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    Default JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    The title reflects what I've understood for several years now.

    See this interview with Gianni Russo — which is truly extraordinary by just about any standards, believe me — starting at 1:10:17.

    Russo had a life that comes straight out of wild fiction, but it's all true. He knew everyone, including the Kennedys, Frank Sinatra, Marilyn Monroe (who seduced him when he was 16, a hilarious story), and landed his part in The Godfather despite never having acted in his life.

    Enjoy. As best I know, his account of the JFK assassination is quite correct.


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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    Just to throw in my 2 cents: This video is part of a series of videos where legitimate former mob bosses are interviewed. The interviews are fascinating and shed a different light on American (and to a lesser extent world) history.
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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    Funny, I watched most of this a few weeks ago.

    My opinion? Half of this is total bull**** and the rest is half bull****

    Entertaining, though

    I also happen to be reading Mark Lane's last book, The Last Word, where he summarized his many years of research on the JFK hit. He barely mentions the mob. For Lane, it was CIA 95% and maybe a sprinkling of the other guys. Courageous guy, Mark Lane.
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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    I was curious to see the mob reference to the JFK on a vídeo last week, and it seems to continue...

    The 3rd shot in my opinion came from Greer, the driver. Seems so in the video and explains why Jackie started to run away (in fear) to the back of the vehicle, afraid for her own life...

    Don't recall previous researchers who started their work in the 70's mention the mafia connection, and find it curious why so many mob related folk are being interviewed these days...

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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    I haven't seen the interview you posted Bill, but I wonder if you have seen the confession of James Files. I think he also mentioned Johnny Roselli and Sam Giancana as well as the cia being involved. I have seen the entire interview which I think was over an hour long. All I could find was just this snippet


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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    From https://jfkplayersandwitnesses.wordp...he-storm-drain

    Johnny Roselli: the JFK Shooter in the Storm Drain?
    November 12, 2013



    Above left, Johnny Roselli montage, above right is a copy (click to enlarge) of the Towner Photo with the locations of several of the JFK shooters demarcated. The middle item is a screen capture from the Malcolm Couch Film showing the storm drain in question. The below left photo is of a Remington XP-100 Fireball handgun similar to the one Johnny Roselli may have used in the JFK assassination. The below right photo shows the amount of repaving done after the JFK assassination to obscure the storm drain location.)

