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    It seems like all this fuss has been a great distraction from the Prince Andrew scandal, and as long as he stays out of the limelight, most likely Harry and Meghan's situation will keep the MSM well provided with material to keep the public's hunger for gossip satisfied.
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    I posted a couple of days ago regarding Jessica Mulroney being Meghan Markle’s handler (and MM Prince Harry’s) - today the Daily Mail had an article on Jessica which included a photo of the two together.

    Notice the ring Jessica is wearing and why would Prince Harry need a handler?

    http://https://www.dailymail.co.uk/n...e-Duchess.html
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    Royals photographer reveals insight into Harry, Meghan's departure | Today Show Australia
    Jan 9, 2020

    "Long-time Royals photographer Arthur Edwards reveals insight into Harry and Meghan's decision to step down from senior royal duties."



    (No mention made of how the Prince Andrew scandal might have factored in.)
    Thanks for this onawah: as we can see the film footage is now no longer on youtube

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    My honest opinion is that--When you get married supporting with love your spouse is the most important thing.
    Megan married Harry--the love of her life--the father of their child--she did not marry a Prince a member of the Monarchy--thats a function not Harry--its there but incidental compared to the love for each other that they obviously have.
    Its their life, their descision--nothing to do with the media or anyone else--nobody owns them.

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    Quote Posted by Clarity (here)
    I posted a couple of days ago regarding Jessica Mulroney being Meghan Markle’s handler (and MM Prince Harry’s) - today the Daily Mail had an article on Jessica which included a photo of the two together.

    Notice the ring Jessica is wearing and why would Prince Harry need a handler?

    http://https://www.dailymail.co.uk/n...e-Duchess.html
    Fixed link: Meghan Markle's closest confidante Jessica Mulroney 'tried to fix a press article' for the Duchess



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    I can certainly empathize with a young man with a new wife wanting to break away from a controlling family and establish a new life. Been there done that. However, my understanding is, as the Duke of Sussex, the Prince is one of the political leaders of said region and as such has certain responsibilities to the citizens.

    Or is this just an arbitrary title picked out of a hat and he has nothing to do with the people that live there?

    Please pardon this American's lack of knowledge.

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    Its their life, their descision--nothing to do with the media or anyone else--nobody owns them.
    I think you're absolutely right, Chris. Harry knows that Meghan is getting the same shyte job worked on her just like his mother got, before she was murdered. He obviously doesn't want that to happen and Meghan is an American and has seen that machine work on the European continent as well as the American. Their obvious calculus is that they need distance, she has already been relegated to all kinds of negative spaces. I'm interested in seeing how this plays out. I don't believe it is like ANYTHING that has happened before. This is a new story and it does signal a crack in the ranks of the Royals, but even moreso, a defensive move to protect themselves and their child from what looks to be a preconceived plan to demonize her, which will lead to even more negative outcomes in the future.

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    In my humble opinion, Prince Harry looks more like James Hewitt (Princess Diana's ex-boyfriend) than he does like Prince Charles !

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    My honest opinion is that--When you get married supporting with love your spouse is the most important thing.
    Megan married Harry--the love of her life--the father of their child--she did not marry a Prince a member of the Monarchy--thats a function not Harry--its there but incidental compared to the love for each other that they obviously have.
    Its their life, their descision--nothing to do with the media or anyone else--nobody owns them.

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    As always I respect your honest opinion Chris, but I offer this:

    If they're being wholly supported (residences, security, travel, etc.) by the British people, then in a way, they are owned by them. (Or, you can say they "own" the British people. Either way it's a very symbiotic relationship) So, I think when you own something, you are allowed to express an opinion about it.

    And she didn't just marry a "man", she most certainly married a Prince--someone with power and influence in this world. You think she would have married this guy if he was a barista in West Hollywood? Maybe a fling sure, he's not a bad looking bloke but...

    If they give up everything, all the public money being used to support them--and pay back all that has supported them--I may take this a little more seriously. But then, there's no way to verify that. I don't judge them as human beings. But you can't view them with any deeper scrutiny without seeing them in their roles. Owned/Owners. Maybe Icke can tell us which form of the verb it should be.

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    NO problem. IT wasn't actually revealing at all, having been one of the earlier interviews. The interviewee seemed to be pretty much of a Royalist, and so not inclined to let anything really very interesting slip out.
    In some of the later ones, the subject of the Prince Andrew scandal did come up, and I don't think we'll be getting the whole story unless that's factored in.
    Although that may have been just the excuse Harry needed to make his getaway.


