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    Quote Posted by Sadieblue (here)
    They have closed our colleges and Universities in my area of Tn. today.
    Some of the churches are going to have online services instead
    of a big gathering.
    Greetings from East Tennessee! Situation is amping up here slightly to say the least. Many people still in denial as to the severity of this virus, however..
    42 confirmed cases in Georgia. The map shows how the confirmed cases are clustered.

    Georgia, US is now up to 42 Coronavirus cases.

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    Thanks for that link.... Frankly I feel we have entered into 9/11 part 2

    Whitney Webb in a conversation about conspiracy realism at hand.


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I've had exactly the same thought the. 9/11 part two.

    They're more desperate than ever.

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    A good example of the aggressive action by the CDC to identify people with the virus - if true. A total of 77 tested so far this week.


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This may have been posted before? This is coming out of China.

    Quote COVID-19: Further Evidence that the Virus Originated in the US
    Larry Romanoff


    It would be useful to read this prior article for background:

    China’s Coronavirus: A Shocking Update. Did The Virus Originate in the US?

    By Larry Romanoff, March 04, 2020

    ***

    As readers will recall from the earlier article (above), Japanese and Taiwanese epidemiologists and pharmacologists have determined that the new coronavirus almost certainly originated in the US since that country is the only one known to have all five types – from which all others must have descended. Wuhan in China has only one of those types, rendering it in analogy as a kind of “branch” which cannot exist by itself but must have grown from a “tree”.

    The Taiwanese physician noted that in August of 2019 the US had a flurry of lung pneumonias or similar, which the Americans blamed on ‘vaping’ from e-cigarettes, but which, according to the scientist, the symptoms and conditions could not be explained by e-cigarettes. He said he wrote to the US officials telling them he suspected those deaths were likely due to the coronavirus. He claims his warnings were ignored.

    Immediately prior to that, the CDC totally shut down the US Military’s main bio-lab at Fort Detrick, Maryland, due to an absence of safeguards against pathogen leakages, issuing a complete “cease and desist” order to the military. It was immediately after this event that the ‘e-cigarette’ epidemic arose.



    Screenshot from The New York Times August 08, 2019

    We also had the Japanese citizens infected in September of 2019, in Hawaii, people who had never been to China, these infections occurring on US soil long before the outbreak in Wuhan but only shortly after the locking down of Fort Detrick.

    Then, on Chinese social media, another article appeared, aware of the above but presenting further details. It stated in part that five “foreign” athletes or other personnel visiting Wuhan for the World Military Games (October 18-27, 2019) were hospitalised in Wuhan for an undetermined infection.

    The article explains more clearly that the Wuhan version of the virus could have come only from the US because it is what they call a “branch” which could not have been created first because it would have no ‘seed’. It would have to have been a new variety spun off the original ‘trunk’, and that trunk exists only in the US. (1)

    There has been much public speculation that the coronavirus had been deliberately transmitted to China but, according to the Chinese article, a less sinister alternative is possible.

    If some members of the US team at the World Military Games (18-27 October) had become infected by the virus from an accidental outbreak at Fort Detrick it is possible that, with a long initial incubation period, their symptoms might have been minor, and those individuals could easily have ‘toured’ the city of Wuhan during their stay, infecting potentially thousands of local residents in various locations, many of whom would later travel to the seafood market from which the virus would spread like wildfire (as it did).

    That would account also for the practical impossibility of locating the legendary “patient zero” – which in this case has never been found since there would have been many of them.

    Next, Daniel Lucey, an infectious disease expert at Georgetown University in Washington, said in an article in Science magazine that the first human infection has been confirmed as occurring in November 2019, (not in Wuhan), suggesting the virus originated elsewhere and then spread to the seafood markets. “One group put the origin of the outbreak as early as 18 September 2019.” (2) (3)

    Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spreading globally.

    Description of earliest cases suggests outbreak began elsewhere.

