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    Default Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    This looks huge...man-made??

    Strongest storm on the planet this year...

    Hurricane Dorian has made landfall in the north-west Bahamas as a powerful category five storm with sustained winds of up to 180mph (285km/h).

    The "extremely dangerous" storm is the strongest hurricane on modern record in the area, the US National Hurricane Center (NHC) says.

    Grand Bahama residents have been evacuating from its predicted path.

    A storm surge could be life-threatening and as high as 23ft (7m) in places, officials warn.

    At 11:00 local time (15:00 GMT) the NHC reported "catastrophic conditions" in the Abaco islands in the northern Bahamas.

    The storm made landfall at 12:40 at Elbow Cay, the NHC said.

    Dorian, moving westward at 7mph (11km/h), is expected to continue to move over Great Abaco Island and near, or over, Grand Bahama Island later on Sunday into Monday.

    Authorities closed some airports in the outlying islands, but the main international airport remains open on Sunday.

    After hitting the Bahamas, it should move closer to the Florida east coast late on Monday through Tuesday night local time.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    ...

    MSM: The Chaos Amplifiers:

    From Jim Stone:
    They got Dorian up to a category 2

    It looks like they might get it up to a category 3. My guess is that it is going to hit whatever is the biggest target that will provide the best photo ops because they got it "strong enough".

    Let's put Dorian in perspective:

    This is the best call on this bluff I can think of: Compare Dorian to the Joplin tornado.

    Let's put this in even more clear terms:

    They are claiming Dorian is equal to the tornado that hit Joplin (an epic devastator tornado) except with a damage path 100+ miles wide. Check out this in depth analysis of the Joplin tornado, done by meteorological experts. By their numbers Dorian is outperforming the Joplin tornado significantly, plus doing it with a damage path 200 times as wide. If we don't see THAT kind of damage where Dorian makes landfall, across the entire length of a 2 hour drive, they lied about Dorian.

    I have obviously captured that article because they'll back wipe it once they figure out it blows the lid off Dorian.

    The damage Dorian did in the Bahamas was nowhere near as bad as the Joplin tornado, with 185 mph sustained winds and gusts to 220 as claimed, Dorian should have totally out performed the Joplin tornado, which according to the NWS had max wind gusts of 208 mph, but experts have concluded the Joplin winds never broke 200 even in the worst gusts.

    Compare the Joplin damage to the Dorian damage. Dorian is NOT EVEN CLOSE, which proves the cat 5 rating is a BIG FAT LIE. What they are saying about Dorian makes it an F5 tornado more than 100 miles across. The devastation should be absolute, with the ground scoured to oblivion and not a trace of human habitation left AT ALL.


    THE VERDICT IS IN - THEY LIED ABOUT DORIAN
    Dorian hit the Bahamas and did cat 1 damage, just as I said, with the worst video being of the ocean shore. Away from the ocean virtually every house is intact and some are not damaged at all, not even the shingles after a direct hit. That's not possible with a cat 5.

    Look at this video from the Bahamas

    Dorian scored a direct hit here. And the damage is typical of a strong cat 1. No hurricane is play time, cat 1's do significant damage. Note in the video: There are many houses TOTALLY UNHURT, not even missing shingles. There are lots of houses missing shingles. There are a couple that got wrecked. Those probably had termite damage. It is obvious 90+ mph winds hit, but it is also obvious those winds were NOT 185 mph as stated.

    The Bahamas have CAT 1 DAMAGE after taking a direct hit from "cat 5" Dorian

    Except for where the ocean did the damage, houses in perfect line of wind are still standing, missing only their shingles. That's cat 1 damage.


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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    ...

    MSM: The Chaos Amplifiers:

    From Jim Stone:
    They got Dorian up to a category 2

    It looks like they might get it up to a category 3. My guess is that it is going to hit whatever is the biggest target that will provide the best photo ops because they got it "strong enough".

    Let's put Dorian in perspective:

    This is the best call on this bluff I can think of: Compare Dorian to the Joplin tornado.

