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    Lightbulb New Tesla battery uses alt-world power to achieve 1 million miles?

    https://www.ibtimes.com/tesla-pickup...attery-2837122

    They are not saying it, but it makes you wonder.

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    Default Re: New Tesla battery uses alt-world power to achieve 1 million miles?

    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    https://www.ibtimes.com/tesla-pickup...attery-2837122

    They are not saying it, but it makes you wonder.
    This here is the patent application.

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    Default Re: New Tesla battery uses alt-world power to achieve 1 million miles?

    Very interesting.

    If you had such a battery in your car and you drive an average of 20,000 miles a year, your car's battery would last 50 years. I doubt, however, that the car itself would last 50 years. What would the price tag be on a vehicle with such a battery?

    Also, if they can make a battery last one million miles, under heavy loads common to what vehicles experience, think of the other applications of such a battery to such things as alternative ways of heating and cooling homes and offices etc....

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    Default Re: New Tesla battery uses alt-world power to achieve 1 million miles?

    It's hard not to be skeptical about the alleged claims in this article. Are they actually claiming that this e-truck could travel 1 million miles on 1 charge? Or is it's estimated service life 1 million miles with x number of charges? This ambiguity raises reasonable doubt about this hyperbole.

    And claiming that the truck can tow 150 tons is likely a vast overstatement when current trucks can tow around 11 tons, max.

    If Musk is actually making these claims, maybe he's quoting the e-truck's performance when Elon settles on Mars? 😱

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    Default Re: New Tesla battery uses alt-world power to achieve 1 million miles?

    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    It's hard not to be skeptical about the alleged claims in this article. Are they actually claiming that this e-truck could travel 1 million miles on 1 charge? Or is it's estimated service life 1 million miles with x number of charges? This ambiguity raises reasonable doubt about this hyperbole.
    It's the service life of the battery, not the charge life.

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    And claiming that the truck can tow 150 tons is likely a vast overstatement when current trucks can tow around 11 tons, max.
    Not necessarily. An electric motor provides maximum torque from the moment it is powered on, regardless of the revolutions per minute ─ unlike diesel or petrol/gasoline engines, which have a very narrow torque band within the rev range. Electric motors also have a whole lot more torque as well.

    By the way, a modern-day long-distance diesel truck in tractor-and-trailer configuration can generally tow some 40 metric tons or more ─ they could already pull up to 20 and in some cases even 30 metric tons in the 1960s, which was long before the majority of them were fitted with turbochargers.

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    Default Re: New Tesla battery uses alt-world power to achieve 1 million miles?

    What is alt-world power? This is about a lithium ion battery with experimental data pulled from a unit made by Panasonic.

    How much energy and industry it takes to concoct this stuff and possibly use fluorine-based electrolytes is questionable. Similar to how making bio-diesel is apparently a net energy loss, or farming animals for meat. The main thing they are changing is electrolytes, such as:

    1,2,6-OXODITHIANE-2,2,6,6-TETRAOXIDE

    Is it an improvement to gasoline to drive on this stuff, and "move the pollution down the road" to a coal-fired power plant?

    If we're going to use batteries, I suppose a better one is an improvement, but so far I don't see a sustainable future in those either.

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    Default Re: New Tesla battery uses alt-world power to achieve 1 million miles?

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    Default Re: New Tesla battery uses alt-world power to achieve 1 million miles?

    Funny how your mind can see what it wants to see.

    When I first read 'New Tesla battery uses alt-world power to achieve 1 million miles'

    I thought it was, you can travel '1 million miles' on one charge lol O.0

    Now that really would be something.
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    The highest milage Tesla in Germany had its battery replaced after half a million miles, so this is "just" a doubling.

    The important question is not if you would ever drive your car for a million miles but how much resources are used to produce or recycle batteries. If they last longer, then they could be used in more than one car or work for decades in houses with solar roofs.
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    And claiming that the truck can tow 150 tons is likely a vast overstatement when current trucks can tow around 11 tons, max.
    By the way, a modern-day long-distance diesel truck in tractor-and-trailer configuration can generally tow some 40 metric tons or more ─ they could already pull up to 20 and in some cases even 30 metric tons in the 1960s, which was long before the majority of them were fitted with turbochargers.
    Yes ... How much a truck can tow, and how much a truck is allowed to tow on the highway within safety regulations are two very different things.

    Off road logging trucks (somewhat modified) can tow up to 400 tons ...
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
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