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    • ‘Roselli laughed when hearing that Oswald was the sole assassin of President Kennedy.’ –Larry Hancock, Someone Would Have Talked, 2010.
    • ‘Roselli bragged to the source, who was a made man in La Cosa Nostra, that Roselli had shot at and may have killed John Kennedy… Roselli and his men then finished the job from the sewer drain and the grassy knoll while the police and witnesses were running around like chickens with their heads cut off.’ – M. Wesley Swearingen, To Kill A President, 2008.
    • ‘Before he died, Roselli had reportedly informed the Government that he believed his former associates in the Castro assassination plots had gone on to murder President Kennedy.’ Anthony Summers, Conspiracy, 1980.
    • ‘Roselli is another bad-ass. Johnny was Sam’s hit man before going to Hollywood and taking over the movie industry. He was in Dallas for the hit.’ – M. Wesley Swearingen, To Kill A President, 2008.
    • ‘I described it as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object – it seemed to have some type of an echo.’ – Secret Service Agent Clint Hill in Donald T. Phillips, A Deeper, Darker Truth, 2009.
    • ‘The origination point of that bullet corresponds exactly to the location of the storm sewer drain at the base of the steps on the north side of Elm Street…The assassin who fired the fatal headshot was hiding in the storm drain.’ – retired US Steel Engineer Tom Wilson in Donald T. Phillips, A Deeper, Darker Truth, 2009.
    • ‘A knowledgeable person, not given to reckless theories, told me the shooter escaped through the sewer that ended at the wooden fence…They then, reportedly, were flown to Houston, where they boarded a Cubana Airlines flight for Havana.’ – Chauncey Holt & Wim. Dankbaar, Self-Portrait of A Scoundrel, 2013.
    • ‘Looking in his rear view mirror, he (newsman Sam Pate) saw the presidential limousine slow down as it came to the curve in front of the grassy knoll. Then he observed a puff of smoke come from the storm sewer…Pete Lucas came up to Pate and told him that the man who killed President Kennedy had gotten away. Lucas went on to say that the assassin’s name was Bruno (aka Johnny Roselli), that he was short and stocky, and that he had been positioned in the storm sewer and “blew Kennedy away with a .45 automatic.”’– Donald T. Phillips, A Deeper, Darker Truth, 2009.
    • The shocked Pate continued to listen as Lucas further told him that ‘Bruno’ had made his escape through the sewer, emerging at a point near the Post Office, and then got into a car which drove him to the airport for a flight out of town. ‘Bruno’, he said, was from Chicago and an organized crime associate of Jack Ruby. Lucas did not say how he came upon this information, but Pate knew that he was a friend of Ruby.’ – Donald T. Phillips, A Deeper, Darker Truth, 2009.
    • ‘Perhaps he (Roselli) was also the one man who could implicate Trafficante and the CIA in the murder of Mooney (Sam) Giancana, and even more damning, in the assassination of the President of the United States and his presidential-hopeful brother.’– Sam & Chuck Giancana, Double Cross, 1991.
    • ‘What he did say had the Committee enthralled, and nervous enough not to go any further. However, when the committee finally decided near the end of its term that it had come across elements that might connect with the JFK assassination, Roselli was called a third time. At that point, he stopped talking. That decision did not prevent someone from playing it safe and silencing him. He was brutally murdered.’ – Larry Hancock, Someone Would Have Talked, 2010.

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    JFK’s head from the Dealey Plaza storm drain at the foot of the grassy knoll some years back and scoffed at it as some sort of disinformation, but it has started to seem more plausible after further review. This blog would be remiss without it. (UPDATE: Johnny Roselli’s manhole location has been moved over on the labeled Towner Photo. I had mistaken a shaded piece of curb as the sewer opening. It is corrected as of 11/23/13.)

    John ‘Handsome Johnny’ Roselli (aka Filippo Sacco) was an Organized Crime ‘liaison’ and ‘strategist’ who ran with the likes of Sam Giancana, Meyer Lansky, Santo Trafficante, Howard Hughes, Frank Sinatra, Tony Accardo, Moe Dalitz, Richard Cain, Jack Ruby and Carlos Marcello.

    He also had numerous CIA buddies and acquaintances from ‘the Agency’ including David Sanchez Morales, Tracy Barnes and William Harvey from the Mafia and CIA’s collaborative efforts to kill Fidel Castro in the years prior to the JFK assassination.

    Sometime in the early 1970’s, Roselli bragged to then fellow prison inmate Bill Bonanno that he had been the shooter who finished off the badly wounded JFK from a storm drain on Elm Street. JFK had been hit by several bullets in the back and throat and once in the chest, but was still clinging to life until Johnny Roselli finished him off with a near point-blank shot to the right temple as the limo slowed to a crawl for the kill shot.

    Throughout the JFK assassination literature there is mention of the use of a special, futuristic, prototype handgun called the Remington Fireball XP-100. This weapon was apparently manufactured to produce the lethal power and accuracy of a rifle in a portable handgun format.

    None of the JFK shooters mentioned on this blog: Richard Cain and Charles Nicolletti in the TSBD, Loran Hall in the Dal Tex Building, Charles Rogers, Charles Harrelson, Roscoe White and Bernard Barker on the Grassy Knoll area, nor Harry Weatherford on the roof of the County Records Building, would have been pressed for space from their shooting vantage points.

