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    You want to make it about the individual, you want to focus on if one man is living what he speaks, and if he isn't? What then? Do you feel like you've won? I don't really understand your questions.

    I am a man, born into this corrupt world at this corrupt time and have myself been corrupted. This isn't about me though and I do not wish to make it about me. Making it about the individual to win points is petty and pointless. I deserve to be here just like everyone else deserves to be here. I deserve the manipulation, the lies, the deceit, all of it, just like everyone else does. Fortunately my life is full of joy and freedom and love, for the most part. I've certainly experienced my fair share of pain and suffering, I deserved all of it, and learnt my lessons.

    After everything I said, all you're concerned with is if I personally live what I preach. What difference does that make? What does that have to do with anything I said, ultimately? Why are you focusing on me? Questioning my morals and virtue. Ultimately what does that have to do with anything? You're focusing on the wrong thing, clearly. Are you looking for a way to disregard what I said because you don't like the sound of it? Your only way to do that is to try and find holes in my character? It doesn't matter about me. Focus on yourself.
    I ask you those questions because you say this:

    I find it odd that people, the new age movement just assume that they deserve paradise. Maybe you don't? Maybe you deserve the enslavement. Maybe you deserve to be experiencing duality. Maybe you deserve to feel the fear, the pain the suffering. Maybe you deserve that because you're not the impeccable, virtuous, service to others type of being that has fully burned its karma, moved out of the cycle of birth and death and does deserve that reality.

    What you are saying here, correct me if im wrong is that the people who believe in the new age movement deserve pain and suffering because they are not impeccable people. So i was just wondering if you hold yourself to the same standards. But you answered it. You do. Also i felt some judgement in it towards people who believe in the new age movement.

    Further more i asked the question because i myself am wondering about the service to self/service to others material. Because i think this is a pretty grey area. For instance i see people around me who are very very caring for others, they give there life for helping and caring for others. But they do this because it gives them meaning in there lifes, they do this because it makes themselves feel better about themselves. So it this in the core service for others or service to self?

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    I think they are waiting for the baby boomers to either die off, or be too old to care, we are the last generation with the backbone to resist the authoritarians and technocrats
    WHat a weird conclusion. The babyboom generation are the ones who let all this **** happen and play out. The younger generation are the ones who have to make the change. And if you look at the world nowadays it are especially the younger people and some idealist older ones who are making the change in the form of a huge grassroot movement.
    This younger generation is the group most affected by brainwashing and mind control. They are the malnourished, consuming rancid foods that prevent coherent thought and critical analysis. They are brain dead. 34% of this group support socialism. They absolutely do not fear the loss of free speech. This is the group with their smartphone glued to their hands and brains. They are the wasted, patiently waiting to be herded.

    Admittedly some small percentage of this age group are determined and aware. Sadly, their numbers are too small. Ten people shouting truth on the street corner does little to halt the flow of media falsehoods that reach untold millions. The grassroot movement is a blade of grass only. I pray I am wrong.
    Yep. For two decades I held out hope for humanity. It was more than hope. I was aware of what was going on here, and I saw huge, telling signs that humanity was waking up from the covert enslavement. I was so sure we'd break free of it within my life time.

    I don't see that happening anymore. The children are too far gone from what I can tell. Even the few who care fall for the brainwashing and are out on the streets protesting the wrong thing, begging for the green new deal to come in, begging for their own enslavement. I think humanity has lost this time round. The younger generations have been brainwashed too strongly. They are going to welcome and accept being plugged in to AI with open arms.

    I think it's over for us this time round, and I no longer care, humanity has allowed it, has made its choice and maybe it deserves it. I'm sure our time will come again but I don't think it'll be until the earth washes off the AI hybrid police state abomination and makes us start again.

