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    Triggered people triggering people. The internet is heavy with emotional responses to very real issues that strike fear in our hearts. We all have our stories that color how we perceive reality. These stories act to both highlight and obscure what we are able to perceive.

    It can feel so important that people see the validity of our perspective....and I see people's strong need to demonstrate the validity of their truth. But the results from these exploits often only act to distance, to hurt, to put up bigger walls. We all have blind spots, and no one can be forced to see their own. It is usually when we feel safe, when we feel supported, when we feel accepted that we allow ourselves to expand our horizons and see beyond our limiting walls and blind spots.

    Right now the state of life on this planet is like a fire burning beneath all our feet. Regardless of what we see as the source of the fire, people are feeling this in a very real sense...everyone is on edge to some degree.

    I feel division will be the real fuel of our downfall, and it seems to be increasing exponentially as our situation gets more dire. There are massive real social,environmental, political threats that will increasingly affect our mental, emotional and physical well-being. And I feel the healing that we so desperately need, on so many levels will never come through pushing or prodding, the solutions we are looking for will only come through uniting, through finding our common ground, and through supporting each other. We all hold pieces of truth...and the answer is not one OR the other, it is bringing all the pieces together to discover the big picture ❤ I created this chart below as a hopefully useful guide....

    Btw I do not know how the upload picture works! It asks for a url so I assume it needs to be on a webpage? Well it didn't work...so am editing and putting link here:
    https://www.christinalaverscoaching.com/offerings.php

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    Postimage.org is excellent. Use them to upload your image and then use the direct link for the url. This is what I do, so I am sure there are simpler ways.

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    I really enjoyed reading your chart. I agree on what you have to say, and think you have a beautifully eloquent way of saying it. I think we do post personal stories sometimes in the hopes that someone out there will see us, grab us, shake us and ask, "Are you alright?" It's difficult sometimes to draw that line between too much and just enough, or maybe not enough. Maybe you need it and you're missing it.

    Personally I have just posted without boundaries, without thinking. I have been open and honest. I don't do it because I seek attention, I do it because that is who I am and I want you to understand me.
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    Quote Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
    I feel division will be the real fuel of our downfall]
    I've been thinking on how every new piece of technology keeps making us more self reliable and independant, and ultimately in no need of "real" connections...

    Loved your chart btw

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    Thanks so much for doing this!! Years ago it seemed this was common thing to have to do I remember I used photobucket I think, but I wouldn't even remember how to sign in anymore.

    Also RogueEllis, I loved what you said about reaching out and asking...are you alright? We need more of that.

    And gs powered yes it is very interesting to look at how tech influences our interactions. I see a lot of people saying things online that I doubt they would say oif they were face to face.
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    Quote Posted by RogueEllis (here)
    Postimage.org is excellent. Use them to upload your image and then use the direct link for the url.
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    Thanks so much for doing this!! Years ago it seemed this was common thing to have to do I remember I used photobucket I think, but I wouldn't even remember how to sign in anymore.
    Thanks, RogueEllis. It seems I was working on this image while you uploaded yours.

    enfoldedblue, Photobucket charges now so I switched to imgur.com.

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    Great teamwork everyone, great chart too, thanks for posting.
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    Quote Posted by gs_powered (here)
    I've been thinking on how every new piece of technology keeps making us more self reliable and independant, and ultimately in no need of "real" connections...
    Yes, it tends to backfire.

    I am thinking of basics like a washing machine...tons of time and labor are saved by it. But how is the additional leisure time afforded by machines used?

    A "machine for everything", especially to the extent of "machines in place of other people", is not the direction I would like to go.

    It really is not just the net--which is a machine that amplifies mental and emotional garbage about like a gun amplifies a fight--sadly it does reflect the actual mass of population as themselves. Most of them are really easy to set off. Or, it is normal for them to spread bile everywhere.

    I suppose there may be a certain breed who will say things online that "they never would in person", but I am not easily persuaded that a person who readily posts or chats something nasty, is necessarily being much different than they really are. Neither one is very likely to pay much attention to the steps in that flowchart, which, a hundred years ago was probably taught as etiquette or common courtesy; not sure if it is even still around.

    Division of the human race into competitive, struggling parts I agree is a recipe for disaster. I am rather guilty of defecting, at least mentally, from whatever the social engineering was intended to produce. So the normal emotional clash has no effect on me. Nevertheless I am positive that, not just in this country, but in almost any locality I would have no trouble finding groups who strongly believe that "harming person type x would be a fine thing to do". It's not really new, it just is that way, regrettable as it is.

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    Quote Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
    I feel division will be the real fuel of our downfall]
    I've been thinking on how every new piece of technology keeps making us more self reliable and independant, and ultimately in no need of "real" connections...
    I quoted this above, because I found two relevant things to Note:

    (1) feel division - from the art of war book, Divide and Conquer its a preferential strategy to downfall the Target, so instead of the conqueror having to fight with the conquered, he induces the conquered to fight each other.

    (2) new piece of technology keeps making us more self reliable and independant - independant from each other, BUT, making us technology dependent. With so much technologies, variations and versions, no wonder the Human (society) Division can be so large and dispersed.

    The seduction by artificial technology are separating humans from their nature (and from the natural world), and that's the big trick. In fact, artificial technology is usually a coarse imitation of some resource that exists in nature itself. It's ironic.

    I understand that the chart Algorithm is trying to get around this big problem, as the popular saying goes, Careless Talk Cost Lives.

    Quote Posted by RogueEllis (here)
    Personally I have just posted without boundaries, without thinking. I have been open and honest. I don't do it because I seek attention, I do it because that is who I am and I want you to understand me.
    There is no harm in being open and honest, because it's a legitimate manifestation and the most that can happen is to be criticized, which may be opportune to avoid divisions and understand each other.
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    A great example of creative thinking! Identify a problem and set to work the imagination to help ameliorate it or even better forestall it.

    Congratulations enfoldedblue, that chart would grace or be a welcome addition to the introductory guidelines of any forum.
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    With enough online practice, this could be applied everywhere! Great job, very simplistic and easy to understand reasoning.

    One of the best things about posting online is having enough time to check yourself.

    For the "in-person" situations it's tough to catch sometimes, and I think it might just be a matter of "thinking more quickly". Sometimes you have to say something in person, whereas online you don't necessarily have to say anything at all.

    For example an elderly man once noticed me smoking in my car, and scolded me. I could have ignored him, but instead I chose to say (while smiling) "Why don't you mind your own business?". Situation averted

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