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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Don't know if this has been posted here on this thread yet - a friend just sent it to me today. It's an interview with the creator of the US Bioweapons Act who says he believes this new coronavirus is a bioweapon.

    Taken from a website called thevaccinereaction.org. I can't find the video on youtube, though it is imbedded in their website, as I've linked here.

    https://thevaccinereaction.org/?s=cr...+us+bioweapons

    Maybe they will delete it soon? Might be good if someone can copy it for reference?

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Here is the video on youtube:


    Quote Posted by ErtheVessel (here)
    Don't know if this has been posted here on this thread yet - a friend just sent it to me today. It's an interview with the creator of the US Bioweapons Act who says he believes this new coronavirus is a bioweapon.

    Taken from a website called thevaccinereaction.org. I can't find the video on youtube, though it is imbedded in their website, as I've linked here.

    https://thevaccinereaction.org/?s=cr...+us+bioweapons

    Maybe they will delete it soon? Might be good if someone can copy it for reference?
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    So apparently the WHO conducted an "exercise" simulating what might happen if a "new" highly contagious virus, let's just say maybe a "coronavirus" outbreak erupted in an animal market area, and quickly began to spread from there ... in October.


    I have not been following this thread so maybe it has been discussed here already.


    Is this true? Was this an actual WHO "exercise" simulating almost everything exactly that has occurred in this outbreak, but just before this outbreak occurred? I didn't watch the whole video but I though that was odd ... anyone have more info on this? Or a brief summary for me? (or a link to a post if this discussion already exists here?)

    The video is here: and appears to have been uploaded to YouTube on Nov 9th ... the parallels are a bit extreme, but again I haven't spent much time on this. There is also an hour long full version of this "exercise" on the WHO YouTube channel ...

    At the very least, this was a pretty accurate prediction ... or is it part of a "plan" (perhaps a pre-emptive "see, we were already expecting a transition of coronavirus from animals to humans - so its from animals, not a bioweapon") ... or are we seeing a manifestation of some sort?

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    If Iran has such large numbers of infections, does that indicate it is a deployed weapon?


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I swear I saw that the US had 36 maybe 37 cases earlier today... What happened? Did I see that wrong? Even with the recovered cases, it doesn't add up. Chris points out it doesn't add up for him, too, but he didn't say anything about 30-something cases, either.

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    Quote Posted by Sammy (here)
    Quote Posted by Philippe (here)
    Sammy,
    About an interview of a "Chinese intelligence officer" (Earlier on it was presented as his report and wherin he assured why he could write in perfect english ;-) )

    Bill correctly pointed out in an earlier post that no Chinese intelligence officer would ever write like that .

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1336663

    I had already wondered how somebody who went through extreme terror and still in great danger could write such a precisely formulated report.

    Disinformation is going on in full swing and from different sides.
    Yes, disinformation is going on in full swing and from different sides. That is why I don't believe anything I read (or hear/watch) regarding this virus (and many other subjects of global interest). But also, if the conspiracy theory put forth in the article I posted turned out to be true, I wouldn't be surprised. And I say this based on what I have experienced first hand with regard to this lovely planet as well as all that has been written about, then revised, then revised again and... depending on the source, twisted in all sorts of directions.

    Few (if any) are completely immune from the vulnerability to "believe" something that later, turns out not to be true... even some of the more savvy folks that are staff, members or readers of this forum.
    If it was a nerve toxin accidently dropped ( how do you accidently drop 21 vials?) in an open market in Wuhan how do you explain the spread to all the other countries? That theory sort of defies common sense.
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    If Iran has such large numbers of infections, does that indicate it is a deployed weapon?

    I did not research the close relationship between China and Iran before speculating. If Iran has such high numbers, it means at least the infection started some time ago.