    (‘Wow, that’s a lot of gunmen and shots fired,’ you say? If one throws out Arlen Specter’s ridiculous, single, magic bullet wounding JFK and Governor Connally repeatedly and assumes that each wound came from a separate bullet, then 6 wounds in JFK plus 3 wounds in Connally plus 3+ missed shots adds up to 12+ shots fired!)

    The aforementioned JFK shooters would not have needed the Fireball XP-100 when regular long barreled rifles would have sufficed. One spot where space would truly have been at a premium, however, would have been under the manhole cover in the Dealey Plaza storm drain. Here the compact yet lethal Fireball XP-100 handgun would have been the perfect choice of weapon for the task given to Johnny Roselli.

    It is also interesting to note that the (altered) Zapruder Film conveniently scrolls on a slight angle which cuts off the area where Roselli and his pistol’s smoke plume would have been located during the motorcade! Was he edited out of the altered Zapruder Film versions the public has been allowed to see?

    Roselli was flown into Dallas prior to the JFK assassination by a man named Tosh Plumlee. Mr. Plumlee was a CIA pilot who claims that he was told he would be flying a ‘JFK Assassination Abort Team’ to Dallas to stop the assassination from happening. In hindsight, Mr. Plumlee may have been misled into unwittingly flying JFK’s assassins to Dallas for a ‘JFK Presidency Abort Team’ instead!

    Years later, in the 1970’s, the CIA and the Organized Criminals deemed ‘too valuable to kill’ including Lansky, Trafficante and Marcello would begin to purge their earlier JFK assassination co-conspirators such as Giancana, Cain, Roselli, Jimmy Hoffa, and Nicolletti to save their own skins and to prevent any damaging JFK assassination testimony from getting to the American public. Marcello and Trafficante would go on to help the CIA and themselves to immense drug trafficking profits in the 1970’s and 1980’s, some of which were funneled to CIA causes like the Nicaraguan ‘Contras.’

    Johnny Roselli’s strangled, stabbed, dismembered corpse floated to the surface of a Miami-area bay in an oil drum on August 7, 1976, in prime Trafficante territory. At the time of his death Johnny Roselli had been talking behind closed doors with the US Government’s Church Committee, a forerunner to the House Select Committee on Assassinations, which investigated abuses of power by the CIA and the intelligence community.

    Retired US Steel engineer turned JFK assassination researcher, Tom Wilson, deduced that the final, fatal, headshot which entered JFK’s right temple came from the lower right front at a trajectory not possible from the Grassy Knoll area from his photonic imaging studies as presented in a A Deeper, Darker Truth.

    Additionally, a Dallas news reporter named Sam Pate who was in a TV crew car in front of JFK’s limo also noticed what he thought was a puff of smoke arising from the storm drain as he glanced into his rear view mirror during the chaos of the assassination. Mr. Pate would go on to be fired shortly thereafter and later survived two separate car bomb attempts on his life for what he saw that day!

    A brief clip (10 mins.) from ‘The Men Who Killed Kennedy’ series discussing Tom Wilson’s research indicating that JFK’s fatal head shot came from the Dealey Plaza storm drain below:


    A brief clip(4 mins.) which mentions Johnny Roselli and some other JFK players:


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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    I just don't see how a shooter in the storm drain would have had hit the presidente, at that specfic time.


    Zapruder Frame 312 (just before 3rd shot)

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    Here are the locations of the storm drain and vehicle on Zapruder frame 313 (3rd shot occorring)

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    How would a shooter on a lower level make that shot, while the presidente was lean down and to the left, probably grasping for air. I say it would be impossible as there is no clear view of the presidente, and the bullet would have had to go through metal of the car, and there is no evidence of that...

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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    Quote Posted by gs_powered (here)
    I just don't see how a shooter in the storm drain would have had hit the presidente, at that specfic time.
    See this video:



    (Nothing to do with William Greer, the driver. That was a silly idea promoted by Bill Cooper. It's been 100% disproved. The apparent image of a gun is just a trick of reflected light. It's not a gun!)


