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    Before it was taken down, his FB page did not exhibit such an intelligent, perfect, "no error" writing style.
    just saying...
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    hm...who benefits the most...

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    Quote Posted by Caliban (here)
    We don't even know if "this guy" wrote that piece.

    We don't even know what really happened there, do we?
    No. I really think we've learned enough over the years to put the word SUPPOSED in front of ANY and EVERY mainstream news story, or 'sub' story about it.

    Take NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING face value.

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    Quote Posted by waves (here)

    Take NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING face value.
    So true. Even with that mantra in hand, we get fooled by assumption after assumption.

    If most people did not take fiat currency at face value the world economy would collapse, for example.

    But I digressed the post so I will re-post with highlight:

    Take NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING face value.

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    His 'manifesto' is reminiscent of Hitler and Nazi ideology on race and purity.

    Hitler’s major written work is Mein Kampf (‘My Struggle’). The first volume was prepared while Hitler was imprisoned, and the second volume thereafter. While Mein Kampf was influenced by other sources, it represents a synthesis of Hitler’s core beliefs, among them that race was a central issue. Germany was, however, focused on race long before Hitler’s rise to power (see Box 1). Reading Hitler’s own words should increase our resolve to avoid future atrocities such as those perpetrated by the Nazis, abetted by the health professions, only 60 years ago.

    Hitler on racial admixture
    Race science flourished in Germany in the early 20th century. According to Silver (2003), Hitler’s policies were influenced by such work. Hitler drew his arguments against the sexual mixing of races from the natural world; for example ‘Such mating is contrary to the will of Nature for a higher breeding of all life’ (p. 258). His analogies refer repeatedly to animals. He believed that such mixed unions were deleterious, because they reduced the superior breed: ‘Any crossing of two beings not exactly the same level produces a mediumbetween the level of the two parents’ (p. 258). Hitler’s denigration of mating between human racial and ethnic groups, as if theywere different species,was scientifically wrong. Hitler’s idea that the offspring of unions of mixed race/ethnic group are inferior does not fit with modern evolutionary theory favouring outbreeding to inbreeding, or what gardeners refer to as ‘hybrid vigour’. To his way of thinking, however, there was only one superior race: ‘Everything we admire on this earth today – science and art, technology and inventions – is only the creative product of a few peoples and originally perhaps of one race’ (emphasis in original, p. 262). From such arguments he drew the inference of harm to his own ‘Aryan’ people from the mixing of peoples: ‘Historical experience offers countless proofs of this. It shows with terrifying clarity that in every mingling of Aryan blood with that of lower peoples the result was the end of the cultured people’ (p. 260), and ‘All great cultures of the past perish only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning’ (p. 262), and ‘Blood mixture and the resultant drop in the racial level is the sole cause of the dying out of old cultures ...’ (p. 269). A policy of enforced sterilisation was promoted, and Hitler perceived this in terms of racial warfare, for in his view the resulting ‘bastardisation’ resulting fromthe troops mating with German girls ruined the blood of the white race (p. 295).

    The philosophy that Hitler promoted did not believe in equality of the races, but rather in the subordination of the inferior and weaker ‘... in accordance with the eternal will that dominates this universe’ (p. 348). He wrote, ‘... in a bastardised and niggerised [sic] world all the concepts of the humanly beautiful and sublime, as well as all ideas of an idealised future of our humanity, would be lost forever’ (p. 348). Hitler’s extreme language on mixing of the races marked the emotional foundations of his arguments, despite their being presented as ostensibly scientific.

    Hitler perceived North America as retaining its culture because it maintained its Germanic character with little racial mixture, in contrast to South America, which he proclaimed had lost this culture because of admixture. The conclusion to Mein Kampf is five short paragraphs. The fourth states: ‘A state which in this age of racial poisoning dedicates itself to the care of its best racial elements must some day become Lord of the earth’ (p. 628). This was a trumpet call for eugenics. The influence upon Hitler of the eugenics movement internationally, and particularly that in the USA, has recently been reviewed by Black (2003).

    Hitler argued that in a racially pure Germany the herd instinct in times of danger and war would have been strong, and the Germans would have been enjoying world domination. Peace would have been supported by the ‘... victorious sword of a master people’ (p. 360). Fortunately, Hitler argued, there are still ‘... great unmixed stocks of Nordic-Germanic people who we may consider the most precious treasure for our future’ (p. 361).


