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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by helium (here)
    Breathe deep the gathering gloom


    My first post; my first potential novel coronavirus.

    Sent my application in yesterday on my 70th birthday to join the Avalon forum. Same day had my first symptoms, out of nowhere. Most likely, if this turns out to be actual COVID and I have tests done, the vector was the county courthouse when I walked in less than a week ago to purchase license tabs for my car. Very sick employees in cramped spaces. I was appalled. Should have ran but it was too late. Otherwise I’ve been a shut-in for nearly the past year, so very little exposure. Attempting to raise awareness in this small community I live in is challenging.

    We will see how things go from here.

    It would be easy to pass off the irony of milestone birthday, acceptance into the Avalon community, and the onset of these symptoms all in one glorious day. And glorious it is/was. No sarcasm intended.

    Irony, synchronicity - isn’t it strange that out of so many worlds and dimensions open for participation that this particular one we inhabit has as part of it’s substructure such an ephemeral phenomena? So many think they are in control when unrestrained control seems the antithesis of the kind of growth that’s intended to take place here. Yet exert a certain control we must, then either suffer or celebrate the consequences that follow. Either way, through pain or joy, we will learn. Best that choices are made with the understanding that pain and joy are intricately entwined. Neither is what they appear to be.

    Red is grey and yellow white.
    But we decide which is right.
    And which is an illusion?


    Can’t get past the strong sense that I was groomed for this scenario that’s facing the world today. It’s energizing, uplifting, and reeking of raw inspiring challenge.

    So when I use the eerie but familiar words breathe deep the gathering gloom they are not intended to incite fear or dread. Reverence is more inline with my thinking – reverence for the unique opportunities that present themselves is more in line with life paths traveled with awareness, empathy, and insatiable curiosity. I’m thinking more in terms of open acceptance, now that I have something tangible to center my attention on.

    Symptoms are mild. Noticed lightheadedness, a bit dizzy washing dishes. Have to sit now and then to be certain I don’t fall. Pulse rate quite elevated even at rest. Temperature up two degrees above my advanced-age normal which is around 96 to 97. Tightness and minor aching across chest. No breathing problems. Mental acuity and concentration are definately impaired. Alternate chills and sweats. Sweating like a pig at this very moment (apologies to all you swine out there. Do you actually sweat?). Could just be the boring old flu. Testing is available here if necessary. All necessary preparations and treatments have been underway.

    Off to the races, in more ways than one!

    At 20 years old I wouldn’t have had the experience to embrace this sort of thing like I do now. Not saying anyone else should adopt my views.
    What a topic for a first post! Welcome to the forum Helium, we are really happy to have you! Keep us posted.

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    Exclamation Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This Project Avalon Forum thread alone has now reached over 2000 (mostly content based) replies/responses and Bill Ryan has studied them all ... (let that sink in for a moment ... )

    But Bill says he is okay with that see this link

    cheers,
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    From Bill:
    Well, 2000 posts over 57 days is only 35 posts a day.
    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 17th March 2020 at 19:32.
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Boris Johnson seems to be banking somewhat on the herd immunity strategy.
    It can't work. It'd collapse (maybe destroy) the National Health Service, and hundreds of thousands (maybe over a million) would die.

    Herd immunity in the end, very probably, after the forest has finally stopped burning. But he might not win the next election.
    They forecast 250000 deaths based on herd immunity model bill,that may well have been optimistic on a best case scenario

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    This Project Avalon Forum thread alone has now reached over 2000 (mostly content based) replies/responses and Bill Ryan has studied them all ... (let that sink in for a moment ... )

    But Bill says he is okay with that see this link

    cheers,
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    My dear John, you have been as tireless a warrior for providing truth and information as Bill! I sometimes marvel at all the information on 5G you have assimilated. You know, sometimes an event occurs and someones got to go after the truth of the matter.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I'm worried ( and a bit saddened ) that quite a few American constitutionalists are doing to the future and longevity of that wonderful founding principle what those same people often say Trump has trapped the MSM and the political left into do to themselves.
    ..................................................my first language is TYPO..............................................

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    In one of the hospitals in Cologne someone has stolen 50,000 face masks. I really can't believe how low some people can stoop!!! It makes me so angry, my wife is a doctor who will be treating corona patients and people are stealing the god damn safety gear for the staff!!!

    In the the hospital where my wife works, face masks have even been stolen from out of the operating theatre and people are stealing the hand sanitizer from next to patients' beds.

    In one of the newspapers in Germany they report that people are going around to old people's houses saying they want to do a corona test and then stealing from them.

