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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    But could it be possible that the HIV parts could kill the immune system, and so eventually killing the person who is infected? They made it, so they know what can happen.
    That could explain why the chinese government is locking down whole city’s to try to stop it? And why they are in big panic.

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    The Truth About the Coronavirus

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    To me, this article clearly shows a very early example of the effects of this virus on business, that is quite ominous.

    Quote Coronavirus Spreading in Munich Shows Difficulty Halting New Bug

    A business event in Munich set off a chain of coronavirus infections that began with an infected colleague from Shanghai who showed no symptoms during a trip to the German city. It’s the largest reported cluster of cases caused by human-to-human spread outside China.

    According to auto-parts supplier Webasto SE, seven of its employees -- five German and two Chinese -- have been infected with the new coronavirus, the cause of a massive pneumonia outbreak in China that the World Health Organization declared a global emergency on Thursday.

    The infection appears to have been transmitted while a Shanghai-based colleague was still incubating the virus. The woman attended meetings from Jan. 19 to 22 at Webasto’s headquarters in Stockdorf, on Munich’s outskirts, with no signs or symptoms of infection, but she became unwell on her Jan. 22 flight back to China. She tested positive for the 2019-nCoV virus four days later, doctors said in the New England Journal of Medicine on Thursday.


    The cases show the difficulty of controlling the contagion using methods such as fever-screening at airports. Almost 10,000 people across 20 countries are confirmed to have been infected with the new virus, which was first reported in the central Chinese city of Wuhan a month ago.


    Mitigation strategies for halting the spread of 2019-nCoV have been informed by experiences combating coronaviruses that cause severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, and Middle East respiratory syndrome. People don’t typically transmit those infections unless they have symptoms, said Benjamin Cowie, a professor of medicine at the University of Melbourne and an epidemiologist with the Peter Doherty Institute for Infection and Immunity.

    “With this information suggesting that there is at least the ability to isolate or detect the virus in asymptomatic or apparently asymptomatic individuals, that’s got significant implications for epidemiological control measures,” he said. “If we’re trying to identify cases when they’re not symptomatic, that’s impossible on a clinical basis, and that then becomes a lot harder to control.”

    An analysis by U.S. researchers of screening travelers found the strategy will, at best, detect less than half of infected travelers. Those who are incubating their infection may feel healthy enough to travel but show no detectable symptoms, they said in a Jan. 28 study.

    Need for Reassessment?

    “The fact that asymptomatic persons are potential sources of 2019-nCoV infection may warrant a reassessment of transmission dynamics of the current outbreak,” Camilla Rothe and colleagues at the University Hospital LMU Munich, who investigated the cluster in Germany, said in a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine.

    “With this information suggesting that there is at least the ability to isolate or detect the virus in asymptomatic or apparently asymptomatic individuals, that’s got significant implications for epidemiological control measures,” he said. “If we’re trying to identify cases when they’re not symptomatic, that’s impossible on a clinical basis, and that then becomes a lot harder to control.”

    An analysis by U.S. researchers of screening travelers found the strategy will, at best, detect less than half of infected travelers. Those who are incubating their infection may feel healthy enough to travel but show no detectable symptoms, they said in a Jan. 28 study.

    The first of the German cases occurred in an otherwise healthy 33-year-old businessman, who became ill with a sore throat, chills, and muscle ache on Jan. 24. He had a fever and a cough the next day, but by the evening of the following day, he started feeling better and went back to work on Jan. 27, the same day his China-based colleague told company officials that she was ill.

    Swabs of the back of the man’s nose and throat, and a sputum sample tested positive for 2019-nCoV. Follow-up tests found he still harbored high levels of the virus in his sputum on Jan. 29, a day after three other employees tested positive, including two who hadn’t been in contact with the colleague from China.

    Patients with confirmed 2019-nCoV were isolated in a Munich infectious diseases unit. All seven people attended various meetings together in Stockdorf, the company said in a statement Friday.

    Some 122 staffers have returned negative tests for the coronavirus, with a few test results still pending, according to the company.

    Webasto, which has about 13,000 workers in 50 different locations, said it will keep its headquarters closed until next Monday. The company is preparing for employees to return to work Tuesday, Feb. 4, amid reports that its workforce is being subjected to discriminating behavior.

    “We are receiving an increasing number of reports from employees that they and their families are being turned away from institutions, companies or businesses when it becomes known that they work for Webasto,” Chairman Holger Engelmann said. “We understand that the current situation is unsettling and also frightening for people, but it cannot be that normal everyday life is no longer possible for people who do not belong to the risk group. This is an enormous burden for the families of our employees.”

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    The Truth About the Coronavirus
    An excellent presentation by Stefan Molyneux. Most of the info I'm aware of is in there, and some that I wasn't. It's a very thorough yet concise summary of what is and isn't known right now (including the mysterious 'insert' anomaly, and the possible HIV connection), and a big-picture overview of the situation so far. All of his information comes from quoted, cited references, all in his YouTube descriptive text for anyone to check out.