    Belt & Road Initiative expands China-Iran cooperation
    By Li Tianyang | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2019-01-25


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    On zero hedge there's a statement listed in the article that lists new York Times said u.s. had 35 new cases. On that video from Lisa havens she states 7000 in the u.s. under voluntary quarantine. She also state 300of those in Michigan. So thats the first I had heard that number. But yesterday my buddy stopped by and said that he knows a guy that worked at one of the auto plants. A few weeks ago an engineer from China was walking thru the plant and coughing a lot. My buddy said the guy he knows ended up i n the hospital with a bad respitory issue,had to be on a ventilator for a time too. HE made it out of the hospital but sure goes along with the now 300 in Michigan. I cannot confirm or verify this except from my friend. And so it appears the scales are beginning to tip from isolated ,I hope not but none of this looks promising. That one lady who was a pandemic specialist said don't get your hopes up on a vaccine either, she said they never did come up with one from the sars virus and that was in 2008. I know many are still saying it's a bio virus, but we need to remember in those meat markets, they keep animals alive and slit there throats rights there,snakes,bats,koalas,and all those inner parts of all of these species end up in the same drain. Sounds to me like a cocktail from hell. Finally this is not a time to panic but just do what you can to prepare for your own quarantine if need be for you and your family if things get bad. We're all going to weather this storm together it appears , and being able to sound off in the Avalon family from around the world in one location is a very grand comfort.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Thinking about what this may mean to the healthcare professionals in the US, I read that the US keeps a stockpile of medical supplies

    Strategic National Stockpile

    But if this becomes an epidemic, will we have enough staff to treat and beds and equipment. I think not?



    Best to avoid the infection of course. Humidity does decrease aerosolization apparently

    Quote This Inexpensive Action Lowers Hospital Infections And Protects Against Flu Season
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    .....Scientists attribute the influence of dry air to a new understanding about the behavior of airborne particles, or “infectious aerosol transmissions.” They used to assume the microbes in desiccated droplets were dead, but advances in the past several years changed that thinking. “With new genetic analysis tools, we are finding out that most of the microbes are not dead at all. They are simply dormant while waiting for a source of rehydration,” Taylor explained. “Humans are an ideal source of hydration, since we are basically 60% water. When a tiny infectious particle lands on or in a patient, the pathogen rehydrates and begins the infectious cycle all over again.”

    These findings are especially important for hospitals and other health settings, because dry air is also associated with antibiotic resistance, which can devastate whole patient populations. Scientists now believe resistant organisms do not develop only along the Darwinian trajectory, where mutated bacteria produce a new generation of similarly mutated offspring that can survive existing antibiotics. Resistant pathogens in infectious aerosols do not need to wait for the next generation, they can instantly share their resistant genes directly through a process called horizontal gene transfer.

    According to her research, and subsequent studies in the medical literature, the “sweet spot” for indoor air is between 40% and 60% relative humidity. An instrument called a hygrometer, available for about $10, will measure it. Every hospital, school, and home should have them, according to Taylor, along with a humidifier to adjust room hydration to the sweet spot.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Hi there,

    I think everything the cabal uses is a weapon. Like 5G, Corona, monetary system (collaps), vaccination, health system in general, ... And we can everywhere find their action results in powerty, diseases, death. Time to drain the swamp. High time.


    The story can be found here:
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-...-collapse.html
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    From https://ntd.com/chinese-authorities-...t_437649.html:

    Chinese Authorities in Coronavirus Epicenter Have Begun Partially Shutting Down the Internet
    February 22, 2020

    “The internet connection in my home was cut off for several days. I kept on calling the mayor’s hotline, but nobody is taking care of us,” said a resident of Wuhan City, Hubei Province, where the coronavirus (COVID-19 virus) outbreak began.

    Since Feb. 11, more and more Wuhan residents reported that their home internet connections were down. Wuhan authorities have issued strict quarantine measures to contain the outbreak, including allowing only one person per household to leave their homes.

    The Chinese-language Epoch Times (CET) spoke with several Wuhan residents and found that some neighborhoods, where there are large numbers of reported COVID-19 virus infections, have had their internet cut off.