    The article states:

    “As confirmed cases of a novel virus surge around the world with worrisome speed, all eyes have so far focused on a seafood market in Wuhan, China, as the origin of the outbreak. But a description of the first clinical cases published in The Lancet on Friday challenges that hypothesis.” (4) (5)

    The paper, written by a large group of Chinese researchers from several institutions, offers details about the first 41 hospitalized patients who had confirmed infections with what has been dubbed 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV).

    In the earliest case, the patient became ill on 1 December 2019 and had no reported link to the seafood market, the authors report. “No epidemiological link was found between the first patient and later cases”, they state. Their data also show that, in total, 13 of the 41 cases had no link to the marketplace. “That’s a big number, 13, with no link”, says Daniel Lucey . . . (6)

    Earlier reports from Chinese health authorities and the World Health Organization had said the first patient had onset of symptoms on 8 December 2019 – and those reports simply said “most” cases had links to the seafood market, which was closed on 1 January. (7)

    “Lucey says if the new data are accurate, the first human infections must have occurred in November 2019 – if not earlier – because there is an incubation time between infection and symptoms surfacing. If so, the virus possibly spread silently between people in Wuhan – and perhaps elsewhere – before the cluster of cases from the city’s now-infamous Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market was discovered in late December. “The virus came into that marketplace before it came out of that marketplace”, Lucey asserts.

    “China must have realized the epidemic did not originate in that Wuhan Huanan seafood market”, Lucey told Science Insider. (8)

    Kristian Andersen is an evolutionary biologist at the Scripps Research Institute who has analyzed sequences of 2019-nCoV to try to clarify its origin. He said the scenario was “entirely plausible” of infected persons bringing the virus into the seafood market from somewhere outside. According to the Science article,

    “Andersen posted his analysis of 27 available genomes of 2019-nCoV on 25 January on a virology research website. It suggests they had a “most recent common ancestor” – meaning a common source – as early as 1 October 2019.” (9)

    It was interesting that Lucey also noted that MERS was originally believed to have come from a patient in Saudi Arabia in June of 2012, but later and more thorough studies traced it back to an earlier hospital outbreak of unexplained pneumonia in Jordan in April of that year. Lucey said that from stored samples from people who died in Jordan, medical authorities confirmed they had been infected with the MERS virus. (10)

    This would provide impetus for caution among the public in accepting the “official standard narrative” that the Western media are always so eager to provide – as they did with SARS, MERS, and ZIKA, all of which ‘official narratives’ were later proven to have been entirely wrong.

    In this case, the Western media flooded their pages for months about the COVID-19 virus originating in the Wuhan seafood market, caused by people eating bats and wild animals. All of this has been proven wrong.

    Not only did the virus not originate at the seafood market, it did not originate in Wuhan at all, and it has now been proven that it did not originate in China but was brought to China from another country. Part of the proof of this assertion is that the genome varieties of the virus in Iran and Italy have been sequenced and declared to have no part of the variety that infected China and must, by definition, have originated elsewhere.

    It would seem the only possibility for origination is the US because only that country has the “tree trunk” of all the varieties. And it may therefore be true that the original source of the COVID-19 virus was the US military bio-warfare lab at Fort Detrick. This would not be a surprise, given that the CDC completely shut down Fort Detrick, but also because, as I related in an earlier article, between 2005 and 2012 the US had experienced 1,059 events where pathogens had been either stolen or escaped from American bio-labs during the prior ten years – an average of one every three days.

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    Larry Romanoff is a retired management consultant and businessman. He has held senior executive positions in international consulting firms, and owned an international import-export business. He has been a visiting professor at Shanghai’s Fudan University, presenting case studies in international affairs to senior EMBA classes. Mr. Romanoff lives in Shanghai and is currently writing a series of ten books generally related to China and the West. He can be contacted at: 2186604556@qq.com. He is a frequent contributor to Global Research.
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    Yes, sanctions on Iran making it harder for them to fight the virus, I read they just asked for a $5 billion loan from the IMF.



