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    Hello fellow avalonians
    Found this article somewhere and thought about sharing it with you guys

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1002/jmv.25707

    Stay well

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    Quote Posted by frankstien (here)
    Guest - John Rappoport interviewed about the CoronaVirus
    I must retract my previous remark that Rappoport has it wrong because deadly pneumonia is preceded by a virus from influenza. I am sorry for that but it is important to know the difference between pathogens.
    It is explained in Wikipedia that there exist bacterial pneumonia and viral pneumonia. Even in this article there are doubts about the causes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia#Bacteria

    Rappoport in this interview does not go into the speculation that this corona virus can be a bio weapon. With his very extensive knowledge he goes into explaining how dangerous experiments are going on with developing vaccines.
    He also describes well the different toxic pollutions in China that make people deadly sick. But he is not bringing up the 5G hazard. He stays in his field of expertise. This is not enough any longer.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Side note: Ireland was to host a Rugby match this weekend, Ireland vs Italy, as part of the Six Nations tournament.

    The match has been cancelled. The Irish minister for health, Simon Harris has been quoted as saying "the very clear view of the public health emergency team was that this game should not go ahead and that it would constitute a significant risk, because a very large number of people will be travelling from what is now an effected area".

    Also, and although I can't confirm anything related to the following in the Irish media, people travelling from Italy to Ireland have been refused entry to Ireland and have been returned to Italy.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    As one of the many that H1N1 left with a 'Post Viral Syndrome' I would urge you all to take some time over the weeks to come to practice 'relaxation techniques'?

    As we saw back in the 80's (when it was called 'Yuppie flu') the syndrome seems to strike those with high stress/high anxiety lives.

    My take is that the 'fight or flight response is firmly locked 'On' in such people (my stresses were the 24/7 care of my seriously disabled son) so the immune system is switched 'Off' leaving you open to 'complications' from viruses that trigger the autoimmune cascade of symptoms?

    I'm not being a 'killjoy' and telling you to lay off the hooch (if you self medicate with such?) but to get your head into as good a space as you can prior to exposure...... you DO NOT want to end up like me once you've survived the virus!!!

    Be well people!

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Brazil has the first confirmed case of the coronavirus COVID-19.

    https://www.correiobraziliense.com.b...o-brasil.shtml

    It's a 61 yo man, brazilian, who came back from Italy, Lombardia, on 02/21/2020, where he had been traveling for work.

    The test on coronavirus was done twice and is confirmed.

    The other passengers of the flight he was back to Brazil are going to be contacted to receive instructions on how to act.

    There are other 3 suspected cases, all in the city of São Paulo.

    The Ministry of Health will divulge today 02/26/2020 the plan on how they intend to avoid the dissemination of the virus in Brazil.
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    Quote Posted by Inaiá (here)
    Brazil has the first confirmed case of the coronavirus COVID-19.

    https://www.correiobraziliense.com.b...o-brasil.shtml

    It's a 61 yo man, brazilian, who came back from Italy, Lombardia, on 02/21/2020, where he had been traviling for work.

    The test on coronavirus was done twice and is confirmed.

    The other passengers of the flight he was back to Brazil are going to be contacted to receive instructions on how to act.

    There are other 3 suspected cases, all in the city of São Paulo.

    The Ministry of Health will divulge today 02/26/2020 the plan on how they intend to avoid the dissemination of the virus in Brazil.
    Yes, thanks. São Paulo has a large Chinese population, as well. I have a friend who comes from São Paulo, and he told me 3 weeks ago it was certain the virus would spread there.

    What this means is that it's now in South America, and within a month or less it'll be in every country there whether reported and tested or not. I've just warned Mara the to brace herself to possibly be on dry doggie rations for a while.

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    Hello fellow avalonians
    Found this article somewhere and thought about sharing it with you guys

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1002/jmv.25707

    Stay well
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    Check out nutritional recommendations and rationale for use at the beginning of document. Great find, carnavas!

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Brazil and Greece confirm first cases

    Greece has reported its first case and France the first death of one of its own nationals, with a 60-year-old man confirmed to have died in Paris overnight.

    another approach about Italy

    all seven dead in Italy diagnosed with the new coronavirus were elderly and in poor health.

    doctors heard by the Italian press say that it is more correct to say the seven people died with Covid-19, than by the Covid-19.

    the general number of cases may be related to the fact that Italy is doing more tests on the population than other European countries. Ten times more than France, for example.

