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    Default Powers' "so called" plans.....

    The powers that are have a law that they have to let us know what they are doing and intend to do. Could it be more clear? even though they intend to eliminate us.

    so it stands to reason that we WARNED...

    If we are too stupid to see that then we get what we deserve...

    We should take action to preserve our existence.

    That is the law that they follow. That is NOT our law.

    It follows , logically that we have to counteract their plans to eliminate us.

    And possibly eliminate them...
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    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    The powers that are have a law that they have to let us know what they are doing and intend to do. Could it be more clear? even though they intend to eliminate us.

    so it stands to reason that we WARNED...

    If we are too stupid to see that then we get what we deserve...

    We should take action to preserve our existence.

    That is the law that they follow. That is NOT our law.

    It follows , logically that we have to counteract their plans to eliminate us.

    And possibly eliminate them...
    ~~~

    It really does seem to be the case that 'warnings' are often given. Or even straight statements. Sometimes subtle, sometimes in plain sight.

    As many have observed, there's this belief that it somehow gets them off the karmic hook. (It doesn't, of course, but that's THEIR belief system.)

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    Modern Eugenics comes from the Ivy League universities, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and a few others, and was zealously followed by for instance Sweden. It works a bit differently now, at least in the U. S., it is more of a slow medical elimination so the hospital and state can scarf your property.

    Rather than a personal vendetta, I see it more desirable to eliminate the power structure that allows them to operate, which is bodies of legislation. In the U. S., we have a perfectly legal option with no need for violence: renounce citizenship.

    That way, the Social Security, Federal Reserve, etc., would collapse almost overnight.

    All one is really doing is following the original American body of law, rather than the thousands or millions of statutory laws which are binding to citizens.

    That is why old European countries were frantically terrified of Thomas Paine and why an "American style" revolution in Europe was to be prevented at all costs. It almost happened in France but that got changed quick.

    In terms of leadership, there is probably a split between those who enjoy reigning over perpetual serfdom versus another type which is more genocidal. But all types rely on a system of oppression and favoritism.

    I mean, I have watched all my life some background mumbling like "maybe we shouldn't give Israel all this money" or whatever, but powerless vs. power has not shown much to convince me that having an opinion, matters. It takes something stronger to dispose of tyranny.

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    I suspect, another reason we are warned is to manipulate our collective focus on what they want to create. When we focus on the problem for a long time, we use our combined creative power to create what we are thinking about. Identification of a problem is useful to identify a solution. We always create by default or by deliberate imagination. When we focus on the problem we feel bad. When we focus on the solution we feel good.
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    We actually sign a contract to play by their rules.

    /s/
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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    We actually sign a contract to play by their rules.

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    Do you remember what rules are in your contract?

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    I did not sign a contract...….

    End of story...……...
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    If we renounce citizenship, can we be made to leave the country? Would we have to give up the assets and benefits, especially in old age, that we and our ancestors have worked to hard for? And should we not identify these BA****DS by name and actions?
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    If we renounce citizenship, can we be made to leave the country? Would we have to give up the assets and benefits, especially in old age, that we and our ancestors have worked to hard for? And should we not identify these BA****DS by name and actions?
    If you want to renounce your citizenship you have to set up citizenship elsewhere first, in your destination country. Yes, with no social security card, you would forfeit your social security pension.

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    Default Re: Powers' "so called" plans.....

    It seems to me that they feed off of misery and suffering.

    In an instant they can shut down all money systems, utilities, distribution networks and just let the masses all drop dead in a few months.
    Or they can just print as much money as they like and buy everything....

    Noting the above, they must get a kick or something else out of watching the torturous decline of the planet....Yes, I am aware many have said they somehow feed on misery. I kinda feel sorry for anyone or anything that is that way. Perhaps like factory farmers they are inured to the suffering of their cattle.?

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    For those who study contract/commercial law the concept of public notice is a basic premise.

    Where personal correspondence is delivered by hand or by mail to those who have an interest in a matter, if their commercial address is known -
    it is considered sufficient notice for any and all others, who may have an interest,
    to publish one's intent in the legal notices section of the local newspaper for 3 consecutive weeks.

    Obviously the latter premise is the one the 'powers' are operating on - although if you or I tried that it would be deemed insufficient and any claim rejected.

    Of course indignant outrage is predictable when people are held to account for failure to perform to the agreement in
    adhesion contracts (contracts they didn't know they signed up for).
    This is where people start challenging the fraud for failure of full disclosure - to which the rebuttal is always:

    Ignorance of the law(contract) is no excuse.

    *********

    In unravelling the layers deeper and deeper one could start by asking - Why is there a disclaimer at the start of a fictional film? Ever noticed that?

    If a noun is a tangible thing, could a 'no'-'un' (a 'no'-'no) be a double negative yielding a positive?

    Could a fiction telling a fiction be considered a fact?

    Conversely if the predicted event does not come to pass then - Whasa madda wid you? Ya tink da movies is real?

    Quite a brilliant strategy, really.

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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    We actually sign a contract to play by their rules.

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    Where and when did we sign such an agreement?
    Show me>>>>>?
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    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    We actually sign a contract to play by their rules.

    /s/
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    Where and when did we sign such an agreement?
    Show me>>>>>?
    Do you have citizenship?
    Do you have a driver license, SSN,etc?

    Have you ever rendered an unqualified signature to a government document (negotiable instrument)?

