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    Default Re: Prince Andrew to step back from public duties after 'car crash' Epstein interview

    Just to be clear, the subject of that post, "Impeachment Coup or the Fall of the House of Windsor?", first referenced here:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1324767
    ...had nothing to do with the Victoria's Secret company which sells lingerie.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    EVERYBODY should watch and read ALL of this (including the pdf, which Bill has kindly copied and pasted a couple of posts down, just so no one will miss it).
    A link to the article referenced in the vidchat:
    Prince Andrew: Victoria’s Dirtiest Secret
    FWIW, network news was reporting last night that Victoria's Secret has cancelled their annual hoopla fashion show.
    Lol - poor Victoria
    Victoria's Secret cancels annual fashion show
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Just to be clear, the subject of that post, "Impeachment Coup or the Fall of the House of Windsor?", first referenced here:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1324767
    ...had nothing to do with the Victoria's Secret company which sells lingerie.
    But Onawah, Bill's pdf directly mentions the company:
    Quote "Who is Jeffrey Epstein? After years at Bear Stearns, Epstein was picked up by Ohio billionaire Leslie Wexner, owner of Limited Brands, more widely known for its Victoria’s Secret chain of women’s scanty linge- rie emporia, and pornographic catalogues and TV ads."
    I'd read about the Wexner/Epstein connection before, and suspected that the cancellation of their big annual event possibly could possibly hold significance.
    My mind also wandered to back when Trump met with the queen and walked in front of her, which was a huge no-no. Maybe all just "coincidences."
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    Default Re: Prince Andrew to step back from public duties after 'car crash' Epstein interview

    Yes, apologies--but Victoria's Secret was not the subject of the post. It was only mentioned briefly and as an aside, which is clear if you watch the video.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Just to be clear, the subject of that post, "Impeachment Coup or the Fall of the House of Windsor?", first referenced here:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1324767
    ...had nothing to do with the Victoria's Secret company which sells lingerie.
    But Onawah, Bill's pdf directly mentions the company:
    Quote "Who is Jeffrey Epstein? After years at Bear Stearns, Epstein was picked up by Ohio billionaire Leslie Wexner, owner of Limited Brands, more widely known for its Victoria’s Secret chain of women’s scanty linge- rie emporia, and pornographic catalogues and TV ads."
    I'd read about the Wexner/Epstein connection before, and suspected that the cancellation of their big annual event possibly could possibly hold significance.
    My mind also wandered to back when Trump met with the queen and walked in front of her, which was a huge no-no. Maybe all just "coincidences."
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    You’re right, Onawah. I hadn’t watched the video, as I didn’t have time just then, but I only read Bill’s pdf, and was rather struck by that title: Prince Andrew: Victoria’s Dirtiest Secret. I think I shouldn’t have quoted your post at all, but captured that title/link from the first poster of it. Sorry - still learning here.

    But I have found the Wexner connection intriguing from the start, so guess that’s where my mind went. I suspect that the whole affair goes way beyond Epstein, but of course I have no real comprehension as to how the chess game is actually designed and played, and by whom.
    Here is an interesting article for speculation:American Empire Exposed
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    Default Re: Prince Andrew to step back from public duties after 'car crash' Epstein interview

    Quote Posted by Ayt (here)
    Here is an interesting article for speculation:American Empire Exposed
    "Interesting for speculation" is really an understatement . A staggering awful report of what has been happening in your country with dire consequences because of compromised leadership, no doubt Trump as well. He will have to work even harder to redeem himself.
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    That's better than OK, Ayt, since with the article at the link you provided: ( https://empireexposed.blogspot.com/2...n-scandal.html )
    ...you've arrived smack dab in the middle of what is one of the foremost and most central "conspiracies" that most people take years to get to, if at all.
    But it's the basis of so much else that logically follows.
    Quote Posted by Ayt (here)
    You’re right, Onawah. I hadn’t watched the video, as I didn’t have time just then, but I only read Bill’s pdf, and was rather struck by that title: Prince Andrew: Victoria’s Dirtiest Secret. I think I shouldn’t have quoted your post at all, but captured that title/link from the first poster of it. Sorry - still learning here.