    I think the dark has won this time. We live in duality though and I'm starting to realize none of it matters. There will never be worldwide paradise here in this dimension because that isn't what it's about. If you want that you need to do the work, improve your character and move up and out of this dimension. This place is about duality, the constant fight between the light and the dark, good and evil. Two sides of the same sacred coin of experience and learning. It is all exactly as it should be. I find it odd that people, the new age movement just assume that they deserve paradise. Maybe you don't? Maybe you deserve the enslavement. Maybe you deserve to be experiencing duality. Maybe you deserve to feel the fear, the pain the suffering. Maybe you deserve that because you're not the impeccable, virtuous, service to others type of being that has fully burned its karma, moved out of the cycle of birth and death and does deserve that reality. I don't think the average soul here on earth is worthy or deserving of that, frankly. I say **** humanity this time round. They've gone rotten and deserve everything they get.

    I'm resigned to watch the theatre show unfold, unattached.
    You, MorningFox are a very wise person. The only thing I would differ with you on is your use of the word deserve. At least in my mind "deserve" insinuates a sort of retribution. I don't think the universe operates that way. I believe we are going to get activity that matches the frequency we generate. The frequencies that we generate as a whole are giving us those frequencies back as a whole and I agree it looks like we are going on a wild ride. At some point the trauma may be enough to get more to reevaluate, but I certainly don't think there will be enough to turn this thing around.I am working on acceptance as well, however when presented with taking action I will do so if I think it is the right thing to do. I don't think there is any judgement at all in the universal intelligence, just frequencies.

    I always found that concept of living a life however you want and then going to heaven and living in bliss or ascending into bliss as totally lacking in common sense. Without the work of really looking at self and transformation heaven would turn to this kind of place in short order. It only takes a tiny bit of thinking to realize this. Is not realizing that a sort of denial or a willing acceptance to follow what someone else says is truth?
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    I think they are waiting for the baby boomers to either die off, or be too old to care, we are the last generation with the backbone to resist the authoritarians and technocrats
    WHat a weird conclusion. The babyboom generation are the ones who let all this **** happen and play out. The younger generation are the ones who have to make the change. And if you look at the world nowadays it are especially the younger people and some idealist older ones who are making the change in the form of a huge grassroot movement.
    This younger generation is the group most affected by brainwashing and mind control. They are the malnourished, consuming rancid foods that prevent coherent thought and critical analysis. They are brain dead. 34% of this group support socialism. They absolutely do not fear the loss of free speech. This is the group with their smartphone glued to their hands and brains. They are the wasted, patiently waiting to be herded.

    Admittedly some small percentage of this age group are determined and aware. Sadly, their numbers are too small. Ten people shouting truth on the street corner does little to halt the flow of media falsehoods that reach untold millions. The grassroot movement is a blade of grass only. I pray I am wrong.
    You pray? If you go and see how much **** has been done as still is in name of Jesus Christ i wont hold onto that too much if i were you.

    I live in the Netherlands and im very much into the grassroots movement. And i see everywhere people who are fed up with the lies. Today i went to a lecture about 911 in the theathre. It was almost sold out. And there were alot of young people. More young people then baby boomers. Most older people are way too dug into there beliefs with watching and believing the news they see on TV and read in the papers. The younger people hardly watch news or read papers. They are our future. Not the old white men who got us into this mess.

    And by the way your comment about Socialism tells me you are also very much into your old beliefs. Like Socialism is the devil. Kapitalism is as worse or even worse. At least Socialism is all about the together. Kapitalism is all about the competition. Not very constructive.
    What you've shared is very encouraging. It's good to know so many people are interested in world affairs.

    You're being presumptuous in thinking I pray to Jesus Christ. The word Prayer is more easily understood than saying, "Universal energy, please resonate with my feelings on _______".

    If you think the Socialist model has been successful anywhere in the world, throughout time, then you're mistaken. In what alternate world is it ok to take my money and give it to someone else without my permission?! The world is a tough place to reside. Not everyone makes it. Who are you or any Socialist to steal from me to try and make everything alright for everyone else? Some people make it and some people don't. Altruism only goes so far.

