Who will win the US presidency in 2020?

[thepainterdoug]

Hello all, a survey,


Regardless of opinion, regardless of preference etc

Who do you believe will win the Presidency ?

your reasons for your choice , welcome

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[ExomatrixTV]

Why is it important for you @thepainterdoug to ask for the obvious? ... or are you just having fun how some do (pretend) not see the obvious?

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[thepainterdoug]

EXO/ just a curiosity. and certainly a legitimate thing people will be interested in and debating. any harm done?

[Bill Ryan]

I'm happy to kick the ball to get it moving.

I think Trump will be re-elected. But my concern would be what happens to the country after that. Not because of him, but because of his psychopathic opposition, and not just in Washington.

[pyrangello]

When President Trump just visited Minnesota for a rally, 20,000 were in attendance, 25,000 were outside of the auditorium , and 100,000 applied for tickets for the event. The wack job media is doing its best to make this president and his cabinet look the absolute worst but guess what. The American people aren't buying this shxx anymore from the media that walks hand in hand with the EXTREME LIBERAL side and Hollywood. I'm an independent and there are role models who are Democrats, Republicans and independents in this country, problem is the media latches onto anything extreme and nothing productive or in the best interests of us Americans.

When President Trump was elected President , There were some Extremist who wanted to buy Twitter so he couldn't get his message out. And then when President Trump came to Michigan and the Metro Detroit area last year my buddy and his family walked 2 miles to get to the rally because of all the parked cars and couldn't get in because it was full but he said to me his was just glad to be there. I have another buddy who is in the Bikers for Trump organization and talks about it all the time. This is the american spirit, the true american spirit happening all over this country that's not getting reported but us real Americans know what is happening.

[RogeRio]

The especialist Allan Lichtman, a historian from American University knowed by "Prediction Professor", since 1984 hits all US president elections.

He also predicted that Trump might be impeached during his term because of difficult relationship with Republican party leaders, and because Trump is very careless about laws enforcement.

after Reagan (1981-1989) and George H.W.Bush (1989-1993), Clinton (dem), George W.Bush (rep), Obama (dem), the two parties alternated in power for two consecutive terms, and Lichtman already has predicted that Republicans will stay in power in 2020 elections.

pehaps worth to see how the Professor do these analyzes, with the 13 Keys to the White House.

I think Trump have all the advantages .. we'll see !!

[enigma3]

If the Democratic party nominates Elizabeth Warren or any other socialist, Trump will win in a landslide. And that is my prediction. For a Democrat to win, their candidate must appeal to independent voters. A socialist turns off independent voters. It is hard to believe the Dems are being led down their particular road to perdition - by themselves.

I fully agree with Bill Ryan in that the concern is for after the election. It is taking a long time to drain the swamp. It may very well take all 8 years of a Trump presidency to make a big dent in that undertaking. The rats are pushing back hard.

When I observe Trump I always think of the team behind him. 10 people. 7 military and 3 civilians, one of whom is the President. These people are trying to take down the deep state. In the USA that begins with the CIA. They are trying to do what JFK tried and failed to do. Thankfully, they have the support of the NSA and others. The NSA is a huge key.

Also, our daughter lives in Jersey City and works in Manhattan. She is imbued with the typical New York City holier than thou mindset whereby most city dwellers view Trump as a great pretender, a charlatan and a jerk. Nothing more. The books that will be written on the Trump presidency will be epic. That man saved the US?? Really?? But you kid.

We live in an interesting time. So much happening. I only hope we come through it all and can smile after another ten years.

[Ratszinger]

Things will build to a peak and just when it looks like Trump has lost he'll bring the hammer down on all of them that haven't been knocked down and out by the time it happens. Shep Smith, next Jeff Zucker, probably Zuckerberg soon after and Oct is only half way over! WE GOT MORE SURPISES TO COME! Trump in a landslide is my prediction because I am noting that even hard core dems in my own family are noticing things don't add up when the democrats speak. If my mom notices in the back hills of WV they all do.

[scanner]

Trump will win. Not because he's good at it, but because he tells the people what they want to hear. Just like our dear beloved BOJO .

[Lyran.Sun]

Very likely Trump will have his 2nd term. Just look at the amount of his twitter, facebook & instagram followers. Its a popularity contest. Presidents have to be the star of the show nowadays. But I would like to see Andrew Yang make it to the late stages to debate Trump, it would be freakin interesting. The rest of the other dem candiates are goners, very obvious to many paying attention.

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by scanner (here)
Trump will win. Not because he's good at it, but because he tells the people what they want to hear. Just like our dear beloved BOJO .

"he tells the people what they want to hear" ... that goes with everybody same for you and me ... and to be 100% correct : Trump says things MOST never dare to say "because of the consequences" they call it "political suicide" but he did it anyway. Then he was viciously misrepresented by lame-stream media non-stop daring to expose/attack the status-quo.

The quote: "he tells the people what they want to hear" is a NO BRAINER ... it can also be used as a perfect excuse NOT to consider nor to really listen what he has accomplished! ... Then after doing that, (not listening) claiming "he has nothing accomplished" ... There 100s of lame excuses people use not to listen nor to consider if your mind is already made up.

