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    Mike Adams also talked about the underlying issue of weakened immune systems in Bill's last post. I am sure this is true, healthy immune systems are what will be saving us. I agree with Dr. Shiva and appreciate his video here.


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    Primaries postponed in Georgia and Louisiana.
    Just a pause to wonder: What about the next one? Does everything keep getting shut down--each time?

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    I am waiting to see how the age range looks in the US

    Quote 40 to 50 Dutch corona patients in intensive care units: "More than half are under fifty"

    Today there are between forty and fifty corona patients in critical condition on Dutch intensive care units. “More than half of those patients are under fifty years old. There are also young people. "" That says chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care (NVIC) Diederik Gommers, in an interview with this site.

    The professor of intensive care medicine, who himself heads the IC of Rotterdam's Erasmus MC, emphasizes that it is not only the elderly who are affected by the corona virus. ,, What has mainly made the news is that older people die faster. This is about 2.5 percent of the entire population, while about 15 percent of the elderly die. But more than half of those patients are under fifty years old. It also includes young people. "

    The specialist explains that it also regularly happens with regular flu that younger people end up in intensive care. "You can see that with the flu: those people get severe double-sided pneumonia." In addition, older people also choose not to be treated in intensive care.

    16 year old
    A 16-year-old boy from Breda is infected with the coronavirus and is currently in the intensive care unit of the Erasmus MC-Sophia Children's Hospital. His family calls on the whole of the Netherlands: "Wake up and take this virus seriously."

    The IC specialist also says that admissions to intensive care because of the Covid-19 virus can take weeks. ,, In Erasmus there are two patients who have been on respiration for three weeks now. All other patients on the intensive care unit are shorter. "

    Dutch doctors have also been informed about patients from Lombardy, Italy, who confirm data that young and relatively healthy people are also affected by the corona virus. ,, The youngest intubated Covid-19 patient is a girl of 16 years old. Two children with Covid-19 were admitted to the pediatric IC for observation but did not require additional therapy, "the information circulated among Dutch physicians states. The first patient to be ventilated in that Italian region was ventilated for eighteen days, while he was relatively healthy. "It was a 38-year-old, otherwise very healthy man, who ran marathons for this."

    Main risk factor for obesity
    The average age of all covid-19 ic patients in Lombardy, Italy, was 70 years, according to which "the main risk factor for ic uptake is obesity". According to that information, the transfer of corona from mother to unborn children does not seem to take place. ,, This is based on three positively tested mothers (all incidentally complaint-free) who gave birth to a child which tested negative for covid-19. The same was observed in China, "according to the information distributed to Dutch specialists based on the Italian region.

    "Rest and control"
    According to Gommers, it is "busy" in the Netherlands for the departments for the most seriously ill patients, who need continuous care and monitoring, "but because precautions have been taken, it is still possible." “I have had both Den Bosch and Amphia in Breda on the line today. There is peace and control. "

    Currently, according to the chairman of the IC doctors in the Netherlands, "about forty to fifty people are in intensive care units, that is the position this morning." “In Breda, for example, the large intensive care units have between eight to ten patients. That is about 30 percent of the total capacity. It is therefore a little less busy than I initially expected, "admits the chairman of the intensive care association, who warned that after this weekend not only the Brabant but also the Rotterdam intensive care would fill up.

    A Chinese study, based on nearly 45,000 patients, shows that the elderly are by far the most at risk for contracting the coronavirus. The risk of death of people over 80 was almost 15 percent, for people in their seventies this is 8 percent, for example, against 0.2 percent of infected teenagers.