    Commentators believed that the authorities are using this method to restrict netizens’ ability to talk freely about the situation on the ground.

    Since the outbreak in early December 2019, about 70 percent of the officially reported cases of infection are in Wuhan.

    No Internet Connection

    Several interviewees told the CET that their residential areas began broadcasting messages via loudspeakers installed on lampposts that their internet connections would be cut off soon, starting from the evening of Feb. 10.

    A Wuhan resident who lives on Jiangdi Zhong Rd. in Jianghan district posted on social media that his home internet connection was cut off on the afternoon of Feb. 11. He checked with other neighbors who lived nearby and confirmed that their home internet connections were also cut off.

    “Where I am, it’s close to the makeshift hospital at the Wuhan International Expo Center. It looks like everyone in our community lost their internet connection,” the resident complained.

    A Wuhan resident who lives in Jiang’an district told the CET on Feb. 19 that his internet connection has not been restored. He has resorted to using his cell phone to surf the internet.

    Zeng Jieming, a U.S.–based Chinese activist, told the Chinese-language Epoch Times on Feb. 19: “I have two friends who live in Wuhan. One lives in Caidian district, and the other lives in Jiangxia district. Both of them said their internet connections were down … They were told [by the communist regime] that there were too many rumors online, which [the regime claimed] severely interfered with the outbreak relief efforts.”

    According to Zeng’s friends, the outbreak in Caidian and Jiangxia districts is severe. Local authorities are afraid that people will expose the truth about the outbreak to the outside world by posting videos online, they said.

    Purpose

    Gu He is an observer of internet censorship in China. He told the Chinese-language Epoch Times that such tactics are par for the course for the Chinese regime.

    “As early as 2009, the Chinese government cut off the internet in the whole Xinjiang region, [and confined it] to a local area network for 312 days,” Gu said. “It uses this method to control people’s speech.”

    The internet blackout in Xinjiang, home to 25 million people—many of whom are Uyghur Muslim minorities—was reported by several human rights groups and media at the time. Chinese authorities acted in July 2009 after a series of violent riots took place in Xinjiang’s capital city Urumqi. The internet was restored in May 2010.

    Since Wuhan was locked down on Jan. 23, netizens have begun making social media posts exposing the actual situation on the ground. They are exposing the different symptoms the COVID-19 virus causes. They are showing poor medical conditions in local hospitals, highlighting skyrocketing food prices, showing dead bodies being collected from people’s homes. There are videos of police forcibly sending people to quarantine centers and exposing the poor conditions at those quarantine centers, including lack of food, water, and medical treatment; and people hopeless about their possibility of recovering from the illness attempting to end their lives.

    Internet censors have since begun cracking down on such posts, even deploying a troll army to write positive posts about the authorities’ outbreak-fighting efforts.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Eligos (here)
    Trump Regime Overruled CDC, Flew Coronavirus-Infected Americans on Plane With Healthy People: Report

    https://gizmodo.com/trump-regime-ove...d-a-1841826671

    How else can one analyze this but think that they are really trying to infect the US?
    This kind of error is so blatant it’s insane!
    Just a note about this. Gizmodo is very anti-Trump, and seemed to relish labeling the [inexplicable!] decision that of "the Trump regime".

    It was actually a US State Department decision. Trump had no part in it. A Washington Post article from yesterday:

    Trump was not told coronavirus-infected Americans would be flown home from cruise ship

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This might NOT belong here, possibly more appropriate on one of the US political threads. (Pro or anti-Trump!)

    It's a long article, but may be very interesting to those closely watching the US political landscape.

    My own brief comment about this: it has to be possible that some US authorities and decision-makers might deliberately exacerbate this situation, precisely to act as a lever to prise Trump from office later this year.

    Some of the administrative decisions made have been very hard to understand, and several members here have commented that it's almost as if someone in the US wants this to spread widely.

