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    https://www.ibtimes.com/tesla-pickup...attery-2837122

    They are not saying it, but it makes you wonder.

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    Default Re: New electric batteries with hugely extended mileage

    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    https://www.ibtimes.com/tesla-pickup...attery-2837122

    They are not saying it, but it makes you wonder.
    This here is the patent application.

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    Default Re: New electric batteries with hugely extended mileage

    Very interesting.

    If you had such a battery in your car and you drive an average of 20,000 miles a year, your car's battery would last 50 years. I doubt, however, that the car itself would last 50 years. What would the price tag be on a vehicle with such a battery?

    Also, if they can make a battery last one million miles, under heavy loads common to what vehicles experience, think of the other applications of such a battery to such things as alternative ways of heating and cooling homes and offices etc....

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    It's hard not to be skeptical about the alleged claims in this article. Are they actually claiming that this e-truck could travel 1 million miles on 1 charge? Or is it's estimated service life 1 million miles with x number of charges? This ambiguity raises reasonable doubt about this hyperbole.

    And claiming that the truck can tow 150 tons is likely a vast overstatement when current trucks can tow around 11 tons, max.

    If Musk is actually making these claims, maybe he's quoting the e-truck's performance when Elon settles on Mars? 😱

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    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    It's hard not to be skeptical about the alleged claims in this article. Are they actually claiming that this e-truck could travel 1 million miles on 1 charge? Or is it's estimated service life 1 million miles with x number of charges? This ambiguity raises reasonable doubt about this hyperbole.
    It's the service life of the battery, not the charge life.

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    And claiming that the truck can tow 150 tons is likely a vast overstatement when current trucks can tow around 11 tons, max.
    Not necessarily. An electric motor provides maximum torque from the moment it is powered on, regardless of the revolutions per minute ─ unlike diesel or petrol/gasoline engines, which have a very narrow torque band within the rev range. Electric motors also have a whole lot more torque as well.

    By the way, a modern-day long-distance diesel truck in tractor-and-trailer configuration can generally tow some 40 metric tons or more ─ they could already pull up to 20 and in some cases even 30 metric tons in the 1960s, which was long before the majority of them were fitted with turbochargers.

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    What is alt-world power? This is about a lithium ion battery with experimental data pulled from a unit made by Panasonic.

    How much energy and industry it takes to concoct this stuff and possibly use fluorine-based electrolytes is questionable. Similar to how making bio-diesel is apparently a net energy loss, or farming animals for meat. The main thing they are changing is electrolytes, such as:

    1,2,6-OXODITHIANE-2,2,6,6-TETRAOXIDE

    Is it an improvement to gasoline to drive on this stuff, and "move the pollution down the road" to a coal-fired power plant?

    If we're going to use batteries, I suppose a better one is an improvement, but so far I don't see a sustainable future in those either.

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    The secret for their durability seems to be the NMC532 crystals.


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    I think these types of high efficient electrical devices are swamping the market. I read research 5 years ago of cheap carbon based batteries that are much more efficient than lith-ion and more efficient with no recycling hazards. The marketplace is demanding this kind of tech and suppression of good tech is becoming more difficult, as reported below. No wonder that the rockefeller foundation sold all their fossil fuel investments.

    Imagine the satisfaction of driving your environmentally friendly electric car for 1,500 miles without having to stop to recharge the battery – a distance more than four times as far as the best and most expensive model currently on the road.

    Under the bonnet is a revolutionary new type of battery which, unlike those used in conventional electric cars, can also power buses, huge lorries and even aircraft. What's more, it's far simpler and cheaper to make than the batteries currently in use in millions of electric vehicles around the world – and, unlike them, it can easily be recycled.

    This might sound like a science-fiction fantasy. But it's not. Last Friday, the battery's inventor, British engineer and former Royal Navy officer Trevor Jackson, signed a multi-million-pound deal to start manufacturing the device on a large scale in the UK.

    The father-of-eight battery inventor engineer, Trevor Jackson, 58 from Tavistock, Devon, who has signed a multi-million-pound deal to start manufacturing the device on a large scale in the UK
    Austin Electric, an engineering firm based in Essex, which now owns the rights to use the old Austin Motor Company logo, will begin putting thousands of them into electric vehicles next year. According to Austin's chief executive, Danny Corcoran, the new technology is a 'game-changer'.

    'It can help trigger the next industrial revolution. The advantages over traditional electric vehicle batteries are enormous,' he said.

    Few will have heard of Jackson's extraordinary invention. The reason, he says, is that since he and his company Metalectrique Ltd came up with a prototype a decade ago, he has faced determined opposition from the automobile industry establishment.

    It has every reason not to give ground to a competitor that may, in time, render its own technology obsolete. Car industry sceptics claim Trevor's technology is unproven, and its benefits exaggerated.

    But an independent evaluation by the Government agency UK Trade and Investment said in 2017 that it was a 'very attractive battery' based on 'well established' technology, and that it produced much more energy per kilogram than standard electric vehicle types.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...arging-it.html

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    Default Re: New electric batteries with hugely extended mileage

    @Justplain and all readers-

    electric car technology is still in ints infancy at least as being bought by the European public-

    the price of electric cars sold here in Germany starts at ca. 35.000 Euros; not for the poor or lower middle class (not even for the upper middle class)-

    anyway, how many zero point/free energy sources out there that would make electric cars redundant



    the electric cars being sold here in Germany have (at best- according to slogans) only up to 485 kilometers-

    and according to latest reports there are only 16.000 tanking stations for the batteries (need to be at least 3X that many)-

    and most parking/tanking stations for electric cars are being carelessly/unthinkingly occupied by cars with combustible engines!-

    be well all-

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    we need to be care about the price$ of electrical energy.

    ok, we have electrical cars, but the source of supply matters.
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    Again. What are the effects of the EM field on the body electric, bio-magnetic, bio-chemical? The acceptance and/or rejection of the use of these fields in our personal spaces has to be measured with the effects upon our bodies response, especially our immune system's response.

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    Funny how your mind can see what it wants to see.

    When I first read 'New Tesla battery uses alt-world power to achieve 1 million miles'

    I thought it was, you can travel '1 million miles' on one charge lol O.0

    Now that really would be something.
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    Default Re: New electric batteries with hugely extended mileage

    The highest milage Tesla in Germany had its battery replaced after half a million miles, so this is "just" a doubling.

    The important question is not if you would ever drive your car for a million miles but how much resources are used to produce or recycle batteries. If they last longer, then they could be used in more than one car or work for decades in houses with solar roofs.
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    And claiming that the truck can tow 150 tons is likely a vast overstatement when current trucks can tow around 11 tons, max.
    By the way, a modern-day long-distance diesel truck in tractor-and-trailer configuration can generally tow some 40 metric tons or more ─ they could already pull up to 20 and in some cases even 30 metric tons in the 1960s, which was long before the majority of them were fitted with turbochargers.
    Yes ... How much a truck can tow, and how much a truck is allowed to tow on the highway within safety regulations are two very different things.

    Off road logging trucks (somewhat modified) can tow up to 400 tons ...
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