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    President Trump announced the killing of ISIS leader Baghdadi. You're probably familiar with Trump's version of his death at the end of a dead-end tunnel:

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...ed-syria-trump

    But here's the REAL story as channeled from Capt. Mark Richards:

    "Baghdadi was the junior member of a 4-person Reptoid team, the leader of the team being one of the 3 children he took with him into the tunnel to meet his fate. They were not trying to rebuild ISIS as Trump said, but in fact were constructing one side of a wormhole connecting Earth to the planet Draco. Surprised by the US team that materialized in their midst with laser weapons drawn, they retreated into a tunnel, carrying with them a mobile portal opener disguised as a suicide vest. Setting off the device transported them to their headquarters in Anaheim, CA (Disneyland), while creating an explosion to close the portal. The "canine" that followed Baghdadi into the tunnel was werewolf/actor Nicholas Cage. His only injury resulted in an inability to shapeshift back to human form. Should he not recover, for security purposes, he will be hidden in plain sight as the new Whitehouse dog." End of transmission

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    What? ...

    Nicolas cage to be the new whitehouse "dog" because he's a werewolf that got injured while trying to help the military hunt down reptoid Isis leaders that escaped through a wormhole? Forgive me for being just a little skeptical on this one ...

    I never followed Mark Richards at all, but he sounds like a kook.
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    Back on ignore for you.
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    Quote Posted by Wansen (here)
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    Wansen, this is a joke — poking fun with considerable irony at the absurdities of Mark Richards' claims.
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    He had a council know doubt one of them will be the next leader of ISIS.

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    Quote Posted by bogeyman (here)
    He had a council know doubt one of them will be the next leader of ISIS.
    ...

    Other potential leaders will go to ground knowing that they are a target. I’m pretty sure ISIS=CIA. The real story here may be ISIS/CIA vs. Trump/US Military. The military just killed a major CIA asset. Also noteworthy that Russia & Turkey were notified about the operation against ISIS/CIA, but the US congressional leadership was not. It seems to me like this is more deep state factional fighting.

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    The REAL story is hilarious. Quite early for April 1st but not complaining.
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    The rendition by a jailbird, singing for his meal - and to break the monotony of prison life. Need company? - come up with a good story...
    Forget about it

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    Well I do hear he does scriptwriting classes in the joint. I wonder what the dialogue was while cage was being transported to Disneyland as a werewolf. Woof Woof?

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    ...





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    https://www.hindustantimes.com/world...Vckr8b9YZJ.htm

    Here are the past occasions when Baghdadi was reported dead or injured:

    November 2014

    Baghdadi was named the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq, the predecessor of the IS, in May 2010. One of the first reports that he had died emerged months after he was made the “caliph” of the IS in June 2014. In November of that year, it was reported that Baghdadi had been killed in a US air strike.

    A week later, Baghdadi surfaced with an audio tape that called for “volcanoes of jihad” around the world.

    March 2015

    Baghdadi was “seriously injured” in an air strike by the US-led coalition at al-Baaj in Nineveh on March 18, 2015, leading to urgent meetings of IS leaders who believed he would not survive and even made plans to name a new leader. Reports later said he had made a slow recovery.

    A subsequent report even said Baghdadi remained incapacitated because of suspected spinal injuries some two months after the attack and that he had been secretly treated at a hideout by two doctors from Mosul.

    October 2015

    After an air strike on a convoy of senior IS commanders near Iraq’s border with Syria in October 2015, the Iraqi military had said in a statement that the attack had targeted Baghdadi’s motorcade as he travelled to Karbala. As with several other claims by the Iraqi military about targeting Baghdadi, this too turned out to be incorrect. Though other IS leaders were killed, Baghdadi was not among them.

    June 2016

    In June, there were reports in the media in several countries, including Turkey’s Yeni Safak daily and Iraq’s Al Sumariya TV network, that Baghdadi had been killed or injured when an air strike hit an IS convoy near Raqqa. This was later found to be incorrect and reports even suggested that someone had circulated a fake claim about Baghdadi’s death that was digitally altered to suggest it was issued by one of the media outlets of the IS.

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    This writer is not convinced:



    And the full article:

    Quote There are good reasons to doubt Trump’s account of his latest ‘triumph’

    By Abdel Bari Atwan

    We never knew how good an actor President Donald Trump was until his press conference on Sunday announcing that US Special Forces had killed Islamic State (ISIS or Daesh) leader Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi in Syria’s Idlib province. He basked in self-awarded triumph and behaved as though he had achieved a monumental victory, as though he had defeated the Soviet Union at the height of its power. Each and every one of his utterances and movements, even his facial gestures, were carefully calculated and pre-rehearsed.

