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    Is it possible to use magnesium chloride internally? Can one use milk of magnesia?

    The core message is: Use vitamin D + A!

    Just a quick note - there is a great thread on magnesium water made from Milk of Magnesium Here.

    Also, cod liver oil was a standard tool in the past for flu/pneumonia prevention. It is full of Vitamin D and Vitamin A, plus healthy omegas. Sad how we have been led to totally forget our ancestor's methods, even though they worked.
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    Do I dare to hope that Trump is actually going to do the right thing. Maybe that business acumen will pay off.



    White House coronavirus plan aims to send $2,000 to many Americans, includes $300 billion for small businesses

    WASHINGTON - White House officials are working with congressional Republicans on an emergency stimulus package that could send two $1,000 checks to many Americans and also devote $300 billion towards helping small businesses avoid mass layoffs, according to two senior administration officials.

    https://www.thehour.com/news/article...0-15140061.php

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    Quote Posted by bogeyman (here)
    With the lock down their is less traffic, less carbon emissions also from businesses less nitrogen dioxide also.

    Its less polution. Less traffic to work, less stress in traffic jams...the knock on effects are exponential.

    A silver lining a lot of things that are consideted too hard to do, this has forced our hand, the way of working, travelling, socialising, the internet and new technology could improve our lifestyles and health.
    Also, people are cooking at home, choosing healthier foods, home schooling, becoming more aware of hygiene. All good things.
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    What about price gouging >> https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/2...ves-treatments

    Speechless really..
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    What about price gouging >> https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/2...ves-treatments

    Speechless really..
    They were charging 11.000.00 for a valve that was made by volunteers for 1dollar... I think the masses should sue the original company for highway robbery. And folks wonder why the cost of healthcare is so ridiculous. I don't think suing hero's will be great for their business. I hope we turn over some more rocks to see what is hiding underneath.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Reports from here and there of transporter loads of military wagons etc.
    Not going into to many details or links, here is one of our News Papers.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...y-coronavirus/

    Well the ball's starting to speed up.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

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    Do I dare to hope that Trump is actually going to do the right thing. Maybe that business acumen will pay off.
    to contain the 2008 bailout crisis, Obama give $700 bi to bankers by "Emergency Economic Stabilization Act"

    Trump wants to be re-elected, so I guess he pretends to people see him as a great patriarch of USA.

    The “Families First Coronavirus Response Act” already guarantee free tests for all Americans, including the uninsured, and provide two weeks of paid sick leave for those affected by the health crisis.

    we'll see ..

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    Quote Posted by pacificator (here)
    What about price gouging >> https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/2...ves-treatments

    Speechless really..
    This an update to my post.
    Also the $11000,00 price tag include other equipment not the only printed part.

    Here is the reply from Cristian Fracassi.
    https://m.facebook.com/Ing.Cristian....22339428782713