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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Graffex Set-up! Gates foundation rolling out trial for Covid-19 vaccinations! Forty-five people will be enrolled in the preliminary safety trial of the new vaccine. This group may have the potential to be “Super spreader” like the case in Wuhan. This vaccination that can be activated with 5G to make you very ill or kill if you are not compliant as the same as they did in Wuhan. This trial must be to do with this! https://trib.al/5m30XaS

    US scientists have completed a coronavirus vaccine, Texas-based genetic engineering company claims (20/3/2020)

    Greffex said Wednesday that they had finished development of their vaccine for the virus. Here’s the SHOCKER! The Forensic Nurse Corona virus bioweapon update. Its a collaboration between China and USA! What! The state of Texas, Greffex laboratory to manufacture bioweapon Corona virus vaccine. This laboratory is currently manufacturig Zika, Ebola, MERS, Avian flu H5N1 and many rare birth defects have been reported since 2012. Water supplies near this lab can and may be contaminated.

    Nurses Blast Government And Hospital Responses To Coronavirus
    So they happen to have a vaccine ready at the same time that they begin to shut everything down in North America? Seems an odd coincidence.

    One thing that I wanted to echo is something Bill said earlier - there is still so much that we do not know!

    I would expect that there would be more information about exactly what the virus is and how it works. If they have a vaccine, you would think that there would be more published info about the virus itself. I have heard multiple numbers when it comes to how long it lives on surfaces. Infection rates, etc.

    On the other hand, if it is as deadly as some claims, then stopping so much public activity right away is a responsible measure. Given the small numbers of infected people presently in North America I expect to see good control of the spread of this virus.

    Yet I am also concerned that now that this virus has everyone'e attention the public's fears and anxieties can be more easily manipulated.

    Unfortunately, I feel that we are in a precarious position.

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    This event is still amenable to changing our beliefs......I really like the idea here of bringing something to the association so that when we hear about it, we can FEEL good.

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    Here's My Easy Transurfing 101 for Corona Virus

    Most people will agree with me that the "virus pendulum" is everywhere right now. On our screens, in the words that people speak around us and even in our own minds. Almost impossible to ignore. But in my honest opinion, ignoring is not the solution here in order to drop importance.

    From what I can observe, the panic that people are experiencing in their hearts right now is caused by their beliefs about the various negative outcomes they focus on. Beliefs which are mostly induced by the media and amplified by their own personal imagination. If it affects you emotionally, my suggestion here is that you change the negative meaning you attach to this virus into a more positive one, so that when you hear about it, you feel good.

    The way to do it is not by suppressing, but by first completely accepting the negative scenario that you are already subconsciously believing in. Let it surface and feel it fully with no resistance. Let it be. Let it exist. Resistance equals focus on an undesired reality. And focus creates reality. Non resistance will naturally drop this negative focus. Once it is done and the tension is less strong, shift your attention on a better belief, meaning or scenario about the situation. After that, everytime you hear about the virus, remember your new positive beliefs/scenarios/meaning.

    If once in a while fear gets you by surprise again, just acknowlege it as your old self and focus on the beliefs you crafted for your new self. Be the new self. Repeat the process if necessary.

    For example, here's my new belief: It's ok if I get infected by the virus, I have very high chances of surviving. If I die, then it will be because my world wanted me too and I can't do much about it anyways. The truth is my body is energy and by practicing non resistance, I let my body do its job and protect me. The one thing I can do is to elevate my vibration by putting love in my heart instead of fear. Letting my love and non resistance uplift each and every single cell in my entire body, making it almost invincible... THE VIRUS IS AFRAID OF ME AND MY POWERFUL ENERGETIC FIELD... Maybe this pandemic will turn out to be a quite positive thing for humanity, who knows? It's easy to judge when we don't see the big picture...

    This is just an example. Be creative with it, the goal here is to focus you on a positive scenario in the alternative space which you can believe in right now, because THEY are endless.

    Also be careful with your fear of death and disease. I suggest you read books about the afterlife and how people can heal with the power of their minds. Such works will give you higher beliefs which will greatly reduce the excess potential on this type of fear and make you an even more free and powerful human being.✌

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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    This event is still amenable to changing our beliefs......I really like the idea here of bringing something to the association so that when we hear about it, we can FEEL good.

