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    I would like to honour and dedicate this thread to all the extraordinary people who have ever graced this world with their presence.

    These may be:
    • People who live ordinary lives but who have exuded courage, bravery and inner strength throughout their lives.
    • Quiet unsung heroes who go about their daily work helping others.
    • The great innovators and inventors of our past and current times.
    • Beings who are the embodiment of unconditional love and compassion.
    • Extraordinarily gifted or talented or skilled individuals.
    • Someone you know who has touched your life deeply through an extraordinary act of kindness, bravery or unconditional love.
    • Beings who live their lives with extraordinary grace despite severe handicaps.
    • Those who inspire leadership and make great role models for the world.
    • Individuals who have overcome adversity, transcending it all to go on to living exemplary lives.
    • Warriors for social justice, equality, human rights; peace, animal rights, environmental rights etc.

    All extraordinary beings are welcome here.



    A Garden of Eden in Hell

    I wanted to open this thread with Alice Herz-Sommer. Some of you may already be aware of who Alice was but for those of you who don't know, Alice was a survivor of the holocaust.

    Alice was born in Prague in 1903. By the time she was 39, she had become an accomplished pianist.

    In 1942, her entire world was shattered when she and her family were rounded up by the Nazis and sent to concentration camps.

    She survived with her son because the Nazis wanted to create a propaganda film and her talents were useful to them.

    Alice spent every night living on a frozen dirt floor, soothing her young son and trying to figure out how to survive.

    If she didn't please her captors, she and her son would be exterminated that day. But somehow, she managed to find a way to not only survive throughout that entire experience but to thrive.

    You are going to need hankies for this one.


    An Interview with Alice-Herz Sommer - Holocaust Survivor| Tony Robbins
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    I already started crying. What a beautiful thing to honor. It gives us all courage.
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    I would like to honour and dedicate this thread to all the extraordinary people who have ever graced this world with their presence.

    These may be:
    • People who live ordinary lives but who have exuded courage, bravery and inner strength throughout their lives.
    • Quiet unsung heroes who go about their daily work helping others.
    • The great innovators and inventors of our past and current times.
    • Beings who are the embodiment of unconditional love and compassion.
    • Extraordinarily gifted or talented or skilled individuals.
    • Someone you know who has touched your life deeply through an extraordinary act of kindness, bravery or unconditional love.
    • Beings who live their lives with extraordinary grace despite severe handicaps.
    • Those who inspire leadership and make great role models for the world.
    • Individuals who have overcome adversity, transcending it all to go on to living exemplary lives.
    • Warriors for social justice, equality, human rights; peace, animal rights, environmental rights etc.

    All extraordinary beings are welcome here.



    A Garden of Eden in Hell

    I wanted to open this thread with Alice Herz-Sommer. Some of you may already be aware of who Alice was but for those of you who don't know, Alice was a survivor of the holocaust.

    Alice was born in Prague in 1903. By the time she was 39, she had become an accomplished pianist.

    In 1942, her entire world was shattered when she and her family were rounded up by the Nazi and sent to concentration camps.

    She survived with her son because the Nazis wanted to create a propaganda film and her talents were useful to them.

    Alice spent every night living on a frozen dirt floor, soothing her young son and trying to figure out how to survive.

    If she didn't please her captors, she and her son would be exterminated that day. But somehow, she managed to find a way to not only survive throughout that entire experience but to thrive.

    You are going to need hankies for this one.


    An Interview with Alice-Herz Sommer - Holocaust Survivor| Tony Robbins
    She has been one my main "people to look up to for inspiration". I remember that she said in one of her interviews that she LITERALLY was fed by the music she played with other musicians in the camp. They were starved and she gave what food she had to her son. They both survived. Not only did that inspire me about her deep connection to love but is PROOF to me that we are frequency and vibration energy beings who step down frequency and vibration into matter. Music IS food for those who are able to immediately assimilate it for the body.

    My most most favorite teacher is Neville Goddard. He was a cosmic philosopher, far ahead and way beyond our "time" (though I am certain we will all one day grok what he said). When he was a young man, a fortune teller said that one day he would be known as one of humanity's greatest teachers. To me he lived everything he taught and not only had a life we can see was very healthy but he thoroughly enjoyed life.

    He interpreted what we call the bible from a metapsychological manner showing that it is all about human character and a description of states of being that humans inhabit.

    For me, listening again and again to the many many lectures he allowed to be recorded and reading his books is a "return to the basics". He (by the way) never cared about copy rights or fame or preserving his legacy. He wanted every one to know that our own wonderful human Imagination is God.


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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    I would like to honour and dedicate this thread to all the extraordinary people who have ever graced this world with their presence.