    His thesis was that the contribution of Aryan people stimulated foreign people to achieve.When they reproduced with the Aryans, their new-found advances collapsed, with the degradation of the master race and the subjugated race alike. To quote: ‘The last visible trace of the former master people is often seen in the lighter skin colour which its blood left behind in the subjugated race ...’ (p. 265).

    Hitler was frank that the superior races were exploiters. ‘Without this possibility of using lower human beings, the Aryan would never have been able to take his first steps towards his future culture ...’, he wrote (p. 267), and ‘It is certain that the first culture of humanity was based less on the tamed animals than on the use of lower human beings’ (p. 268). From this stand he argued for slavery as an essential and virtuous means of human progress of Aryans. He bolstered this argument by diminishing the worth of the inferior groups, e.g. ‘All who are not of good race in this world are chaff ’ (p. 269). He employed an argument that is still heard, that even such a state of slavery improved on the previous conditions enjoyed by such inferior races. In subjugating the lower races, Hitler wrote, ‘... perhaps he [the Aryan, my clarification] gave them a fate that was better than their previous so-called ‘freedom’ (p. 268).


    Hitler on the creation of a superior society and the role of medicine
    Only 600 years are required, Hitler said, to achieve a recovery. All that German society needed to do was prevent the physically degenerate and mentally sick from procreating and to promote fertility of the healthiest bearers of the nationality. To achieve the blessing of a highly bred racial stock, the state must not leave matters to chance. Hitler’s ideas for the creation of a superior society were explicitly founded on discrimination, based particularly on racism but also on perceived superiority on other grounds. ‘A folkish state must therefore begin by raising marriage from the level of a continuous defilement of the race, and give it the consecration of an institution which is called up to produce images of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and ape’, said Hitler (pp. 365–6). He deplored the fact that ‘In this ... society, the prevention of the procreative faculty in sufferers from syphilis, tuberculosis, hereditary diseases, cripples, and cretins is a crime ...’ (p. 366) and proclaimed that a People’s (a better translation of Volkisch) state must put race at centre stage and ensure that ... ‘only the healthy beget children’ (p. 367). The medical profession was seen as the torchbearer for this policy. Hitler declared that the country ‘... must put the most modern medical men in the service of this knowledge’ who in turn ‘... must declare unfit for propagation all who are in any way visibly sick or who have inherited a disease ...’. Childbearing was extolled and the state should ‘... take care that the fertility of the healthy woman is not limited by the financial irresponsibility of a state regime ...’ (all p. 367).

    Racial commissions would be required to issue settlement certificates in newly acquired territories, after the individual’s racial purity was established. On citizenship, Hitler argued that racial factors were not given sufficient importance, and deplored the fact that (at least in theory) ‘Even the Zulu Kaffir can become a German’. He praised the United States of America for refusing immigration to the sick and those from some races (as embodied in their 1921 and 1924 Immigration Acts). The ‘folkish’ people’s state that he planned was to have citizens, subjects and foreigners. The citizen was to be privileged and of German nationality. He was to be the lord of the Reich. Those born in Germany but not of German nationality were to be subjects. Hitler proposed that evaluation of race be done on individuals using blood tests because ‘... the blood components, though equal in their broad outlines, are, in particular cases, subject to thousands of the finest differentiations’ (p. 402).

    Hitler believed that leadership must be in the hands of those who possessed the best minds, and these were, in his philosophy, the racially most pure and Aryan. He considered it a sin that a Negro might become a lawyer, ‘... it is criminal lunacy to keep on drilling a born half-ape until people think they have made a lawyer out of him, while millions of members of the highest culture-race must remain in entirely unworthy positions; ... while Hottentots and Zulu Kaffirs are trained for intellectual professions’ (p. 391). Despite these views, Hitler wanted the state to be a meritocracy, picking the most capable people.


    http://diversityhealthcare.imedpub.c...s.php?aid=2567

    If you go through this MURDER's Manifesto you will see the same themes. The talk about corporations owning the nation is true but Hitler saw that too and played it in his speeches but in actuality went to bed with them as a fascist.
    Shame on anyone who thinks this MURDER has some points.

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    Quote Posted by ichingcarpenter (here)
    If you go through this MURDER's Manifesto you will see the same themes. The talk about corporations owning the nation is true but Hitler saw that too and played it in his speeches but in actuality went to bed with them as a fascist.
    Shame on anyone who thinks this MURDER has some points.
    Interesting post.