    Let's put this in even more clear terms:

    They are claiming Dorian is equal to the tornado that hit Joplin (an epic devastator tornado) except with a damage path 100+ miles wide. Check out this in depth analysis of the Joplin tornado, done by meteorological experts. By their numbers Dorian is outperforming the Joplin tornado significantly, plus doing it with a damage path 200 times as wide. If we don't see THAT kind of damage where Dorian makes landfall, across the entire length of a 2 hour drive, they lied about Dorian.

    I have obviously captured that article because they'll back wipe it once they figure out it blows the lid off Dorian.

    The damage Dorian did in the Bahamas was nowhere near as bad as the Joplin tornado, with 185 mph sustained winds and gusts to 220 as claimed, Dorian should have totally out performed the Joplin tornado, which according to the NWS had max wind gusts of 208 mph, but experts have concluded the Joplin winds never broke 200 even in the worst gusts.

    Compare the Joplin damage to the Dorian damage. Dorian is NOT EVEN CLOSE, which proves the cat 5 rating is a BIG FAT LIE. What they are saying about Dorian makes it an F5 tornado more than 100 miles across. The devastation should be absolute, with the ground scoured to oblivion and not a trace of human habitation left AT ALL.


    THE VERDICT IS IN - THEY LIED ABOUT DORIAN
    Dorian hit the Bahamas and did cat 1 damage, just as I said, with the worst video being of the ocean shore. Away from the ocean virtually every house is intact and some are not damaged at all, not even the shingles after a direct hit. That's not possible with a cat 5.

    Look at this video from the Bahamas

    Dorian scored a direct hit here. And the damage is typical of a strong cat 1. No hurricane is play time, cat 1's do significant damage. Note in the video: There are many houses TOTALLY UNHURT, not even missing shingles. There are lots of houses missing shingles. There are a couple that got wrecked. Those probably had termite damage. It is obvious 90+ mph winds hit, but it is also obvious those winds were NOT 185 mph as stated.

    The Bahamas have CAT 1 DAMAGE after taking a direct hit from "cat 5" Dorian

    Except for where the ocean did the damage, houses in perfect line of wind are still standing, missing only their shingles. That's cat 1 damage.


    Very interesting perspective. What would be the reason to create this type of fear porn? What do the controllers of this information get out of it?

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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Has it reached the Atlantic Coast of Alabama like Trump said? Maybe we should Nuke it like Trump suggested doing with hurricanes?
    I've never heard of force 5 hurricane said Trump even though 4 have hit so far in his term .......... I know cheap shot but he has said these things.

    I've been in three hurricanes , from a F1 to a F4 so far in my life and one was at sea on a freighter. I sure could have used more paper towels. They are scary, the sound of the wind is like nothing you have heard before.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Here on the Broward County/Palm Beach County Line. We are waiting for it to make a turn north but it’s so slow moving haven’t seen much of a change. We are now out of the cone (supposedly), but will probably get 45-50 mph tropical storm winds. I’ll try to get film if possible.
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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Quote Posted by ichingcarpenter (here)
    Has it reached the Atlantic Coast of Alabama like Trump said? Maybe we should Nuke it like Trump suggested doing with hurricanes?
    I've never heard of force 5 hurricane said Trump even though 4 have hit so far in his term .......... I know cheap shot but he has said these things.

    I've been in three hurricanes , from a F1 to a F4 so far in my life and one was at sea on a freighter. I sure could have used more paper towels. They are scary, the sound of the wind is like nothing you have heard before.
    Hilarious! Yes those are some epic fails you listed. The National Weather Service came out almost immediately yesterday in a tweet saying Alabama was in no danger.

    By the way, was the comment about you being in hurricanes ranging from F1 to F4 another shot at Trump? Because F is the old scale for tornados, its now EF.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    No one blaming HAARP yet?

