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    Default Marion Bradley, author of Mists of Avalon...and pedophile

    The world of science fiction and fantasy is in shock, following news that the daughter of the bestselling late fantasy author Marion Zimmer Bradley has accused her mother of abusing her as a child.

    Authors such as John Scalzi, G Willow Wilson and Jim Hines have reacted to the allegations against a woman who had been regarded a pillar of the SFF community with horror. The writer Janni Lee Simner has announced she will be donating her earnings from a story set in a fictional world created by Bradley to an anti-abuse charity

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...-accuses-abuse

    Posting this in case anybody missed it.

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    Default Re: Marion Bradley, author of Mists of Avalon...and pedophile

    Kind of weird to have both parents rabid pedophiles. I wonder if they were in some kind of secret society.

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    Default Re: Marion Bradley, author of Mists of Avalon...and pedophile

    I am not familiar with The Mists Of Avalon BUT I am starting to notice a theme...

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    Default Re: Marion Bradley, author of Mists of Avalon...and pedophile

    Star,

    The Mists of Avalon was hugely popular many years ago. And yes, there is a theme here and I don't quite get why. But any conjecture about the internal workings of the minds of hardcore SF fanatics would be helpful!

    From Jason Sanford's Blog:

    You want examples?

    As others have said, Forrest Ackerman is having his own #MeToo moment. However, Ackerman's sins went beyond harassing women to also being known for not paying and/or exploiting authors along with rumors of child porn and more.


    As Jim Hines has written, "Isaac Asimov’s proclivity for groping women was so widely known that in 1961, the chair of Chicon III wrote a letter inviting him to give a lecture on 'The Power of Posterior Pinching.' Marcus Ranum recalls confronting Asimov at a Worldcon some 30 years ago, after Asimov groped his girlfriend in an elevator.

    The convention kicked Ranum out. In their view, the true crime wasn’t Asimov’s harassment, but Ranum’s complaint about it."

    Stories are coming out about Arthur C. Clarke being a pedophile. For one story on this see Peter Troyer's essay at Vice. Until I read this essay I assumed the pedophilia allegations against Clarke were smears because he was a gay man in a time and place where that wasn't acceptable.

    Troyer's essay changed my mind and, even though he didn't name Clarke, it's obvious Clarke is the author he's referring to.
    There's also Ed Kramer, well-known SF editor and co-founder of Dragon Con who pleaded guilt to child molestation.
    And don't forget Marion Zimmer Bradley, who both sexually abused kids and allowed her husband Walter Breen to do the same. And while Bradley's conduct was unknown to most people during her lifetime, Breen's wasn't, with fandom groups like Worldcon actually debating whether to ban him for sexually abusing kids.

    And that's merely the tip of the iceberg. The genre is filled with stories about the horrific actions of fans and writers who aren't famous. For example, the first convention I attended, ConText, imploded over an inability to deal with sexual harassment issues.

    http://www.jasonsanford.com/blog/201...olden-everyone
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    Default Re: Marion Bradley, author of Mists of Avalon...and pedophile

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    Kind of weird to have both parents rabid pedophiles. I wonder if they were in some kind of secret society.
    I get the feeling that any organization that revolves around entertainment for children and young adults is going to attract a disproportionate number of pedophiles. No secret there! Magicians would be at the very top of that list too!

    Having read further on Moira Greyland.s experiences, I feel she is conflating gayness with pedophilia due to her own experience as her parents were gay AND pedophiles. In fact, her mother in particular was probably high on the psychopathy spectrum, which easily translates into insane across the board abusive sexual deviancy. It's not a gay thing. It's a severe personality disorder manifesting in all kinds of yuk.

    I will try to find quotes from Zimmer Bradley about Breeen's offences after he was tossed in jail for child molestation. His victims were apparently physically injured during the molestation, (I guess from reading between the lines.) So it was an extremely serious felony.
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    Default Re: Marion Bradley, author of Mists of Avalon...and pedophile

    I forget who it was who claimed that the CIA befriended all the top sci-fi writers from the 50s. Maybe we can lump them in with all the Country & Western stars from the 70s who Cathy O'Brien fingered as being part of the Bush/Clinton pervert cult (Kris Kristoffersen, Jimmy Buffet, Merle Haggard, Boxcar Willie, et al). Stanley Kubrick supposedly was also inducted (as depicted in Eyes Wide Shut).