    I don't want to believe people can be such scum but I know it's an unfortunate fact. It also scares me to think that this is before things have really got bad.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Boris Johnson seems to be banking somewhat on the herd immunity strategy.
    It can't work. It'd collapse (maybe destroy) the National Health Service, and hundreds of thousands (maybe over a million) would die.

    Herd immunity in the end, very probably, after the forest has finally stopped burning. But he might not win the next election.
    He seems to have backed down quickly.

    A lot of frequent-flyer VIPs are getting sick, many of them over 70, and they want this thing stopped NOW.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    norman / can you better explain this? " I'm worried ( and a bit saddened ) that quite a few American constitutionalists are doing to the future and longevity of that wonderful founding principle what those same people often say Trump has trapped the MSM and the political left into do to themselves.
    Parent Post"

    how are you feeling?

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Boris Johnson seems to be banking somewhat on the herd immunity strategy.
    It can't work. It'd collapse (maybe destroy) the National Health Service, and hundreds of thousands (maybe over a million) would die.

    Herd immunity in the end, very probably, after the forest has finally stopped burning. But he might not win the next election.
    He seems to have backed down quickly.

    A lot of frequent-flyer VIPs are getting sick, many of them over 70, and they want this thing stopped NOW.
    But it can't be, the UK "policy" isn't really a policy, it's mealy mouthed admin turdspeak for "Sorry Folks we effed up, it's too late do anything about it now"
    ..................................................my first language is TYPO..............................................

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)

    People should ask themselves whether this coronavirus “pandemic” could be a big hoax, with the actual danger of the disease massively exaggerated by those who seek to profit – financially or politically – from the ensuing panic.

    When the “threat” is over, however, they never give us our freedoms back.

    Copyright © 2020 by RonPaul Institute.
    Repeat: They never give our freedoms back.

    Maybe this is just the WAKE UP CALL some people needed. Thank you Dr. Paul.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Boris Johnson seems to be banking somewhat on the herd immunity strategy.
    It can't work. It'd collapse (maybe destroy) the National Health Service, and hundreds of thousands (maybe over a million) would die.

    Herd immunity in the end, very probably, after the forest has finally stopped burning. But he might not win the next election.
    He seems to have backed down quickly.

    A lot of frequent-flyer VIPs are getting sick, many of them over 70, and they want this thing stopped NOW.
    But it can't be, the UK "policy" isn't really a policy, it's mealy mouthed admin turdspeak for "Sorry Folks we effed up, it's too late do anything about it now"
    Unless their "policy" is sticking to a suitably vague "plan" - escalate when circumstances and evidence shows the need according to a predetermined but flexible strategy.

    Just had another thought. Suppose our weather changes such that rather than those nice crisp Winter days followed by warm, dry Summers we get a lot more rain throughout the year. It is inconceivable that, rather than occurring every ten or more years, this kind of entertainment will come along every year.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Coronavirus will bankrupt more people than it kills — and that's the real global emergency

    --- Appending to Post --- [/COLOR]

    I just noticed Pam's post, two above this one, of Tucker Carlson. He is essentially saying the same thing - we are heading for an economic disaster much worse than the epidemiological once, if we put our planet in shutdown.
    Seems like Karl Denninger is going along with that same line of thinking. Here is his latest video with some very salient points:
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    It's all about the wonga. It seems no major economy had a pot to piss in for years, all of a sudden trillions of dollars/pounds are being found by all the major economic powers. Ask yourself where the hell is all this money coming from. Somethings afoot here folks and it's not good.

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    Quote Posted by helium (here)
    Breathe deep the gathering gloom


    My first post; my first potential novel coronavirus.
    ............
    Red is grey and yellow white.
    But we decide which is right.
    And which is an illusion?

    ...........
    Can’t get past the strong sense that I was groomed for this scenario that’s facing the world today. It’s energizing, uplifting, and reeking of raw inspiring challenge.
    ...........
    Off to the races, in more ways than one!
    welcome to the forum. I feel proud to be a part of a group of people who are concerned, intelligent and open to new ways of thinking and being. Hope some of the remedies shared may assist you.

    I am very struck by a chord chiming your post. I feel that in some way this is a time that I have been waiting to be in. My personal metaphor is that the shell thin matrix IS CRACKING and that the light is streaming in more than ever. I am excited about the possibility of sanity underneath the chaos.

    I want to share a statement that affirms IMO THIS IS IT. Keep doing our work and it bears fruit!! Note that the exact "what" is not the point. It is turning to the source of the projection we experience as a world and cooperating with that source consciously IMO. Much love to you and all of us as we have a GREAT day.