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    This is a completely insane thought. Humor me. What if HIV is and always was present in all of us in a hidden and dormant state that requires a catalyst to activate it? What if Corona is that catalyst?
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    Quote Posted by AriG (here)
    This is a completely insane thought. Humor me. What if HIV is and always was present in all of us in a hidden and dormant state that requires a catalyst to activate it? What if Corona is that catalyst?
    I don't think it's insane to think that, I can see that many diseases could possibly lie dormant, and have heard this idea not only from the so-called "alternative remedy minded people", but as well from someone in the medical community.

    I do not know the actual phrase for this kind of activation, but I'm sure someone here will know.

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    #5G Launches In Wuhan Weeks Before Coronavirus Outbreak

    In this Infowars Special Report, Greg Reese connects the dots between the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, a Netflix docuseries pitching vaccines as a solution to outbreaks, Wuhan’s recent launch of 5G and warnings from experts who say 5G could cause “flu-like symptoms.”
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    Quote Posted by AriG (here)
    This is a completely insane thought. Humor me. What if HIV is and always was present in all of us in a hidden and dormant state that requires a catalyst to activate it? What if Corona is that catalyst?
    The anomalous 'inserted' section of the virus "encodes a multifunctional protein responsible for entry into host cells". (Stefan Molyneux's excellent video, at 25:37.) I'm no microbiologist, but I suspect that's what's fueled suspicions about an HIV connection.
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    Quote Posted by Ayt (here)
    The first of the German cases occurred in an otherwise healthy 33-year-old businessman, who became ill with a sore throat, chills, and muscle ache on Jan. 24. He had a fever and a cough the next day, but by the evening of the following day, he started feeling better and went back to work on Jan. 27, the same day his China-based colleague told company officials that she was ill.
    More about the so-called 'German coronavirus cluster' (or Bavaria cluster):

    Quote Bavaria nCoV Cluster Grows To Ten Cases In Three Countries
    By niman, 2 hours ago in Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)

    Confirmation of nCoV in a Webasto company employee, 33M, from Munich increases the cluster to 10 including a business associate in Shanghai, a child of one of the employees, and an employee/tourist in the Canary Islands. The 10 person cluster is spread over six cities (Shanghai, Stockdorf, Fürstenfeldbruck, Traustein, Munich, La Gomera) in three countries (China ,Germany, Spain)
    http://recombinomics.co/topic/4631-b...ree-countries/

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    China Deploys MASSIVE Drone Army Spraying Chemicals To "Combat" Coronavirus
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    More Chinese are believing they are suffering from a bioweapon attack, though I believe they are still a small minority. Articles like this is circulating in the social medias. This one is machine translated except for the highlighted important parts which is translated by me.


    Forwarding: There is one not been refuted. No one has refuted the rumor in the biochemical test (gene strategy) in the United States! I am extremely afraid that the World Military Games will be held in Wuhan from October 18 to October 27, 2019, with 369 US soldiers participating. Before that, the United States had already tightened its visa for going to the United States. Judging from the longest incubation period of the virus, the first pneumonia patient was found on December 3. Pushed backward by one month, it is November 3. The patient was delayed in several hospitals for several days. The virus was transmitted to people on October,30, around the conclusion of the military games.

    Judging from the current epidemic, the first batch of patients are concentrated in the vicinity of the Seafood City, which is located in the urban area and is not far from the US hotels of the Military Games. This time the US did not win a gold medal. Does it mean that the US side is targeting the South China Seafood City? I wonder if the camera records near the Seafood City can be checked. Peace has been going on for too long. I don't stare at my opponent when I put him in my house. I can only blame myself for the accident. On January 3, the United States killed Iran's Major General, while the number of Chinese patients suddenly increased to 44. If Iran did not demonstrate with the Beidou's navigation strike afterwards, the United States and Israel would definitely have launched a war of aggression against Iran. At the same time China was busy with the virus, Iran would have been defeated, the United States and Israel would control all the oil in the Middle East, and the Greater Middle East Plan would be completed. When SARS prevailed in Beijing in 2003, the United States and Britain invaded Iraq with all their strength. Coincidence, conspiracy, the evil of evil forces, the evil no extraordinary people can imagine.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    The world is heading toward an extremely dangerous situation. Disinformation and propagandas are all over the internet. I can sense a lot of anti-China sentiments in many posts in this thread. Imagine if China "happens to" be a victim of attack and it is doing a very good job in trying to contain the epidemic that may finally fail and millions killed (but still saved many). This can only be possible with the current system which is "authoritarian" in western standard. What about if in the Chinese internet lots and lots of rumours are circulating with the aim of destablizing the country? China bashing at the point of a serious global crisis will increase hostility between countries and races. That is the main ingredient of the third world war.
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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    From Kerry (Project Camelot) received by her on January 29th sent by somebody currently in Shanghai.

    ---------------------------------------------------------
    ...

    The government is refusing to diagnose the virus, so that the official count of infected and the death toll remains low. I am hearing that a lot of deaths are marked as pneumonia since the victim was never diagnosed positively for Coronavirus.

    ...
    I just want to point out that this is pretty much standard medical practice. Testing for viruses is expensive and requires specific resources that are limited. You just can't test everyone in an outbreak - not possible.