    Canadian Rob Menard said it pretty well years ago -

    (paraphrase) We submit applications of registration to the government.

    To submit - to bend to another's will

    Application - to apply means to beg and the assumption is: anyone who is begging knows what they are asking for.

    To register - to sign over legal title (10% controlling interest) to the government.

    Rob did a great job with Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception back then -funny guy.

    The government stole his baby girl and gained themselves one pissed off ex-marine.


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    I said when Trump was "Selected" that he was in there working for the FED and all the while he'd make it appear as if they were the enemy. So far that is just what he has done too. Like it was any secret when Trump was selected that they would immediately go to work on the three remaining hold outs to FED central banks being installed in their countries!

    Those three? North Korea, Syria, and Iran! As I understand it as things stand currently these three countries are the last ones left that do not have at least one FED bank installed. And these are just where Donald J. went to work right off the bat soon as he got after it and was sworn in. They'll batter each country in various ways over time via sanctions, rumors and leaks to divide the people and more. Bringing each country to it's knees begging for help is their specialty! The country will be starved, it will stormed on, earthquaked upon and once they are broken the bastards behind it all go in pretending to be heroes wanting nothing more than to help those poor people lead a better life!

    You know the routine! The powers tore it all down, the country breaks, they go in in the guise of helpers when in fact the first thing they do is to install a new central bank to loan those poor people money to help them rebuild! Help them to rebuild what they tore down? Yeah they have some nerve don't they!? Then they proceed to install puppet rulers if the one there won't play ball. They get him in and begin exploiting every natural and valued resource the country has. These three are the only ones the FED has not gotten to. Trump knows what his mission is and it's to get FED banks in each of these countries in 8 years time. Just watch as he goes about doing the bidding of his masters now doing just that.
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    I did not sign a contract...….

    End of story...……...
    Then why do you play by their rules. You did sign a contract according to their Maritime Law and the Laws of Commerce. Before this we had Common Law, where basically the only two laws were, Harm No Other & Do As You Say You'll Do. Notice the Laws of Commerce have about 25,000 times that number. You may have unwittingly signed the contract, but you did indeed.
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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    I did not sign a contract...….

    End of story...……...
    Then why do you play by their rules. You did sign a contract according to their Maritime Law and the Laws of Commerce. Before this we had Common Law, where basically the only two laws were, Harm No Other & Do As You Say You'll Do. Notice the Laws of Commerce have about 25,000 times that number. You may have unwittingly signed the contract, but you did indeed.
    You can become a sovereign citizen. Or, if you don't want to live as an outlaw with no social security for old age, you can get OTHER people to mortgage their futures in pursuit of your cause... But no, I suggest you pay your taxes, play by the rules, and take what you can get. The system will eventually crash and burn all on its own and you can be proven right at that time, without a bunch of needless suffering on your part.

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    If we renounce citizenship, can we be made to leave the country? Would we have to give up the assets and benefits, especially in old age, that we and our ancestors have worked to hard for? And should we not identify these BA****DS by name and actions?
    If you want to renounce your citizenship you have to set up citizenship elsewhere first, in your destination country. Yes, with no social security card, you would forfeit your social security pension.

    Not in the U. S., you cannot be forced out, but what you would need is private property, a domicile that is no longer real estate, unrecorded, purchased with lawful money. If you pay at least twenty-one silver dollars, it is protected by Article VII of the Constitution. That's pretty much what the revolution was fought for. So we would not be bound in mortgage and estate, which is like a permanent governmental lien.

    And yes, that is why I hesitate to do it, the thousands gouged for social security. If I had not been conned into it originally, I would not care, but when I was young, it was just "this is what you do", since the parents had no clue.

    The difficulty stems from the Federalists, around 1792-1800 they were highly opposed, Andrew Jackson being more or less the final leader against it. 1812, British attack to renew bank charter from 1792, Jackson came around 1820 and proudly killed the bank, after him, there was a failed secession, which led to the cementing of "Empire". I am not aware of another country that had the principles and laws like the U. S. originally did. Ours are still intact, but unless you make those changes and sacrifices, it doesn't matter.

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    Personally I believe one can bide their time in this situation, playing by the rules as needed, taking any benefits for doing so, and then waiting, and searching, for technology, and philosophy, that will give you independence. Enlightened individuals don't care too much about tptb because what tptb control isn't all that important. If you have food and shelter, most else is cosmetic. Of course one should try not to fall into their traps, such as debt enslavement or bigotry. Just as Jesus said, 'give unto Cesar that which is Cesar's'. You defeat their purpose by living a fulfilling life.

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    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    Personally I believe one can bide their time in this situation, playing by the rules as needed, taking any benefits for doing so, and then waiting, and searching, for technology, and philosophy, that will give you independence. Enlightened individuals don't care too much about tptb because what tptb control isn't all that important. If you have food and shelter, most else is cosmetic. Of course one should try not to fall into their traps, such as debt enslavement or bigotry. Just as Jesus said, 'give unto Cesar that which is Cesar's'. You defeat their purpose by living a fulfilling life.
    The easiest trap to avoid is cashlessness. Don't be too lazy to go to the ATM. If they succeed in making cash obsolete, they will know everything we do, such as purchasing a gun.
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    I see it this way; If they warn you directly or indirectly, their goal with it could be to distract your normal thinking and so you give the resulting bad or good energy the food to grow
    ALWAYS THINK POSITIVE DESPITE THE "FACTS" for facts are only meaningful if you accept them
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