All about Trump's 'impeachment'

[Gracy]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
I never heard openly the terms deep state, fake news , before trump. he uses twitter , fabricates and exaggerates openly, rather than with a smooth hidden and appropriate exterior.

Thank you Doug. This is something I actually give him credit for all day long, as he has imo single handedly ripped the thin veneer off of the traditional slick, smooth talking politician like Obama, and is personally demonstrating more of what is really going on behind it.

Many of us already pretty much knew this is what was happening already but, it's refreshing to see it laid out in living color minus the bulls**t.

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
And he doesn't perpetuate these continual wars that seem to be the way of life for Washington.

I'm more than happy to be corrected, but I really do pay quite close attention, can you point me to any hot spot conflicts where he has pulled out the troops and sent them home?

Not playing the old game of playing yo yo with troop numbers up and down, but actually just "get em out of there and bring em home"? This includes proxy wars like his support of our buds the Saudis in their horrific assault on Yemen.

We could discuss sanctions at a later point, which used to be called siege warfare, but I don't want to muddy the waters too much.

[thepainterdoug]

Gracie, I keep informed but I'm not really a news and MSM watcher on a regular basis. I can't mention in particular what you are asking, but I do know we haven't invaded another country, ie N Korea, Iran , RUSSIA LOL etc.

Trump seems to want to stop the endless MIBComplex wars. Thats all i mean. Im an artist, not a foreign policy expert. But Im very sensitive to the young men sent to war for no more reason than to keep the war economy going. We need another way. And maybe this Trump wild card will actually benefit us all.

[Gracy]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Gracie, I keep informed but I'm not really a news and MSM watcher on a regular basis. I can't mention in particular what you are asking, but I do know we haven't invaded another country, ie N Korea, Iran , RUSSIA LOL etc.

Doug, I give Trump kudos on North Korea, gotta give credit where credit's due, at least there's communication, and he put a stop to those endless military exercises right off their coast whose sole function was practicing, and simulating, invasion. Extremely provocative they were.

We are however still strangling the poor people of North Korea and Iran with those insidious sanctions, same with Venezuela and Syria, and Trump vetoed a senate bill requiring us to stop arming and assisting the Saudis in their ruthless endeavors in Yemen.

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Trump seems to want to stop the endless MIBComplex wars. Thats all i mean. Im an artist, not a foreign policy expert. But Im very sensitive to the young men sent to war for no more reason than to keep the war economy going. We need another way. And maybe this Trump wild card will actually benefit us all.

I hear ya, and the man said a lot of things while campaigning that were music to my ears about stopping the endless wars, but the bottom line is he simply hasn't done so. I can feel that you have a big heart, and so do I, my heart breaks daily not only thinking about our own that are needlessly dying overseas, but also for the people who live there that are being walked all over by our own who are just following orders, and are mostly under the illusion that they are really there to help spread democracy.

Whether by coup, hunger, lack of medicine, drone strike, bomb, or bullet, we are spreading a whole lot of misery around the world. It's in my name, I don't like it no matter whos sitting in the big chair, and I wish to hell it would stop, but that big ugly blood stained machine just keeps on a churnin.

And now the machine is proudly and openly looting the Syrian oil fields. How does that make us look to the rest of the world?

To bring us back to subject, THIS type of thing is what I would be impeaching the president over, not the ridiculous naughty phone call. But democrats are all about the war machine too so they can't go down that road.

You're absolutely right Doug, and I'm with you 100%,we DO need another way, but I'm just not seeing it...

[thepainterdoug]

Gracie May said / "But democrats are all about the war machine too so they can't go down that road."

and this is the problem Gracie . we are always talking about the lessor of two evils. there is no party, no person who is going to take a non interventionist stand in the world. And perhaps maybe they can't? Perhaps we don't know, what we don't know regarding their reasoning and the reality of this world

and by the way, I like to flip the term and use as " the evil of two lessors " . Seems no one wanted anything to do with Ron Paul years back and he was against war.