    The information Trump provided about the operation – including how Baghdadi, “crying, whimpering and screaming”, blew himself and several of his wives and children up in an escape tunnel – may have been true. But it may not have been. If we are to believe it, we will need some concrete visual evidence. The Russians, who Trump thanked for their cooperation, denied knowing anything about the operation and expressed their doubts about whether Baghdadi had indeed been killed. The Syrians, who Trump also indicated had been cooperative, ridiculed the notion. Tracking Baghdadi is the last of their priorities right now, and in any case, the Syrian army exerts no control over Idlib. Perhaps Trump confused the Syrian government with the Syrian opposition, which would not be surprising.

    Trump is a professional liar. His statements and tweets are replete with untruths. This may be just another of his fabrications – like the purported killing of Hamza Bin-Laden, unaccompanied by any evidence or photographs – aimed at crediting him with some ‘victory’ that diverts attention from his overall failure in Syria and projects him as a hero to his electorate. And never forget his obsession with one-upping his predecessor Barack Obama. Obama killed Usama Bin-Laden, so here is Trump killing the even more dreaded ISIS chief.

    When the Americans killed Saddam Hussein’s sons Udai and Qusai, they displayed their corpses for the world’s press to see. They also ensured that video footage of their father’s hanging was leaked to the media. They placed the body of Libya’s murdered leader Muammar al-Qadhafi’s body in a refrigerated container for ‘viewing’ until the stench got too strong. So why haven’t they shown us footage of their three most prized and celebrated trophies, Usama and Hamza Bin-Laden and Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi?

    I have followed al-Qaida and ISIS closely as a journalist for a long time, and one thing they always do is issue official statements confirming the death of their commanders — if only to fulfil their religious obligation to inform the families, facilitate inheritance procedures and permit their wives to remarry if they choose.

    But unlike Bush Jr.’s administration, Obama’s and Trump’s never showed us pictures of their trophies. Their burial places are unknown. This suggests that they have something to hide, and we may not learn the truth about it for decades.

    Even if Baghdad was indeed killed, that is unlikely to have much effect on Daesh. He was more of a figurehead than a hands-on leader of the organisation, even when it had seven million people, thousands of fighters and 240,000 square kilometres of territory under its control. The destruction of his ‘Caliphate’ and the killing or capture of 13,000 of his troops certainly did not enhance his stature.

    Baghdadi had none of the charisma of his original mentor Usama Bin-Laden. He only ever made two videotaped appearances: the first when he proclaimed his Caliphate in Mosul in 2014, and the second four years later when he appealed to his followers to fight on against the Americans and their allies after its collapse.

    Baghdadi has been killed four times before, according to official US statements. On each of those occasions, the Russians correctly refuted the claim, so we are inclined to believe them this fifth time.

    Even if Baghdadi indeed met his end in the gruesome way described, that will not be the end of ISIS. The collapse of al-Qaeda led to the emergence of two even more extreme groups: ISIS and the Nusra Front. The same may happen again, given the fertile territory for a re-emergence that exists in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

    If Baghdadi’s killing is confirmed, his followers can be expected to mount revenge attacks in various parts of the world, especially the US and Western Europe. He may also be transformed into a legend, especially if the story of him killing himself to avoid capture takes hold.

    One ISIS follower I interviewed while researching my book Islamic State: The Digital Caliphate told me that if the Caliphate were destroyed, its followers would go underground, from where they could operate more freely and ferociously as they would no longer have to bear the costly burden of looking after a large civilian population. He also said that if its leader were killed, the group’s response would resemble an earthquake.

    Could this happen now, after Baghdadi’s fifth reported killing? Will the US, which many accuse of being behind the establishment of Daesh in the first place, and many credits for its eventual destruction, prove to be the engineer of its renaissance?
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    From James Perloff:

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    MEANWHILE, AT THE CIA SAFE HOUSE.


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    Duff's two cents on the subject (for what it's worth). Remember. Always try to parse the info' from the self-admitted disinfo' and misinfo'.
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    Well Trump did say he may well release some of the video footage of this op. I can't wait! Congress just could not be trusted. No surprise there. It has gone rogue. When you have the likes of The Dishonourable Lil Pencil Neck Adam Schiff as chair of the House Intelligence Committee it makes perfect sense not to risk them leaking the whole thing for political noise. Who cares how many U.S soldiers are killed right Adam? Hillary? Bengazi? Obama and Extortion 17 and a dog named Bart (fake Bin Laden raid where all soldiers involved were executed in a Chinook helo explosion in midair a few weeks after 'BL raid but before they could get back to the USA to tell the truth) They knew the truth and were not allowed to live. That is how out of control these people are.