    But I have found the Wexner connection intriguing from the start, so guess that’s where my mind went. I suspect that the whole affair goes way beyond Epstein, but of course I have no real comprehension as to how the chess game is actually designed and played, and by whom.
    Here is an interesting article for speculation:American Empire Exposed
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    That article (American Empire Exposed) provides ample background about how the elite's Zionist agenda has unfolded, up to Trump's recent sanctions for Israeli's settlements in Palestinian territories shows his alignment with that agenda, much as we might all wish it just weren't so.
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    That's better than OK, Ayt, since with the article at the link you provided: ( https://empireexposed.blogspot.com/2...n-scandal.html )
    ...you've arrived smack dab in the middle of what is one of the foremost and most central "conspiracies" that most people take years to get to, if at all.
    But it's the basis of so much else that logically follows.
    Quote Posted by Ayt (here)
    You’re right, Onawah. I hadn’t watched the video, as I didn’t have time just then, but I only read Bill’s pdf, and was rather struck by that title: Prince Andrew: Victoria’s Dirtiest Secret. I think I shouldn’t have quoted your post at all, but captured that title/link from the first poster of it. Sorry - still learning here.

    But I have found the Wexner connection intriguing from the start, so guess that’s where my mind went. I suspect that the whole affair goes way beyond Epstein, but of course I have no real comprehension as to how the chess game is actually designed and played, and by whom.
    Here is an interesting article for speculation:American Empire Exposed
    Last edited by onawah; 25th November 2019 at 02:47.
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    I've started a thread devoted to American Empire Exposed. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1324964
    It's as HUGE blog, very well researched, from what I've seen so far, and I think it deserves our attention.
    If it proves to be as great as the little I've seen so far, hopefully it will be added to the Avalon library, if it hasn't been already, just in case it disappears.

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    That article (American Empire Exposed) provides ample background about how the elite's Zionist agenda has unfolded, up to Trump's recent sanctions for Israeli's settlements in Palestinian territories shows his alignment with that agenda, much as we might all wish it just weren't so.
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    That's better than OK, Ayt, since with the article at the link you provided: ( https://empireexposed.blogspot.com/2...n-scandal.html )
    ...you've arrived smack dab in the middle of what is one of the foremost and most central "conspiracies" that most people take years to get to, if at all.
    But it's the basis of so much else that logically follows.
    Quote Posted by Ayt (here)
    You’re right, Onawah. I hadn’t watched the video, as I didn’t have time just then, but I only read Bill’s pdf, and was rather struck by that title: Prince Andrew: Victoria’s Dirtiest Secret. I think I shouldn’t have quoted your post at all, but captured that title/link from the first poster of it. Sorry - still learning here.

    But I have found the Wexner connection intriguing from the start, so guess that’s where my mind went. I suspect that the whole affair goes way beyond Epstein, but of course I have no real comprehension as to how the chess game is actually designed and played, and by whom.
    Here is an interesting article for speculation:American Empire Exposed
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    Jeffrey Epstein’s ex-housekeeper for his New Mexico ranch said Prince Andrew was given a beautiful young neurosurgeon to keep him company when he visited, according to an investigative podcast.

    Prince Andrew has become embroiled in controversy ever since the late alleged child sex-trafficker’s arrest in July. Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre named the Duke of York as having sex with her when she was 17 years old while he was hanging out with the disgraced millionaire. He has denied the allegations.

    https://rightwingtribune.com/2019/11...x-housekeeper/

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I've started a thread devoted to American Empire Exposed. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1324964
    It's a HUGE blog, very well researched, from what I've seen so far, and I think it deserves our attention.
    If it proves to be as great as the little I've seen so far, hopefully it will be added to the Avalon library, if it hasn't been already, just in case it disappears.
    Thanks onawah for the suggestion, and it is a good one

    Given its size (the blog) I will be selective in which chapters are stored, and, it may take a little time. Again, thanks.
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    Avalon Library update: Jeffrey_Epstein
    Link: http://avalonlibrary.net/Jeffrey_Epstein/

    In part inspired by onawah's post here, and acknowledged here this seems to be a sensible time to remind folk a little of what we've got in the library.

    The blog entry referenced by onawah is now there along with 'Victoria's Dirtiest Secret' and the [other] critical documentation for anyone wishing to research this more fully contains, at the moment, the following:

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    Prince Andrew accused of exploiting taxpayer-funded role, emails reveal
    Dec 1, 2019
    Sky News Australia

    (Royal greed knows no bounds. It was hardly a "tell-all interview that Andrew gave last week, however.)
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    News reports out of England say that the Queen’s son Prince Andrew is to be subpoenaed for his testimony in five separate US court cases involving victims of the late child-trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.

    Not even two weeks ago, the prince pulled a PR stunt in the form of a TV interview in an attempt to clear his name of any wrongdoing after being publicly accused by Virginia Robert’s Giuffre—a former teenage sex-slave of Epstein’s—of having sexual intercourse with her multiple times when she was 17.