    Of those first 45,000 patients from the Chinese study, according to Gommers, "about 5 percent were in intensive care and about 15 percent ended up in hospital." "So in total it is about 20 percent." "According to the IC specialist, you can only say more about how deadly it is when the coronavirus has been eradicated. “There is no point in counting hospital admissions. You can only tell afterwards how deadly such a flu virus is, by comparing the number of deaths against the population. "
    This is a very good article that states containment is critical and half hearted measures won't work. posting the end

    Quote “Flattening the Curve” is a deadly delusion
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    China has learned its lesson: after the lockdown of Hubei, other regions implemented effective containment measures as soon as the first cases emerged. The same happened in Singapore and Taiwan. South Korea was tracking its first 30 cases very well, until patient 31 infected over 1000 others on a church congregation.
    For some reason, Western countries refused to learn the lesson. Italy thought they could get away with letting the virus spread, until their hospitals collapsed under the load, and older people or those with a history of cancer, organ transplants or diabetes were excluded from access to critical care. The US, UK and Germany are not yet at this point: they try to “flatten the curve” by implementing ineffective or half hearted measures that are only meant to slow down the spread of the disease, instead of containing it.
    There will be some countries that do not have the necessary infrastructure to implement severe containment measures, which include widespread testing, quarantines, movement restrictions, travel restrictions, work restrictions, supply chain reorganization, school closures, childcare for people working in critical professions, production and distribution of protective equipment and medical supplies. This means that some countries will stomp out the virus and others will not. In a few months from now, the world will turn into red zones and green zones, and almost all travel from red zones into green zones will come to a halt, until an effective treatment for COVID-19 is found.
    Flattening the curve is not an option for the United States, for the UK or Germany. Don’t tell your friends to flatten the curve. Let’s start containment.
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    I'm not sure if this guy is helping or fanning the flames.

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    If this is too esoteric for this thread, just move or delete it.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    A colleague's 12 year old grandson developed flu symptoms, was diagnosed with Corona virus because they couldn't rule it out without test kits (which apparently prove little) and which is actually pretty convenient for adding to scary tallies of infectees. California has 4 cases of presumed corona virus cases in kids aged 0-17. Or I guess this makes 5. Or maybe not.

    Each passing day seems more like a choreographed social, political and economic experiment and nothing like the pandemic it seems, uh, scheduled to be.
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    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020...ance-drug.html

    France Minister of Health advised yesterday via Twitter: (translation of a friend) if you take anti-inflammatory pills, (like ibuprofen, cortisone), this could worsen your infection
    if you have fever, take paracetamol
    Go see a doctor if you are currently taking anti-inflammatory pills

    There was also a WhatsApp message in German (which sounded pretty trustworthy to my ears) going viral yesterday, it was talking about some scientists of Vienna Medical University doing research on why Italian cases were so severe and that they all had taken ibuprofen before. Then some Vienna scientists tested corona viruses with ibuprofen (don’t ask me the exact way) and found something happening. They also said in the message, of course they were no big valid scientific tests but presumably doctors in Vienna are telling patients not to take ibuprofen (don’t know if that’s true.) they also said it’s not official because couldn’t withstand lawsuits from Pharma.

    Later the Vienna Medical University officially claimed it as fake news (of course they have to do that)

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    Here in the UK ibuprofen is contraindicated for asthmatics anyway so it’s no great surprise that it may exacerbate the symptoms of a lung condition like C-virus.

    Ibuprofen worsens asthma symptoms by causing the airways to narrow in a condition known as bronchospasm. Aspirin-induced asthma is another recognized condition, which is believed can occur with the use of other NSAIDs (Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) as well.

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    Quote Posted by Mare (here)
    Here in the UK ibuprofen is contraindicated for asthmatics anyway so it’s no great surprise that it may exacerbate the symptoms of a lung condition like C-virus.

    Ibuprofen worsens asthma symptoms by causing the airways to narrow in a condition known as bronchospasm. Aspirin-induced asthma is another recognized condition, which is believed can occur with the use of other NSAIDs (Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) as well.
    Thanks for your addition!
    Well in my experience people take Ibuprofen like candy - „I need an Ibu“ is what they say.

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    Why did President Richard Nixon tell his hand picked special agent Robert Merrit, deep under the White House, that the year 2020 was going to be catastrophic for the human race ?

    According to Daniel Liszt, that actually happened.
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    Hello guys,
    Things are going downhill here in Iran,
    President Rouhani just said there will be no government imposed quarantines trying to keep the normal everyday life and economy from falling, contrary to what the revolutionary guard said yesterday, guess they have lots of inner conflicts going on
    and while they promised to postpone bank repayments, banks are now taking money from accounts without notice,

    There are 100 new deaths everyday going up by 20 and a steadily going up thousand new cases each day

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    I hope information from this video helps because I found it to be true.