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    https://politico.com/news/2020/02/21...e-house-116650

    White House fears coronavirus could shape Trump's 2020 fortunes
    21 Feb, 2020

    Though Trump in public has downplayed the virus, privately he has voiced his own anxieties.

    The Trump administration is bracing for a possible coronavirus outbreak in the United States that could sicken thousands — straining the government's public health response and threatening an economic slowdown in the heat of President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign.

    That stark realization has taken hold in high-level White House meetings, during which some administration officials have voiced concerns the coronavirus is already spreading undetected within U.S. borders, two officials told POLITICO.

    Though Trump in public has downplayed the virus, privately he has voiced his own anxieties, rebuking public health leaders over last week's decision to fly home 14 Americans who tested positive for the virus while aboard a cruise ship off Japan, said three individuals with knowledge of the situation. Trump was worried that transporting the Americans to the United States without adequate precautions could create new risks, the individuals said.

    “The biggest current threat to the president’s reelection is this thing getting out of control and creating a health and economic impact,” said Chris Meekins, a Raymond James financial analyst and former Trump administration HHS emergency-preparedness official.

    An HHS spokesperson said the administration is committed to protecting public health and preparing for multiple scenarios due to the novel nature of the virus. "As we’ve said all along, the risk to Americans is low, but we expect the numbers to increase," the spokesperson said, declining to characterize the nature of the discussions.

    But there has been tension within the Trump administration over the response so far. Four officials acknowledged that the process has hit bumps, with high-pressure debates over resources and planning occasionally reopening fault lines between the White House and HHS that first emerged over Trump's broader health agenda.

    Some of the biggest challenges have been within the health department, with the Centers for Disease Control revising its quarantines, opposing the evacuation of the Diamond Princess cruise ship — despite evidence that a quarantine imposed by Japanese authorities had failed and infections were spreading — and raising general questions about the agency’s level of preparedness.

    Only 34 cases have been confirmed in the United States, including those brought home from the cruise ship. But the outbreak, now in its third month, has exploded overseas. More than 75,000 cases of the respiratory illness have been confirmed in China and at least 2,200 people have died. Infections are surging in areas outside the epicenter in Hubei Province, spreading rapidly to South Korea, Singapore, Iran and Japan in recent days.

    The virus currently has no cure, can be spread by people who have no outward symptoms and appears to pose a significant risk to the elderly. CDC Director Robert Redfield acknowledged last week that officials expect person-to-person transmission in local communities, whether this year or next.

    The White House stressed that its inter-agency response team led by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar is working “around the clock.”

    "President Trump’s top priority is the health and welfare of the American people, which is why he established the President’s Coronavirus Task Force to contain the spread of the virus,” a spokesperson told POLITICO. “Every precaution is being taken as this situation continues to change hourly.”

    Meanwhile, the White House remains worried about growing economic risks, with Chinese production plunging in recent weeks and U.S. companies like Apple and Walmart with significant investments in the country reporting they’re taking financial hits. Senior officials fear that a sustained outbreak could slow global markets and upend a strong U.S. economy that has been central to Trump’s political pitch.

    The administration’s fumbled evacuation of about 400 Americans from the marooned cruise ship brought into focus multiple gaps in preparedness, said four individuals with knowledge of the episode.

    U.S. officials spent 10 days with little information about conditions aboard the ship, relying on Japanese health department reports rather than dispatching CDC staff. That left U.S. health officials at odds over whether an evacuation was necessary before political pressure intensified. Officials managing the evacuation last Saturday were later surprised to learn, while busing evacuees to a Japanese airfield, that 14 Americans they were transporting were reported to have tested positive for coronavirus. The State Department decided to fly the Americans back over CDC’s objections, the Washington Post first reported.

    Officials continue to second-guess the original, swift decision to leave Americans aboard the ship for days, even as infections multiplied.

