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    Quote Posted by rogparan (here)
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    As I was a late bloomer to get to the information table , but always knew subconsciously , something wasn't right in school . Trust me , I hear from my own kids mouths what they are told at school , lots to disagree with .
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    using psychological techniques to teach childrens, the educational system can produce people with unshakable faith that "Snow is Black" (Bertrand Russel)

    I suppose most of here must be tired of knowing and agree, but even so, I would like to post my point of view

    the idea is deprive people to bond themselves around a deep moral (or ethical) "authority-principle" or "principle-authority" that old times able to quickly organize a mass voluntary defense of their home land territory, or whatever it is.

    which in older times was addressed people to honor their local races, religions, King-Kingdoms, that today could be represented by a Country State, has been systematically submitted by Subversion to a mass mess of distorted concepts. It's unbelievable what's happening!
    I hear what you're saying . Subversion has always a been a part of what we've known , and to what history has
    "told" us , and still exists today .

    Saying that , there's definitely a shift in consciousness ...

    Look back , to how many years you need to go , and to now , the existence of the internet .

    You have got to believe that there's an up curve in the positivism of mass consciousness .

    How many new souls do you meet a day ? How many of these souls do you feel to be on the cusp of transitioning the way we once have ? Or people you've known for years that it's finally their time for this understanding ? I personally see hope , I personally have seen the progress .

    Of coarse times were harder for our parents and beyond , to say , or even to think and believe of possibilities apart from the status quo ...

    But now ??? The time Is here and NOW and has been....For quite some time ...

    The WWW has been quite an antidote

    (Of coarse it's unbelievable , but most believable )
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    When a government wants to introduce a new policy or structure to government the people, it always gives away carrots so the people being short sighted will respond favorably. Then the carrot is taken away slowly and the people find they already have fallen into the trap and there is no return. At the beginning of the internet there is a sudden burst of great freedom and the joy of instant communication. You can watch free movies, have free discussion in various forums, get information quickly that is undreamed of in the past. These have now been taken away and there is only the feeling of being exposed and watched, big brother right in front of you.

    The internet is rather like a large fish net with shrimps to lure fish in the wide ocean to come together for easy management or seafood. Corbett sees that the net is being lifted. There is every sign of it, since the main goodness of the internet, freedom of information is rapidly taken away from us.

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    Let’s all hiss huge white flags, giving up big time!
    Emulating the effect the ancient romans wanted to suppress by not giving their slaves wristbands so they don’t realize their numbers.

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    Found some of our old YT favorites on Boston, Paris, Orlando and the others.

    You have to tap "Videos" tab each time you go to the home page of this channel. And all of them will then appear again.

    Very thankful this is here. And thanks to Peekay, HowISee theworld, Redsilver J, and others who put a lot of time into doing these.

    https://153news.net/view_channel.php?user=hoaxland

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    It once took me five years to educate a friend about the true goings-on in the world. It was very difficult to do, with much meandering all over the intellectual landscape. The problem wasn't only false beliefs but inaccurate information and great big gaps in comprehension.

    This same individual needed my help with his university work in computer systems and analysis, for which he eventually got a degree.

    Now, I am not some whiz kid, but I know my stuff. It has been my life's work and I am very proud of my accomplishments in this area. His problem wasn't a lack of IQ or ability to think. No, it was mostly very bad teachers. I am a good teacher. That's it. No big secret. I have the ability to hone in on a person's problem and know how to reach them so they can undo the error and correct their internal compass.

    That is the problem with the internet. There is no teacher. Instead it goes by word-of-mouth. The most shared content is the most likely to be seen, censorship aside of course. So what often happens is the most shared videos pass on the most common errors in understanding. There is no learning on the net unless the person is already well informed from other sources so as to be able able to separate the chaff from the wheat. There is a lot of unsubstantiated and just plain wrong claims on the internet.

    Even I had a lot more to learn that I was unaware of but because I had a good foundation I had enough resources to find what I needed, mostly Avalon but there were others before that. Not that Avalon is the only place on the net where information is sorted with my type of discernment that I can trust.

    We need teachers to help us navigate through the mire of lies, half-truths, and purposely misleading data that is rampant on the net.