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    Default Re: Marion Bradley, author of Mists of Avalon...and pedophile

    TomKat,

    I'm sure all kinds of people are involved in organized clandestine rotten behavior. I like to maintain focus on those who have indicted themselves through their own comments, who have been sent to jail, or who have been outed by their children. Hidden memories retrieved by adult children aren't reliable unless they are backed by experiences that are easily retrievable without aid of hypnosis.

    Cathy OBrian is not credible for a number of reasons,imho. Pizzagate is not a credible story either. The truth is hidden by a bodyguard of lies (and hysteria). If you want to find clandestine group connections, do a quick search for Prometheus books reading list, Csicop and James Randi's history. Much lies at the end of that rainbow.

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    TomKat,

    I'm sure all kinds of people are involved in organized clandestine rotten behavior. I like to maintain focus on those who have indicted themselves through their own comments, who have been sent to jail, or who have been outed by their children. Hidden memories retrieved by adult children aren't reliable unless they are backed by experiences that are easily retrievable without aid of hypnosis.

    Cathy OBrian is not credible for a number of reasons,imho. Pizzagate is not a credible story either. The truth is hidden by a bodyguard of lies (and hysteria). If you want to find clandestine group connections, do a quick search for Prometheus books reading list, Csicop and James Randi's history. Much lies at the end of that rainbow.

    I find Cathy O'Brien credible. She'd have been sued if she weren't. And there are a lot of others who report similar experiences.

    I don't find James Randi or Csicop credible. I'm not big on authority, and their religion is essentially an authority-worship religion. I believe their purpose is to provide a shield for the pervert cult I mentioned. I can't link Randi to it, but his sexual orientation might be a clue. Or not.

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    Default Re: Marion Bradley, author of Mists of Avalon...and pedophile

    consider also the art of deception at
    https://nowhere.news/index.php/2018/...upt-alt-media/

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    I don't find James Randi or Csicop credible. I'm not big on authority, and their religion is essentially an authority-worship religion. I believe their purpose is to provide a shield for the pervert cult I mentioned. I can't link Randi to it, but his sexual orientation might be a clue. Or not
    Tom Kat

    Neither do I TomKat. At least Randi is an overt magician, unlike the controllers who control the full left to right spectrum, behind the scenes. They employ all the same sleight of hand techniques and mass distractions to work their magic. There are many earnest and honest people who are in more minor positions of control who have little knowledge or control of the over all agenda.

    This doesn't mean I believe the unbelievable horse**** of climate change deniers, anymore than I feel that most of the solutions of the climate activists will work, in the way they think they will. All those at the apex of this magical kingdom have their own agendas and work their own sorcery....for example. It's all black arts with many lovely honest people not knowing what or who to believe.

    All of the nonsense about Killary Clinton being a ritualistic cannibal was great at distracting from her actual atrocities--the overthrow of Libya which unleashed Hell in the Middle East. That's a provable undisputed fact -- but cannibalism gained more traction, thanks to the magicians who control the right arm of the alt media.

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    Thanks for your post, Kfm27917. The link is very interesting!

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    This doesn't mean I believe the unbelievable horse**** of climate change deniers, anymore than I feel that most of the solutions of the climate activists will work, in the way they think they will.
    In winter, I've gone from the country to city in one day, and the city is a good 10 degrees warmer, due to buildings and pavement. As cities encroach on airports where most temperatures are recorded, the official temperature climbs. But most of the land is still country, and not measured. Also, the entire solar system is heating up due to solar activity. Carbon dioxide does not cause warming, but the sun does. There is no normal climate, it has always varied drastically.

    Bureaucrats want world government and government-dependent scientists overwhelmingly agree they want to continue being funded. End of story.

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    Default Re: Marion Bradley, author of Mists of Avalon...and pedophile

    TomKat,

    Airports and cities having an impact on climate is, by definition, human caused climate change. I would be surprised to find climate scientists were ignoring this feature of the dynamic. I'll grant you this though. One thing that made me perk up my antennae was how quickly governments reversed their postion on warming after YEARS of opposition to climate science.

    If you look at the centrist governments at that time, it seems they adopted a long range plan to eventually ditch oil and embrace the Nuclear industry. It appears that going off on a tangent about globalism is beside the point. We already have Anglo American globalism centered around the U.S dollar. It is able to retain its reserve status because it is backed by oil.

    If anything, reducing dependence on oil makes a multi polar world more likely, not less, imho.

    Let's get back on topic. Perverts in the science fiction genre! What could be more upbeat than that?
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    TomKat,
    Airports and cities having an impact on climate is, by definition, human caused climate change.
    Airports don't affect climate, the cities around them affect the temperature reading. And cities don't affect climate either -- next time you fly, buy a window seat. Cities are few and far between.

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