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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I was in Target this morning (so banal after the previous post from Italia, but...). The workers were re-stocking shelves with paper and other products. So people are going nuts, much of that stuff is produced here in the U.S. Supplies are still moving and stores are being replenished. Timing is everything, I suppose.

    When I was leaving I felt like saying something to the lady spraying the registers: "Taking your vitamins?" "Huh?" "Vitamins, vitamin c, you know?" "Uh, once in a while...sometimes." And she coughed. "That's from this," she said, pointing at the spray bottle in her hand.

    I wondered as I left: Could she be right, not making a big deal out of the whole vitamin thing? She's out there working, mixing with people. Maybe she's building up strength in her way.

    I also wondered about those workers in general. They need the money sure, but it's also kinda heroic. Rough seas ahead! Stock that toilet paper! They're like first responders before the first responders.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Maybe not the best thread for this, but we know China censored, arrested, etc. early reporters when this contagion got started.

    This from the founder/leader of Gab (a free-speech twitter replacement) and other communication tools, including Dissenter which allows the user to comment on other web-sites that don't allow commenting.

    It is important during this time to be able to get uncensored, citizen reports of what's going on, as we do here at Avalon, and Gab is a big help in that area in my view.

    (Yes - I realize the site is associated with an 'alt-right' community but the tools being built are opinion and viewpoint agnostic).


    https://gab.com/a/posts/103847768868478870

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    Many of you have been asking if Gab has been under attack with everything that is going on.

    The short answer is yes.

    The difference between us and Silicon Valley is that we have been fighting back for months now.

    This all started earlier this year when the Coronavirus news was breaking from independent journalists in China. Many of them joined Gab at the time after experiencing censorship from WeChat and other big tech apps.

    State-sponsored bots are attacking the entire internet with anti-American propaganda and other psyops. Twitter is allowing Chinese bots to flood the site with anti-Trump messaging. These aren't real people expressing their opinions. They are robots pushing a narrative from the Communist Chinese government.

    Another example is Facebook and Youtube sending all of their employees and content moderators home and leaving their platforms to be moderated by robots. It's a total disaster. Real journalists and vital news about the coronavirus is being marked as "spam" and censored by Facebook and Youtube. It's disgusting, irresponsible, and reckless.

    The usual suspects of activists who LARP as "journalists" are up to their old tricks, writing blog posts attacking Gab and our community even amidst a global pandemic. Teams of academic researchers, funded by US FEDERAL MONEY, are publishing "studies" about our community and website.

    It's been nonstop, from every angle.

    Our team is working overtime to combat all of this and build products that are valuable, stay true to our mission, and help change the world.

    Thank you all for your prayers and continued support. Gab is 100% funded and powered by people like you. If you want to support our team and mission in this war the best thing you can do is tell a friend about Gab and go Gab PRO: https://pro.gab.com
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This video is over an hour long but very thorough.

    Dr. Jackson includes many natural, non-toxic solutions and resources for sanitizing plus much more about how to handle this situation.

    Dr. Jackson also provides much good hope for the future. Well worth listening to, IMHO.

    Dr. Robert Jackson, Rheumatologist, compares our current situation with similar past situations, including the 1918 Spanish Flu.

    PSN Dr. Jackson Describes the effects and forecast for the COVID-19 outbreak
    Mar 12, 2020 (1:40:51)
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Free Bird (here)
    Good morning Bill,
    Has the whistle-blower been back in touch since? It would d be useful to know his take on all of this.

    Apologies if this question has already been asked.

    (Note to other readers: this is a question about The Anglo-Saxon Mission.)


    My contact (a Mason and retired British naval officer) passed away a year ago. But I'm quite certain he shared all he knew back in 2010.

    He was only a low-level Mason, and he was very surprised to have been invited to the City of London senior Masonic meeting that he witnessed. He thought it was some administrative error that he was there, so he just sat very quietly and listened carefully, with increasing horror as the plans were presented. That was the only meeting he attended.
    Thank you Bill.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Why are there so many planes still in the air ?

    https://www.flightradar24.com/45.31,-10.45/3

    If it's supposed to be a lockdown ?

    But, what I DO see is a large number of planes crossing the atlantic directly through a region that usually isn't used much, straight towards the caribbean/cuba area.
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    UK Coronavirus Bill - now published by the UK Government.

