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    Default The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/statu...34206986293248

    America just declared war on Iran.

    We shall see if they accept.

    So much for Trump being the anti war anti imperialism candidate.

    The people who look the other way on this war mongering disgust me.

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    Quote Posted by Praxis (here)
    https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/statu...34206986293248

    America just declared war on Iran.

    We shall see if they accept.

    So much for Trump being the anti war anti imperialism candidate.

    The people who look the other way on this war mongering disgust me.
    Those who are encouraging it ─ see the followup tweets ─ disgust me even more. It's sickening.

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    Can someone explain to me what Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds Force, was doing in Iraq?
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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    Then there's this one though it's not necessarily about impeachment...

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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    I just saw this news tonight and it is very worrisome. So this was an air strike on the Iranian general in Iraq, not necessarily a war on Iran.

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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    Ok, I don't understand enough about the laws of the United States. But Obama has already been elected twice. Is it possible to be re-elected as president? Or does the election possibly refer to Michelle Obama? Ok Trump has kills Quds Commander
    from Iran. Who is one of the most dangerous people on earth. But that happened in Iraq. What was the Quds Commander doing in Iraq, why was he there?

    I don't know what to make of it. The commander was in Iraq to do what? Why and for what reason did Trump kill him? Is this the beginning of the fourth Gulf War? So what is behind it, what does Trump want to achieve with it? War against Iran? I don't know if it will be that easy.

    Or is that the first provocation and a call to war? So if one of you has more detailed information, then I ask for it.
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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    Quote Posted by Iyakum (here)
    Ok, I don't understand enough about the laws of the United States. But Obama has already been elected twice. Is it possible to be re-elected as president? Or does the election possibly refer to Michelle Obama? Ok Trump has kills Quds Commander
    from Iran. Who is one of the most dangerous people on earth. But that happened in Iraq. What was the Quds Commander doing in Iraq, why was he there?

    I don't know what to make of it. The commander was in Iraq to do what? Why and for what reason did Trump kill him? Is this the beginning of the fourth Gulf War? So what is behind it, what does Trump want to achieve with it? War against Iran? I don't know if it will be that easy.

    Or is that the first provocation and a call to war? So if one of you has more detailed information, then I ask for it.
    Hi Iyakum, this well considered Twitter thread may help clarify things for you (in hard political terms anyway)...

    https://twitter.com/RymMomtaz/status...45597223165952

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    From my view this region has been broken ever since the horrible Bush-Cheney Iraq War.

    I hated what happened then and I never cheer for war or deaths.

    I have observed in the past that many in Iran want out from under the theocracy and want many freedoms that we enjoy, but they have had to express this in private or be subjected to harsh punishments.

    So I wait to see what happens next.

    For some alternative views of the reasons for this and where this may lead..

    https://saraacarter.com/maryam-rajav...ign=social-pug

    Quote Maryam Rajavi: Qassem Soleimani was a vicious criminal, it is time to evict the mullahs from the region

    Mrs. Maryam Rajavi, the President-elect of the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), described the elimination of Qassem Soleimani and Abu Mehdi Muhandes, the head of Iraq’s suppressive Bassij force, as an irreparable blow to the clerical regime.

    She emphasized that the time had come to evict the mullahs from the region, especially from Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon, and expel the IRGC from these countries.

    In this way, Iraq, which had been delivered by the United States to the clerical regime on a silver platter, will be liberated from the yoke of the religious fascism ruling Iran.


    Qassem Soleimani was one of the most vicious criminals in Iran’s history. He was personally involved in the massacre of hundreds of thousands of people in the region and in driving millions of others from their homes. He was also the mastermind of the massacre of the Mujahedin-e Khalq (PMOI/MEK) in Camp Ashraf in Iraq, and of many other terrorist operations against the Iranian Resistance in that country, in Iran, and in other countries. With his elimination, the process of overthrowing the mullahs will be greatly expedited.

    Moreover, with the death of the criminal Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the head of Iranian regime’s proxy Bassij force in Iraq and a notorious murderer, whose crimes had been exposed by the Iranian Resistance since two decades ago, the time has come for the victory of the Iraqi people’s uprising and the liberation of Iraq from the Iranian regime’s occupation.

    Mrs. Rajavi added: While the prospects for the ruling theocracy’s overthrow is within reach, it is time for the regime’s armed forces to refrain from firing on the Iranian people, lay down their weapons and surrender. The armed forces’ patriotic personnel must join the people of Iran.