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    There was much fear in the air, for what , for whom.

    According to today’s news releases Baghdadis Pants Were Stolen and DNA tested to prove his identity before the US raid

    The Washington Post got plenty of scorn for parting with him as “austere religious scholar”.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.u...amp/2483340001

    The rest of media called him a coward for not shooting back but killing himself and his 3 children


    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.w...outputType=amp


    Screaming and wining when they came for him


    It’s sort of vane of me trying to suggest that mentalities differ. It’s just a war. Like most human wars before and after it’s a war of brother against brother and people who do not understand each other.
    Both sides see each other as something akin to “space terrorists”.

    In civil life everyone has a job or volition and goes watching cartoons with their kids in the evening. Even the worst of terrorists seemed to do that.


    Read it’s their war full of sad stories.


    Sad stories really. Of course he was rather brave from strategical perspective. When people commit suicides it shows they’re in helpless situation with no way to defend themselves or even survive in this world without suffering lots of injustice.


    I’m far from condoning ANY acts of violence. But complete lack of empathy towards millions of people out there rings wrong bells with me.

    We show them big weapons and expect some kind of hospitality from these people is weird



    Now listen...by even minor act of justice and righteousness whole world improves. By every act of insentient violence the world descends deeper to misery.
    So if the people of Baghdad agree this has been only good for us there will be more peace now, and in future. Isn’t it so.
    But if they think this has been holy murder they will feel wounded and bleed more for it because err..mentality differs.


    There’s no religion that would justify wars, arguments and killings. It’s all about human egos. If someone stole my pants I’d definitely call Allah and discuss it before it’s too late.
    Maybe their al-Baghdadi was not a good scholar


    But, I wish him better and do not return


    Bye


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    There were 14 children in that compound, our special forces removed 11 of them to safety but the other 3 were others were led to their grave by Baggy. Why would someone of such terrorist status have 14 kids hanging around??? What a piece of work. President Trump thanked the countries of Russia, Turkey,Syria,and Iraq. What does that say about diplomacy, maybe we better start an impeachment process over this . The only ones complaining were Pelosi and her entourage why they weren't informed so then they could leak this and prepare a smear campaign thru the media on whatever happens. President Trump also called one of the US families that had their daughter kept hostage by baggy for 18 months and murdered. She was an aid worker, cute gal who was raped by Baggy, and tortured. President Trump called her parents to inform them the raid was named after her and wanted to inform them of Baggy's demise. President Trump ran his campaign on exterminating ISIS. Its refreshing to know we have a leader that follows thru these day . Nice comments HaveBlue- no US casualties and all the support our forces needed. THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!
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    Donald Trump FULL announcement ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi killed in military operation

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    There are things you don’t seem to see anymore being brought up in mostly secular if not atheistic society that build itself too on subjugation and fight.
    Victory of the Power against the Power of Majority, that is majority of minorities and minors.
    Society who tried to severe itself from its spiritual roots in order to achieve faster and faster progress, ride the power, now you’re on the top of it, the rider of the tsunami wave under your feet,
    your orders seem to be obeyed, the world dictators are your best friends.

    No matter how many of your enemies were destroyed and killed in some other country you’ve helped to turn to dust it should evoke great remorse.

    As great Lao’tze said “When good general wins in battle he better follows the funeral rites protocols instead rejoicing in it”.

    Righteous and humanitarian diplomatic protocol suggests that such statements should be announced to public with sadness and condolences to people of Syria ..



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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    President Trump announced the killing of ISIS leader Baghdadi. You're probably familiar with Trump's version of his death at the end of a dead-end tunnel:

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...ed-syria-trump

    But here's the REAL story as channeled from Capt. Mark Richards:

    "Baghdadi was the junior member of a 4-person Reptoid team, the leader of the team being one of the 3 children he took with him into the tunnel to meet his fate. They were not trying to rebuild ISIS as Trump said, but in fact were constructing one side of a wormhole connecting Earth to the planet Draco. Surprised by the US team that materialized in their midst with laser weapons drawn, they retreated into a tunnel, carrying with them a mobile portal opener disguised as a suicide vest. Setting off the device transported them to their headquarters in Anaheim, CA (Disneyland), while creating an explosion to close the portal. The "canine" that followed Baghdadi into the tunnel was werewolf/actor Nicholas Cage. His only injury resulted in an inability to shapeshift back to human form. Should he not recover, for security purposes, he will be hidden in plain sight as the new Whitehouse dog." End of transmission
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    Such creative sentiments!

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