    Joe Dispenza echos that we are the ones.....

    .

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Some key take-aways from Max's video (very good btw) at https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1341557

    7:54: "The fact that they've used 'corona virus' for this world pandemic, means that it'll never go away. It'll be like a war on terror."

    24:43: "Everything we said is gonna come -- is here."

    24:24: "This could be a huge opportunity for us to really wake up to ourselves and to bring the world into some sort of order."

    26:58: "It would not surprise me at all to see the final stages of this electromagnetic control grid being rolled out while everybody's locked inside."

    27:40: "The most important thing you can do is stay calm. Stay focused. Look out for yourself. Look out for your family. Don't trust the government. Don't take their vaccinations."

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    Quote Posted by Pam (here)
    There are some really sound ideas presented here.
    I think we all need to put these ideas together I hope everyone watches both these videos


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    At 1.38 in the video embedded below (his update for today), Dr John Campbell reads an email he received from an Italian Nurse. Here's the transcript.

    I'd very much like every single person who sees this post to stop and read it from start to finish.

    I wonder what Jon Rappoport, Karl Denninger or Max Igan would say to this woman if they had the courage to speak with her in person.

    ~~~
    We are running out of time. There is not enough beds to admit more sick people. We're also running out of personal protective equipment and we have to re-use it.

    And very often the personal protective equipment is not suitable and does not fully protect us. We are in constant danger. We are aware we could be infected at any time and also bring the virus in our homes and infect our loved ones.

    Work is so exhausting and demanding that there is no even time to cry. Only at the end of an endless shift completely depleted of any strength we allow ourselves to cry.

    We witness continuous death but no funerals can be held and people only grieve isolated and locked in.

    We are worn out, exhausted, and small in number. In the hospitals and on the ground among the population we reach people's homes like soldiers at the front without protection in the region where health assistance requires far too many to be fulfilled.

    We are alone. If we don't stop this avalanche we will pay the highest toll — the failure of our civilized system and anything for which life has meaning.

    We are in desperate need of hospitals, doctors, nurses right now. Not tomorrow. We need qualified personnel, not improvised young people thrown at the front like soldiers.

    Dear citizens, we also need you to lock yourselves in. Any time you go outside you open the door for the virus. We can't afford this any more. Time is up.
    ~~~

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Coronavirus myths debunked by the World Health Organization

    Worth checking this
    The virus has less severe symptoms than cold or flu according to this report.
    The main difference is the shortness of breath.
    Chris

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This just out - source Reuters (citing the source referenced in the article - NIAID)

    New coronavirus can persist in air for hours and on surfaces for days: study

    (Reuters) - The highly contagious novel coronavirus that has exploded into a global pandemic can remain viable and infectious in droplets in the air for hours and on surfaces up to days, according to a new study that should offer guidance to help people avoid contracting the respiratory illness called COVID-19.

    Scientists from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, attempted to mimic the virus deposited from an infected person onto everyday surfaces in a household or hospital setting, such as through coughing or touching objects.

    They used a device to dispense an aerosol that duplicated the microscopic droplets created in a cough or a sneeze.

    The scientists then investigated how long the virus remained infectious on these surfaces, according to the study that appeared online in the New England Journal of Medicine on Tuesday - a day in which U.S. COVID-19 cases surged past 5,200 and deaths approached 100.

    The tests show that when the virus is carried by the droplets released when someone coughs or sneezes, it remains viable, or able to still infect people, in aerosols for at least three hours.

    On plastic and stainless steel, viable virus could be detected after three days. On cardboard, the virus was not viable after 24 hours. On copper, it took 4 hours for the virus to become inactivated.

    In terms of half-life, the research team found that it takes about 66 minutes for half the virus particles to lose function if they are in an aerosol droplet.

    That means that after another hour and six minutes, three quarters of the virus particles will be essentially inactivated but 25% will still be viable.

    The amount of viable virus at the end of the third hour will be down to 12.5%, according to the research led by Neeltje van Doremalen of the NIAID’s Montana facility at Rocky Mountain Laboratories.

    On stainless steel, it takes 5 hours 38 minutes for half of the virus particles to become inactive. On plastic, the half-life is 6 hours 49 minutes, researchers found.

    On cardboard, the half-life was about three and a half hours, but the researchers said there was a lot of variability in those results “so we advise caution” interpreting that number.

    The shortest survival time was on copper, where half the virus became inactivated within 46 minutes.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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