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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I think we are still being distracted by the media.
    Discussing how serious the virus is--- important yes but.
    not much discussion on WHY!!!
    Why the extreme measures which are bankrupting healthy businesses -- large and small?
    These get minor reporting -- a few months ago this would have been major news, thousands made redundant allready.
    We will recover from this virus and Im not downplaying it ,but the unemployment will rocket, people will lose their businesses and their homes.
    Very little attention paid to the David Icke videos and point of view.
    Im not a fan but I think he is right on this.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    I think we are still being distracted by the media.
    Discussing how serious the virus is--- important yes but.
    not much discussion on WHY!!!
    Why the extreme measures which are bankrupting healthy businesses -- large and small?

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    In the last couple of weeks (about 5 % or) more than 300 000 people have lost their jobs here in Norway due to the lockdown and one of the biggest hospitals are already seeing ‘too many’ intensive care patients.

    «Masks are strictly for healthcare workers», Norwegian health minister said yesterday (aka admitting national unpreparedness) - throwing away the rest of his credibility.

    A few doctors have tried to warn the public saying we need stricter measures but so far without any luck. In 2009 the Norwegian government was told very clearly that they needed to buy and stock PPE in case of an epidemic. Which they didn’t.

    Some professionals have openly been critical of Sweden’s response which seems to be the opposite of everyone else’s. Sweden is kind of ‘going against the Scandinavian tradition’.


    Mitigation or suppression strategy to combat the virus? According to Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tengell the two strategies are just the same: «I don’t think that the two strategies are different from each other» he says (17:14 min. in below video).

    Here’s a Swedish math teacher talking about Sweden’s strategy:

    Sweden corona report; Why are they not honest about the motives, what is ahead?



    Quote While Sweden takes a unique approach to battling the coronavirus, jeopardizing the entire nation, government officials are caught falsely quoting recent scientific results about corona. Why are they doing that and where is this heading?


    RT article:

    Quote Sweden’s experts have taken a very different view to the UK’s, with their state epidemiologist, Anders Tengell, saying the Imperial College London modelling, predicting 250,000 deaths and informing Boris Johnson’s strategy, is “pessimistic”. The latest numbers in Sweden show nearly 3,500 cases and 105 deaths. Tengell told The Observer: “As long as the Swedish epidemic development stays at this level, I don’t see any big reason to take measures that you can only keep up for a very limited amount of time.”


    The Guardian article:

    Quote Swedish PM warned over 'Russian roulette-style' Covid-19 strategy:
    Health experts ‘deeply concerned’ about Sweden’s response


    The Lancet:

    Quote The initial slow response in countries such as the UK, the USA, and Sweden now looks increasingly poorly judged. As leaders scramble to acquire diagnostic tests, personal protective equipment, and ventilators for overwhelmed hospitals, there is a growing sense of anger. The patchwork of harmful initial reactions from many leaders, from denial and misplaced optimism, to passive acceptance of large-scale deaths, was justified by words such as unprecedented.

    Germany:

    The Battle Begins - Are Hospitals Ready for the Coming Wave of Corona Cases?

    Quote The German health-care system is considered one of the best in the world. But the coronavirus is mercilessly exposing its weaknesses, with some hospitals already facing difficulties. Can Germany prevent the kind of collapse seen in Italy?
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I understood Greybeard is referring to the video of David Icke with Alex Jones where Icke explains how this pandemic is being used. For me he is right and the whole drama could be looked upon as a metaphor how humanity is being spiritually possessed. I say metaphor using an exterior viewpoint but it is of course a very real experience.
    The graph above is not to the point for that questioning.

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    I think we are still being distracted by the media.
    Discussing how serious the virus is--- important yes but.
    not much discussion on WHY!!!
    Why the extreme measures which are bankrupting healthy businesses -- large and small?
    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 31st March 2020 at 13:14. Reason: fixed quote attribution

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    Question Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Here is a recent interview with the Astronomer who theorises that Covid-19 is infact a space virus...