    “I think that was one of the cruelest human experiments I've seen in my entire career,” said Michael Osterholm, director of University of Minnesota’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, who has advised federal health officials on the response. “That was truly one of our public health lesser moments.”

    Administration elevates virus fight to top priority

    The fate of Trump’s response rests on Azar, who has modeled plans based on his experience fighting SARS and other pandemics as a senior health official in the George W. Bush administration. The health secretary — who is steering the response in addition to his other duties — has been near-constantly flanked by top scientists like CDC’s Redfield and veteran infectious disease specialist Anthony Fauci at White House meetings, congressional briefings and televised updates.

    The wide-ranging administration strategy has pulled together disparate offices like the Transportation Department and border patrol to handle the practicalities of travel and homeland security, as well as scientists at the National Institutes for Health, working to devise potential treatments. It’s also drawn in top political officials like Joe Grogan, the White House Domestic Policy Council chief, who was picked for the coronavirus task force amid worries about how the outbreak would affect Trump’s broader agenda.

    Azar has frequently leaned on Robert Kadlec, his assistant secretary for emergency and preparedness, whose team played a key role in evacuating the Diamond Princess last week. Kadlec — viewed by Azar as a problem-solver who was tapped to reunify separated migrant families in 2018 — also had prepared national disaster management personnel to handle pandemics by putting them through specialized training to handle infectious disease issues two years ago, said two individuals.

    One question that’s been raised at senior meetings is whether the official U.S. count of coronavirus cases is too low, given the virus’ ability to incubate for weeks. POLITICO reported on Thursday that only three of the nation’s more than 100 public health laboratories had even verified the CDC’s coronavirus diagnostic test for use, further delaying screening efforts.

    “[S]ince most people with the virus suffer only a mild illness, dozens and perhaps even hundreds of cases may be circulating undetected,” Luciana Borio, a former National Security Council fellow, and Scott Gottlieb, the former FDA commissioner, argued in a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Friday, calling for more screening.

    Meanwhile, the administration has kept in constant contact with Congress about its response efforts — a sharp departure for an administration that's been in a near constant state of warfare with congressional Democrats, lawmakers and aides said.
    Officials including Azar, Redfield and Fauci have provided multiple briefings on their latest findings, in some cases spending more than an hour behind closed doors fielding questions and concerns.

    "The administration is fully engaged," Rep. Greg Walden of Oregon, the top Republican on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said following a meeting earlier this month. "We're holding our own right now, which is where you want to be."

    The administration also has quietly worked with blue states like California and officials in staunchly Democratic cities like New York City.

    "The federal government is working closely with state, local, tribal, and territorial partners, as well as health sector partners outside the government, to respond to this public health threat," said the HHS spokesperson.

    Cracks emerge as crisis drags on

    Still, there are signs that the bipartisan solidarity is beginning to fray.

    The White House last week invited several top-level Democrats and Republicans to a West Wing briefing led by acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney,billing it in part as an opportunity to offer critiques of the administration's response. That guest list included the chairs and ranking members of relevant committees, along with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and top House Republican Kevin McCarthy.

    But neither Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer nor House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — who have clashed repeatedly and publicly with the president — received an invite, multiple aides confirmed. HHS referred questions to the White House, which declined comment.

    Some Democrats, meanwhile, have stepped up their rhetoric against the administration, targeting in particular Trump’s 2018 decision to eliminate the position dedicated to handling global health security threats.

    “You’re kind of dealing with a government that doesn’t care about government, and then overlay your normal bumbling incompetence onto the possibility of a global pandemic,” Sen. Brian Schatz of Hawaii said on MSNBC this week. “To the extent that we’ve been fortunate with this disease, it’s because of the epidemiology of the disease, not because of some sort of coordinated response.”

    Schatz, along with several other Democrats like Massachusetts Sen. and presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren, have pushed for the appointment of a single National Security Council official to coordinate the administration's efforts.