    Good.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Quote Posted by Mandala (here)
    Here on the Broward County/Palm Beach County Line. We are waiting for it to make a turn north but it’s so slow moving haven’t seen much of a change. We are now out of the cone (supposedly), but will probably get 45-50 mph tropical storm winds. I’ll try to get film if possible.
    How bad was/is the storm surge?
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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Kano wrote:

    Quote What would be the reason to create this type of fear porn? What do the controllers of this information get out of it?


    More 'evidence' to prop-up the man-made climate change hoax.

    See it all the time, each extreme weather event being hyped as "the worst in the last ____ years", or "the biggest/wettest/coldest/hottest since records began".

    It's weather. Short & long range cycles that have always, and will always be, in a state of flux. We have just happened to have lived in a fairly quiet (climate-wise) period.

    As the saying goes, "there is no-such-thing as bad weather, just the wrong clothes".

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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    The media definitely hypes all this up, but for what it's worth folks need to be cautious. Just 2 years ago Jax flooded terribly. Then last year (I think) power outages cost lives from a local hospice. We want to avoid lives lost as much as possible.

    That being said, yes I agree, blown out of proportion.
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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Quote Posted by ichingcarpenter (here)

    I've never heard of force 5 hurricane said Trump even though 4 have hit so far in his term .......... I know cheap shot but he has said these things.
    This might be a matter of semantics, and I'm not sure what was said by Trump or the quote you are citing (yes, there have been four hurricane 5 storms since Trump took office (whilst in the ocean) that impacted the US coast), but none of them were category 5 when they hit land. I'm assuming this may be what Trump is referring to.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    Quote Posted by ichingcarpenter (here)

    I've never heard of force 5 hurricane said Trump even though 4 have hit so far in his term .......... I know cheap shot but he has said these things.
    This might be a matter of semantics, and I'm not sure what was said by Trump or the quote you are citing (yes, there have been four hurricane 5 storms since Trump took office (whilst in the ocean) that impacted the US coast), but none of them were category 5 when they hit land. I'm assuming this may be what Trump is referring to.
    As the saying goes, we report you decide.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)

    As the saying goes, we report you decide.

    Indeed. But to be fair I never claimed one wouldn't first have to put Trump's words through a filter to translate them

    Donald Trump: "I've never even heard of a Category 5 Hurricane." Translation: "I only describe the world through the lens of reality TV, and on reality TV we don't have Category 5 Hurricanes..."
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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Quote Posted by Strat (here)
    Quote Posted by Mandala (here)
    Here on the Broward County/Palm Beach County Line. We are waiting for it to make a turn north but it’s so slow moving haven’t seen much of a change. We are now out of the cone (supposedly), but will probably get 45-50 mph tropical storm winds. I’ll try to get film if possible

    How bad was/is the storm surge?
    .
    We have seen nothing but a little rain at this point. No movement stalled over The Bahamas. No storm surge or wind. This is the oddest Hurricane.
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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Quote Posted by Mandala (here)
    This is the oddest Hurricane.
    Agreed. I can't recall a hurricane just basically hovering over a single location like this one. It must be horrible in the Bahamas.
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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
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    MSM: The Chaos Amplifiers: ...


    AND NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE B.S. BUSTING AMBUSH ON DORIAN I SAID I HAD THREE DAYS AGO. READ IT AND WEEP CARBON TAX TROLLS!

    Top posted Dorian update:


    This analysis of the Joplin tornado DESTROYS the Dorian hoax.

    As of the 10AM CST update, Dorian is weakening significantly, so significantly I think they are losing it. That's what they get for trying to coax an ocean that did not want to cooperate because it was simply too cold.

    My final answer on Dorian - compare Dorian to Joplin

    They went so overboard (brainlessly) with Dorian that they put the wind speeds far beyond the worst tornado disaster in recent American history.