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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    I did see the video, it's the physics that trouble me.

    As for Greer being the final shooter, Bill Cooper doens't take that image you posted, but rather the moment of the shot (you are probably aware that the "comercial" version of the Zapruder film, other than being shown in fast forward to hide the car almost coming to a full stop at the time of the 3rd shot, also hides information as the image is cut on the sides so you can't see the edges, including Greer and the movement he makes when the car comes to an halt). Cooper analyzes thart moment alone, and don't recall him trying to show a weapon on Greer hands or near him before that moment.

    Also to be noticeable, the 1st generation film he tought was buying from John Lear was actually already been worked on, specially through scraping of enulsion on the film. Seem to recall some work on the tail lights so the viewer wouldn't see the stop lights turning on. This said, even he only saw what "someone" else wanted him to see...
    Also, I guess the "kill shot" happening on frame 313 is also not just a coincidence...

    In any case, I guess these won't past the theories shleves, unless you take a huge leap of faith and believe any of this to be 100% true.

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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    Seven bullets were fired that day. It's all on the dictaphone tape inadvertently recorded by a motorcycle officer. No fusillade. No hail of bullets. Just 7. All firing angles were meticulously planned so that Jackie would not get hit. She might have been hit by a bullet from the storm drain.

    It is quite something to consider how many authors and how many versions of the assassination have surfaced. I have read from more than 2 sources that the grassy knoll shooter was a Frenchman from Marseilles France. A trained assassin brought over for the specific purpose of administering the fatal head shot. And the ONLY fingerprint found on the 6th floor of the School Book Depository belonged to Mac Wallace, LBJ's hit man. Consider this. A bullet fired from the sewer into JFK's skull would have exited on the left side of his brain. No such bullet path was found. Either by the doctors in Dallas or the Naval doctors in DC. I'll post more later.
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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    I bet every mobster, crook and hoodlum worth his salt, from the top bosses with their diamond-studded cufflinks and their pinstripe suits, down to the street corner refer-selling guttersnipe, at one time or another kicked back, winked an eye, and bragged they got the killshot that killed the president. And there have been many such.

    It's pretty clear to me that the CIA, in cahoots with the mob, were responsible for the hit. The crew of Frank Sturgis and E. Howard Hunt. It was them that did it your honour, smoking guns everywhere.

    Another take on this, and also in support of the storm drain theory, is here described by Francis Conolly. This also strongly intersects with Jim Marr's unified theory on the assassination. Starts 1hr 49m.

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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    sorry, Bill and all, but if one looks at the Zapruder film very carefully (one must look at it a few times because it goes by so fast) it was Jaquie Kennedy who pumped the fatal bullit into her own husband's neck;

    look, I'm sure there were shooters from the grassy knoll-

    but look at the film very carefuly: once JFK has obviously been hit at least once (he's slumped forward but because of his back brace wasn't able to do that too far)-

    then look very carefuly at the Zapruder film: Jaquie has a handkerchief OVER her hand (what was she concealing?), she goes under his neck and simultaneously a quick puff of white smoke (lasts only a second) emerges at the same time Kennedy's head flies back; bullits don't cause smoke; guns do;

    the Jaquie throws something behind the back seat and scrambles onto the trunk of the car; we can see it with our own eyes; it's just so blatant if one is discerning enough to view small details-

    view the Zapruder film; it's just so telling in these moments if one is mentally quick enough to see the obvious-

    stay well all-

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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    Quote Posted by gs_powered (here)
    I did see the video, it's the physics that trouble me.

    As for Greer being the final shooter, Bill Cooper doens't take that image you posted, but rather the moment of the shot...
    The physics troubles you?