    In addition, do you realize that righteous indignation is part of that revolving door?

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    Quote Posted by Praxis (here)

    This is what happens when the political establishment openly embraces white nationalism.
    Assuming this attack was the organic response of a lone gunman with a beef, as reported, I strongly condemn violence as a means to effect social change and I agree with almost every part of your post; however I feel compelled to correct the above snippet for the record. If I'm mistaken on this point, by all means I humbly request you correct me.

    The political establishment (and by this I assume you mean the current Administration) is not openly embracing White Nationalism; who or what has led you to that conclusion? I acknowledge the MSM has spun a very subtle agitprop narrative to the contrary, but a very sophisticated agitprop narrative waged against the people does not equate to what is happening in real time. In short, the idea that the current Administration is embracing White Nationalism is entirely false and nothing but an implanted psyop. With some degree of irony, your observation actually describes a public relations campaign waged by an unelected political establishment at odds with the libertarian values on which the country was founded. That is also why (as Ron Mauer Sr. correctly implies above) this entire tragedy may not even be as it appears. It may be a sponsored false flag. Initial reports from eye-witness accounts (from local news organizations without agenda) cite multiple shooters in military-like garb. For now, I reserve judgement on those reports. My intent here is not to debunk the official narrative; it is far too soon to dub this tragedy a false-flag or a conspiracy; the point is, if anything, the actions of this gunman (if this is indeed an organic attack) are the result of diabolical social engineers weaving a campaign of mass public perception. If the tragedy unfolded as reported, it is the media and their underlying political interests who are responsible for inciting racial division and radicalizing this young man; it is not the current government embracing White Nationalism.

    I would also point out to any observers tempted to conflate the current political controversy surrounding immigration into America with White Nationalism (another media fallacy) that America is and always has been the "Great Melting Pot" of all races, creeds, and colors. This used to be the extent of the propaganda we were spoon fed as kids before the agenda changed. As a culture, we pride ourselves on diversity of peoples who maintain a foundation of homogeneous values. Herein is a critical distinction. The political establishment and its propaganda apparatus has co-oped this idea for political expediency to falsely imply America (and especially America in the Age of Trump) is a homogeneous people (White Europeans) who maintain a foundation of diverse values. The latter iteration is complete rubbish and utterly false. Period. The only homogeneous quality to those immigrating into America has nothing whatsoever to do with race, color, or creed; it has to do with political culture and values, i.e. the culture and libertarian values of a system of Constitutional Republic by and for the people. Our nation has a legal immigration process in place to ensure successful acclimation into American culture that has been the law of the land for decades before the Age of Trump. Call it quaint (and perhaps a failed experiment), but we Americans believe in individual liberty and inalienable rights. As the current law stands, those who wish to become Americans must first share these values. It is absolutely astounding the media continually twists immigration into an issue of race. Immigration has everything to do with the former and nothing to do with the latter. The political establishment, however, would like to convince you otherwise and has been attempting to strip us plebs of these inalienable rights ever since we staked a claim to them and proclaimed they were granted to us by God, and not by the State.

    There may be a growing trend of White Nationalists and I assume more tragedies like this might follow. But we need to understand the true origin of this development. Even if the rise of White Nationalism is a response to the broken immigration system and those exploiting the broken system for political expediency, it has nothing to do with the political climate in America "embracing White Nationalism." It has everything to do with the media, its agitprop tactics radicalizing a false narrative, and the underlying agenda. We need to keep our eye on the ball here....

    So far it seems far many of us are taking the bait.
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    On a related note (imho)

    https://theralphretort.com/did-right...iller-0804019/

    Quote The other day, before the two major shootings this weekend, the topic of the blame game that always comes up in the aftermath of such tragedies was broached on my Twitter timeline. I mentioned how I was sick and tired of it, on both sides. That was not a rhetorical play. I actually was, and am, sick of it. Sadly, the same can’t be said of activist hacks like Jared Holt, who writes for the disgusting propaganda website, Right Wing Watch.

    He’s spent the weekend trying to blame various people and entities for the El Paso shooting. 8chan, Mike Cernovich, Ali Alexander, “white nationalism,”…pretty much anything or anyone he doesn’t like. He’s shamelessly tried to use a national tragedy to advance his political goals. This is precisely what I was talking about with my tweets on the subject.