    Also, capitalism is not the problem. The problem is capitalism without a conscience or morality.
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    I'm resigned to watch the theatre show unfold, unattached.
    Well said MorningFox. I think you also understand that none of it matters in the long run. This life, as all others - past and future- are just experiences of experiments. God playing with itself. And yes, there will always be evil, stupidity, apathy, or worse. Without those things in contrast to honesty, integrity, and full awareness there would be no experience. Life playing against itself creates experience.
    The quantum field responds not to what we want; but to who we are being. Dr. Joe Dispenza

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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Quote Posted by Mypos (here)
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    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    I think they are waiting for the baby boomers to either die off, or be too old to care, we are the last generation with the backbone to resist the authoritarians and technocrats
    WHat a weird conclusion. The babyboom generation are the ones who let all this **** happen and play out. The younger generation are the ones who have to make the change. And if you look at the world nowadays it are especially the younger people and some idealist older ones who are making the change in the form of a huge grassroot movement.
    This younger generation is the group most affected by brainwashing and mind control. They are the malnourished, consuming rancid foods that prevent coherent thought and critical analysis. They are brain dead. 34% of this group support socialism. They absolutely do not fear the loss of free speech. This is the group with their smartphone glued to their hands and brains. They are the wasted, patiently waiting to be herded.

    Admittedly some small percentage of this age group are determined and aware. Sadly, their numbers are too small. Ten people shouting truth on the street corner does little to halt the flow of media falsehoods that reach untold millions. The grassroot movement is a blade of grass only. I pray I am wrong.
    You pray? If you go and see how much **** has been done as still is in name of Jesus Christ i wont hold onto that too much if i were you.

    I live in the Netherlands and im very much into the grassroots movement. And i see everywhere people who are fed up with the lies. Today i went to a lecture about 911 in the theathre. It was almost sold out. And there were alot of young people. More young people then baby boomers. Most older people are way too dug into there beliefs with watching and believing the news they see on TV and read in the papers. The younger people hardly watch news or read papers. They are our future. Not the old white men who got us into this mess.

    And by the way your comment about Socialism tells me you are also very much into your old beliefs. Like Socialism is the devil. Kapitalism is as worse or even worse. At least Socialism is all about the together. Kapitalism is all about the competition. Not very constructive.
    What you've shared is very encouraging. It's good to know so many people are interested in world affairs.

    You're being presumptuous in thinking I pray to Jesus Christ. The word Prayer is more easily understood than saying, "Universal energy, please resonate with my feelings on _______".

    If you think the Socialist model has been successful anywhere in the world, throughout time, then you're mistaken. In what alternate world is it ok to take my money and give it to someone else without my permission?! The world is a tough place to reside. Not everyone makes it. Who are you or any Socialist to steal from me to try and make everything alright for everyone else? Some people make it and some people don't. Altruism only goes so far.

    Also, capitalism is not the problem. The problem is capitalism without a conscience or morality.
    I believe paying tax is also taking someones money without someones permission and give it to someone else is it not?

    Personally i believe more in things like working together, sharing and equality then competition, caring for others and inequality. If you look at the world today the gap between rich and poor is only getting bigger. A few families who own much of the wealth. Also on another scale a small bunch of people with multiple houses, yachts and a whole lot of people who are struggling to get by every month. Most of that is made possible by the Kappitalistic system we have. And the system itselfs seduces people to dont listen to there conscience or listen to morals. Thats why psychopaths thrive in this system and reach high positions in it.

    Excuse me for the praying comment.

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    This test as shown above is chocking and horrendous like a rape of the human soul . Gxxgle has violated our privacy beyond anything imaginable and they know it ( their evil CEO Eric Schmidt even boasted about it). There is sufficient proof here to sue them and put them in bankrupcy. They should be nationalized and become a public utility service what they are in essence. They started with public aid and are using all infrastructure and social tissue of our world !

    Any lawyer group reading this here? A goldmine of a court case is waiting and better than any speculative investment.

    The Austrian activist Max Schrems has tackled Facebook successfully but I have no recent information.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/25/1...schrems-europe
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    Much of what David Icke says in the first video is correct.
    However I draw the line at the date he predicts and the connection he predicts between AI and the human brain.
    Anyone can predict something will happen in 10, 20, 30 years etc. You don't have to be clairvoyant to do so.
    But 10 years sure does sound scary. That's why he uses this time period.

    As for AI and the connection to the brain...