    Link (the Bill): https://publications.parliament.uk/p...0122/20122.pdf

    Link, the explanatory notes making the Bill more intelligible: https://publications.parliament.uk/p...en/20122en.pdf

    Library link to the documents, here: http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus...rus_Bill_2020/


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    Quote Posted by take (here)
    Coronavirus is good for the planet. And for humanity.
    There are way too many people that live way too long, unnaturally old.
    (…)
    In fact, the positive impact this thing has already had on the environment, climate, and the quality of air, it's probably saved more lives than it's taken.
    You raise an interesting point here with the ecological angle. Those who see this pandemic as some nefarious plan drastically to reduce the world population are not going to like this because ultimately that is not going to happen, au contraire. You make it sound much more like nature’s way of looking after herself. Nature, it would seem, does not put the same low figure on overpopulation as the elite does. That is because the elite are the ones overconsuming and taking up the most space, and they can take the biggest, most effective steps to stay alive, while also growing in numbers. See this post.

    But if this is nature at work, apart from serving notice, she is doing no more than a little random trimming of possibly the least interesting people, with the smallest footprints and the shortest life expectancy. If you are old and bedridden, you are not doing too much environmental damage. The people most responsible for that know how to protect themselves. They are largely out of harm’s way from nature, while at war with her. Localized outbreaks in places like central London (which is happening to some extent) would be more “useful” – places where earth-shakers/hand-shakers might be found. But you read also of how the megarich are jetting out to their underground bunkers. So the bottom line is that nature may be relying on humanity as a whole, possibly through weight of sheer numbers, to stop this minority activity from becoming too rampant.


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    I just got the following forwarded to me, from someone in Chicago. I redacted one name.
    A friend just sent this from her uncle in the national guard:


    He said that they are preparing to mobilize the national guard. Preparing to dispatch them across the US along with military. Next they will call in 1st responders. He said they are preparing to announce a nationwide 1 week quarantine for all citizens All businesses closed. Everyone at home. They were told to pack and be prepared for up to 30 days deployment which he said means they may extend the quarantine up to 30 days. He told me to notify our family members and have them stock up and be prepared. They will announce this as soon as they have troops in place to help prevent looters and rioters... he said he got the call last night and was told to pack and be prepared for the call today with his dispatch orders. He thinks they will announce before the end of the weekend to keep people home on Monday.
    I’ve also heard from our contacts at FEMA the same thing. You’re in the industry so I’m sure you’ve heard but a TSA agent told me they’re closing airports this weekend.


    One of _____'s friends just saw a very long train coming into Chicago, full of military personnel and vehicles

    A friend in the neighborhood says O’Hare is shutting down This weekend

    Thanks Dennis

    I've just alerted The Guardian newspaper international newsdesk on this development
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    "Hey man, I got ups, downs, whachyou lookin' for? Oh the Corona Test Kit. Come wit me..."



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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Just received this from a good friend:

    Lockdown by Brother Richard:
    Yes there is fear.
    Yes there is isolation.
    Yes there is panic buying.
    Yes there is sickness.
    Yes there is even death.
    But,
    They say that in Wuhan after so many years of noise
    You can hear the birds again.
    They say that after just a few weeks of quiet
    The sky is no longer thick with fumes
    But blue and grey and clear.
    They say that in the streets of Assisi
    People are singing to each other
    across the empty squares,
    keeping their windows open
    so that those who are alone
    may hear the sounds of family around them.
    They say that a hotel in the West of Ireland
    Is offering free meals and delivery to the housebound.
    Today a young woman I know
    is busy spreading fliers with her number
    through the neighbourhood
    So that the elders may have someone to call on.
    Today Churches, Synagogues, Mosques and Temples
    are preparing to welcome
    and shelter the homeless, the sick, the weary
    All over the world people are slowing down and reflecting
    All over the world people are looking at their neighbours in a new way
    All over the world people are waking up to a new reality
    To how big we really are.
    To how little control we really have.
    To what really matters.
    To Love.
    So we pray and we remember that
    Yes there is fear.
    But there does not have to be hate.
    Yes there is isolation.
    But there does not have to be loneliness.
    Yes there is panic buying.
    But there does not have to be meanness.
    Yes there is sickness.
    But there does not have to be disease of the soul
    Yes there is even death.
    But there can always be a rebirth of love.
    Wake to the choices you make as to how to live now.
    Today, breathe.
    Listen, behind the factory noises of your panic
    The birds are singing again
    The sky is clearing,
    Spring is coming,
    And we are always encompassed by Love.
    Open the windows of your soul
    And though you may not be able
    to touch across the empty square,
    Sing

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    UPDATE on progress of our machine that was ordered from Luohe, China to Idaho via Fedex:

    Dec 11, 2019 -- Ordered the machine through Alibaba. Alibaba then required additional credit card and personal information which was provided. Alibaba continued to refuse to accept the order after numerous attempts to order.