    Others questioned whether the administration is adequately preparing for the potentially disastrous consequences of a months long outbreak, including disrupted drug supply chains, shortages of protective equipment and a growing financial toll on hospitals. During one Capitol Hill briefing, Azar appeared dismissive of questions about the funding outlook for state and local providers, aides said, telling members that the federal government had already given them lots of money in the past.

    Pelosi, meanwhile, has made a point to lavish praise on Fauci — a long-time NIH official beloved on both sides of the aisle — telling reporters after one closed-door briefing that she had full confidence in his ability to manage the response.

    As for Azar? “All I know about Azar is that he used to work for a pharmaceutical company,” she said.

    More substantially, both Republicans and Democrats have been struck by HHS’ refusal to seek additional funding to fight the disease, rather than shifting funds from other parts of the department. The resistance has prompted speculation that Azar is loath to offer any sign the outbreak could worsen on his watch.

    “They don’t want to make it a bigger thing,” one senior Democratic aide said. “They squeeze the other coffers dry to cover themselves on coronavirus.”

    Meekins — the former HHS official-turned-financial analyst, who this week warned investors the chance of “notable widespread cases” in the United States is 20 percent — said that a significant outbreak this year could overshadow the president’s other initiatives ahead of November.

    “This is one of those things where if you prevent a problem, you get very little credit — but the downside is if it goes wrong,” Meekins said.Yet there’s one boon for Trump, amid the growing scrutiny: He doesn’t have to deal with the kind of fearmongering he helped stoke as a private citizen during the 2014-2016 Ebola outbreak in Africa.

    Among elected officials, only Republican Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas has publicly suggested the virus could have more questionable, manmade origins than China is willing to let on, though he has emphasized that he has no evidence and merely wants the issue investigated. Administration officials have not ruled out that the virus originated from a lab accident, carefully choosing their words when asked directly about the possibility.

    "It is important not to speculate and while we do not yet know the source of origin of this virus, we will not jump to any conclusions. We await the scientific evidence," said the HHS spokesperson.

    Trump’s deputies in the meantime have urged the president to restrain his public rhetoric. Officials also are working to navigate the delicate relationship with China, already strained by trade battles and other policy clashes, without further antagonizing global partners or overly alarming Americans.

    But one specific episode underscores fears that Trump may not be willing to stay silent for long, especially if the virus' spread threatens his political prospects. In a Feb. 7 tweet, Trump asserted that efforts to combat coronavirus "will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone."

    He's repeated the claim that the virus will dissipate in April to a group of governors, frustrating health officials inside and outside the administration who worry it could create a false sense of security.

    There is little scientific evidence for the theory, heightening concerns that if cases suddenly start to accelerate, that single tweet will undo months of work to assure Americans they're handling the crisis.

    “We can’t say that it’s been contained. We lost containment a long time ago,” said Osterholm. “We’re in uncharted territory right now.”

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    Regarding Politico...

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    Answered Sep 12, 2018

    They're for anyone in the establishment that will give their corporate overlords what they want. This makes the entity incredibly biased against the various anti-establishment factions in the GOP (Tea Party, Trump Base, Libertarians, ETC…) and even more than that, the progressive wing of the democratic party. They despise Bernie Sanders. They despise Donald Trump. They despise AOC. They despise Ron Paul. They don't like populism. Be it on the right or left. They almost exclusively side with the democratic establishment. Trump is wrong by saying “Fake News". It's Biased. Not fake. Now that's not to say that everyone at politico thinks that way. Or in any news organization for that matter…but they have to follow script or they get tossed aside. It's shameful the idea of a free press has devolved into corrupt public indoctrination.

    Comment: When reading any article from high profile "news" organizations (though all "news" should be considered with a grain of salt), I get the most out of an article by understanding "who is behind it" and "what is their likely agenda."

    Note the word "fears" in the headline. That is the big red flag right off the bat.