    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    Brothers Of The Serpent

    Dr. Chandra Wickramasinghe

    Published 30th March 2020

    A discussion with Dr. Chandra Wickramasinghe about panspermia and the cosmic origins of life, and how evidence has been building for decades that space itself may contain a "micro-biome" consisting of vast numbers of single-cell life forms and viruses, and that these are constantly raining down upon the earth, changing and affecting life here on the planet, and possibly contributing to evolutionary changes throughout the history of life on earth.

    We also talk about how this cosmic distribution of life in the universe may have caused the sudden onset of plagues and sicknesses throughout history, and that it may be the origin of the current viral crisis the world is facing in the form of COVID19.

    Dr Wickramasinghe's website: https://cosmictusk.com/

    Interview starts @ 3:20

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    https://prepareforchange.net/2020/03...onavirus-panic

    “If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2“


    Hype??

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by vizon (here)
    is there confirmed immunity after infection? why are there reports of some chinese being infected a second time?
    Philippe is correct about 5G, another possibility is that either the initial tests, or the later tests, were incorrect - in this case a false positive. You may have seen in the news that China sent a huge number of test kits to Italy or Spain, I think, which were eventually rejected because they were only 30% accurate...

    We have no idea whether reinfection is possible... Chris Martenson did a video on this a while ago which I have to admit not fully understanding, but basically the immune response of the body to the virus created a different route by which the virus could enter cells.

    In short, if reinfection is possible, herd immunity is not possible, and we are even more trouble than we originally thought. This will become clearer when the testing retains blood samples which can be retested to avoid testing errors. Hopefully reinfection is not possible, asymptomatic transmission (which the mainstream media is STILL not talking about that much...) is bad enough.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Philippe (here)
    Germany had caught my attention earlier on in the Covid Contrarians thread for being ahead with testing
    ( http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1346320 ).
    Now I read in the video of Martenson that they are ahead again with plans to test for antibodies. If someone is tested positive for having antibodies a "Immunity certificate" will be issued allowing people to go back to work and get out of containment.
    This further testing is said to be a huge weapon against the virus. I would add that it may at first sight give a way out of mandatory vaccination being the huge totalitarian risk that is at the horizon.

    Start reading at 37:24 =>

    https://youtu.be/i6Gy9nPAQE0?t=1750

    Edit: I do remember the warning of Waves about testing but we must get rid of evil Bill Gates' suspicious vaccins.
    For quite some time I've considered the very best way to clarify what is really going on and to provide officials and governments the best data to devise viable and informed solutions to the crisis, would be to begin antibody testing on the public. The most obvious demographic to start with would be those who have tested positive, who have contracted the disease, and who have recovered. The second demographic would be those who have tested positive, who have exhibited mild or asymptomatic responses, and who have then tested negative. A third demographic might be those who have tested positive, but have have exhibited no symptoms (this demographic alone would shed tremendous light on what the hell is going on here--which is among the top reasons why I would postulate such a test will never be done) . And the last two demographics would be those who exhibited symptoms but tested negative and everybody else. A sample of 1000 antibody tests among each demographic would provide statistical data that would shed tremendous light on this entire pandemic and tell us all exactly what the hell is going on here.

    I would suggest the Imperial Collage, John Hopkins University, and every other authority is well aware of this. If their motives had anything whatsoever to do with the public interest, with the public health, and with public safety, would already be seeing the results and discussing these antibody statistics.

    Why are we not conducting antibody testing now?

    Sadly, I suspect such testing will never be done--or if it is ever done, it will be well after the facts. The WHO, the CDC, and all other such medical authorities will back peddle (and will endure the criticism of incompetence after the fact) by closing the barn door well after the horse is out of the barn.

    The reason? Because there is a dark agenda afoot. Regardless of the degree to which COVID-19 is real or promulgated (which is an entirely separate issue), David Icke is right on target.

    IMHO, analysis of the antibody data would blow wide open and check in its tracks the agenda of this entire psyop, whatever it is.