    Translated to English>>

    Let's give Caesar what belongs to Caesar

    Allow us a note, because the media tam tam that arose after the production of the valves for the respirators that we made with 3D printers is taking a way further and further from the truth.
    First of all, it's true: we received a call, we were told that the valves for the respirators were missing in the Chiari hospital and people were dying. The ordinary way, that of approvvigi series production was not practicable for a simple reason of time.
    What were we supposed to do?
    You know in the movies when someone is about to fall into the ravine? Usually at that moment the protagonist arrives and throws him a rope, but this rope is frayed ... and time runs. We do not believe that at that moment there are many questions about whether the rope is up to standard, or that it belongs to others. At that moment one thinks only of saving who is falling. Then, once safe, with the breath and the adrenaline that falls, you can reason.
    Here, we found ourselves in that situation. There were people in danger of life, and we acted. Point.
    Now, with a cold mind, let's reason.
    First, don't call us, as some have done, heroes. Sure, people were going to die, but we only did our duty. In fact, refusing would not have been a cowardly but a murderous act. Far be it from us.
    Don't call us, as some have done, geniuses. If anything, the genius is Venturi, who has identified the physical principle that we have limited ourselves to applying, as any other engineer would have done. There is no genius in the piece that everyone is talking about, there is only the application of a physical principle.
    But now also allow us to silence words that are flying beyond our intentions, and beyond our control: we have no intention of making a profit on this situation, we are not going to use the designs or the product beyond the strict need that we forced to act, we have no intention of spreading the design. But not only that: in this time when public opinion is very susceptible, we ask you not to throw yourself at anyone. If we have acted quickly, it is only because with 3D printers you can quickly try a small production which, on the other hand, on the industrial scale would be impossible. And finally, let us also say that certain figures that we see are absolutely not true: we do not want to go into detail, because the cost of a piece is not that of the weight of a small pile of plastic: professionals come into play , costs of materials, energy etc. In short, the cost is something complex, but let us keep the secret, and the right does not know what the left does.
    We simply wish that only one thing remained of this story: the community, made up of a hospital, a newspaper, a team of professionals, he ran against time and saved lives. That's all.
    The rest - rights, certifications, costs and controversy - should be silent in the face of the undeniable superiority of the sacred right to life. If you don't share, don't ask us, but the people who - thank God - are still breathing.
    Thanks anyway to everyone for the support. You wrote to me in many, over 2000 I think, I don't know if I will be able to read everything and thank everyone. Let's focus on the real heroes, those who save lives, who do 16 hours of shifts in the hospital and are day and night next to the sick and we praise them. A heartfelt thanks.
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    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    Reports from here and there of transporter loads of military wagons etc.
    Not going into to many details or links, here is one of our News Papers.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...y-coronavirus/

    Well the ball's starting to speed up.

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    An acquaintance of mine has been working in a team grimly named excess death project team that has been putting porta cabins up around north London for expected deaths. The daily mail has reported what they are doing in central London.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-victims.html

    I've also seen various photos of troop movements, armed vehicles, the word is a lot were moved overnight under cover of darkness. At least they are planning for the worst although of course, it is a worry about the whole martial law aspect.
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    There's a schism now between Mike Adams (naturalnews.com) and Alex Jones (infowars.com).

    In the last couple of days, Mike was invited on the show and there was a lot of very interesting, and genuinely respectful, disagreement. But today Mike writes:
    US coronavirus death toll blows past 100, with 7,300 infected while global infections surpass 200,000 … and many Americans still remain in a state of total denial
    18 March, 2020

    Here's an extract, not the full article.

    ~~~
    Prominent conservative publishers, radio hosts and Trump supporters have retreated into a bizarre state of flat Earth-like denialism, now claiming the entire coronavirus pandemic is a grand, elaborate hoax that somehow 100+ nations are faking.

    In fact, the very same people who told you a month ago that the coronavirus was a deadly bioweapon released to achieve global depopulation are now saying the entire thing is a hoax and nobody is dying, they claim. (The doctors and nurses in Italy beg to differ, of course…)

    The websites with the best reporting on all this continue to be Pandemic.news, ZeroHedge.com and TheEpochTimes.com. News aggregation sites with excellent coverage include DrudgeReport.com and SteveQuayle.com. There are also many strong independent writers who are doing great reporting on this, including Daisy Luther and Dave Hodges.

    InfoWars and The Gateway Pundit have gone into full-blown denialism now, and they are both actively reporting that the coronavirus infections and deaths are all faked. The Gateway Pundit’s narrative is starting to mirror communist Chinese propaganda, claiming that China is all back to work now, and everything is under control there.
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    There's a schism now between Mike Adams (naturalnews.com) and Alex Jones (infowars.com).

    In the last couple of days, Mike was invited on the show and there was a lot of very interesting, and genuinely respectful, disagreement. But today Mike writes:
    US coronavirus death toll blows past 100, with 7,300 infected while global infections surpass 200,000 … and many Americans still remain in a state of total denial
    18 March, 2020

    Here's an extract, not the full article. Note that Infowars is no longer mentioned, as it always was in previous updates.

    ~~~
    Prominent conservative publishers, radio hosts and Trump supporters have retreated into a bizarre state of flat Earth-like denialism, now claiming the entire coronavirus pandemic is a grand, elaborate hoax that somehow 100+ nations are faking.