    But, you know, if it’s OK for Mr. Holt to play the game, maybe we should look at his own connections? Earlier today, it was discovered that the Dayton killer, Connor Betts, was a radical leftist Satan worshipper (not kidding) who posted about attacking ICE facilities and “kill[ing] every fascist,” among other gems. Not only that, he also followed the events in El Paso very closely. He was liking posts from various lefties who were sharing their thoughts on the situation.



    That would be bad enough, considering Holt’s strategy to smear his political opponents with crimes they had absolutely nothing to do with. But Hide It Quick Holt decided to take it one step further when he thought no one was looking. Jared went and blocked the shooter’s Twitter account so that his retweets of Holt would no long show up on his timeline. Thankfully, my good friend Gator was there to catch him in the act.
    Absolutely destroyed…



    So, by Jared Holt’s own logic, not only did he seemingly inspire a mass murderer IN REAL TIME, he also went back and tried to delete the evidence that proves his connection to the heinous act. Is this an example of the famous journalistic ethics I’m always hearing so much about?!
    Again, we’re just using his own standard, ladies and gentlemen! How much blood is on Holt’s hands? I’m sure the media will be reporting on this as breathlessly as they have 8chan…the day after Hell freezes over.
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    I am surprised to find no one mentioning the eye witness reports of multiple shooters, dressed head to toe in black and wearing masks. There were 4 different accounts of such I came across over the weekend, from local, not national, media sources.
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    Here’s an account of MSNBC about reports of multiple shooters.

    https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/br...rs-65258565695

    Active shooter situation in El Paso, TX, police have 'reports of multiple shooters'

    An active shooter near the area of a shopping mall in El Paso is drawing a response from multiple law enforcement agencies, including the FBI. El Paso police tweeted at about noon local time that they have "reports of multiple shooters." “


    Update ...... Mmmm

    El Paso police: One in custody, reports of multiple shooters appear inaccurate

    https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/el...te-65260102000

    ???

    Another one of multiple shooters.

    https://rapida.co/multiple-shooters-...texas-walmart/
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    Quote Posted by PurpleLama (here)
    I am surprised to find no one mentioning the eye witness reports of multiple shooters, dressed head to toe in black and wearing masks. There were 4 different accounts of such I came across over the weekend, from local, not national, media sources.
    Because it's a third rail. We all know what happened when Alex Jones questioned Sandy Hook. That was basically the torpedo that sank (or at the very least crippled) his ship.

    Of course Alex may have approached his skepticism with too much impassioned vigor (maybe not the best way to win friends and influence people); but in any case we are all slowly being conditioned to be good little plebs, to keep ourselves in line, to keep quiet, and to not question anything we're being told.
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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    The many thing you said
    The long and short of it Macy is: his actions tells his beliefs not his words. Yeah he has paid attention to history and can analyze economic trends. Big woop.
    It does not matter that he got anything correct. His actions made all his words Garbage.

    He lost all points and value to me when he drove to a town closer to the border to murder brown people because there would be more brown people there.

    Actions are far more important than beliefs or words.

    I bet all his left wing talking points are gonna be twisted by the Q people to say that Dems MKULTRAed this dude and it is just further proof that Trump is seen as dangerous to THEM therefore this all just proves that Trump is the best thing ever.


    And since you mentioned Northwoods, I happen to be writing something about that so I already have the juicy bits. Yall really should take the time to read these three pages.

    What I put there was all the suggestions so you can see that Macy is making a VERY VERY good point. This is Northwoods stuff.

    But what we should be worried about, and I have been since 9-11, is the turning terrorism to the domestic kind so that we can become even more of a prison state.

    You know that southern border wall that people with very low intelligence want? The Wall that keeps them out also keeps us in.
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    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    So far it seems far many of us taking the bait
    The war on drugs we know was specifically created with the goal of neutralizing the anti war movement(hippies) and the black community. We know the CIA used crack as a social disruption device. Nixon Chief of staff let us in on this. We know this.

    If you look at sentencing for drug crimes, powder cocaine(an upper class drug) is punished less than crack ( generally a lower class drug).
    If you look at the prison pop, the numbers also tell a racist story.

    You think I am talking just about this current president that is most definitely using white nationalism calling cards. No, this is systemic. It is not just any one admin. It is all of them to greater or lesser degree.

