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    More still about Iran. Here's a Twitter feed with multiple reports and videos from the ground all of which suggest the situation there is alarming and utterly out of control.

    https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1233668766124400640


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    Autopsies offer key clues for early stage COVID-19 patients (Global Times, Feb 29)

    Autopsies show severe damage to COVID-19 patients' lungs and immune system, according to a doctor in Wuhan reached by the Global Times, who called for measures to prevent fibrosis of the lungs at an early stage of the disease.

    "The influence of COVID-19 on the human body is like a combination of SARS and AIDS as it damages both the lungs and immune systems," Peng Zhiyong, director of the intensive care unit of the Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University in Wuhan, told the Global Times on Friday.

    Peng said he had just talked to Liu Liang, a forensic specialist from the Tongji Medical College at Huazhong University of Science and Technology. Liu's team has reportedly conducted nine autopsies on deceased COVID-19 patients as of February 24.

    "The autopsy results Liu shared inspired me a lot. Based on the results, I think the most important thing now is to take measures at an early stage of the disease to protect patients' lungs from irreversible fibrosis," Peng noted.

    If irreversible damage is done, other measures, like those to prevent patients from oxygen deficit, will not be of much use, he said.

    Liu's team published a paper on an autopsy they conducted in the Journal of Forensic Medicine on Tuesday.

    The paper said there was apparent damage to the patient's lungs. An excess production of mucus spilled out of the alveoli, indicating COVID-19 causes an inflammation response that damages deep airways and pulmonary alveoli.

    The patient, an 85-year-old man, exhibited similar pathological changes to those caused by SARS and MERS. Fibrosis in his lungs was not as serious as was seen in SARS patients, but an exudative reaction was more apparent, possibly due to the short course of his disease.

    News about the paper went viral on Chinese social media platforms on Friday.

    Some news reports said that Liu's team's autopsies showed that sputum bolt is one the main reasons that caused COVID-19 patients' deaths. Some medical staff have used sputum aspirators for patients based on the results, which led to a decline by half in the number of deaths in Wuhan on Wednesday.

    The National Health Commission (NHC) said Wuhan reported 42 deaths on Tuesday and 19 on Wednesday.

    However, Peng doubted the reports, saying that he believes the decline was due to the improving situation and shrinking patients pool.

    "Even if the autopsy results are helpful, the effectiveness would not come out so quickly. It takes at least one week to observe," Peng said.

    He warned that the number of deaths may rebound as he knows many critical patients in Wuhan have held out for one month but are still in danger and could die anytime.

    There were 6,775 critical patients in Wuhan as of Thursday and the number of deaths Wuhan authority reported on Thursday was 28, according to NHC.

    The patient mentioned in the paper was hospitalized in January for a cerebral infraction, the death of tissue in the brain resulting from inadequate blood supply. He was confirmed to be infected with novel coronavirus 13 days later and died after a further 15 days. The autopsy was conducted within 12 hours of his death.

    No apparent pathological changes were found in his digestive system, spleen or brain, the report said.

    Liu's team conducted the first on February 16, about a month after the outbreak.

    Liu previously told media that he and his team had proposed to the Wuhan government to conduct autopsies soon after the outbreak.

    The government and local hospitals agreed on the necessity of autopsies but could not provide proper locations. They also worried about risks of viral transmission during such autopsies.

    Yang Zhanqiu, deputy director of the pathogen biology department at Wuhan University, explained that preparation and risk evaluation of the autopsy of COVID-19 patients is crucial, as it may cause containment of the hospital or medical members.

    Also, Chinese traditional thoughts of preserving the body of the deceased may hinder the autopsy process, which requires family consent, Yang told the Global Times.
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    Ireland has its first reported case of COVID-19, as of today (Sunday, March 1st). The (male) patient is being treated in a Dublin hospital, having returned to Ireland from Northern Italy. Not a lot of details have been given at this time.

    "Dr Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer with the Department of Health, said: "This is not unexpected. We have been preparing for this eventuality for many weeks now.

    "Public health protocols have been in place since January and are operating effectively.

    "The health service is well used to managing infectious diseases and has robust response measures in place."


    There are already reports of people panic buying food.
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    More thoughts about the situation in the US. I've suggested that panic buying might begin at the end of the coming week, or very soon after that. But it's already started in New York and Hawaii. For all of you highly aware folks reading this, who may wisely be determined just to stay cool and watch all this play out, do make sure you're not at the end of some long lines that may form quite quickly.