    Personally, I suspect such a study would illuminate the following:
    • Demographic one would produce the highest results of antibodies, but not 100%, let's say 70%. This result will confound the so-called "experts" and would confirm and provide scientific evidence of the accuracy of RT PCR testing in the first place, something those executing this psyop would not want us to understand.
    • Demographic two would likely produce a significantly less % of antibodies positives, suggesting many among this demographic never had the disease to begin with and were therefore significantly less at risk than initially believed to spread the disease.
    • Demographic three might produce even less antibody positives--or, alternatively--and here would be the real head scratcher, perhaps the same or statistically insignificant % of positives as demographic one and two.
    • Demographic four and five might produce the highest degree of antibodies of the entire study, suggesting the disease has already been with us, has circulated the globe over, and most of us are already immune. This would suggest COVID-19 is a milder disease than believed, something akin to the flu or a cold, and point to some other bioweapon or something other at play creating the entire pandemic.

    As long as we ignore antibody testing, I am fully on board that this (very real health emergency) is a complete mystery, impossible to understand given faulty and misleading data, and 100% a false-flag psyop.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Caliban (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    An indefinite lockdown only means that no end date is given. It's the same here in Ecuador. The reason? No-one knows (yet) when a lockdown can safely end, epidemiologically speaking. It's all a rolling road, with new data coming in all the time.
    But what "Data" should we trust, Bill? The CDC's? Johns Hopkins', who was part of that Event 201? The WHO? Based on "cases"? Morbidities? We keep coming back to the same thing here.
    Try this... this is also what ends up on the Worldometers daily updates.
    Nothing to do with the WHO or the CDC (or Johns Hopkins, who I'd not trust either). Times given are GMT. Click on each Source link to see more.