    Jan 15, 2020 -- We finally gave up on Alibaba since they made it impossible to order the machine through their website. We had to order directly from Luohe Orange Mechanical Equipment Company using one of their PayPal accounts. Machine was ordered on Jan 15th but we were informed that the company had just gone on the Chinese New Year holiday and would be back to send out our order on February 1.

    Feb. 9, 2020 -- We were informed by the factory sales rep that the factory would not be back to work until the 18th of February due to their "special time" [aka, coronavirus outbreak].

    Feb. 23, 2020 -- We were informed that the factory was back to work and they were putting our order together. We were subsequently informed that they did not have our specified electrical plug in stock and that the factory that made those specific plugs was not yet back to work. We then told them to skip the plug and send it out as is (without the plug which is readily available in the US).

    March 5, 2020 -- The factory sent a picture of the machine in a wooden crate ready to be shipped out.

    March 9, 2020 -- The factory informed us that the machine had been sent out and gave us the Fedex tracking number that showed that the machine was in Dongguan, China.

    March 10, 2020 -- Machine in Guangzhou, China.

    March 11, 2020 -- Machine was flown to Honolulu and awaiting customs clearance but Fedex made it very difficult to get information on what forms and information that customs required.

    March 13, 2020 -- Machine had cleared customs "International shipment release--Import". There were no customs duty charged by the US for our imported machine.

    March 14, 2020 -- Fedex tracking stated that our machine would arrive in Idaho on Monday, March 16th. However, the shipment was delayed in Honolulu. At this point Fedex kept changing the tracking data in contradiction to their previous tracking data and apparently the machine arrived in Oakland, CA ~March 15.

    March 19, 2020 -- Fedex tracking still showing the machine is delayed in Oakland, CA, with no delivery date -- "No scheduled delivery date available at this time."

    The air shipment of our machine was originally only supposed to take 6 days. The interruptions and delays in Fedex services are understandable under the circumstances. The problems with Alibaba not accepting payment in December is not understandable (WTF?)

    ZeroHedge's Cov-19 Update today reported the following from Jeffrey Kleintop:

    Is China a leading indicator for the rest of the world as COVID-19 runs its course?
    *FEDEX SAYS CHINA DEMAND HAS REBOUNDED MORE THAN EXPECTED
    *FEDEX SAYS 90-95% OF LARGE CHINESE MANUFACTURERS BACK OPERATING
    *FEDEX SAYS 65-70% OF SMALL BUSINESSES IN CHINA OPERATING AGAIN
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    There was a goose on the very top of my house this morning, honking away!

    I took that as a good sign.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1341984

    Listen to the last 20 minutes of this Icke intervew, done a day ago. Pure Gold.

    If this "virus crisis" does anything for us that's good, it'll shift us--even those of "us" who've already been moving--into a new paradigm of experiencing. Enough is enough.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    [QUOTE=ExomatrixTV;1341841]DISCLAIMER: I only consider this, I do not assume all is correct!

    John Martin
    Quote "HOW TO CREATE A FAKE PANDEMIC 101"
    Quote
    STEP 01 - Suppress people's already weakened immune systems by rolling out 5G wireless technology (which is used as a weapon in the military). Don't test it for safety, people will trust you if you say it's safe. Just tell them you can download porn really fast with it.


    STEP 02 - Declare that there is a new virus in an area of the world where 5G is already rolled out. If there is high pollution in the area, even better. Wuhan, China as a totally random example. Do it in winter when people's immune systems are already suppressed.


    STEP 03 - Start testing people for infection with an inaccurate test which no one even knows the accuracy of. Make sure it gives lots of false negatives and false positives for maximum uncertainty. Most people will just take the numbers of infected you present as fact.

    STEP 04 - Focus on mainly testing people who are really sick. Use the excuse of test shortages and cost (legitimate excuses) for why most healthy people aren't being tested. That way it will look like the case fatality rate is much higher than reality. But just to help make it look real, 5G will help increase the real case fatality rate.