    But since the word happens to be there, and considering at this very moment I see two members (one is myself) on this thread and see 34 guests...
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Russia is apparently causing trouble yet again.

    https://channelnewsasia.com/news/wor...rm-us-12461174

    Russia-linked disinformation campaign fueling COVID-19 alarm, US says
    22 Feb, 2020

    WASHINGTON: Thousands of Russian-linked social media accounts have launched a coordinated effort to spread alarm about the new coronavirus, disrupting global efforts to fight the epidemic, US officials say.

    The disinformation campaign promotes unfounded conspiracy theories that the United States is behind the COVID-19 outbreak, in an apparent bid to damage the US image around the world by seizing on health concerns.

    State Department officials tasked with combatting Russian disinformation told AFP that false personas are being used on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to advance Russian talking points in multiple languages.

    "Russia's intent is to sow discord and undermine US institutions and alliances from within, including through covert and coercive malign influence campaigns," said Philip Reeker, the acting Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasia.

    "By spreading disinformation about coronavirus, Russian malign actors are once again choosing to threaten public safety by distracting from the global health response," he said.

    The claims that have been circulating in recent weeks include allegations that the virus is a US effort to "wage economic war on China," that it is a biological weapon manufactured by the CIA or part of a Western-led effort "to push anti-China messages".

    US individuals including Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, a philanthropist who has spent billions on global health programs, have also been falsely accused of involvement in the virus.

    The disinformation campaign was identified by US monitors in mid-January after Chinese officials announced a third death from the new coronavirus in Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak.

    More than 2,340 people have since died, mostly in China, and the number of cases exceeds 76,000, most are in China.

    CLOSE COORDINATION OBSERVED

    Several thousand online accounts - previously identified for airing Russian-backed messages on major events such as the war in Syria, the Yellow Vest protests in France and Chile's mass demonstrations - are posting "almost near identical" messages about the novel coronavirus, according to a report prepared for the State Department's Global Engagement Center and seen by AFP.

    The accounts - run by humans, not bots - post at similar times in English, Spanish, Italian, German and French and can be linked back to Russian proxies, or carry similar messages to Russian-backed outlets such as RT and Sputnik, it said.

    Russian state-funded media started pushing anti-Western messages about the cause of the epidemic on Jan 20, with operators of the social media accounts beginning to post globally the following day, US officials say.

    "In this case, we were able to see their full disinformation ecosystem in effect, including state TV, proxy web sites and thousands of false social media personas all pushing the same themes," said Special Envoy Lea Gabrielle, the head of the State Department's Global Engagement Center, which is tasked with tracking and exposing propaganda and disinformation.

    During many past news events, the accounts would post actively for up to 72 hours. But messages about the new coronavirus have been uploaded every day over the past month - a sign, US officials said, of Russia's investment in a story unlikely to disappear soon from the headlines.

    "In the Russian doctrine of information confrontation, this is classic," said another official from the Global Engagement Center.

    "The number of coronavirus cases globally hasn't reached its apex, so the Russian strategy is to very cheaply but very effectively take advantage of the information environment to sow discord between us and China, or for economic purposes."

    Experts saw parallels with previous conspiracy theories traced to Moscow, including a KGB disinformation campaign in the 1980s that convinced many around the world that US scientists created the HIV virus that causes AIDS.

    US intelligence has also said that Russia interfered through social media manipulation in the 2016 election and seeks to do so again in 2020. The Kremlin has denied the charges and President Donald Trump has scoffed at suggestions of Russian help.

    RISKS SEEN IN RESPONSE

    Scientists believe the COVID-19 illness originated in late December in Wuhan at a market selling exotic animals for human consumption.

    Bats are known carriers of this strain of the coronavirus, whose official name is SARS-CoV-2, but scientists think it spread to humans via another mammal species, possibly pangolins.

    The US believes the latest Russian disinformation campaign is making it harder to respond to the epidemic, particularly in Africa and Asia, with some of the public becoming suspicious of the Western response.