    31 March
    • 13:01: 110 new cases and 2 new deaths in Saudi Arabia. (Source)
    • 12:49: First death in Tanzania. (Source)
    • 12:36: 160 new cases and 1 new death in Poland. (Source)
    • 12:39: 204 new cases in Japan, including 78 cases in Tokyo. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 12:29: 65 new cases and 2 new deaths in Puerto Rico, United States. (Source)
    • 12:25: 77 new cases in Croatia. (Source)
    • 12:12: 239 new cases and 13 new deaths in Denmark, including 1 new case in the Faroe Islands. (Source)
    • 12:11: 130 new cases and 3 new deaths in Norway. (Source)
    • 12:08: 1,035 new cases and 20 new deaths in Portugal. (Source)
    • 12:05: 845 new cases and 175 new deaths in the Netherlands. (Source)
    • 12:03: First case in Sierra Leone. (Source)
    • 11:46: First death in Belarus. (Source)
    • 11:08: 538 new cases and 10 new deaths in the Philippines. (Source)
    • 11:01: 136 new cases and 4 new deaths in Romania. (Source)
    • 10:55: 302 new cases and 20 new deaths in Austria. (Source 1, Source 2, Source 3)
    • 10:52: 253 new cases and 34 new deaths in Switzerland. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 10:44: 567 new cases and 18 new deaths in Germany. (Source)
    • 10:02: 3,111 new cases and 141 new deaths in Iran. (Source)
    • 09:35: 6,461 new cases and 473 new deaths in Spain. Compared to the same time yesterday, there were 9,222 new cases and 849 new deaths. (Source)
    • 09:23: 114 new cases and 14 new deaths in Indonesia. (Source)
    • 09:06: 140 new cases and 6 new deaths in Malaysia. (Source)
    • 09:05: 876 new cases and 192 new deaths in Belgium. One of the patients who died was a 12-year-old girl. (Source)
    • 08:45: 501 new cases and 3 new deaths in Russia. (Source)
    • 06:36: 77 new cases in Poland. (Source)
    • 05:53: 136 new cases and 2 new deaths in Israel. (Source)
    • 05:34: Joachim Yhombi-Opango, the former president of the Republic of Congo, has succumbed to coronavirus at a Paris hospital. (Source)
    • 05:01: 127 new cases and 1 new death in Thailand. (Source)
    • 04:45: 72 new cases and 1 new death in Norway. (Source)
    • 04:43: 861 new cases and 32 new deaths in Germany. (Source)
    • 04:41: 59 new cases and 6 new deaths in the Czech Republic. (Source)
    • 04:40: 243 new cases and 6 new deaths in Pakistan. (Source)
    • 04:32: 146 new cases in California, United States. (Source)
    • 04:21: First death in Myanmar. (Source)
    • 04:01: 96 new cases in Victoria, Australia. (Source)
    • 04:00: 54 new cases in Queensland, Australia. (Source)
    • 03:30: 68 new cases in Ukraine. (Source)
    • 03:00: 125 new cases and 4 new deaths in South Korea. (Source)
    • 03:00: 58 new cases in New Zealand. (Source)
    • 03:00: China’s National Health Commission reports 48 new cases across the mainland, excluding Hubei province. All of the new cases originated in a foreign country. (Source)
    • 03:00: 1 new death in Hubei province, China. There were no new cases. (Source)
    • 03:00: 252 new cases and 69 new deaths in Italy. This includes 123 new cases and 46 new deaths in Piedmont Region and 129 new cases and 23 new deaths in Veneto. NOTE: These cases and deaths will be included in Tuesday’s national update. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 01:35: 101 new cases and 8 new deaths in Mexico. (Source)
    • 01:32: 146 new cases and 4 new deaths in Argentina. (Source)
    • 01:13: 29 new cases and 5 new deaths in Alberta, Canada. (Source)
    • 01:11: 86 new cases and 2 new deaths in Panama. (Source)
    • 00:53: 184 new cases and 10 new deaths in Washington state, United States. This includes 66 new cases and 1 new death in Yakima County, 59 new cases and 10 new deaths in Snohomish County, 35 new cases in Tacoma-Pierce County, 13 new cases in Grant County, 9 new cases and 3 new deaths in Whatcom County, and 2 new cases in Kittitas County. (Source 1, Source 2, Source 3, Source 4, Source 5, Source 6)
    • 00:46: 84 new cases in California, United States. (Source)
    • 00:42: 239 new cases and 6 new deaths in Texas, United States. (Source)
    • 00:30: 88 new cases and 2 new deaths in Iowa, United States. (Source)
    • 00:28: 88 new cases in Iowa, United States. (Source)
    • 00:26: 73 new cases and 1 new death in Idaho, United States. (Source)
    • 00:20: 41 new cases and 6 new deaths in Kentucky, United States. (Source)
    • 00:19: 59 new cases in Arkansas, United States. (Source)
    • 00:12: 66 new cases and 1 new death in North Carolina, United States. (Source)
    • 00:10: 94 new cases in Washington, District of Columbia, United States. (Source)
    • 00:06: 66 new cases and 3 new deaths in Tennessee, United States. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 00:03: 320 new cases and 4 new deaths in Colorado, United States. (Source)
    30 March
    • 23:59: 83 new cases and 4 new deaths in Iraq. (Source)
    • 23:55: 169 new cases and 6 new deaths in King County, Washington state, United States. (Source)