    In fact, the very same people who told you a month ago that the coronavirus was a deadly bioweapon released to achieve global depopulation are now saying the entire thing is a hoax and nobody is dying, they claim. (The doctors and nurses in Italy beg to differ, of course…)

    The websites with the best reporting on all this continue to be Pandemic.news, ZeroHedge.com and TheEpochTimes.com. News aggregation sites with excellent coverage include DrudgeReport.com and SteveQuayle.com. There are also many strong independent writers who are doing great reporting on this, including Daisy Luther and Dave Hodges.
    The problem with people viewing the whole situation objectively is that it has become politicised. Too many people nowadays do not have there own opinions, they don't dare have an opinion that has become associated with an ideology that is not there own. COVID 19 does not care about your politics, people will realise this soon enough.

    People analysing the statistics of this outbreak now and saying it is not that bad is like people analysing the stats of world war 1 after the first battle and saying it wasnt that bad a war. We have a long way to go yet, no one knows yet how this is going to end up but it is better to prepare for the worst, while trying and hoping for the best outcome.
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    UK lock-down expected sooner than you might suppose.
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    The Worst Pandemics in History - What Do They Teach Us?

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    DORJEZIGZAG / I always liked Mike Adams, his knowledge and info in health and natural supplements etc. But of recent his Natural News and Pandemic.news sights are a bit overboard with sensational videos, overblown and inaccurate claims .
    for example, Mike put up a video stating national guard deployed , PEOPLE AT GUNPOINT in New Rochelle NY.
    This is 100 % untrue. My son lives in New Rochelle and things are calm, the National guard are friendly and helpful . There is no gunpoint !

    What has happened to Mike? He is fear peddling now, and even if is facts are true, they will not be received well if he takes this path of sensational and fear driven headlines and verbiage . How unfortunate.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Ive watched this from start to finish, very informative. The David Icke interview re Corona Virus, worth a watch.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    While this may seem ridiculous, it always seems that when an Apocalypse happens, those that remain after the fallout seem to alwaya be in the dessert, scavenging old vehicles and such hahaha. (Mad Max comes to mind)... I wonder if there is any truth to this report?

    It is just over 5 minutes long and it shows how the Corona Virus can be killed with HEAT.. You're blow dryer essentially, if treated properly.


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This video from a virologist citing common sense, hopefully will help to combat the mainstream hysteria:

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    DORJEZIGZAG / I always liked Mike Adams, his knowledge and info in health and natural supplements etc. But of recent his Natural News and Pandemic.news sights are a bit overboard with sensational videos, overblown and inaccurate claims .
    for example, Mike put up a video stating national guard deployed , PEOPLE AT GUNPOINT in New Rochelle NY.
    This is 100 % untrue. My son lives in New Rochelle and things are calm, the National guard are friendly and helpful . There is no gunpoint !

    What has happened to Mike? He is fear peddling now, and even if is facts are true, they will not be received well if he takes this path of sensational and fear driven headlines and verbiage . How unfortunate.
    Yes I think there has been lots of sensationalism from lots of reporters on this situation, probably an element of clickbait in that. I think there needs to be honesty in reporting what has happened but I do think people should be made aware just how bad it can get.

    The situation in Italy is genuinely horrific and people do not seem to be facing that.

    The situation is beggining to be very real for me, my mother has probably got the virus and my son has just told me the exams that he is working so hard towards have been cancelled.

    Not quite sure why you addesed your post to me though because Bill Ryan put up the link to the article?
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

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    Ive watched this from start to finish, very informative. The David Icke interview re Corona Virus, worth a watch.

    `The measures are extreme to quarantine a whole population. It seems to me that despite the fact that many are ill, it may be necessary to triage the well fare of EVERYONE (economically etc.) by just allowing it to run through the population. To prevent an Orwellian state, we may need to seriously question our willingness to die? Are we willing to take what happens... loss of healthcare in the event of a need that cannot be provided and the possibility of dying?



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