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    Thank you, Ratszinger, for sharing the great paper you wrote about sleep and altered states. It's fun to read the various theories of philosophers, psychoanalysts and psychologists, while still focusing on the nature of altered consciousness - the basis for multiple mind control techniques and possibly all of our most bizarre experiences.

    "Whatever sleep's purpose may be, it seems that primitive societies have a better grasp of it's functions than does modern science.

    It seems that the only thing modern researchers can agree on about sleep is that it is an altered state of consciousness. " !!

    Something has happened that we look at things easily from a vantage of being at odds, which prevents us from seeing the greater picture. Humanity is so compartmentalized these days in all of our various modern disciplines, and so competitive in our respective points of authority.

    Posted by Ratszinger (here):
    "Sleep remains an unexplained necessity, and is clearly the most frequently attained altered state by consciousness. We humans for example spend a third of our lives trying to catch some z z z's. "

    posted by Rogparan (here):
    "I disagree it is unexplained."

    I may be missing the point in this, but you both seem to be correct. The mechanism, basic function and necessity of sleep are not unexplained, yet the ability to readily reproduce a somnorific state without using drugs or external components to harness sleep, and the efficacy of these in allowing people to enjoy the same depth and quality of it, is at least publicly yet-to-be accomplished. So the study of how sleep affects different individuals, as well as how it is affected by their unique chemistries, psychological states and exposure to environmental stimuli is ongoing.


    Certainly, the basics of most things are well-explained historically in the various occult/esoteric and noetic sciences, but not materially tested and proven by modern standards, with exception of recent elements in quantum and plasma physics that finally almost acknowledge a spiritual dimensionality to our existence/world. Standard sciences and occult sciences may seem contradictory, the metaphysical and physical may seem immiscible, but they really are complimentary and can be fluid with one another.


    Thank you both, Ratszinger and Rogparan, for your perspectives in this. I find them to be extremely valuable in understanding the phenomena of sleep, dreams and the altered states common to contact and abductions.

    Rog, I absolutely follow and agree with what you are saying, the biology and polarity, but reading this sentence out of context is quite disarming and funny. Most human animals would probably like to protest. It made me laugh out loud :
    "2 - animals are half vegetals .. ok ?"

    :-) It was the stress relieving, interpretationally comedic highlight after reading all...
    Last edited by Victoria; 22nd December 2019 at 15:10. Reason: calrification :-) my thoughts are slow and they trickle in after I post

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    Rog, I absolutely follow what you are saying, but this made me laugh out loud :
    "2 - animals are half vegetals .. ok ?"
    I hinted at PS (with brain death the human body becomes unconscious and lives in a vegetative mode), demonstrating that the issue of sleep is inherent in the nature of (All) living beings. Essentially, there is DNA sharing since from primordial bacterias to the most evolved beings.

    I found more one interesting thing about these "sacred animals"

    goats (ram, sheep) and bulls are used in rituals and even in sacrifices

    in many cultures they are important, even economically.

    the minotaur myth also shows a certain hybridization.

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    Rogparan,
    Oh! I didn't get to it fast enough- woke up thinking, quick! clarify! :-) I just edited before seeing your post.

    What's funny is not because everything you wrote isn't factual, it is, but because man's ego would probably prefer to be in some way superior and completely separate from plants. My silly inner child burst out laughing. But how perfect this is with Exomatrix's thread ( http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109465-Scientists-Heard-Plants-Produce-Loud-Screams-When-Damaged- ) about plants feeling pain, reacting and as I've read in other articles, communicating to one another. truly all one...all connected...all living beings...and apparently we're all hybridized.

    Thank you for that … I'd not thought of the sacrificial point of rams, bulls and goats... -_- Apparently I blocked that one out because I so severely dislike the idea of blood sacrifices... all the people, all the creatures, all the suffering and history of it ...

    (Editing again...) It's an odd subject matter for this season.

    I haven't made enough time to post the images yet, but my fiancé was showing me all of the Bull warrior, Bull god and Goat symbolism in video games and television. Symbolically, they're everywhere...as pervasive as the all seeing eye. So aside of the common historical context of herd animals and agriculture, there is this volatile component of horned beings which are deliberately being placed in things our youth are absorbed in...
    (will post later)
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