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    quite near the beginning of this video it's interesting to hear Trump say "they all know where this came from, we all know where this came from".




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    What doesn't the NSA know?
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Hi folks!

    There's also another angle to all this.

    In this video they talk about the Spanish flu and how this can be related. They somewhat run deep into how new type of electrification of the earth always leads to another flu-type pandemic. They talk about how viruses are simply excretion of a toxic cell, viruses are pieces of dna/rna with a few other proteins that break from the cell, viruses are not the cause of anything.



    I'd be happy to hear some thoughts about this. Stay safe ppl and make good decisions. Much love <3
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    Quote Posted by alexius (here)
    Hi folks!

    There's also another angle to all this.

    In this video they talk about the Spanish flu and how this can be related. They somewhat run deep into how new type of electrification of the earth always leads to another flu-type pandemic. They talk about how viruses are simply excretion of a toxic cell, viruses are pieces of dna/rna with a few other proteins that break from the cell, viruses are not the cause of anything.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70xuorU4XuE

    I'd be happy to hear some thoughts about this. Stay safe ppl and make good decisions. Much love <3
    Well, it depends what one means by 'cause'. If you were in a biolab, with no hazmat suits, and someone dropped and broke a vial of Smallpox or Ebola, that'd almost certainly be the end of everyone in that room — no matter how healthy you were.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Caution. This blog seems to have been infected.

    Being a fairly new member, somehow I had expectations that this forum was different.

    Given that the rest of the internet only deals with one subject currently, we also seemed to have succumbed to the virus. No place to surf without being overrun with Covid19 news.

    I am going to self-insulate my mind for 14 days and see what happens.....

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Seems to me that Bill Ryan is either simply not very intelligent or has been compromised or bought out and is spreading unwarranted fear in the exact same manner as the MSM. This isn't Ebola, or smallpox, its a virus that only kills people with very weak immune systems (just like regular flu) and a hundred thousand plus people have had it and got back to perfect health fairly shortly after.

    Having a healthy immune system is the number one thing you can possibly do for yourself and your own protection. Don't allow this man to lower your frequency and put you in to a state of fear thus lowering your immune system.

    Eat well. Breathe well. Meditate in peace. Regulate your vibrational frequency towards harmony. Feel the love and gratitude for this wonderful life fully within your heart and radiate it out through your body and on to others.

    Vitamin A is crucial. If you contract it, vitamin C is crucial. Love, peace and gratitude.

    I forgive you Bill
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    Quote Posted by MorningFox (here)
    Seems to me that Bill Ryan is either simply not very intelligent or has been compromised or bought out and is spreading unwarranted fear in the exact same manner as the MSM. This isn't Ebola, or smallpox, its a virus that only kills people with very weak immune systems (just like regular flu) and a hundred thousand plus people have had it and got back to perfect health fairly shortly after.

    Having a healthy immune system is the number one thing you can possibly do for yourself and your own protection. Don't allow this man to lower your frequency and put you in to a state of fear thus lowering your immune system.

    Eat well. Breathe well. Meditate in peace. Regulate your vibrational frequency towards harmony. Feel the love and gratitude for this wonderful life fully within your heart and radiate it out through your body and on to others.

    Vitamin A is crucial. If you have it vitamin C is crucial. Love, peace and gratitude.

    I forgive you Bill
    Well, thank you for your forgiveness!

    I was specifically responding to this comment about the nature of viruses:

    Quote Posted by alexius (here)
    They talk about how viruses are simply excretion of a toxic cell, viruses are pieces of dna/rna with a few other proteins that break from the cell, viruses are not the cause of anything.
    Of course, this coronavirus is almost nothing compared to Smallpox or Ebola. But it's still a virus, and all viruses work in basically the same way.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I mean no ill will Bill (hah!) and I thank you for all you've done but I've noticed multiple posts of yours in this thread that are doing not much other than spreading fear. That is the last thing we need be doing right now.

    Love and light to all.

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