[onawah]

Some of us actually know quite a lot, such as what Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 are doing, one of the major ways the puppet masters are keeping control over the world.
See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1326428
And we actually also know why--because they WANT CONTROL OVER THE WORLD, over every aspect of the world.
As long as the puppet masters are in power, the few politicians who are sincerely wanting to do good will be allowed to run, even occasionally to win, but not for long.
They have to keep us thinking we have choices beyond the lesser of two evils until their plans are implemented to the point that it simply doesn't matter what we think.
( Remember the "thought police" from Orwell's novel 1984?)
The noose is tightening, and until the 100th monkey principal takes effect and enough know this and are willing to do something about it, the culling will no doubt continue as planned.
Their weaponry to control us even at that point is already being put into place.
The coming ice age will no doubt do a lot of their dirty work for them and many will simply starve to death.
See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1326752
But if you are basing your opinions on what you read in the MSM, you will never know the truth. See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1326522

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
G Perhaps we don't know, what we don't know regarding their reasoning and the reality of this world

and by the way, I like to flip the term and use as " the evil of two lessors " . Seems no one wanted anything to do with Ron Paul years back and he was against war.

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Fox News Host SUSPENDED On Twitter For Reporting News, They're Banning Journalism Now YOU WERE WARNED

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0vpEcDNQ1mo

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Watch – InfoWars Host Disrupts Impeachment Hearing: ‘America’s Sick of the Treason Committed by the Democrat Party’

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6NsvzmZ7crg

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[onawah]

Nadler Failed to Swear in Witnesses at Judiciary Impeachment Hearings
12/9/19
(This seems significant evidence to me of very blatant and underhanded dealings)

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ment-hearings/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DV_vcEWeBb8

"House Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) failed to swear in the two counsels for both the Democrats and Republicans prior to their opening statements in Monday’s impeachment inquiry hearing.

Though staff members are not typically sworn in, witnesses must be sworn in and deliver testimony under oath.

Both Democrat counsel Barry Berke and Republican Counsel Stephen Castor delivered opening statements. Berke in particular made several factual assertions — many of which were dubious at best, and outright false at worst.

For example, Berke claimed that State Department staffer David Holmes had “heard it from the president himself” when he testified that President Donald Trump was interested in Ukraine conducting investigations.

In fact, Holmes had not heard anything directly from the president. Rather, he claimed to have overheard part of a conversation on a mobile phone between U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland and the president. Sondland was at an outdoor table at a restaurant at the time, and Holmes had been drinking wine with him and two other staffers. Despite a habit of taking notes, and despite the fact that he later emailed the U.S. embassy in Sweden about a part of the conversation dealing with then-jailed U.S. rapper A$AP Rocky, Holmes never wrote down what he later claimed he heard the president telling Sondland. Burke suggested, however, that he heard the president first-hand.

In addition, Berke played a deceptively edited clip of President Trump speaking at a Turning Point USA conference, claiming that the president believed he could do “whatever I want.” In fact, as the full context of the president’s statement — a fragment of a sentence — made clear, Trump was talking specifically about his power to fire Special Counsel Robert Mueller, which he did not ultimately do.

Nadler’s failure to swear in the witnesses was significant because it allowed the counsels to make claims without fear of perjuring themselves.

It was also significant for another reason: when Republicans raised a point of order, objecting to Berke impugning the president’s motives, which is forbidden under House rules, Nadler ruled that the point of order was invalid because Berke was not a witness.

Later, Nadler described Berke and Castor as witnesses, prompting Republican objections that he had contradicted himself.

Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News. He earned an A.B. in Social Studies and Environmental Science and Public Policy from Harvard College, and a J.D. from Harvard Law School. He is a winner of the 2018 Robert Novak Journalism Alumni Fellowship. He is also the co-author of How Trump Won: The Inside Story of a Revolution, which is available from Regnery. Follow him on Twitter at @joelpollak. "

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Rep. Collins Makes Dem Counsel Sweat, Exposes Biden's Real Quid Pro Quo

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QecADOxYcdE

Rep. Doug Collins made the Democrat's lawyer sweat in the impeachment hearings today, calling out the lack of evidence they have on Trump and exposing Joe Biden's Quid Pro Quo. WATCH Rep. Gaetz GO OFF on Dem Chairman During Impeachment Hearing

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IG Report: FBI, DOJ, CIA Knew Dossier Was False, But Continued Operation Against Trump

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RKqKQ4raBhE

[rgray222]

The point of this post is that the President should have done something so heinous that "most Americans" would readily agree with impeachment. There is nothing out there that even comes close to reaching this level. As a matter of fact, most Americans do not want to see Trump impeached. The party trying to impeach Trump is not even sure about how many or what articles of impeachment they will use. The Trump haters and the Democratic party faithful that are screaming for impeachment don't really matter in this process. If they can't bring the rest of the country along it is going to be an unmitigated disaster for the Democrats somewhere down the road.

The only conclusion that can be reached is that this is a political stunt aimed at damaging Trump in the runup to the 2020 elections. This all about power and politics and not about helping people or bettering the country.