    So now it is time to shred this hoax. In the main window below there is an analysis of Joplin done by weather experts that the Weather Channel posted. I have it captured if they change it (now posted above) Dorian, as advertised, had higher winds than the Joplin tornado, and Dorian stayed in one place for 500X as long as the Joplin tornado did, and covered an area hundreds of times larger than the Joplin tornado. If the Bahamas don't look like chocolate pudding, without a trace of civilization anywhere except for random metallic shapes that are what is left of the cars, they hoaxed Dorian and that's all there is to it.

    The devastation should be complete if winds really did hit 220 MPH like Zero Hedge claimed. As bad as Joplin was, 83 percent of the devastation was caused by winds of 135 mph, with only a small portion of the damage being done by 180 MPH winds right on the tornado's eye wall.

    If Dorian was as stated, the aftermath should be Joplin times about 50,000 (300 times the area X 500 times as long X far more intense winds.)

    Dorian is a classic example of having the method of telling a lie so big everyone will believe it FAIL, only ignorance will get them through this one, hard times in leftist land, they'd have been better off ditching it in the Atlantic than lying like they did.

    UP AND COMING STORY:
    "FANTASTIC CONSTRUCTION IN THE BAHAMAS SPARED THEM THE WORST." You read it here first!

    AFTERMATH VIDEOS AND LIVE FEED LAY WASTE THE DORIAN HOAX


    HERE IS 22 MINUTES OF VIDEO OF DORIAN DESTROYING FREEPORT IN THE BAHAMAS, WHERE THE DAMAGE WAS AMONG THE WORST.

    Anything built worth a crap was not damaged AT ALL. There is no video evidence whatsoever, even after they stalled this storm for max damage, there's no evidence of anything over a cat 1.

    I suspect the NWS, which has an influence over the wind map, hoaxed it up to a cat 2 but could not get away with more. The hoax is not holding, and public opinion is coming out flatly against the MSM lie. This video shows one of the "hardest hit" areas. Very little happened other than damage to low lying areas from storm surge. Obviously storm surge is going to wreck the shoreline, possibly even from just a mere tropical storm.

    I CANNOT BELIEVE THE GIFT THE HOAXERS HANDED THIS SITE, WHICH CALLED IT AS IT WAS THE ENTIRE TIME, AND NEVER WAVERED. NOT A SINGLE VIDEO SHOWS ANY MORE THAN CAT 1 DAMAGE. THIS IS NOT A JOPLIN.

    The mayhem the scamming MSM and Noaa caused is worth a MASSIVE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT.
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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Quote Posted by Kano (here)
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    ... What would be the reason to create this type of fear porn? What do the controllers of this information get out of it?
    See this post and this one...
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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Quote Posted by Strat (here)
    I can't recall a hurricane just basically hovering over a single location like this one. It must be horrible in the Bahamas.
    Hurricane Mitch (cat 5) did about the exact same thing to the Honduran Guanaja Island back in '98. I still vividly remember watching it sit over that island, same as Dorian is doing, and like you thinking oh those poor people.

    Quote Guanaja took a serious beating during Hurricane Mitch, back in 1998. The hurricane meandered around the island for over 72 hours, destroying the main resorts and creating havoc on the island.
    https://hondurastravel.com/the-bay-i...uanaja-island/

    PS At least things are looking better and better for our Florida friends here, maybe even the whole US east coast the way its trending. Just when we start to think they've finally got this forecast modeling thing down pat now...

    The National Hurricane Center should be getting a black eye over this forecasting snafu (remember it was supposed to cross Florida and into the Gulf of Mexico?), scaring the bejesus out of millions of people but, not a peep i've seen out of msm. Nothing to see here folks, heres where its going today, move along.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Expectation, especially when fuelled by one of the most powerful emotive forces of all, fear, can actually shape our shared reality. That's what fear porn is for. It's why they do it. From pandemic alerts, to terrorist threats, to extreme weather like this, to adverts and articles warning constantly about cancer etc. Misery and destruction is amplified when fed by our collective creative power. But that's another thread.
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    Default Re: Hurricane Dorian Reaches "Catastrophic" Category 5

    Well this is intriguing... possible evidence of a directed storm. Could this be some kind of blackmail storm?


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