    The World Health Organization warned Friday that the window to stem the outbreak was narrowing, voicing alarm at a surge of cases with no clear link to China.

    A State Department official said that Russian operatives appeared to have been given "carte blanche" to attack the US reputation.

    "Whether or not a particular theme is being directed at the highest levels doesn't matter. It's the fact that they have freelance ability to operate in this space to do whatever damage they can, which could have seismic implications."

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    I think that no matter the physical consequences of covid-19 (and I think it is not a simple flu), it is already chiseling cracks. The military plans something and a federal judge blocks it. The community does not want the people so where will they go?

    Judge Blocks Transfer of Coronavirus Patients From Travis AFB to Orange County
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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    I think that no matter the physical consequences of covid-19 (and I think it is not a simple flu), it is already chiseling cracks. The military plans something and a federal judge blocks it.]
    All over the world, this has been a story of administrative blunders, complacency, acting too late, and/or a lack of co-ordination. The one exception is Singapore, as Chris Martenson applauds.

    Singapore is doing ALL the right things, including its very detailed and transparent public announcements. For those who may be unaware, it's a highly advanced little nation in almost every aspect. But even there, the virus is spreading fast. If Singapore can't rein this in, then no-one will be able to.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    JS just reported a new potential nugget of info that may help in the fight against this plague.

    STOP EATING PORK

    I have insider info that sounds too crazy to post but there is no choice, it must be said. I'll try to keep it brief:
    There is a binary poison that is aerially spread that is a long duration neurotoxin that has pork as one half of the binary. It is extremely potent. If you get even a small whiff and then eat pork, the symptoms are the same as COVID-19. This poison is a super histamine trigger that causes your lungs to fill with phleghm. High doses cause greater symptoms, up to seizures. Once you get nailed by it, (if you survive) it stays in your system strongly for two years and fades out over a decade and if you stop eating pork, it will go inactive. This could be what "coronavirus" in China really is and would explain why people "recover" and then get slammed again.
    AT PRESENT, THIS HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED IN THE UNITED STATES BUT IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO KNOW ABOUT.
    How hard is it to avoid pork? Not hard at all.
    This post was too brief, there's a LOT more detail on this topic but I am worried it will sound "too crazy" to post. I'll say this: What better thing could there possibly be for those who eat Kosher? BONUS: It won't work on Muslims either because they don't eat pork. They're supposed to be the ones taking over, RIGHT? Just listen to the visceral dietribe coming from the "tribe" right now, they want traditional white Western types dead and replaced with third world Muslims. What better way to do it than a binary poison that won't nail Jews or Muslims?

    Think about that.

    Your lungs will phleghm out and you won't have a fever at all. In some cases you could even be "asymptomatic" and drop dead but usually there's a long period of obvious symptoms.

    This has replaced the previous post, I found a better way to say it. I am worried this sounds too crazy, but the poison is DEFINITELY real, and it is VERY potent, a few 2 liter bottles dispersed in a city would do the trick.

    I know Chinese intelligence reads this site. And I hope they run tests of this and then take appropriate action. Here are the details:
    In mild/moderate poisonings, discontinuation of all pork in the diet will cause symptoms to fade within two weeks. If someone is poisoned with this then eats pork, they go right back to full symptoms. Testing this is how a poisoning can be confirmed.
    If this ends up testing out in China, remember what the Bible says about who takes Israel out!

    I have not received any notice that this poison was released en masse in China, but it is definitely something to know about and China had damn well better be running tests on people to see what happens, STAT.

    My own comment :
    In Singapore there's a patient in went into the Critical / Intensive Care Unit who is of Bangladeshi descent - bangladeshis are primarily Muslim, so they don't eat pork either. The 2 claimed deaths in Iran should debunk this theory as well. So let's let it play out a little more, but since I already don't eat pork, I'm more than happy to follow this route of advice.

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