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    World Health Organization Corruption & Their Marxist, Robert Mugabe-Supporting Chief Exposed:
    Jeez. Do watch this. It's only 6 minutes.

    This clown (Tedros) always felt way way wrong, but I never knew the history, assuming all this is accurate. Get him outta there. I hope every news outlet, of any political persuasion, starts to apply strong public pressure.

    This is a perfect storm, in so many ways.

    Facebook and Google have been strongly recommending the WHO's statements, whatever they are, penalizing or even censoring other informed comment. Barely anything at all is working right to protect regular citizens from harm.

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    Quote Posted by carnavas (here)
    Hello fellow avalonians
    Found this article somewhere and thought about sharing it with you guys

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1002/jmv.25707

    Stay well
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    Check out nutritional recommendations and rationale for use at the beginning of document. Great find, carnavas!
    Yes, it is , along with your excellent tip in your post #1013 and the Richard Hunt article which lays out in a very clear way what coronaviruses are and how they are structured.

    Both these now in the library as well

    http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus..._jmv.25707.pdf

    http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus...f_Medicine.pdf
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    It's now in 43 countries, new cases now in Algeria (Africa) and Brazil (South America).

    It's now a pandemic by any definition, pretty much uncontained despite whatever efforts different countries have made.

    Iran, astonishingly, has refused to implement quarantines. That may not end well! And the strains active in Italy and Iran, for whatever reasons, seem to be more infectious than in other locations earlier. Speculations about mutation may start to be voiced in the mainstream soon.

    So I'd expect the mainstream, in one form or another, to widely agree this is a pandemic, and announce it pretty much formally within 24-36 hours — whatever the WHO says.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    The swine flu scare in 2009 turned out to be a damp squib but it was a huge money maker for the pharmaceutical companies with them being able to dump huge amounts of tamiflu on nation states for huge profits.

    Following the money trail for this year's coronvid19 damp squib, the cash cow of nation states pays out on the home testing kits - now being rolled out in countries worldwide. . Easy money without having to produce a cure. Not cost effective for citizens but very profitable for the pharmaceutical industry.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...effective/amp/

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    Brazil has confirmed the first coronavirus case in Latin America and will announce it shortly at a press conference, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter.

    A 61-year-old Brazilian who recently traveled to Northern Italy for work tested positive in a preliminary test, the Health Ministry said in a statement late Tuesday evening. A second round of tests have confirmed the diagnosis, said the person, who isn’t authorized to speak publicly ahead of the press conference.


    I think Bill is correct, the virus now fits the definition of a pandemic.

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    World Health Organization Corruption & Their Marxist, Robert Mugabe-Supporting Chief Exposed:
    Jeez. Do watch this. It's only 6 minutes.

    This clown (Tedros) always felt way way wrong, but I never knew the history, assuming all this is accurate. Get him outta there. I hope every news outlet, of any political persuasion, starts to apply strong public pressure.

    This is a perfect storm, in so many ways.

    Facebook and Google have been strongly recommending the WHO's statements, whatever they are, penalizing or even censoring other informed comment. Barely anything at all is working right to protect regular citizens from harm.
    The depth of the corruption is nauseating. Then you have someone like Chris Martenson that deserves a top prize for journalism at it's best being penalized for what he is doing. You are so right, this is the perfect storm and most of us are on tiny row boats and will have no access to the luxury liner that awaits those that have allowed all of this to happen..

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    Quote Posted by Franny (here)
    Today From India Trump says it's very much under control in the US.

    Very much under control in the US

    New Delhi: US President Donald Trump on Tuesday said that the coronavirus is "very much under control" in the United States.

    "The coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries," Trump, who is on a state visit to India, posted on Twitter.



    Quote From a follower on twitter: Thank you for keeping us safe!
    If we had Hillary right now we would all be sick!
    Trump praised the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) for their massive and "smart" efforts in preventing the novel coronavirus outbreak, which originated in the Chinese city of Wuhan, from becoming a global menace.

    "CDC and World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!" Trump said.