    Quote William Plante‎ to International Transurfing Institute Community
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    Here's My Easy Transurfing 101 for Corona Virus

    Most people will agree with me that the "virus pendulum" is everywhere right now. On our screens, in the words that people speak around us and even in our own minds. Almost impossible to ignore. But in my honest opinion, ignoring is not the solution here in order to drop importance.

    From what I can observe, the panic that people are experiencing in their hearts right now is caused by their beliefs about the various negative outcomes they focus on. Beliefs which are mostly induced by the media and amplified by their own personal imagination. If it affects you emotionally, my suggestion here is that you change the negative meaning you attach to this virus into a more positive one, so that when you hear about it, you feel good.

    The way to do it is not by suppressing, but by first completely accepting the negative scenario that you are already subconsciously believing in. Let it surface and feel it fully with no resistance. Let it be. Let it exist. Resistance equals focus on an undesired reality. And focus creates reality. Non resistance will naturally drop this negative focus. Once it is done and the tension is less strong, shift your attention on a better belief, meaning or scenario about the situation. After that, everytime you hear about the virus, remember your new positive beliefs/scenarios/meaning.

    If once in a while fear gets you by surprise again, just acknowlege it as your old self and focus on the beliefs you crafted for your new self. Be the new self. Repeat the process if necessary.

    For example, here's my new belief: It's ok if I get infected by the virus, I have very high chances of surviving. If I die, then it will be because my world wanted me too and I can't do much about it anyways. The truth is my body is energy and by practicing non resistance, I let my body do its job and protect me. The one thing I can do is to elevate my vibration by putting love in my heart instead of fear. Letting my love and non resistance uplift each and every single cell in my entire body, making it almost invincible... THE VIRUS IS AFRAID OF ME AND MY POWERFUL ENERGETIC FIELD... Maybe this pandemic will turn out to be a quite positive thing for humanity, who knows? It's easy to judge when we don't see the big picture...

    This is just an example. Be creative with it, the goal here is to focus you on a positive scenario in the alternative space which you can believe in right now, because THEY are endless.

    Also be careful with your fear of death and disease. I suggest you read books about the afterlife and how people can heal with the power of their minds. Such works will give you higher beliefs which will greatly reduce the excess potential on this type of fear and make you an even more free and powerful human being.✌
    What a GREAT post! Than you Delight! Everyone should read this through it at least twice!

    I think about the number of people that may have been exposed to this virus and fought it off like so many other flu bugs. Myself, I do not get a flu vaccine, I get a flu bug - and often it is only an annoyance. Afterwards, I am stronger!

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    This is upsetting to read. I have no idea how much of it is true.

    https://ufospotlight.wordpress.com/2...mpression=true

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    Quote Posted by Antagenet (here)
    This is upsetting to read. I have no idea how much of it is true.

    https://ufospotlight.wordpress.com/2...mpression=true
    None of it. You can completely disregard it.

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    For someone who lives in Tehran, Iran I haven’t gone outside the house for more than 20 days and that’s why I can’t give anyone any insights about what’s happening outside I’m having fun and watching movies and have been following this thread since the beginning while appreciating everyone sharing their knowledge here, it’s so far so good. I found all the elderberry and oregano and vitamin c and many other spices mentioned here. I don’t see a full blown ghost town yet though the spread of the virus varies depending on which part of town and of course our people have always been ignorant as the only thing we have ran out of is masks. Some can’t quit their jobs or work from home and my heart goes to them but there are still many unnecessary roaming as I hear, even many laughter and talkings outside our house in the street! Government lying? Of course even their own people are dead or maybe lying to escape but thats cause their all illiterate and don’t know how to take care of themselves or the people. I bet we will and do have the worst case scenario but that won’t affect you much if you can self isolate and merge yourself in positive vibes (I’ve been making funny videos about the virus in my spare time). There are claims of many bank workers and nurses dying and that’s so sad I wish they knew more about vitamin c and these stuff going around and I’m trying my best to share. We order food and chicken for my rescue cats maybe once or twice a week and still didn’t welcomed the bug and hopefully not. Well, take care and I’m here if anyone has any questions about things that I maybe know.