    But here's what this post is about, and not nearly enough people are talking about this.

    Many state proudly that US healthcare is the best in the world, but (whether it is or not!) it's also the most expensive. 44 million people in the US have no health insurance. That's a heck of a lot.

    There was a horrific story about a woman in 2018 who got her leg trapped between a subway train and the platform. It was badly mangled. As bystanders rushed to help, she begged them NOT to call an ambulance — because she'd never be able to afford it.

    They do better than that in Nigeria.

    So: what happens to those who develop apparently serious symptoms, which they suspect are from Covid-19, who have no access to healthcare?

    Maybe merely this: they suffer a lot at home, praying for the best. And maybe some die. Meanwhile all those friends and family doing their best to care for them are infected, too. That's a disaster movie scenario. The US just isn't quite there yet. But they may possibly be within a couple of months.
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    Not to amplify, but purely informative, the situation in Romania: Almost 8,000 Romanians are in isolation at home, another 49 are quarantined. "Patient 1" was cured.

    In our country, the information is passed from the playground of the Ministry of Interior and Foreign Affairs
    (where several commissions of the security, they strike with their left foot in the right leg doing nothing losing themselves in "procedures"), and the playground of the ministry of health
     (whose minister has handcuffs and is imprisoned in custody for 30 days), the population is doing the best they can, as always, and I only trust the population, that they can protect themselves, for the good of all.

    Maybe the culture will finally save us here... I just suppose, because we usually curse with great love every possible evil and the joke is the basis of every reality, no matter how painful it may be, it's crazy but it often works.
    Off topic, I personally, swallow 3 tablespoons of vitamin C powder almost every day every year and I have my immunity already proven for years that I have no trace of cold.I put vitamin C in tea or salads and fruit compote

    Here, where I am, it seems to be more an intrusion of confusion and information(a kind of "infodemic" rather than "epidemic") than an intrusion of the virus and, apart from the spectacle that fear develops,... I am very sorry for all those who are really suffering around the globe

    By virtue of the hope that the whole story will finally end, and in honor of the sacrifice of those who have died, I will keep a moment of peace today.
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    A confession here. I get exasperated sometimes (even though I've been told I'm known for my patience! ) when some issues come up again and again when in my opinion very sound comments have been made earlier in the thread about the same topic.I get exasperated about the 5G thing, too.
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    More thoughts about the situation in the US. I've suggested that panic buying might begin at the end of the coming week, or very soon after that. But it's already started in New York and Hawaii. For all of you highly aware folks reading this, who may wisely be determined just to stay cool and watch all this play out, do make sure you're not at the end of some long lines that may form quite quickly.

    But here's what this post is about, and not nearly enough people are talking about this.

    Many state proudly that US healthcare is the best in the world, but (whether it is or not!) it's also the most expensive. 44 million people in the US have no health insurance. That's a heck of a lot.

    There was a horrific story about a woman in 2018 who got her leg trapped between a subway train and the platform. It was badly mangled. As bystanders rushed to help, she begged them NOT to call an ambulance — because she'd never be able to afford it.

    They do better than that in Nigeria.

    So: what happens to those who develop apparently serious symptoms, which they suspect are from Covid-19, who have no access to healthcare?

    Maybe merely this: they suffer a lot at home, praying for the best. And maybe some die. Meanwhile all those friends and family doing their best to care for them are infected, too. That's a disaster movie scenario. The US just isn't quite there yet. But they may possibly be within a couple of months.
    And several places on the west coast. I'm hearing from moms who are in the Washington, Oregon, and southern California areas that have encountered panic buying. For instance, a case of trying to take the last hand-sanitizer out of someone else's hands. Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and sanitizing wipes being cleared off the shelves. I believe, but am not certain, that these are in the areas that already have confirmed cases. And of course, it's anecdotal, no actual news reports or anything.

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    Article may have inadvertently verified the morphing of Corona Virus.

    The article below is telling us that the virus could have been circulating around Washington state for weeks. Take a look at the parts that I highlighted. If they can identify a probable source vector of the virus due to its similar genetic sequencing that seems to indicate that other people with the virus may have different sequencing.

    I am just appalled at the way the US and Washington state are handling this. No red flags raised that 50 people associated with one nursing home have either pneumonia or other respiratory distress??? The irony of this is my brother is the director of the health department in one of the largest counties here in Washington state.
    Kirkland is a suburb of Seattle and the area is very heavy populated.