    These may be:
    • People who live ordinary lives but who have exuded courage, bravery and inner strength throughout their lives.
    • Quiet unsung heroes who go about their daily work helping others.
    • The great innovators and inventors of our past and current times.
    • Beings who are the embodiment of unconditional love and compassion.
    • Extraordinarily gifted or talented or skilled individuals.
    • Someone you know who has touched your life deeply through an extraordinary act of kindness, bravery or unconditional love.
    • Beings who live their lives with extraordinary grace despite severe handicaps.
    • Those who inspire leadership and make great role models for the world.
    • Individuals who have overcome adversity, transcending it all to go on to living exemplary lives.
    • Warriors for social justice, equality, human rights; peace, animal rights, environmental rights etc.

    All extraordinary beings are welcome here.



    A Garden of Eden in Hell

    I wanted to open this thread with Alice Herz-Sommer. Some of you may already be aware of who Alice was but for those of you who don't know, Alice was a survivor of the holocaust.

    Alice was born in Prague in 1903. By the time she was 39, she had become an accomplished pianist.

    In 1942, her entire world was shattered when she and her family were rounded up by the Nazi and sent to concentration camps.

    She survived with her son because the Nazis wanted to create a propaganda film and her talents were useful to them.

    Alice spent every night living on a frozen dirt floor, soothing her young son and trying to figure out how to survive.

    If she didn't please her captors, she and her son would be exterminated that day. But somehow, she managed to find a way to not only survive throughout that entire experience but to thrive.

    You are going to need hankies for this one.


    An Interview with Alice-Herz Sommer - Holocaust Survivor| Tony Robbins
    Please do yourself a favor and watch this beautiful woman (who was at this time nearly a 108) and seek to listen to and understand her message. It is one of, if not the, secret to a happy life on this plane.

    Thanks for posting Constance

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    Delight's post about Neville Goddard is no less important and meaningful. Whether you believe in a personal God, infinite intelligence, or whatever you use to describe source, from what I've listened to so far, he's very much on to something that is phenomenological.

    Thank you for your post Delight.

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    I am sorry, and I don’t think my post here will be popular, but these examples are all paying homage to “blue pill thinking”. To pat someone on the head for their “positivity” in light of being shat upon, imho, reinforces ancient paradigms that have enslaved us all throughout aeons. Miss Alice, as an example, laughed her way through concentration camp internment, whilst laughing and claiming that everything is beautiful? Give me a break. What that tells me is that she was a participant who turned a blind eye to ensure her own survival.
    “The World is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”
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    The Man Who Lost his Body



    I live at the edge all day every day

    Ian Waterman was just 19 years old when he was struck down by a virus in 1971. The virus affected his entire body. The nerves which once told his body what it was doing were so damaged from the neck down that he could move his limbs but he just couldn't tell them what to do.

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    He was pronounced as 'incurable' and was sent home in a wheelchair.

    But Ian had an indomitable spirit. He was determined to walk again and he set himself a gruelling schedule.
    "Ian began to sense that the solution might lie in some hidden part of his mind. He had a hunch that if he could visualise a movement, he might by sheer force of concentration make his body perform it...

    Using powers of visualisation, his eyes would have to tell his limbs what they were doing."
    He had to forge a new link between mind and muscle. For many weeks, he couldn't sit up in bed. He had to teach himself how to recruit the stomach muscles to enable him to sit up.

    The only way that Ian can walk is if he looks down at his feet. If the lights go out, he goes down. Every movement he makes has to be anticipated, all day, every day.


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    He said, "Every day is like running a marathon".

    Ian has made an unprecedented recovery - at the time of the video there were only 10 people in the world who had this disorder.

    For the video, please click on this link here - Thedailymotion - The Man Who Lost his body - BBC documentary
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    A short little video about a Zimbabwean who was born blind, with tumors on his eyes and given only two months to live. 35 years later, still blind, he uses his sense of hearing as a cricket commentator!

    *I have loved the stars too dearly to be fearful of the night*

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    A short little video about a Zimbabwean who was born blind, with tumors on his eyes and given only two months to live. 35 years later, still blind, he uses his sense of hearing as a cricket commentator!
    Another blind man with extraordinary skills.
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    There is a wonderful film named Life Is Beautiful about prison camp life. The lead actor plays a game for his young son's benefit. This scene is the beginning of the game. All for his son. Ms. Herz-Sommer's attitude of mirth and joy under horrid conditions kept her little boy from being too stressed. Life Is Beautiful captures a tiny part of that spirit. The movie and her experience are leagues apart, the movie being more light-hearted. Apologies for the rude comparison. This grand woman is a marvel of human expression, radiating such love.