    That interview turned out to be nothing but a disaster. Nobody, it seems, is buying the strange and weak excuses the prince put forward. Andrew’s PR manager quit in protest of him even considering doing the interview, which he knew would do nothing to help. He was right.

    Following the trainwreck interview, the Queen, at the insistence of Andrew’s brother Prince Charles, cut her once ‘favorite son’ off from his royal duties, even though officially Buckingham Palace ’emphatically’ denies Giuffre’s allegations.

    Although a picture has been released of a teen Giuffre and Prince Andrew arm-in-arm—concluded by multiple experts to be genuine—the prince denies having ever met her, saying the picture is a photograph of a photograph of a photograph, with no timestamp.


    In fact, though Andrew frequented and stayed at Epstein’s many properties numerous times over the years, he unbelievably denies knowing anything about the massive child-trafficking operations that Epstein and his ‘madam’—Andrew’s close friend for decades Ghislaine Maxwell—were running out of each property.

    Guiffre said in a recent interview that Andrew’s excuses were ‘bs’, and stated the photo in question is definitely genuine. The original, she says, is in the possession of the FBI, with a timestamp.

    She said the date on the back of the photo is 13 March 2001 – two days after she left London on [a] trip with Epstein and Ms Maxwell. Panorama also spoke to the freelance photographer Michael Thomas who first copied the picture in 2011.

    He is convinced the picture is genuine because he found it in the middle of a bundle of photos that Ms Giuffre handed him from her travels with Epstein and Ms Maxwell.

    He said: ‘It was nothing sophisticated. These were 5×7 photos that looked like they had come from Boots the chemist. They were typical teenage snaps.’

    –BBC News, 12/02/19.
    Moreover, redacted court documents show Giuffre did in fact give the FBI 20 photos, but the FEDS decided to only show 19 in the released versions, effectively covering up for the UK prince.

    David Boies, the lawyer for five of Epstein’s former child sex-slaves, told reporters, ‘one of the things that we have tried is to interview Prince Andrew and to try to get what his explanation is. He was a frequent visitor. They ought to submit to an interview. They ought to talk about it.’

    He says out of the five cases he’s representing, he is going to subpoena Andrew for each one based on the knowledge the prince likely has on Epstein and Maxwell’s deplorable operation.

    The subpoenas – court summonses to give testimony – have been prepared for all five cases and would have to be signed off by a judge once the prince was on US soil…

    The existence of subpoenas – court-backed demands for sworn testimony – makes any visit to the US by the prince vanishingly unlikely. It’s pretty extraordinary: the Queen’s second son is now effectively unable to travel to the US, unless he fancies being forced to give a deposition.

    -BBC
    Even after allegations were made public in 2009 through court documents of Maxwell’s role in Epstein’s operation—thought to be an intelligence blackmail operation against rich and powerful elites such as Bill Clinton—Prince Andrew continued a relationship with both Maxwell and Epstein.

    In 2015, when Giuffre went public with her allegations, Prince Andrew emailed Maxwell on how to handle the situation.

    In the email the prince told Ms Maxwell: “Let me know when we can talk. Got some specific questions to ask you about Virginia Roberts.”

    She replied: “Have some info. Call me when you have a moment.”

    Recent reports say even to this day, Maxwell, who is in hiding, and the prince are still in ‘constant contact.’

    [A] source told the Sun: ‘They have remained constantly in touch by phone and email. The Duke has an unswerving loyalty to Ghislaine and she is also very loyal to him.

    ‘Ghislaine will do anything to protect the Duke and the feeling is mutual. They both share the same view they have done nothing wrong.’

    DailyMail UK, 12/01/19.

    https://dcperiodical.com/2019/12/02/...l-abuse-cases/

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    Default Re: Prince Andrew to step back from public duties after 'car crash' Epstein interview

    The royal family hopes Andrew is at the cliffs of Dover when he takes a step back as I lay out here
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    Default Re: Prince Andrew to step back from public duties after 'car crash' Epstein interview

    I am wishfully thinking it would be wonderful if the "royal family" would follow Prince Andrew's step off the cliffs and disappear.
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    British intelligence had to warn Prince Andrew of Epstein's honey pot, so why did he ignore it?
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    Default Re: Prince Andrew to step back from public duties after 'car crash' Epstein interview

    This is related although not specifically about Epstein, Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, Maxwell et al, and, tied in with my post, here

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