    You are claiming that Greer fired a gun containing the 'mother of all magic bullets' whereby the nearest side of JFK's head to Greer was his left temple,
    but Greer's magic bullet did a quick 90 degree turn to the left the instant it was fired, whizzed past JFK's front, then made an abrupt 90 degree turn to the right
    and entered into JFK's right temple and exited the back left side of JFK's brain!

    But this physics doesn't trouble you?

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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

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    I also happen to be reading Mark Lane's last book, The Last Word, where he summarized his many years of research on the JFK hit. He barely mentions the mob. For Lane, it was CIA 95% and maybe a sprinkling of the other guys. Courageous guy, Mark Lane.
    There is a school of thought that the CIA hired the mafia to take out JFK. When you look at who benefits from the death of JFK and RFK there are only three plausible parties that make sense. When all three parties combine to assassinate the President it makes it a conspiracy extraordinaire and almost impossible to decipher. All three of these parties benefited greatly.

    CIA
    The CIA thought Kennedy was weak on communism, he was on record saying he was going to dramatically cut their budget (to the bone) and they thought he was weak on international foreign policy. We know that the CIA had Mafia connections regarding killing Fidel Castro of Cuba. So it is not much of a stretch to think they turned on Kennedy and used those connections to assassinate him.

    The Mafia
    Robert Kennedy believed he was responsible for his brother murder. He had prosecuted and punished the mafia in ways that shocked and stunned the mob. He had openly stated that he was just starting to make inroads to destroying the mafia. RFK stated to those that were close to him that the mafia had a hand in his brother's murder.

    President Johnson
    Lyndon Johnson the VP at the time knew that the only way he would ever be the President of the USA was for Kennedy to die in office. Johnson had an ego the size of Texas. In the sensational tapes recorded by the First Lady months after the President’s death, Jackie Kennedy revealed her belief that Johnson orchestrated the murder of her husband. She went on to state that the Dallas murder was part of a larger conspiracy to allow Johnson to become the American President in his own right. Also, Johnson was being investigated for corruption when Kennedy was assassinated, the investigations all went away the day he took office. At the time everyone in Washington DC knew that Johnson hated both Kennedy's, he considered them his personal tormentors.

    It appears to me to be fairly straight forward. Johnson is at the top of the pyramid, he gets the ball rolling with like-minded people at the CIA. The CIA had current and fresh contacts with the Mafia regarding making a hit on a world leader. The CIA hires the mafia to kill Kennedy. If the mafia gets caught they take all the blame and suffer the consequences, Johnson and the CIA are insulated. If the mafia gets away with it then it becomes the worlds greatest conspiracy.

    Either way, Johnson and the CIA control the flow of information so they could bury the documents for 100 years which is exactly what they did. Most documents have been released but some remain completely redacted and a small group of extremely important papers have never seen the light of day. There is a video taken aboard Air Force One that shows Johnson turning towards someone with a smile and winking. Johnson's wink and nod were one of approval and delight. That video seems to have gone missing from planet earth.

    In 1964, the Warren Commission concluded that Oswald was the only person responsible for assassinating Kennedy. I know for a fact that the Warren Commission did not believe this. They knew and at times were vocal that this assassination was, in fact, a conspiracy. I lived in Was DC for many years and met some of the investigators on the Warren Commission and they openly stated that it was not Oswald but it was a much broader conspiracy. After the report came out they refused to ever talk about it again.

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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    For more about Mafia involvement in the JFK assassination (which I'd always thought everyone knew about!), go to 14:34 in this very interesting interview with former Mafia Captain Michael Franzese. Franzese is a delight to listen to, clearly a totally reformed man with his integrity intact.

    (Aside: nothing to do with Jackie Kennedy, or William Greer the driver. In my very strong personal opinion, those allegations are (a) fully disproven, and (b) make little possible sense of any kind.)