    Coronavirus may have been spreading in Washington state for weeks: experts

    Washington state’s coronavirus outbreak that claimed a life over the weekend suggests that the bug has been spreading there for nearly six weeks, according to experts.

    Trevor Bedford, an associate professor at the University of Washington, said that one of the state’s recent cases appears to be linked to a Snohomish County man who was identified Jan. 19 as the country’s first coronavirus patient, the New York Times reported.

    Bedford and a research team found similarities while comparing the genetic sequence of the two samples that indicated the recent case had been descended from the other, suggesting that there has been community spread throughout the region, the outlet reported.

    “I believe we’re facing an already substantial outbreak in Washington State that was not detected until now due to narrow case definition requiring direct travel to China,” Bedford tweeted.

    His findings come after officials confirmed a patient who died at a Seattle-area hospital was the first coronavirus death in the US.

    There were also two presumptive cases in the same suburb linked to a longterm care facility, Life Care Center of Kirkland.

    “In addition, over 50 individuals associated with Life Care are reportedly ill with respiratory symptoms or hospitalized with pneumonia or other respiratory conditions of unknown cause and are being tested for COVID-19,” Seattle and King County officials said.

    The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Saturday that there have been 22 coronavirus cases detected across the country through the public health system.

    Meanwhile, there have been more than 86,000 people infected across the world and at least 2,900 deaths.

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/01/corona...weeks-experts/

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    My fellow Avalonians greetings.

    Im Santo Domingo Dominican Republic and we have our first confirmed case.

    Italian 62yrs old male, looks pretty good actually he was waving his hand at everybody, being kept in quarantine right now.

    Came from Italy aprox a week ago in flight of 200+ people, now authorities are in panic for who knows where these people are right now and who they might come in contact with.

    Keep you posted as the situation develops, be safe.

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    I am very sorry for all those who are really suffering around the globe

    By virtue of the hope that the whole story will finally end, and in honor of the sacrifice of those who have died, I will keep a moment of peace today.
    Thanks so much for sharing your peace. This is sort of off topic but I am encouraged to proclaim the opportunity to be together. We can BE TOGETHER wherever and whenever (no need to clock it) we choose to KNOW that there is Divine opportunity.

    Is this a time when our inner certainty of the Presence can help others? I know from my research and experience that time and space are constructed. We do have a consensus of how we will operate. I would like to interject that it may be possible that at WHATEVER MOMENT we choose to focus on an intention, we will connect with any other moment when that same intention was placed. retrocausation or whatever time slip or whatever it is called may take us to a new "outcome" and this is a prayer.

    Most people don't take advantage of the collective prayer unless there is a catastrophe and then they turn to the Presence of ALL POSSIBILITY. My thought is that NOW I join with ALL those wherever,whomever and however knew that the Presence is able to do anything. I interject into the field that I am so grateful and this wells up like an overflowing cup. Peace is felt in the bones and the Presence is engaged. Now! Now!

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    Irish update:

    "A Dublin school with 400 pupils is to close for two weeks after one of its students was confirmed as having the coronavirus.

    The teenager, who is the first person in the Republic to test positive for the virus, became ill in recent days after returning from Italy and is in isolation in Dublin hospital."

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    Local news agency started to report that patients who requires critical medical treatment are dying because they can't go to the hospital due to overwhelmed medical system in Daegu city, the ground zero of COVID-19 of South Korea. The city I live has around population of one million. Only big hospitals have intensive care units with equipment. I estimate total number of ICU is less than one hundred in the city.

    Original Korean news (https://news.v.daum.net/v/20200302005502530)
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    (Daegu = News1) Reporter Seung-ryul Nam
    Five patients with confirmed coronavirus infection (COVID-19) died in Daegu one day.

    As a result, 13 died in Daegu and total domestic death is 22.

    According to health authorities and Daegu City, Patient. A (80, female) was found dead at about 8 PM in a family house in Suseong-gu, Daegu. Patient A, the 12th deceased in Daegu, showed symptoms of corona 19 including fever on the 26th of last month. The confirmation of COVID-19 infection was reported to the family about 6 PM on the day.

    The health authorities are looking at the cause of Patient. A's death and its association with COVID-19.