    STEP 05 - Make sure the media goes all in on over hyping and fear mongering. Get most of the sellout alternative media on board too and make them hype it up even more. Focus on areas of the world with lots of old people and active 5G, like Northern Italy... And cruise ships. Convince people that where they live will end up just as bad and worse. Make people so paranoid that they overwhelm hospitals by coming in with the first sign of the sniffles. This zombie rush of paranoid idiots will make it appear that entire countries are getting sicker when mostly they are just getting increasingly paranoid. As a bonus, some people will become susceptible to sickness just by remaining in non-stop sleep deprived active adrenal paranoia. Even many practicing doctors and nurses may be fooled by the zombie onslaught, especially those in 5G areas.


    STEP 06 - After weeks of testing very few people, start testing far more people at an exponential rate. This will create the illusion that the outbreak is now spreading rapidly, when really tons of people would have likely tested positive back before anyone even knew there was a virus. If you time it right, it will look like a growing serious threat rather than an always present nothing-burger. For added effect, report that a (coincidentally disproportionate) number of politicians and famous people are infected. This is when the masses start to grow increasingly concerned rather than just a tiny minority


    STEP 07 - Start counting people who die of the flu or other similar illnesses as dying of the pandemic virus to inflate the numbers. Symptoms are similar, so this isn't a stretch. Hundreds of thousands of people die each year from the flu, so this can make your fake pandemic look much more real by inflating your numbers.


    STEP 08 - Wait until the perception of the pandemic is scary enough that people are demanding to be mass quarantined and think it's a fantastic idea and the only solution. Then start a slow motion quarantine rollout. Get the people to lead you to quarantine them instead of forcing it on them, to avoid resistance. Make it look like it wasn't your plan all along, but rather the only reasonable course of action.


    STEP 09 (OPTION 1) - Keep things locked down until warmer sunnier weather decreases incidence of what is otherwise mostly normal symptoms of colds and flus (plus some 5G immune suppression). Declare that the quarantines were effective, and that without them, tens of millions would have died. Yay for big government! Yay for tyranny!

    STEP 09 (OPTION 2) - Keep society under permanent medical martial law. With numbers never going up but not disappearing fully either. Perfect excuse for permanent tyranny. Especially in the midst of economic collapse which you will have created by now with the fearmongering and quarantines. Travel will remain heavily controlled as long as you want. People will accept the tyranny because they are terrified of the outbreak getting out of control.


    STEP 10 - Eventually present a vaccine which most people take unquestioningly. After all the fear mongering and the quarantines, people will be completely paranoid and no longer thinking rationally (assuming they ever did at one time). This vaccine will mess with their immune system just like flu vaccines do. Ideally, add this to the yearly set of vaccinations. Get people to line up willingly to shorten their lifespans and make them more susceptible to a real pandemic. Don't worry, most people will not require evidence of efficacy nor safety. They still trust the government and media despite absolutely no reason to do so.


    Congratulations! You now have the tools to make your own fake pandemic. [unquote].

    DISCLAIMER: I only consider this, I do not assume all is correct!

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    I second your disclaimer, but when "considering" your steps, the only thing the I might disagree with is step 10... present a vaccine that people take unquestionably... This will be more along the lines of, present a vaccine people MUST take, as responsible citizens and for the sake of protecting their fellow humans... governments probably won't even need to enforce this, the mob will enforce this.

    If there is a vaccine to remedy the nightmare we're all going through, it won't be voluntary. It will be mandatory.

    If this comes to pass, this is nothing short of ushering in Huxley's ultimate revolution.
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    I don't know what we are buying with the massive printing of money and rescue of corporations. We need to protect PEOPLE with any funds.




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    Dear Arcturian108 Thank you, very soul touching. In my friends condo complex there is an older Christian woman who doesn’t drive, has trouble walking, etc. My friend helps her a lot with store runs. This morning she called my friend to say she didn’t need her to get water. Two young Muslim people are fixing up the condo next to her, although they don’t live there. Without being asked they brought her 3 cases of water and some gloves she needed...... This is not the only story I have heard like I this. I doubt they saw anything besides her need. She only knows they are Muslim because of the hijab. The heart sees what the heart sees..... Diane

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    It was just a week ago that the increasing urgency started.
    Del Bigtree trying to look at the various POV on Covid-19.