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    Royals photographer reveals insight into Harry, Meghan's departure | Today Show Australia
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    "Long-time Royals photographer Arthur Edwards reveals insight into Harry and Meghan's decision to step down from senior royal duties."

    (No mention made of how the Prince Andrew scandal might have factored in.)
    Thanks for this onawah: as we can see the film footage is now no longer on youtube

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    A lighthearted take on the situation from a mainstream reporter (not really: it's Jonathan Pie - caution: strong language)

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    Canada's biggest newspaper says Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren't welcome there
    Yahoo News UK Ellen Manning,Yahoo News UK


    One of Canada’s biggest newspapers has suggested that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren’t welcome in the country, saying it is “not a halfway house for anyone looking to get out of Britain while remaining a royal”.

    An editorial in the Globe and Mail criticised Harry and Meghan’s decision to step back from royal duties, saying Canada shouldn’t allow them to move there.
    LONDON, ENGLAND - JANUARY 07: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex depart Canada House on January 07, 2020 in London, England. (Photo by Chris Jackson/Getty Images)
    One of Canada's biggest newspapers has suggested that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren't welcome in the country. (Chris Jackson/Getty Images)

    Meghan and Harry have said they plan to split their time between the UK and Canada as they work to forge a “progressive” new role within the Royal Family.

    But the newspaper’s editorial said it isn’t quite that simple.

    “Our royals don’t live here. They reign from a distance,” the editorial says.

    And so it begins in Canadian media ---its a distortion of facts.
    Thats what has happened in the UK
    Sensational news sells papers.

    Harry has no intention of reigning--anywhere.

    As a parallel.
    Just because you are born into a family business does not mean that you have a responsibility to be a full time member of that business.
    There are quite a few ahead of Harry in succession to the throne.
    However I do think the Sussex titles should be dispensed with.

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    Excerpt from Benjamin Fulford's report:

    "Speaking about avoiding assassination, Prince Harry of the UK has now come out publicly to say he fled to Canada to save his family from the same fate that befell his mother, Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/aselfishhun/stat...Qww0P_7WnN2Wlk

    Here is what a European royal had to say about the situation: “The whole thing is a disgrace and infuriating to us all. If the monarchy carries on like this, the people will show it the door. The matter will be managed carefully and correctly,” the source said. However, it is already certain that Prince Charles will never succeed to the throne of England, he said. The Gnostic Illuminati, who oppose bloodline rule, will for their part try to exploit this situation to overthrow the British Monarchy. Given the huge popular support in the UK for this institution, they will probably fail, but in the meantime, the tabloids will have a feast."


    From Fulfords full article here--
    https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/202...ayback-begins/
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    I cant help but think that if the British Media had been a bit less antagonistic to Meghan then there would not have been the situation we see now.
    To see it from Harry's point of view you would have to have been through what he has been through.
    There was the situation with his late mother and now the woman he loves is subject to the same hyper criticism.
    So you have a now deceased mother and new wife subject to this--is it any wonder that he wants to take Meghan out of this--they cant win at media level--happy news does not sell newspapers for long.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Canada's biggest newspaper says Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren't welcome there
    Yahoo News UK Ellen Manning,Yahoo News UK


    One of Canada’s biggest newspapers has suggested that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren’t welcome in the country, saying it is “not a halfway house for anyone looking to get out of Britain while remaining a royal”.

    An editorial in the Globe and Mail criticised Harry and Meghan’s decision to step back from royal duties, saying Canada shouldn’t allow them to move there.
    LONDON, ENGLAND - JANUARY 07: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex depart Canada House on January 07, 2020 in London, England. (Photo by Chris Jackson/Getty Images)
    One of Canada's biggest newspapers has suggested that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex aren't welcome in the country. (Chris Jackson/Getty Images)

    Meghan and Harry have said they plan to split their time between the UK and Canada as they work to forge a “progressive” new role within the Royal Family.

    But the newspaper’s editorial said it isn’t quite that simple.

    “Our royals don’t live here. They reign from a distance,” the editorial says.

    And so it begins in Canadian media ---its a distortion of facts.
    Thats what has happened in the UK
    Sensational news sells papers.

    Harry has no intention of reigning--anywhere.

    As a parallel.
    Just because you are born into a family business does not mean that you have a responsibility to be a full time member of that business.
    There are quite a few ahead of Harry in succession to the throne.
    However I do think the Sussex titles should be dispensed with.

    Chris

    I'm agreeing with pretty much all of what you've stated on this thread thus far Chris.