People cast their ballot for Trump in anger at the corrupt political system. They cast their ballots while saying it is no longer business as usual. This entire impeachment process only confirms to Trump supporters:

• The system is corrupt
• The mainstream media are dishonest and nothing more than political activist
• The deep state is real and well-entrenched (in both parties)

[thepainterdoug]

RGRAY/ The system is corrupt
The mainstream media are dishonest and nothing more than political activist
The deep state is real and well-entrenched (in both parties)


yes, and this is why we are all on the outside, looking in and trying to understand what is going on, what is real?
That is why i don't take too much of a righteous attitude about anything I believe I know , see or say.

[onawah]

The trouble is that the crimes of the elite have become so heinous over time that we've become numb and expect nothing different.
Trump's support of the Zionists and the crimes against Julian Assange are heinous enough for me.

Posted by rgray222 (here)
The point of this post is that the President should have done something so heinous that "most Americans" would readily agree with impeachment. There is nothing out there that even comes close to reaching this level. As a matter of fact, most Americans do not want to see Trump impeached. The party trying to impeach Trump is not even sure about how many or what articles of impeachment they will use. The Trump haters and the Democratic party faithful that are screaming for impeachment don't really matter in this process. If they can't bring the rest of the country along it is going to be an unmitigated disaster for the Democrats somewhere down the road.

The only conclusion that can be reached is that this is a political stunt aimed at damaging Trump in the runup to the 2020 elections. This all about power and politics and not about helping people or bettering the country.

People cast their ballot for Trump in anger at the corrupt political system. They cast their ballots while saying it is no longer business as usual. This entire impeachment process only confirms to Trump supporters:

• The system is corrupt
• The mainstream media are dishonest and nothing more than political activist
• The deep state is real and well-entrenched (in both parties)

[TomKat]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
The point of this post is that the President should have done something so heinous that "most Americans" would readily agree with impeachment. There is nothing out there that even comes close to reaching this level. As a matter of fact, most Americans do not want to see Trump impeached. The party trying to impeach Trump is not even sure about how many or what articles of impeachment they will use. The Trump haters and the Democratic party faithful that are screaming for impeachment don't really matter in this process. If they can't bring the rest of the country along it is going to be an unmitigated disaster for the Democrats somewhere down the road.

The only conclusion that can be reached is that this is a political stunt aimed at damaging Trump in the runup to the 2020 elections. This all about power and politics and not about helping people or bettering the country.

People cast their ballot for Trump in anger at the corrupt political system. They cast their ballots while saying it is no longer business as usual. This entire impeachment process only confirms to Trump supporters:

• The system is corrupt
• The mainstream media are dishonest and nothing more than political activist
• The deep state is real and well-entrenched (in both parties)

I agree on all points. But I also remember when the Republicans impeached Bill Clinton for lying about Monica Lewinsky. Abuse of the system for partisan reasons tends to backfire.

[onawah]

Not to mention Trump supporting 5G. See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1327028
[QUOTE=onawah;1327023]The trouble is that the crimes of the elite have become so heinous over time that we've become numb and expect nothing different.
Trump's support of the Zionists and the crimes against Julian Assange are heinous enough for me.

Posted by rgray222 (here)
The point of this post is that the President should have done something so heinous that "most Americans" would readily agree with impeachment. There is nothing out there that even comes close to reaching this level.

[apokalypse]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
[*]The system is corrupt[*]The mainstream media are dishonest and nothing more than political activist[*]The deep state is real and well-entrenched (in both parties)[/LIST][/B]

yep, people fall the trap of taking sides...IG report release i'm amaze TPTB what people calling it now Deep State so powerful how they control intel-media and politician from both sides.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3YOD_fdrnJE

that was good discussion how i feel and see with current landscape of news became predictable read the headlines know where it came from...

i was on the the chat room hearing people talking about trump amaze me that they more like MSM from NYT-CNN..ect not going outside the box. the more they into it the more they became their mouth piece...one dumb ass pro clinton saying along the line of CIA whistle blower against trump over ukraine are the hero not Snowden and people follow along because people who never read or research for themselves.

really encourage people who look into these kind of news like Trump impeachment need to take step back not blindly follow what MSM/politician said to see what's going on.

[ExomatrixTV]

Above is just a reminder

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Rep. Collins slams Dems in opening statement: 'Facts be damned'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LSH62Wmbli0

The committee resumes their markup to iron out the details of the articles of impeachment that Pelosi and other Dem leaders introduced earlier this week. Afterwards, the charges will go to the House floor for all members to vote on.