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    I confess this made me smile. Nepal has just closed Mount Everest.

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    Quote Posted by Patient (here)
    So they happen to have a vaccine ready at the same time that they begin to shut everything down in North America?
    That video was published on 24 Feb, 3 weeks ago. That's like months ago, in this fast-track situation.

    There's no vaccine, certainly nothing that can be used. Many who report things like this don't have all the info, or don't understand the info.

    Creating a potentially viable vaccine is scientifically the easy bit. After that, even in a crisis, it takes many months or even years to test before any possible implementation. There may very well be vaccine issues with all this, but we're not even close to that happening yet.

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    Quote Posted by Franny (here)
    This tweet is important. It's the same in other countries, too.

    Many politicians and sports personalities worldwide — and even celebrities like Tom Hanks and his wife — are getting tested and turning out positive.

    That means something: of course, they're getting tested because they have influence and no-one's going to say 'No' to them if they ask for a test. But that's not the real point.

    The number turning out positive is the thing to look at. This group of publicly high-profile people is a TINY TINY % of the population. Yet look at the numbers of positives.

    What this means is that the numbers of actual positives in the whole population — if they were all to be tested, which isn't happening — is maybe 100x or even 1000x the currently reported numbers. We all have to confront the fact that this thing is just everywhere.

    I'd predict with high confidence (but some reluctance!) that many more politicians and celebrities will report being infected in the next few weeks. At some point, regular people will start to realize what this means for them.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    If you want me to post my real suspicions, I can. But that's a different topic.

    Regardless of how this started, or any agenda behind it, real people are suffering and will suffer. This is not a Truman Show mirage.
    Bill I would be extremely interested to hear what your thoughts/suspicions are regarding this...?

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    Quote Posted by Franny (here)
    This tweet is important. It's the same in other countries, too.

    Many politicians and sports personalities worldwide — and even celebrities like Tom Hanks and his wife — are getting tested and turning out positive.

    That means something: of course, they're getting tested because they have influence and no-one's going to say 'No' to them if they ask for a test. But that's not the real point.

    The number turning out positive is the thing to look at. This group of publicly high-profile people is a TINY TINY % of the population. Yet look at the numbers of positives.

    What this means is that the numbers of actual positives in the whole population — if they were all to be tested, which isn't happening — is maybe 100x or even 1000x the currently reported numbers. We all have to confront the fact that this thing is just everywhere.

    I'd predict with high confidence (but some reluctance!) that many more politicians and celebrities will report being infected in the next few weeks. At some point, regular people will start to realize what this means for them.
    I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that the current testing is LOADED with both false positives AND false negatives - UNRELIABLE.
    Anything is possible with the proper training.

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    I witnessed the empty isle of TP first hand yesterday in my area at the big box store.

    However the grocery store had full shelves and was busy restocking while we were there.

    I took off work early to get 2 more days in front of these fast-moving events, will know in next few days whether I caught anything or not, but things were still under control in our area on the surface.

    Police were out and visible in shopping parking lots in case any riots or other disturbances started, but things had not yet reached that stage here.

    Spent the most ever in one day on groceries and supplies, now back to our remote location prepared to shut-in for many weeks.

    Am concerned about the news that the virus can survive on cardboard for 24 hours, as I (and countless others) are relying on UPS and Federal Express to deliver various things in cardboard shipping containers over next few weeks - already ordered.
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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Del Bigtree sides with other "alt minds" that the covid19 issue is poorly prioritized (at the very least). Is it worth all the draconian measures employed and all the fallout and the economic destruction?


    I can't help but feel like this is being used as (at least in the US) a means to funnel more money out of the public coffers and to prop up this sick, leveraged economic system. This is the excuse for what was inevitable. I am feeling the energy around this whole event being as thick as molasses. Also, the way this was handled here is meant to induce the most panic possible. One day, everything is great and the next we have to bail out the frigging shale industry who are up to their teeth in leveraged debt. Of course, none of this will stop the CEO's of these companies from walking away with their millions in bonuses.

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