    That piece was written to stir controversy, as most editorial's these days are -- rants from angry right or left wing extremists usually. It's pretty common in Canada to have editorials written for no other purpose.

    I don't think the majority of Canada even thinks of the Monarch as "ruling over us from a distance" -- or "ruling over us" at all. And we'd generally see the royals coming here to live for a bit like an extended visit. "Reigning" or "ruling" wouldn't be a part of any of it, lol ...

    The real controversy here is whether Canadian taxpayers would be footing the bill for their security or not. That's the main hot topic here on the matter.

    I get that this is a bit of a "conspiracy" forum, but if you followed Harry at all, I'm surprised he even ever got married (he used to come to Canada to party, and even had a fling with one of the patron's from "Cowboy's" - a night club in Calgary (where I live)). He never seemed to want to take his role of being a "royal" very seriously at all -- ever.

    Considering his personality, I'm so not surprised he wants to step down from "royal duties" and get away from it al with his new wife - he never seemed remotely interested in the fact that he was a royal to begin with. So these theories, that's he'd been replaced with a robot/clone, or that this is planned to distract from such and such ... seem pretty far fetched, when his desire to get away from the royals and move to Canada with his Canadian wife would line up 100% with everything that has happened in the past, is an extremely reasonable explanation.

    The fact that media may be instructed to emphasize this and downplay Prince Andrew is likely, but easily could have nothing to do with the decision to move here or step down from royal duties.
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    I was a regular watcher of "Suits" and I recon the real nature of Meghan cam out in that series.
    She is exactly what she seems to be--a lady who cares greatly what happens to people and is prepared to do something about it.
    Her mother has kept a discrete silence--wish the same could be said for Sister and Father, he is prepared to testify against his daughter in a civil action brought against a Newspaper, what Father does that?
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    I didn't see where Harry said that on the Twitter page. He did say “I will not be bullied into playing a game that killed my mum” , which is not the same thing as "he fled to Canada to save his family from the same fate that befell his mother, Princess Diana".
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    I wouldn't trust anything that Fulford says. He is not a credible source.
    Quote Posted by frankstien (here)
    Excerpt from Benjamin Fulford's report:

    "Speaking about avoiding assassination, Prince Harry of the UK has now come out publicly to say he fled to Canada to save his family from the same fate that befell his mother, Princess Diana.

    https://twitter.com/aselfishhun/stat...Qww0P_7WnN2Wlk

    From Fulfords full article here--
    https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/202...ayback-begins/
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    Meghan Markle and Prince Harry to lose their HRH titles after new deal thrashed out by Palace
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    Meghan Markle and Prince Harry will lose their HRH titles after stepping back as senior members of the Royal Family, Buckingham Palace have announced.

    This means they can no longer formally represent the Queen. It is not yet clear if they will be able to keep their SussexRoyal online branding or will attend formal family events such as Trooping the Colour.

    The decision was reached on Saturday after Palace aides spent days thrashing out a new arrangement for the young couple.

    The Queen said in a statement: "Following many months of conversations and more recent discussions, I am pleased that together we have found a constructive and supportive way forward for my grandson and his family.

    "Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved members of my family.

    "I recognise the challenges they have experienced as a result of intense scrutiny over the last two years and support their wish for a more independent life.

    "I want to thank them for all their dedicated work across this country, the Commonwealth and beyond, and am particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family.

    "It is my whole family’s hope that today’s agreement allows them to start building a happy and peaceful new life."

    Buckingham Palace said in a statement: "The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are grateful to Her Majesty and the Royal Family for their ongoing support as they embark on the next chapter of their lives.

    "As agreed in this new arrangement, they understand that they are required to step back from Royal duties, including official military appointments.

    "They will no longer receive public funds for Royal duties. With The Queen’s blessing, the Sussexes will continue to maintain their private patronages and associations.

    "While they can no longer formally represent The Queen, the Sussexes have made clear that everything they do will continue to uphold the values of Her Majesty.

    "The Sussexes will not use their HRH titles as they are no longer working members of the Royal Family.

    "The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have shared their wish to repay Sovereign Grant expenditure for the refurbishment of Frogmore Cottage, which will remain their UK family home. Buckingham Palace does not comment on the details of security arrangements.

    "There are well established independent processes to determine the need for publiclyfunded security. This new model will take effect in the Spring of 2020."

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    I bet they are relieved--now atleast they can be a youngmarried couple with baby Archie.
    They have spared him a "Royal life" hopefully
    Congratulations to them.
    Chris

    Full statement from the Queen here

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/harry-megh...185637759.html


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