    It's exactly the same for the flu in western countries. Rarely is it ever tested for. In Canada they government claims 8000+ people die each year from the flu. In reality there's usually less than 200 confirmed (tested) cases, and sometimes less than 100. They don't test for it, the assume the numbers, and people who get pneumonia and die, lend to that 8000 number, but most are never tested for influenza.
    Thank you DeDukshyn,

    This reminds me an old Canadian joke:

    There was a chestna plane crash at New Founland City cemetery last month.

    Oficials and experts recovered 1800 human remains form crashland and they are expecting more to find while they are digging more places.

    If you don't know the Chestna plane and what cemetery contains,addition that never met with a New foundlanderian you would be terrified with the News.

    Ps: Given data are inefficient to make an assumption for the time being.
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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    China Deploys MASSIVE Drone Army Spraying Chemicals To "Combat" Coronavirus
    I can't listen to Timcast... sorry! But I found the the source article:
    Coronavirus drone army deployed to spray disinfectant across China cities

    One drone managed to spray disinfectant across 16,000 square metres in just one morning in the latest attempt by Chinese authorities to combat the spread of coronavirus.



    China has deployed an army of drones to disperse disinfectant over villages and cities in the latest attempt to combat the spread of coronavirus.

    At least 213 people have died from the killer disease since it was first contracted from a market in the city of Wuhan, Hubei Province.

    The World Health Organization has since declared the outbreak a global emergency, with Brits trapped in the regions being evacuated on emergency flights.

    Every region across the country has reported cases of coronavirus and China has now taken to using drones to try to prevent the spread.

    Footage posted to social media in the coastal provinces of Jilin, Shandong and Zhejiang shows drones hovering in the air as disinfectant liquid is sprayed from their underside.


    A drone deployed in China's eastern Shandong Province to disinfect a village
    ~~~

    The real significance here is that as suggested by "David", a Navy veteran who works for the DIA and called into the Infowars War Room, this may well mean that the Chinese authorities (a) know that the virus is airborne (and therefore possibly weaponized), and (b) may know something about how to kill it.

    However, the drones aren't very effective. If it took one drone all morning to spray 16,000 sq meters, that's 130 meters x 130 meters. That's like two football (soccer) pitches. If a city is 13 km x 13 km, it'd take 5,000 drones to spray it in a day.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Another tragic event after pig pandemic, Wuhan coronavirus (Chicken flu):

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bird...-highly-2020-2

    https://www.rt.com/news/479871-china...m_campaign=RSS
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    I think Paul Cottrell's channel is useful...



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    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468

    "A 33-year-old otherwise healthy German businessman (Patient 1) became ill with a sore throat, chills, and myalgias on January 24, 2020. The following day, a fever of 39.1°C (102.4°F) developed, along with a productive cough. By the evening of the next day, he started feeling better and went back to work on January 27.
    Figure 1. Timeline of Exposure to Index Patient with Asymptomatic 2019-CoV Infection in Germany.

    Before the onset of symptoms, he had attended meetings with a Chinese business partner at his company near Munich on January 20 and 21. The business partner, a Shanghai resident, had visited Germany between Jan. 19 and 22. During her stay, she had been well with no signs or symptoms of infection but had become ill on her flight back to China, where she tested positive for 2019-nCoV on January 26 (index patient in Figure 1)."

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    In the video I posted with Paul Cottrell, he talked about the "Hiv insertions" and the effect on white blood cells.

    "HIV infects and destroys certain white blood cells called CD4+ cells. If too many CD4+ cells are destroyed, the body can no longer defend itself against infection."

    He also thinks there will be a serious outbreak in the US (some time) and that we will be "on our own"(health care system can't handle an event like this one) and that there will be lock downs (government will be helpless).

    This is all quite alarming.

    Going to add this here about Cistus Incanus. Interesting that so many mediterranean herbs are antiviral




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    • Medical doctors, judges, and even members of the Communist party become rebellious against the present regime. It couldn’t be imagined in the past.
    • Guwon Gui, a Chinese millionaire who is under refugee status in US said China would have to admit that the coronavirus had been leaked at a P4 Biology Institute in Wuhan.
    • Also he said China’s financial system would collapse in near future.
    • The US knew China’s Wuhan virus was serious matter before the last Christmas.
    • The humanitarian crisis is continuing. Wuhan frontline doctors do not have masks and protective gears, so they make improvised masks out of bed sheets and available materials in the hospitals.
    For free society!

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    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1177737.shtml

    09:57 am Feb 2
    Discharging medical sewage without first disinfecting it is forbidden; sewage treatment plants must strengthen disinfection efforts amid #coronavirus outbreak: Chinese authority.

    09:47 am Feb 2
    The #nCoV2019 is transmitable via vomit and feces: Chinese researchers.

    09:06 am Feb 2
    Bodies of nCoV2019 victims should be cremated close by and immediately. Burials or transfer of the bodies not allowed. Funerals not allowed to avoid spread of the virus: National Health Commission.

    08:53 am Feb 2
    Huanggang, a city bordering Wuhan, the center of the epidemic of nCoV, becomes the second city to have more than 1,000 people infected with the coronavirus.

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