    This tweet comes at the backdrop of Monday's 1,000 points point fall of US stocks as novel coronavirus cases were documented by health officials. Stocks closed with the Dow Jones Industrial Average index down by 1,031.61, the S&P 500 index down by 111.86 and the Nasdaq Composite index down by 355.31 points. Meanwhile, The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Monday there were 53 confirmed cases of the virus in the US.
    I am not writing this with the intent of bashing Trump. Trump is a narcissist and as I have said before, that can have benefits in a leadership role. The guys resiliency is unmatched. As long as things are making him look good he will be golden, but what is going to happen when TSHTF? Trump sees the US as an extension of his greatness and when you challenge a narcissist they can become erratic.

    Trump seems to have NO understanding that this is about a virus. You can't buy a virus off, you can't gain its favor, it will not be impressed even if it enters MAGA country. It simply wants to replicate and it will do everything it can to do that. It possesses a pure unwavering goal. In Trumps world he can always cajole, throw money at or make deals to obtain an outcome. Not this time. It will be interesting to watch him butt heads with this thing.

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    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    I am not writing this with the intent of bashing Trump. Trump is a narcissist and as I have said before, that can have benefits in a leadership role. The guys resiliency is unmatched. As long as things are making him look good he will be golden, but what is going to happen when TSHTF? Trump sees the US as an extension of his greatness and when you challenge a narcissist they can become erratic.

    Trump seems to have NO understanding that this is about a virus. You can't buy a virus off, you can't gain its favor, it will not be impressed even if it enters MAGA country. It simply wants to replicate and it will do everything it can to do that. It possesses a pure unwavering goal. In Trumps world he can always cajole, throw money at or make deals to obtain an outcome. Not this time. It will be interesting to watch him butt heads with this thing.
    I agree with all that, 100%. I'm not a Trump basher either, but based on everything I believe I know, he's way, way off the mark here.

    And he's also missing a real window of opportunity to be an inspiring, respected and transparent leader. He could be a populist savior here, but he's missing the boat. That's the weakness of having come from a corporate business background.

    My sense is that while everything you say about him is correct (you can't influence or negotiate with a virus!), he's also being given bad advice from those around him.

    He has his eyes on the election later this year — of course — and so do all his advisers, whose jobs depend on it. So he's being told it's all about the economy — but that may be very flawed when it comes to the hearts and minds of the nation when they start worrying about their children at school and at Church.

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    updating news

    study : Coronavirus screening 'missing more than half of cases'

    Global screening efforts to prevent the rapid spread of coronavirus are likely to fail, according to new research warning that even best-case screenings of air travellers will miss more than half of infected people.

    "If someone doesn't realise they have been exposed, and doesn't yet show symptoms, then they are fundamentally undetectable," Katelyn Gostic, a postdoctoral scholar at the University of Chicago and lead author told AFP.

    Upon screening, travellers fall into one of four categories: symptomatic but unaware of exposure; aware but asymptomatic; symptomatic and aware; and neither symptomatic nor aware.

    "Substantial fractions of the people who have tested positive in quarantine... did not show any detectable symptoms at the time of diagnosis", said Gostic.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    A good, clear, calm summary from Ethan Galstad, whom I'm liking and respecting. Like Chris Martenson, he's not in any way evoking fear or panic. He's merely advising proactive informed awareness, and a bit of simple planning ahead.

    Like: Hey, just make sure you have everything your family may need, just in case. This thing can come down on your neighborhood literally overnight. Don't wait till there are half mile lines at Costco, with fights breaking out in the supermarket. To pick up a bunch of supplies you may need is easy and inexpensive.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    This clown (Tedros) always felt way way wrong, but I never knew the history, assuming all this is accurate. Get him outta there. I hope every news outlet, of any political persuasion, starts to apply strong public pressure.

    This is a perfect storm, in so many ways.

    Facebook and Google have been strongly recommending the WHO's statements, whatever they are, penalizing or even censoring other informed comment. Barely anything at all is working right to protect regular citizens from harm.

    The statements of the WHO affect so much. Wondering why they drag their feet to declare this an obvious pandemic ? It has huge importance for the insurance industry. Not to drag you in long reading but hereby some articles that show the interests in play.

    "The Risk of Pandemics to the Insurance Industry"

    https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/p...ncing-facility

    https://content.naic.org/cipr_topics..._pandemics.htm
    Last edited by Philippe; 26th February 2020 at 16:55.

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