    A very good movie!
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    An Interview with Alice-Herz Sommer - Holocaust Survivor| Tony Robbins
    "I never hate...." Alice-Herz Sommer.

    Probably the very reason she's still alive at 108 years old....

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    I am sorry, and I don’t think my post here will be popular, but these examples are all paying homage to “blue pill thinking”. To pat someone on the head for their “positivity” in light of being shat upon, imho, reinforces ancient paradigms that have enslaved us all throughout aeons. Miss Alice, as an example, laughed her way through concentration camp internment, whilst laughing and claiming that everything is beautiful? Give me a break. What that tells me is that she was a participant who turned a blind eye to ensure her own survival.
    I think you are missing a very important point. The way she treats life made her reach the age of 108. That means life has been blessing her. And life doesn't bless if a person is doing things in a bad way. Her positivism and talent have inspired many around her, undoubtedly. Have you been in a similar situation? With parents killed, and a child you instinctively want to live? There's a difference in turning a blind eye and trying to stay alive by making the best of it, knowing at any time you could be executed. Do you think it's possible to turn a blind eye, when people around you are executed? Trying to make the suffering bearable, by playing tunes to the enjoyment, in a place where enjoyment is structurally affected in a negative way is not the easiest. What is your alternative? How could she have taken "the red pill" according to you? Rebel? Not play the piano? To what consequence? Would she have been able to give other generations valuable lessons like she's doing now? She is giving a very important lesson: Be grateful always, no matter the circumstances.

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    I am sorry, and I don’t think my post here will be popular, but these examples are all paying homage to “blue pill thinking”. To pat someone on the head for their “positivity” in light of being shat upon, imho, reinforces ancient paradigms that have enslaved us all throughout aeons. Miss Alice, as an example, laughed her way through concentration camp internment, whilst laughing and claiming that everything is beautiful? Give me a break. What that tells me is that she was a participant who turned a blind eye to ensure her own survival.
    Not popular at all. Your post is reprehensible, repugnant, and an affront to higher levels of consciousness. The poor woman was not displaying a positive attitude. She was exhibiting her supreme awareness of God and her ability to focus her thinking. Would you have her wallow in misery, lamenting every lack, every pain, every injustice? What would that have gained her? She was the epitome of selflessness and forgiveness.

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    I am sorry, and I don’t think my post here will be popular, but these examples are all paying homage to “blue pill thinking”. To pat someone on the head for their “positivity” in light of being shat upon, imho, reinforces ancient paradigms that have enslaved us all throughout aeons. Miss Alice, as an example, laughed her way through concentration camp internment, whilst laughing and claiming that everything is beautiful? Give me a break. What that tells me is that she was a participant who turned a blind eye to ensure her own survival.
    Not popular at all. Your post is reprehensible, repugnant, and an affront to higher levels of consciousness. The poor woman was not displaying a positive attitude. She was exhibiting her supreme awareness of God and her ability to focus her thinking. Would you have her wallow in misery, lamenting every lack, every pain, every injustice? What would that have gained her? She was the epitome of selflessness and forgiveness.

    Trotzdem Ja Zum Leben Sagen: Ein Psychologe Erlebt das Konzentrationslager
    Google translate called the german above "Still Yes To Life Say: A Psychologist Experienced the concentration camp"

    I feel as if I am supremely blessed to know of people like Alice because they share their enthusiasm (that is being filled with "the spirit of god within"). Another statement I remember from her is paraphrased "I know about the bad but I live in the good"). The earth is such a strange place as it has EVERYTHING from the extremes of imaginable to the "un-imaginable until it is imagined".

    I feel so fortunate to encounter teachings that remind me of what is essential. When I was 18 and 19 I was studying University psychology. We were given the assignment to take an author and deeply explore his or her writings. I chose Victor Frankl. This was such an awesome and valuable investigation and helped me all the rest of my life.

    The real human condition is so counter to what we believe when we think life is just an accident with no meaning. For people like the ones I admire most, life is FULL of meaning. Neville says the only sin is "doubt". Doubt misses the mark of truth that our focus will reveal what life means to us.

    Frankl's experiences in the worst imaginable circumstance led him to profound realization about how our deliberate focus of meaning can lift us to transcend horrific experiences. Our will for meaning is a life saver and takes place in the heart and mind BEFORE we find the means. IMO our ability to imagine and have faith in the unseen which for us is MEANINGFUL (as exemplified in Neville's teachings) is our connection to god by whatever name we call god and in some way MUST become solidified in fact. I SEE and HEAR Alice's proof that god is acting in the world.

