BC, the solstices and equinoxes are not fixed to specific dates like they are now. In the image, the sun is crossing the equatorial line in the sky with the longitude being 0 degrees. Jupiter and Saturn are conjunct at 16°18'20" and 16°19'38" respectively, and the date is April 16, 3124 BC.
To sum this up, if you use this astronomical method to date the katuns, you end up with a beginning and end date that not only coincide with Great Conjunctions, they also coincide exactly with significant solar crossing dates as well.
I must admit that this project started out as an academic exercise for me but seeing this myself in Stellarium made it much more real now. I encourage anyone who is curious to try this themselves.
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In order to use a long-term calendar that must be correlated with astronomical events, such as Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions that occur, on average, every 20 years, it would also help to have some sort of way to correctly predict when those events would occur. Is there any example of how ancient man could have made accurate predictions like this? As a matter-of-fact, there is. An astronomical mechanical computing device was recovered from the sea off the coast of a Greek island. This device has been dated to 150 BC or possibly much older. It took over a hundred years for scientists to figure out what it was and just how incredibly accurate it was for predicting planetary movements, eclipses, and more.
Here is a video of what is called the "Antikythera Mechanism". It shows the recovered artifact slowly morphing into a 3D replica of how it worked in the past. This device could perform the complex mathematical calculations needed to forecast planetary positions far into the future using gears, a lot of gears. It also used pin-in-slot gears to introduce variable motion to accurately reflect the positions of the planets, sun, and moon, from the perspective of earth.
What if the Mayans (or pre-Mayans) also had a similar device? Researchers say that the Mayan long-count calendar fell into disuse over a 1000 years ago. Why? Was the knowledge needed to use the calendar buried with time? Did they have such a device to predict astronomical events, such as Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions, but somehow it was broken or lost? I wish I knew...
On another subject, even though the official date for the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction isn't until December, 21, 2020, it looks like our solar system planetary line up starts to get interesting next summer. I grabbed this picture from https://www.theplanetstoday.com/the_planets.html The image will be more readable if you click on it.
Next summer is looking rather lop-sided. Whether this is just noise or if this means anything with respect to solar flares, solar magnetic radiation, or something along those lines, I don't know. But for some reason, that picture makes the hair on head stand up.