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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    sorry, Bill and all, but if one looks at the Zapruder film very carefully (one must look at it a few times because it goes by so fast) it was Jaquie Kennedy who pumped the fatal bullit into her own husband's neck;

    look, I'm sure there were shooters from the grassy knoll-

    but look at the film very carefuly: once JFK has obviously been hit at least once (he's slumped forward but because of his back brace wasn't able to do that too far)-

    then look very carefuly at the Zapruder film: Jaquie has a handkerchief OVER her hand (what was she concealing?), she goes under his neck and simultaneously a quick puff of white smoke (lasts only a second) emerges at the same time Kennedy's head flies back; bullits don't cause smoke; guns do;

    the Jaquie throws something behind the back seat and scrambles onto the trunk of the car; we can see it with our own eyes; it's just so blatant if one is discerning enough to view small details-

    view the Zapruder film; it's just so telling in these moments if one is mentally quick enough to see the obvious-

    stay well all-

    Larry
    Note that the "Zapruder Film" released to the public is considered by some researchers to have been altered. Still... here's the best I have found. Jackie had white gloves on... no handkerchief... gloves.



    As for Greer, the image which some have interpreted as a gun is actually glare reflected by the top of the head of Agent Roy Kellerman who was riding in the front passenger seat.
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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

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    Quote Posted by gs_powered (here)
    I did see the video, it's the physics that trouble me.

    As for Greer being the final shooter, Bill Cooper doens't take that image you posted, but rather the moment of the shot...
    The physics troubles you?

    You are claiming that Greer fired a gun containing the 'mother of all magic bullets' whereby the nearest side of JFK's head to Greer was his left temple,
    but Greer's magic bullet did a quick 90 degree turn to the left the instant it was fired, whizzed past JFK's front, then made an abrupt 90 degree turn to the right
    and entered into JFK's right temple and exited the back left side of JFK's brain!

    But this physics doesn't trouble you?
    This reminds me of soccer comentators analysing the same footage and one sees a penalty while the other can't even see there was a foul...

    I don't see any obstacle for a clear shot by the driver, much less any need for magic bullets, although some believe this was a last resort shot, by that time the presidente needed to be dead and so it is possible it was indeed a "special" kind of bullet laced with toxins to prevent the brain from resisting, even if it was a non-fatal shot.

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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    Tony Gambino confirms the head shot came from the storm drain. He also says a LOT of other things, such as who sponsored Clint Eastwood's career, who killed Marilyn Monroe, where and why Jimmy Hoffa is buried, and who carried out 9/11:

    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 11th September 2019 at 21:07. Reason: embedded the video

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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Tony Gambino confirms the head shot came from the storm drain. He also says a LOT of other things, such as who sponsored Clint Eastwood's career, who killed Marilyn Monroe, where and why Jimmy Hoffa is buried, and who carried out 9/11:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV3QlqjHAMM
    Yes. For instance, from here:
    (very brief extract from a long and interesting article)
    Gambino set the record straight about the JFK assassination, saying he was in Dallas when Kennedy was shot and the fatal bullet came from a shooter located in an underground storm drain.
    "I was there when he was shot and I know for a fact Roselli was in the storm drain doing the shooting and Frank Sturgis was also part of the hit team," said Gambino. "The same group of guys we have talked about in the Vatican and U.S. government gave the orders and asked the Mafia families for help in taking down Kennedy."

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    Default Re: JFK: 3 shooters, the fatal bullet from Johnny Roselli in the storm drain.

    A further note about the many ex-Mafia members' statements.
    1. Everyone interviewed about this, over a number of years, has confirmed that the Mafia was deeply involved.
    2. All those who know say that the fatal-headshot shooter was Johnny Roselli from the storm drain.
    The factor here is the consistency. Mafia members, especially those who have left the 'Life' and are now talking, are in no way that well-organized or well-orchestrated to all be carefully choreographed to be saying exactly the same thing.

    They're all uncontrollable mavericks who somehow, either by luck or through their wits, have survived the carnage all around them. Their collective testimony — and there's a lot of it! — has to be taken extremely seriously.

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