    Teachers must already have a data set that came before the internet or sourced from outside the net. And it already has to have been vetted by the teacher so that they are ready to teach, with the ability to quickly sort through data and determine its validity or possible merit, or otherwise.

    I knew a lot when I came here. Unfortunately, apart from the basics and some esoteric data, most of the conclusions I had drawn were wrong. I unlearned a lot with Avalon's help. Then placed new learning on top of that pile. It took years to sort through all the connections, and to deal with the ramifications, and delete the false information (that last is a work in progress).

    This is not the information age, as we are told. This is the awakening age, the disinformation age preceded it and is its catalyst. There was never an information age. That would be counter-productive to the establishment who have exerted so much effort in keeping us ignorant.

    So to say that the information war is over is again putting the cart before the horse. There never was an information age, just an age of revelation. Revelation of conspiracy is not itself information, but leads to it in the investigation of the data's relevance.

    Teachers are very important. Competent teachers like Avalon, that is. Like an unhealed healer, a teacher that has not pulled their head out of their ass can only teach the accepted memes of society, and nothing more. They are actually performing a disservice to society by not taking their very important jobs seriously.

    So take heart. The information war is not over - it has barely begun! And be grateful you have found a great teacher that will help you place the data in the proper order with the proper emphasis.

    Happy learning...
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    Quote Posted by christian (here)
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    The younger generation will and have changed there viewing habits,and where they get there information, there is hope
    That's exactly why major sites are censored. If you're looking for any topic on YouTube, Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. — especially if it's a controversial topic — you will find very different results than what you would have found in the past.

    Especially during the beginning of my investigations of independent news, I found a lot of interesting hints and leads on these websites. If I had begun my journey only now, I would have a very different experience.
    Searching for "Spiritless humans" on Google is exactly the same as it was in 2015, and that's pretty darn controversial! That's the exact Google Search which took me 'down the rabbit hole' so to speak.

    I didn't even think to search for that until I met a person who was researching psychopaths. Spiritless humans may or may not exist, but psychopaths certainly do.

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    I agree with the OP, and think the Hawkins videos are hope porn garbage. Bombastic orchestral music is usually a big clue. I am surrounded by 98% totally mind controlled morons who could EASILY be triggered to rise up and defend the power/money tribe's agendas to their own demise. What the moron will make fierce effort for is to keep their minds door closed because they have ZERO courage, they will choose compliance over what feels like way too scary actions for their own benefit. It's too much trouble to even do it for their children.

    These debt ridden, vaccination defending, kneeling to masochistic images, crap eating, porn and violence watching, phone-internet-tv-gaming wasteland addicted couch potato obedient sleeping masses are buying the narrative completely. I've been horrified by the mind control ramping up from all angles, but especially the isolation agenda being rolled out since the total takeover of ALL media by the big power/money tribes. No one anywhere is being told what's going on elsewhere - the money and power tribes are getting away with HUGE mass genocidal agendas on common people. All major and alternative media sources are now poisoned, infiltrated, compromised or IGNORANT/DELUDED in their own way. There is mass genocide right now and 'stage setting' for future genocide also being rolled out in the form of planned crop/food shortages. The true impact and devastation of far reaching weather warfare mass destruction events around the world for a few years now are being blacked out, even within states!!!

    It's TOO LATE for things to get better before they get WAY worse... possibly for a very, very long time:

    1. Worldwide... and especially in so called 'free' America despite it's so called 'constitutional protections and rights' there has ALWAYS foundationally been ZERO real power by the slave class to hold those in power accountable on anything really crucial and major. Changing special interests by those with MONEY have gotten everything they wanted. Just looking at last century they got away with EVERYTHING - the phony reasons for world wars creating huge profiteering and social suppression, the relentless social engineering and the creeping in of 1000s and 1000s of national/local laws benefitting no one but their agendas.

    All their ducks are now in a row and the escalation of dark and suppressive mind, body and spirit controls are racing past everyone's awareness or ability to defend.

    2. The lack of holding anyone in power accountabie has now gone on so long while the explosion of powerful controlling technologies has exploded has now made any 'rising up' or ability to achieve anything effective and broken off IMPOSSIBLE. The money tribe holds ALL the keys, ALL the power, ALL the media - to squash, suppress, kill, mind numb as necessary. I'm not being pessimistic. I'm being realistic. Foundationally, this unnaccountable psychopaths/spineless compliants scenario is nothing new - it's the most repeated human behavior cycle through time. The only differences now are the advanced technological tools available to wield power and suppress dissent.