    A 77-year-old woman, who was in the hospital treatment in Daegu Fatima Hospital, also died late at about 1:40 AM on March 1st. The woman showed symptoms of COVID-19, including fever, and was confirmed the next day after being hospitalized on the 29th day of last month. She was suffering from liver cancer as an underlying disease.

    At 2:25 pm, an 80-year-old man who was admitted to Chilgok Gyeongbuk National University Hospital died at 4:25 PM and an 86-year-old woman who was transferred to Daegu Catholic University Hospital.

    The 80-year-old man, the 10th death of Daegu, was confirmed corona19 on 28th day of last month and suffered from hypertension.

    The 86-year-old woman, the 11th death of Daegu, died of hospitalization at home because she had no hospital bed due to the explosion of COVID-19 confirmed patients.

    The woman was confirmed on the 28th day of last month and was transported to Daegu Catholic University Hospital for two days due to difficulty breathing.

    The number of confirmed COVID-19 patients who died due to lack of hospital beds in Daegu was worsened due to severe symptoms, including the 12th death of Daegu as of 11 PM.

    Earlier today, at 11:20 AM, an 83-year-old man died in quarantine at Kyungpook National University Hospital. This male is the ninth death of Daegu.
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    SOUNDS DESIGNED TO ELIMINATE THE OLD AND THE WEAK. Bill Gates must be smiling.

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    SOUNDS DESIGNED TO ELIMINATE THE OLD AND THE WEAK. Bill Gates must be smiling.
    Yes, and if these figures are representative, life insurance companies will be decimated, but pension providers and companies with large unfunded pension liabilities will receive some much needed balance sheet restructuring.
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    This video, posted on The Borax Conspiracy thread, has some creepy similarities to what's going on right now. I was watching this to learn more about Borax, but I was surprised at how much of what was describe aligned with what's been going on with this virus!

    Just going by what I can remember, the video goes into nano technology that when activated causes the person to have flu-like symptoms including the lungs filling up, heart failure, and convulsions. But there's a lot more.


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    Ireland has its first reported case of COVID-19, as of today (Sunday, March 1st). The (male) patient is being treated in a Dublin hospital, having returned to Ireland from Northern Italy. Not a lot of details have been given at this time.

    "Dr Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer with the Department of Health, said: "This is not unexpected. We have been preparing for this eventuality for many weeks now.

    "Public health protocols have been in place since January and are operating effectively.

    "The health service is well used to managing infectious diseases and has robust response measures in place."


    There are already reports of people panic buying food.
    I know a bit about this. The victim was coughing and spluttering throughout the flight so likely most passengers infected, not sure if all the passengers have been isolated as they should have been.
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    From where did you source this information?

    All the data that I can gather at this moment is that the patient is a high school student, from Dublin, that travelled from Ireland to Italy and back again.

    Patient confidentiality has restricted the media from reporting on any of the more personal details. However, it has been reported that he only became ill after returning from Italy.

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    A mathematical note, simply an extrapolation from the graph.



    The number of confirmed cases outside of China is doubling every 1.5 days. If that rate of increase continues, by the end of this week the number will reach 100,000 — unless something remarkable happens in terms of containment in several key countries.

    Of course, the world may well run out of test kits first, with clinical assessment taking their place. It seems intuitively barely believable that this steep rate of increase could continue. But if it does, and real numbers are somehow counted, I'll leave someone else to work out how many cases there'd be by the end of March. (It's easy to do, but I really don't want to write the number down!)
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    Uncoffined they were strewn

    Tangled corpses lay unmourned

    'The Great White Dope' naire a Cobra called yet still they fell asunder in their masses

    #COVID2019 did 4 me

    Yet far too busy the elite be

    To mourn their lack of humanity

    When my end came

    'The unknown victims'

    2020

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    Hi everyone. I rarely post on the forums and have been following this thread with fascination. I am in Australia and have just read this article...

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...46a6d17aa0ea98

    In it Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeanette Young goes on to say this about a woman who has the virus after travelling from Iran...

    The woman returned to Australia from Iran on February 24.

    “I’ve got no concerns about the people who were on the plane with that lady who returned from Iran because she was thoroughly well and she only developed full symptoms at 3pm on Thursday,” she said.

    If the quote is correctly reported, it flies in the face of what we know of the virus.

    She also stated “I expect we will see an outbreak of the epidemic in Queensland,”

    I guess if this is how the Queensland government approaches it, she may well be right.

    I feel like I am watching a Monty Python sketch.

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