    After thinking more and more, I am now on the side that we cannot really afford to shut down the economy. IMO when we weigh the deaths of those too ill to manage given our present capacities and weigh the long term dangers of shutting down, the choice to go on with "everyday life" is more important.

    If I get the virus and become very ill, I may die but life will go on. If we shut down, life that we "cherish" which is work, play and friends in essence may be threatened.

    But this is not taking into consideration about how to protect the health care workers.

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    I just got the following forwarded to me, from someone in Chicago. I redacted one name.
    A friend just sent this from her uncle in the national guard:


    He said that they are preparing to mobilize the national guard. Preparing to dispatch them across the US along with military. Next they will call in 1st responders. He said they are preparing to announce a nationwide 1 week quarantine for all citizens All businesses closed. Everyone at home. They were told to pack and be prepared for up to 30 days deployment which he said means they may extend the quarantine up to 30 days. He told me to notify our family members and have them stock up and be prepared. They will announce this as soon as they have troops in place to help prevent looters and rioters... he said he got the call last night and was told to pack and be prepared for the call today with his dispatch orders. He thinks they will announce before the end of the weekend to keep people home on Monday.
    I’ve also heard from our contacts at FEMA the same thing. You’re in the industry so I’m sure you’ve heard but a TSA agent told me they’re closing airports this weekend.


    One of _____'s friends just saw a very long train coming into Chicago, full of military personnel and vehicles

    A friend in the neighborhood says O’Hare is shutting down This weekend

    Thanks Dennis

    I've just alerted The Guardian newspaper international newsdesk on this development
    Thanks, Tintin.

    It's not like I have extraordinary contacts, so I am kind of surprised that this has not been confirmed (at least, that they heard it too) by someone else here on this forum. There has to be others that have a US National Guard soldier contact, or contact of a contact...

    I guess we'll know if this was BS in the next few days. Having lived in the US all my life and having been aware for the past 40 years, both politically and of a behind the curtain cabal running the US agenda, makes this very easy to believe.

    They murdered JFK in broad daylight to announce they were in control, and then controlled the media to make sure they controlled the narrative. They were never caught, tried, and convicted - they slithered back into their US government and CIA jobs.

    They pulled off 9/11, and then controlled the media to make sure they controlled the narrative. They were never caught, tried, and convicted - they slithered back into their US government and CIA (and Mossad) jobs.

    How anyone could believe that the US government is anything but a mobster organization and a front for the "Shadow Government" that planned the JFK hit, 9/11, and now probably the coronavirus gambit, is beyond me. The power of propaganda multiplied by fear psychology techniques, I guess. I'm convinced that there is a virus that I don't want to have to fight off, but everything else about the coronavirus is coming more into focus, to me, as a planned, multi-faceted gambit. I don't wonder if there will be soldiers in the streets - what I'm wondering is how long they will extend the militarized lockdown: long enough to force the heavily armed civilians to take to the streets and make Kent state a picnic in comparison? Pitting part of society (soldiers, cops) against another part of society (civilian citizens), and the guilty, the planners, the rulers are not in the crossfire. Sounds like it may well be part of their grand plan, to me.
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    A Harvard professor and a Chinese scientist, sponsored by Harvard are arrested , the scientist trying to smuggle out of the USA some biological material to take back to China.
    2 min vid / your tax dollars at work

    Last edited by Frank V; 19th March 2020 at 23:23. Reason: embedded your video :)

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    UK UPDATE

    1. Interest rates reduced to 0.1%

    2. Bank of England offering to pay £200Bn of govt debt !?!?

    3. https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-across-the-uk

    4. What the corona virus bill will do

    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...s-bill-will-do

    5. Is this the UK version of the patriots act

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ished-11959342

    Read the new powers that the government are introducing in 5 above.

    Is this the PROBLEM > REACTION > SOLUTION Agenda they really want to introduce?

    6. Some banks and mortgage companies are offering to reduce or delay mortgage repayments for two or three months for people who are impacted by the virus and currently up-to-date with their payments.

    However, do check to see if taking a payment holiday will show as arrears on your credit file and could have a negative impact on your credit score. Please also be aware that although no mortgage payment will be due in that time, interest will still be accrued and added to your mortgage balance.

    Please check with your own lender what the implications and benefits are. More importantly ensure they are transparent and explain all TCs before accepting their new offer or terms.

    7. Fruit n Veg pricing up 100-250% as per channel 4 news item

    What do you make of all that?

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