    In the best of circumstances, life is tough. Even when in loving family and friendship we get pushed by the pains that seem inescapable in death, illness, the fortunes which change....(I call "the worst imaginable circumstance", like the example of the German concentration camps the UBIQUITOUS cruelty in human capacity and social structure.... multiplying cases where human beings systematically and gravely and DELIBERATELY mistreat another group... where one group of human beings with CALCULATION starve, humiliate, physically brutalize and murder another group EXPECTING genocide).

    Life is hell when we are cut off from the roots of our being BUT we can choose at any moment to re establish the amazing, beautiful, loving, HUMAN quality of spirit in flesh. This is the gift we may find when we meet the horrors of circumstance which seem compeletly unimaginably cruel.
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    Not popular at all. Your post is reprehensible, repugnant, and an affront to higher levels of consciousness. The poor woman was not displaying a positive attitude. She was exhibiting her supreme awareness of God and her ability to focus her thinking. Would you have her wallow in misery, lamenting every lack, every pain, every injustice? What would that have gained her? She was the epitome of selflessness and forgiveness.

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    I would suggest though, that your response is aggressive enough to alienate AriG from this conversation rather than uplift them and help them to see why you celebrate this lady's life and attitude as a reflection of truly divine love. A simple "I disagree and here's why" wouldn't have driven me away, but if someone called me "reprehensible, repugnant, and an affront" I would never go back to that thread, guaranteed, and thus never learn anything from the following discussion. Speaking for myself, I have almost 0 tolerance for being treated in that fashion. I would never complain or defend myself, simply leave. I don't really think AriG's feelings on the matter were worth your biggest, meanest vocabulary words. I also don't think that's what Alice would have wanted. She's a lady who I feel quite confident would have said something like, "I see how you could perceive it that way! This is how I view it."

    As for AriG, maybe they saw someone who was oblivious to the suffering of others and just putting on a happy-go-lucky attitude to survive in their life experience. So that's what comes to mind when they see someone with such an attitude. This has resulted in you both having a different perspective on the matter. Both are valid notions to explore. There are real people out there who are acting like everything's all good and roses to overcome hardships. There are real people out there who've reached divine heights of love, compassion, and forgiveness which is the only thing which brings them through hardships.

    Perhaps the best thing to consider is what Miss Alice's story can tell us about ourselves and how we engage with extreme challenges. For example, I have almost 0% spine. This post is aggressive enough that I would consider the likelihood of me returning here, to this specific thread, to be near nill. It's already like a 50/50 chance I won't risk returning to a thread lest it have turned into a big mean insultfest (forums have not always served me well in love; being a gentle person on the internet is hard) but having dared to challenge someone on their tone is an almost guarantee whatever brittle balsa wood supports my back will shriek, "NOPE" if I see responses. My great grandmothers all had the gift of Divine Spine, but I do not, I am a flinching lil flower with next to no endurance. Love is not my problem. I have an over abundance of it which makes me easily break when the world turns out to be a different way. What Alice's story would serve to best teach someone like me is how to practically apply our charged and ready hearts to a situation of extreme intensity where survival is the only road forward. I could do with a smear of her endurance level.

    I feel like you have a ton of respect for Alice, conk, and your response is in defense of her honor. I respect that. She's an incredible ol' biddy with a lesson of love to teach. She survived one of the hardest times where people could live through. It's not fair to her to project the contemporary "love from a safe place thoughts and prayers <333" onto her memory, but I also don't believe she would think such a perspective worthy of your revulsion, only your love.

    I hope AriG meets someone who's a force of divine love in real life because until you do it's hard to believe it's real. It's still hard for me to believe it's real sometimes, and I've met multiple people who are charged up with nothing less than the love of God as their primary driving force, and I'm sure I've BEEN that example for some people. But I can't PROVE it so that's not necessarily good enough and well, I mentioned that spine. Contemporary media does a very good job of blotting over the most uplifting aspects of life and bringing out divisive and distrustful motivations. It's easy to become jaded today. Don't be angry about that, just be a great example of love yourself, eh? So that when you are old and people are remembering the most intense parts of your life, they too learn more about themselves by considering themselves next to the concept of you.

    Don't just admire extraordinary people. Be an extraordinary person. If you're here, reading this, yeah, that's right, I'm talkin' to YOU. Not everyone on the internet's made their way to Project Avalon, and even if they did, not everyone on this forum is reading about a 108 year old woman motivated by love. Synchronicity has brought you here. Go, be amazing, love people, challenge their assumptions in the kindest ways possible. Let's turn those mirror neurons to the task of mirroring the level of love Alice developed to the people we encounter, whoever they are, and see what happens by the time we're 108!
    May the Force be with you.

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