    Recalling the martyrdom of at least 1,500 children of the Iranian people and endless arrests during the November 2019 uprising, Mrs. Rajavi underscored: The international community, especially the European Union, must end the policy of appeasement and recognize the right of the Iranian people to resist and rise for freedom to replace popular sovereignty in place of the mullahs’ rule.


    https://saraacarter.com/pompeo-reite...ign=social-pug

    Quote Pompeo Reiterated U.S. Position To De-escalation With Iran After U.S. Air Strike Killed Soleimani

    The U.S. military operation Thursday that killed Qassem Soleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds Force, a U.S. designated Foreign Terrorist Organization, has “made the world a much safer place,” Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in an interview with CNN Friday morning.


    “I can assure you that Americans in the region are much safer today after the demise of Qassem Soleimani… as for the protests that you described, there’s no doubt the last vestiges of theocracy, the kleptocracy in Iran will continue to try and put down these uprisings from the people. They’ve jailed thousands, they’ve killed hundreds. It won’t surprise me if they try to continue to do that,” said Pompeo.

    He continued, “But know this, the Iranian people understand that America is a force for good in the region and I’m convinced that the support that we have provided to the people of Iran and the support that we continue to provide for the people in Iraq will work for American interests and make lives better for those people as well.”

    On Friday, Pompeo continued to reach out to counterparts throughout the world explaining the U.S. decision to strike Soleimani.

    He said on Twitter that he told Chinese Politburo Member Yang Jeichi about Soleiman’s plans to imminently threaten American lives and “I reiterated our commitment to de-escalation.”

    Soleimani was planning to carry out an imminent attack on Americans in the region. However, at the directive of President Donald Trump, the U.S. military put a stop to it by striking Soleimani, who was in a vehicle convoy near the Baghdad airport. Seven people in the convoy were killed in the U.S. airstrike.

    “General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region,” a Defense Department spokesman said late Thursday. “General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more.”

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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    Some are asking whether the New York Times writer knew of the plan and tried to warn him yesterday:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/o...-missiles.html



    some commentary at Gab

    Quote The author has some interesting credentials, including National Security Council for Obama and Council on Foreign Relations:

    Steven Simon is an analyst at the Quincy Institute, professor of the practice of international relations at Colby College and a co-author of “Our Separate Ways: The Struggle for the Future of the U.S.-Israel Alliance,” was senior director for the Middle East and North Africa on the National Security Council from 2011 to 2012 and for counterterrorism from 1995 to 1999. <--from NYT on the article page.

    Steven Simon is a Senior Fellow at the Middle East Institute based in Washington, D.C. [1] Previously, he was the Executive Director IISS-US and Corresponding Director IISS-Middle East [2] and former United States National Security Council senior director, for the Middle East and North Africa.[3] He was Hasib J. Sabbagh Senior Fellow for Middle Eastern Studies, at the Council on Foreign Relations. He was a Spring 2008 Berlin Prize Fellow. <--from Infogalactic

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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    Quote Posted by Ayt (here)
    Can someone explain to me what Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds Force, was doing in Iraq?
    Soleimani coordinated the struggle of the "Axis of the Resistance" against ISIS in Iraq and Syria, he had close ties to the PMU (Popular Mobilisation Units) in Iraq and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

    Qasim Soleimani uses a walkie-talkie at the front line during offensive operations against Islamic State militants in the town of Tal Ksaiba in Salahuddin Province, March 8, 2015. (Photo: Reuters)
    source: http://www.iraqnow.news/TopArticles/51414

    edit: more info

    Quote Earlier today a U.S. drone or helicopter killed Major General Qassim Soleimani, the famous commander of the Iranian Quds ('Jerusalem') force, while he left the airport of Baghdad where he had just arrived. He had planned to attend the funeral of the 31 Iraqi soldiers the U.S. had killed on December 29 at the Syrian-Iraqi border near Al-Qaim.

    The Quds force is the external arm of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. Soleiman was responsible for all relations between Iran and political and militant movements outside of Iran. Hajji Qassim advised the Lebanese Hisbullah during the 2006 war against Israel. His support for Iraqi groups enabled them to kick the U.S. invaders out of Iraq. He was the man responsible for, and successful in, defeating the Islamic State in iraq and Syria. In 2015 Soleimani traveled to Moscow and convinced Russia to intervene in Syria. His support for the Houthi in Yemen enabled them to withstand the Saudi attackers.
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/0...mani.html#more
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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...litary-general

    Quote Iranians And Iraqis Celebrate, Thank Trump For Airstrike That Killed Ruthless Military General

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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    The media is certainly making a big deal about the killing of a general, who was snooping around in a country other than his own, likely directing the insurgency against the US embassy. Why?