[thepainterdoug]

My opinion/ people need to understand the times we live and who they are up against. For those who hate Trump, you need to understand it is we the people, the people that love reality TV, the people that are enamored with celebrity, the people who love jersey housewives , honey boo boo, mob housewives , and all the in your face mean spirited cooking shows etc. We are the people that support this on TV , or these shows would cease to exist. And mr Trump is schooled in this. He understands this. I said months back in a post, I am neither a Trump lover or hater, but a Trump observer. Its unprecedented , and a true phenomena . As a little kid, I grew up on professional wrestling and was beyond shocked as the ref didn't see the cheating, the deception by the wrestlers and their managers. It was a riot and we couldn't get enough as we screamed at the TV. Trump worked with Vince McMahon from Pro Wrestling and knows the ropes. This is why he is shocking and chooses to be a liar and unpredictable. Its an act !! And thru it, there just might be a trojan horse of truth for us all. Because the rest of it, these 2 parties, are a more deceptive act as well. TRUMP SLAPS VINCE MCMAHON! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfuPTEKlaC4

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
My opinion/ people need to understand the times we live and who they are up against. For those who hate Trump, you need to understand it is we the people, the people that love reality TV, the people that are enamored with celebrity, the people who love jersey housewives , honey boo boo, mob housewives , and all the in your face mean spirited cooking shows etc. We are the people that support this on TV , or these shows would cease to exist. And mr Trump is schooled in this. He understands this. I said months back in a post, I am neither a Trump lover or hater, but a Trump observer. Its unprecedented , and a true phenomena . As a little kid, I grew up on professional wrestling and was beyond shocked as the ref didn't see the cheating, the deception by the wrestlers and their managers. It was a riot and we couldn't get enough as we screamed at the TV. Trump worked with Vince McMahon from Pro Wrestling and knows the ropes. This is why he is shocking and chooses to be a liar and unpredictable. Its an act !! And thru it, there just might be a trojan horse of truth for us all. Because the rest of it, these 2 parties, are a more deceptive act as well. TRUMP SLAPS VINCE MCMAHON! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfuPTEKlaC4

Satire at its best! All show btw, some think it is real lol

[East Sun]

I think it has already been decided as other elections have been. Trump again I
am fairly sure will win again. Win may be the word or not.
He would be my choice anyway.

[mijatoca]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'm happy to kick the ball to get it moving.

I think Trump will be re-elected. But my concern would be what happens to the country after that. Not because of him, but because of his psychopathic opposition, and not just in Washington.

Bill, can you give me some examples of "psychopathic" opposition you foresee if Trump is re-elected? The last three years of this clown has been pretty grim. I used envy Americans and the US when I was young. Since the 80's it's been in decline in my opinion and this administration in particular has lowered the bar to dirt level.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by mijatoca (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'm happy to kick the ball to get it moving.

I think Trump will be re-elected. But my concern would be what happens to the country after that. Not because of him, but because of his psychopathic opposition, and not just in Washington.

Bill, can you give me some examples of "psychopathic" opposition you foresee if Trump is re-elected? The last three years of this clown has been pretty grim. I used envy Americans and the US when I was young. Since the 80's it's been in decline in my opinion and this administration in particular has lowered the bar to dirt level.

Here's one example:

• Project Veritas: 'CNN Insider Blowing the Whistle on his Own Network'

But I really don't want to get into a political debate about Trump. I was supporting the interesting thread by getting the ball rolling.

[mijatoca]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by mijatoca (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'm happy to kick the ball to get it moving.

I think Trump will be re-elected. But my concern would be what happens to the country after that. Not because of him, but because of his psychopathic opposition, and not just in Washington.

Bill, can you give me some examples of "psychopathic" opposition you foresee if Trump is re-elected? The last three years of this clown has been pretty grim. I used envy Americans and the US when I was young. Since the 80's it's been in decline in my opinion and this administration in particular has lowered the bar to dirt level.

Here's one example:

• Project Veritas: 'CNN Insider Blowing the Whistle on his Own Network'

But I really don't want to get into a political debate about Trump. I was supporting the interesting thread by getting the ball rolling.

Ok, let's leave politics out of this. You are using a video of James O’Keefe’ to re-enforce your point? You might as well have said I read it in the National Enquirer, This guy was charged with a felony. From Wiki.. "He has selectively edited videos to misrepresent the context of the conversations and the subjects' responses, creating the false impression that people said or did things they did not" "He gained national attention for his deceptively edited video recordings of workers at Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) offices in 2009, his arrest and guilty plea in 2010 for entering the federal office of then-U.S. Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) under false pretenses, and the release of misleading videos of conversations with two high-ranking, now former, NPR executives in 2011.
Sorry Bill... that's a fail
Next example please?

[thepainterdoug]

Thanks Bill I know its not easy to keep this from getting steamy, I was just curious about the Avalon group on their predictions, not necessarily a big political debate.
but it will take its course.

[mijatoca]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Thanks Bill I know its not easy to keep this from getting steamy, I was just curious about the Avalon group on their predictions, not necessarily a big political debate.
but it will take its course.

I am not a sh#t disturber. Sorry Bill if it comes off that way. My frustration comes from what I think members and viewers of alternative news outlets like this should be more ca-joined with my political views (which are Liberal generally) but it does not appear to be the case. It genuinely sparks my curiosity.
This site isn't the only one I have seen the same thing manifest. I am Hijacking.. sorry. And sorry again Bill.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by mijatoca (here)
I am Hijacking.. sorry. And sorry again Bill.

That's okay!

But I'll step out of the thread personally... clashes of US political opinion have done some damage to the Avalon community in the last year, and no-one wins.

Politics was never Avalon's prime purpose. And especially US partisan politics: everyone please remember that the majority of Avalonians are not Americans!