    In the past some group would finally have had enough and broke off to go elsewhere. For the real first time due to the technology, there's now no place left to go.

    HOWEVER, there's a reason the available shortcuts to just wipe out who they want and get it over with are not being taken. It's being done in a dragged out way because of something THEY fear. It's not great numbers organizing - they can kill that.

    I agree with Elana Freeland - one of the most tuned in, educated and fearless people I know of on the frontlines right now. You are on your own, YOU are your only hope. Your ONLY defense is within the realm of your own consciousness. It's the ONLY thing greater than all their weaponry.

    That's not a selfish thing to do. It's rendering into existence for others the access to a teaching/example of how you achieved your fearlessness, resistance and sovereignty against the heartless bullies surrounding you this lifetime.
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)

    That is the problem with the internet. There is no teacher. Instead it goes by word-of-mouth. The most shared content is the most likely to be seen, censorship aside of course. So what often happens is the most shared videos pass on the most common errors in understanding. There is no learning on the net unless the person is already well informed from other sources so as to be able able to separate the chaff from the wheat. There is a lot of unsubstantiated and just plain wrong claims on the internet.
    Outstanding post, Ernie. You are spot on.

    My speculation is, based on my own experience using the platform -- is that the "no teacher" idea isn't random nor based on the most commonly shared information. That's how Google used to do it. With their new algorithms, there is an AI Big Brother baked into the equation, so to speak, that "assumes" the role of teacher and directs the information. You can still get to the truth and accurate information, but it's a very cumbersome process. The platform's algorithms have more or less thrown a magnet into the information flow directing one's internal compass, so to speak, to employ your very excellent analogy.

    So in other words, the algorithm now takes the most widely shared disinformation, i.e., that which aligns with the overarching agenda of Google, and employs their algorithms to it accordingly. Information not favorable to the agenda is somehow "weighted" differently. In this sense the information isn't "censored", per se, just factored accordingly. And then everything plays out precisely how you've described.
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    In the meantime - I have recently found this search engine (Peekier) to be more useful to find info I am seeking, since Google has become so frustrating to me lately!https://peekier.com
    I just tried peekier and got pretty much the same result as Google. I've tried quite a few alternative search engines now and they all seem to get similar results and none seems to reflect anything like the search results we used to get years ago. I'm still waiting for a truly alternative search engine.
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    It is interesting to observe that information is not fact. Information is just what the word implies. Information is data in a certain order. That's it. Information is not even necessarily true or correct. It is merely presented in a particular order, both including and omitting data according to the premise the information was gathered to highlight in the first place.

    So when we say this is the information age, what we are actually saying is that data is coming at us far faster than we can organize and assimilate it. There is so much information out there that much of it directly refutes our standard model.

    But what is a standard model? Who compiles the tidal wave of incoming information? Who assures that information is vetted and placed in the proper context? Who modifies the standard model to reflect the new data?

    Nobody, that's who!

    The standard model is actually a frozen statue of out-dated information that will not allow a single change to its constituent parts. Instead, modifications are added to the unchanged standard model. These modifications ride atop the old model and are only applied in specific instances, but are not a source for further understanding or for extrapolation into other areas or disciplines. The modifications are isolated to certain specific problems that the standard model cannot explain. Modifications are exceptions.

    It's like saying 1 + 1 = 2, except in calculations of quantum tunneling where 1 + 1 is undefined. Or on the second Tuesday of the month following a blue moon, when 1 + 1 = 3...

    The standard model stands stubbornly unwilling to bend or amend even an iota of data. Because if it did the entire story would unravel. The standard model barely holds together under the unending onslaught of new information as it is. If it were to accept even one new idea, it would no longer offer any sort of coherent explanation for even the most simple phenomena.

    There is a connection between reality and consciousness that has not yet been understood in any meaningful way. In this context, reality is the motive while consciousness is the motivator.

    Until we can grasp the meaning of that last sentence there cannot be a standard model of any significance.
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