    Is this the chance the deep state was waiting for? To get an "A sum of all fears" scenario. It seems like they are setting it up that way.

    Allow, or aid an Iranian national to detonate a dirty nuke in an American city, then say to the world, if Trump hadn't been so reckless, none of this would have happened. Bank on Trump to come down hard on Iran, and say he is about to start world war 3, then push for impeachment under article 25 of the constitution, saying he is mentally unstable.

    lets hope not, but i wouldnt put it past them.
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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    I'm less concerned about how the media pundits are reacting to this news.

    What I wanted to know was how are the people inside Iran reacting.

    They have been in protests against their present regime for decades and it escalated in the last 4 - 6 years.

    I had thought that Qassem Soleimani had been behind the killing of so many protesters in Iran, and this was confirmed for me today, while reading the tweets that Iranians are sharing under this hashtag:

    #TnxPOTUS4Soleimani

    Americans are starting to wake up and share under this hashtag now, too. So scroll down to see the Iranian, Iraqi, and Syrian people's responses.

    This one is one of my favorites, made me laugh.

    https://twitter.com/Rza0098/status/1213066993630359553

    On a more serious note, I'm not ready to make up my mind in one direction or another, on this situation.

    I'm still in observer mode and gathering information.
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    No Trump DID NOT Just Start World War Three, WW3 and Franz Ferdinand Trending Over Fear Of World War:
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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    Thanks edina - tweets are arriving every 5-10 seconds to that tag.

    right above your dancing tweet:

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/TnxPOTUS4Soleimani?src=hash

    Quote I'm an Iranian

    Using Twitter through A VPN and Parody account in order to hide my identity not to be killed by the Ayatollah

    But All I put My life in danger was to

    Thank President Trump for killing the murderer of Iranian protesters.
    #TnxPOTUS4Soleimani
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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    I had thought that Qassem Soleimani had been behind the killing of so many protesters in Iran, and this was confirmed for me today, while reading the tweets that Iranians are sharing under this hashtag:

    #TnxPOTUS4Soleimani
    Nope. The Quds force is the external arm of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. Soleiman was responsible for all relations between Iran and political and militant movements outside of Iran.

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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    To AYT Post#3.

    From Jim Stone's site

    The hit on Soleimani was not a work of genius

    He was hit while traveling in a car during a publicly announced visit to Iraq to attend the funerals of 31 Iraqi soldiers the U.S. killed on Dec 29. That changes things quite a bit. That was not a legitimate intelligence based hit against an enemy operating where hit, it was instead the killing of a government official who went to attend a funeral and was going to leave the same day.

    THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OF ALL: The moment Trump approved the killing of this Iranian General, he got the approval from the shadow state to FINALLY purge Obama holdovers from his white house. That was not coincidence, Trump had this general killed as part of a deal to finally be allowed to do what all other presidents have been allowed to do on day one of their presidency. That proves he's still not in charge of even the basics.

    Iranians are not celebrating this despite what the tech left is scamming on Twitter and other social media, and the fallout could be bad. Iran can now with full "eye for an eye" legitimacy target the highest ranking U.S. officials at will. As it turns out, this general was not in the area commanding anything. He arrived on a regularly scheduled commercial flight. There was no secrecy attached to his visit. That does make a difference, because it is the same as picking off American officials with drones when they leave the air port in France or elsewhere, and Iran has lots of drones.

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    Default Re: The United States kills Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani

    Quote Posted by silvanelf (here)
    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    I had thought that Qassem Soleimani had been behind the killing of so many protesters in Iran, and this was confirmed for me today, while reading the tweets that Iranians are sharing under this hashtag:

    #TnxPOTUS4Soleimani
    Nope. The Quds force is the external arm of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. Soleiman was responsible for all relations between Iran and political and militant movements outside of Iran.
    Thanks silvanelf, I had considered that, as well.

    What tipped my thinking on the matter is how many Iranians, regular people on the street, have called him out for the deaths of protesters inside their country in their tweets.
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