    First of all, I am not impressed with 'AI'.
    I've dealt with AI trying to make phone calls etc. etc. AI is stupid for the most part. AI is human programming, with all its foibles.
    But it sure does sound scary and sexy as hell !

    AI connected to the brain?
    Did you watch the interview with the decades-experienced British brain surgeon in another thread here?
    He laughs at the idea (as well as Musk). He says we still don't have a clue how most of the brain even works!!!

    What I am most concerned with is all the technology being rammed down our throats in all facets of life now in the name of 'national security'!

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    Much of what David Icke says in the first video is correct.
    However I draw the line at the date he predicts and the connection he predicts between AI and the human brain.
    Anyone can predict something will happen in 10, 20, 30 years etc. You don't have to be clairvoyant to do so.
    But 10 years sure does sound scary. That's why he uses this time period.

    As for AI and the connection to the brain...

    First of all, I am not impressed with 'AI'.
    I've dealt with AI trying to make phone calls etc. etc. AI is stupid for the most part. AI is human programming, with all its foibles.
    But it sure does sound scary and sexy as hell !

    AI connected to the brain?
    Did you watch the interview with the decades-experienced British brain surgeon in another thread here?
    He laughs at the idea (as well as Musk). He says we still don't have a clue how most of the brain even works!!!

    What I am most concerned with is all the technology being rammed down our throats in all facets of life now in the name of 'national security'!
    Sure, we don't know how most of the brain works, so they will create a.i. to map it and figure it out for it's own purpose.

    And never discount what will occur behind closed corporate doors.

    Edit to add; Japan allows human-hybrid embryo to go to term.

    How many companies will be opening places in Japan now? Or how many have already done so? Factor this in with a.i.

    Imagine the super soldier in 20 to 30 years from now.
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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Much of what David Icke says in the first video is correct.
    However I draw the line at the date he predicts and the connection he predicts between AI and the human brain.
    Anyone can predict something will happen in 10, 20, 30 years etc. You don't have to be clairvoyant to do so.
    But 10 years sure does sound scary. That's why he uses this time period.

    As for AI and the connection to the brain...

    First of all, I am not impressed with 'AI'.
    I've dealt with AI trying to make phone calls etc. etc. AI is stupid for the most part. AI is human programming, with all its foibles.
    But it sure does sound scary and sexy as hell !

    AI connected to the brain?
    Did you watch the interview with the decades-experienced British brain surgeon in another thread here?
    He laughs at the idea (as well as Musk). He says we still don't have a clue how most of the brain even works!!!

    What I am most concerned with is all the technology being rammed down our throats in all facets of life now in the name of 'national security'!
    I'm sorry but I'm not sure you quite understand. Like the brain surgeon has any idea where this technology is coming from or how it is progressing. You take the word of Elon Musk? Now I know not to take anything you say seriously

    10 years is being generous. The technology to put Google inside the human brain probably already exists, they just need to leak it slowly while getting more and more of the population hooked. They are going to put Google inside the human brain and the younger generations are going to beg for it. Icke isn't trying to scare people to get views. It's incredibly disrespectful and ignorant to suggest that. The man has sacrificed his life to try and help humanity.
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    Well said MorningFox. I think you also understand that none of it matters in the long run. This life, as all others - past and future- are just experiences of experiments. God playing with itself. And yes, there will always be evil, stupidity, apathy, or worse. Without those things in contrast to honesty, integrity, and full awareness there would be no experience. Life playing against itself creates experience.
    I have just recently watched the Netflix show about WW2 in colour, the last 2 eps were on liberating the concentration camps and the atomic explosions in Japan, there were snippets of grainy video and such and basically I no longer want to be part of any experiment like this, ok there may be some reason to experience something because theoretical knowledge wont provide the necessary whatevers but seriously can't some experiences just stay theoretical? I fear it is only going to get worse over time and technology improvements and again must ask why?

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    I'm resigned to watch the theatre show unfold, unattached.
    This life, as all others - past and future- are just experiences of experiments. God playing with itself.
    Sometimes I am reminded that humans have a word for this.

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