    I am not going to engage with most of your argument as I dont find it necessary. Needless to say, this didnt start with Trump, but he is certainly using it to his advantage.

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    Alexandra Bruce of ForbiddenKnowledgetv.net has a great video up this morning about the anomalies in the El Paso shooting:
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/el-...to+John+of+God

    One thing in the video that I never heard before is that government agencies for the past many decades have placed large quantities of fully automatic weapons in boxes around inner city train stations for mainly blacks to find and use as they wish. Sounds a little like the "Fast and Furious" operation that was uncovered, doesn't It?
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    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    Alexandra Bruce of ForbiddenKnowledgetv.net has a great video up this morning about the anomalies in the El Paso shooting:
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/el-...to+John+of+God

    One thing in the video that I never heard before is that government agencies for the past many decades have placed large quantities of fully automatic weapons in boxes around inner city train stations for mainly blacks to find and use as they wish. Sounds a little like the "Fast and Furious" operation that was uncovered, doesn't It?
    Thanks Arcturian. This is the YouTube that was in the link.


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    The war on drugs we know was specifically created with the goal of neutralizing the anti war movement(hippies) and the black community. We know the CIA used crack as a social disruption device. Nixon Chief of staff let us in on this. We know this.
    The CIA is a rogue organization directly counter the national interests of United States of America and other nations of the world. You might think of the CIA as a cancer that has invaded a host body. I'm a little unclear how this relates to my comments, but I think we're in agreement.

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    If you look at sentencing for drug crimes, powder cocaine(an upper class drug) is punished less than crack ( generally a lower class drug).
    If you look at the prison pop, the numbers also tell a racist story.
    Again, we are in agreement. You are presenting a socioeconomic observation, which disproportionately effects people of color, which describes a condition of systemic racism, not White Nationalism. Systemic racism and White Nationalism are two different things with critical distinctions. See this thread here.


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    You think I am talking just about this current president that is most definitely using white nationalism calling cards.
    Here we can agree to disagree. The current President may be using nationalism calling cards, and I think we would agree he is using these cards more than his predecessors before him, but I don't see any connection with those cards with "White Nationalism" per se. Nationalism--save for extreme right versions of it, e.g. Hitler's Third Reich for example, has nothing to do with race. It has to do with cultural values. I would submit to you the idea of Nationalism has been co-opted by propagandists to mean "White Nationalism", mainly because pushing the narrative to the extreme right is very effective and convenient to spin an agenda counter to nationalism, e.g. neo-feudal globalism to be precise, but a critical examination of Nationalism--and especially as the current POTUS employs his rhetoric--has nothing to do with Whiteness. It has to do with the ideology of preserving the cultural values of liberty and individual determination.

    I challenge those who too readily embrace the presuppositions delivered and implanted by the current public relations campaign afoot to examine their givens. That said, one can certainly agree or disagree with the idea of Nationalism, but to modify the idea as "White Nationalism" is dishonest and inaccurate.

    If you want to continue this discussion, by all means PM me. As always, I'm open to learning where I might be misguided in judgement.

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    Also, why would someone that thougtful then decide to blast away at a store full of people? For what ultimate end? To get his manifesto out there that shows he cares for this country and its people? Even though he just randomly (we'd assume) shot into a crowded public place?

    Doesn't add up. At all.
    It's pretty obvious that you didn't read the whole thing. He claims that he's going after the "low hanging fruit" as a means of putting fear into the hearts of immigrants, to hopefully discourage further immigration or inspire them to return to their home countries out of fear. In other words: dumb-**** nonsense.

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    Before it was taken down, his FB page did not exhibit such an intelligent, perfect, "no error" writing style.
    just saying...
    Nope - I just read through the entire trash pile of a "manifesto" and found several spelling, grammar, and punctuation errors, including missing words. Seems to me that he wrote this some time before his murder spree and was able to go back and proofread it at least once before posting it.

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    Needless to say, this didnt start with Trump, but he is certainly using it to his advantage.
    There is a growing trend of white nationalism. And also direct, unadulterated racism, hatred expressed toward the Other. I do appreciate T Smith's point about how some of what is being mistaken for racism is, in fact, a disdain for for those who do not fully take on American culture. It would be really something if Drumpf ended up being the President who started rounding up weapons. These attacks are only going to increase in ferocity and number.

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