    • 23:52: 167 new cases in New York state, United States. This includes 87 new cases in Erie County, 48 new cases in Onondaga County, 17 new cases in Ulster County, and 15 new cases in Monroe County. (Source 1, Source 2, Source 3, Source 4)
    • 23:44: 348 new cases and 1 new death in Israel. (Source)
    • 23:42: 51 new cases and 4 new deaths in Brazil. (Source)
    • 23:40: 844 new cases and 14 new deaths in California, United States. (Source)
    • 23:36: 50 new cases and 2 new deaths in Tunisia. (Source)
    • 23:30: 5 new deaths in Russia, including 4 new deaths in Moscow and 1 new death in St. Petersburg. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 23:14: 634 new cases and 124 new deaths in New York City, New York state, United States. (Source)
    • 23:06: 219 new cases and 13 new deaths in Georgia, United States. (Source)
    • 22:37: 93 new cases and 3 new deaths in Japan. One of the patients who died was a former passenger of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 22:06: 231 new cases and 8 new deaths in Florida, United States. (Source)
    • 21:55: 1,134 new cases and 44 new deaths in Germany. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 21:50: 10 new deaths in Ontario, Canada. (Source)
    • 21:45: 2,674 new cases and 277 new deaths in Spain. (Source)
    • 21:36: 590 new cases and 3 new deaths in Quebec, Canada. (Source)
    • 21:35: First 2 deaths in Saskatchewan, Canada. (Source)
    • 21:35: First death in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Source)
    • 21:34: 487 new cases and 27 new deaths in Switzerland. (Source)
    • 21:00: 191 new cases and 5 new deaths in Denmark, including 13 new cases in the Faroe Islands. (Source)
    • 21:00: 157 new cases and 15 new deaths in Romania. (Source 1, Source 2, Source 3)
    • 20:53: 151 new cases and 2 new deaths in South Carolina, United States. (Source)
    • 20:51: 578 new cases and 2 new deaths in Connecticut, United States. (Source)
    • 20:45: 86 new cases and 2 new deaths in British Columbia, Canada. (Source)
    • 20:18: 180 new cases and 3 new deaths in India. (Source)
    • 20:15: 98 new cases in Peru. (Source)
    • 20:10: 96 new cases and 2 new deaths in Colombia. (Source)
    • 20:07: 418 new cases in Austria. (Source)
    • 20:05: 56 new cases and 5 new deaths in Greece. (Source)
    • 20:03: 443 new cases and 35 new deaths in Brazil. (Source)
    • 20:01: 797 new cases and 8 new deaths in Massachusetts, United States. (Source)
    • 20:00: 87 new cases in Utah, United States. (Source)
    • 19:59: 160 new cases and 2 new deaths in Missouri, United States. (Source)
    • 19:54: 73 new cases and 1 new death in Minnesota, United States. (Source)
    • 19:52: 114 new cases and 1 new death in Rhode Island, United States. (Source)
    • 19:51: 83 new cases and 15 new deaths in Spain. (Source)
    • 19:48: 1,325 new cases and 9 new deaths in Germany. (Source)
    • 19:44: 58 new cases and 3 new deaths in Oregon, United States. (Source)
    • 19:41: 130 new cases and 3 new deaths in Virginia, United States. (Source)
    • 19:40: 280 new cases and 10 new deaths in Ohio, United States. (Source)
    • 19:32: 460 new cases and 7 new deaths in Illinois, United States. (Source)
    • 19:25: 56 new cases in New Hampshire, United States. (Source)
    • 19:13: First 3 cases in Botswana. The three had recently traveled to the United Kingdom and Thailand. (Source)
    • 19:10: 71 new cases and 5 new deaths in Poland. (Source)
    • 19:02: 1,012 new cases and 52 new deaths in Michigan, United States. (Source)
    • 18:29: 295 new cases and 8 new deaths in Ireland. (Source)
    • 18:07: 3,250 new cases and 37 new deaths in New Jersey, United States. (Source)
    • 18:06: 4,376 new cases and 418 new deaths in France. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 18:00: 129 new cases and 8 new deaths in Indonesia. (Source)
    • 17:47: 238 new cases and 3 new deaths in Arizona, United States. (Source)
    • 17:45: 73 new cases and 3 new deaths in Texas, United States. (Source)
    • 17:44: 693 new cases and 10 new deaths in Pennsylvania, United States. (Source)
    • 17:28: 3,075 new cases and 141 new deaths in New York state, United States. Compared to yesterday’s update at roughly the same time, there were 6,984 new cases and 253 new deaths. (Source)
    • 17:27: 485 new cases and 34 new deaths in Louisiana, United States. (Source)
    • 17:23: 1,610 new cases and 37 new deaths in Turkey. (Source)
    • 17:15: 73 new cases and 4 new deaths in Algeria. (Source)
    • 17:10: 156 new cases and 3 new deaths in Malaysia. (Source)
    • 17:08: 95 new cases and 2 new deaths in Finland. (Source)
    • 17:00: 523 new cases and 3 new deaths in Florida, United States. (Source)
    • 16:59: 114 new cases in New South Wales, Australia. (Source)
    • 16:58: 64 new cases in Azerbaijan. (Source)
    • 16:55: 52 new cases and 1 new death in Oklahoma, United States. (Source)
    • 16:50: 77 new cases in Croatia. (Source)
    • 16:49: 88 new cases in Nevada, United States. (Source)
    • 16:40: 446 new cases and 21 new deaths in Portugal. (Source)
    • 16:37: 62 new cases in Wisconsin, United States. (Source)
    • 16:33: 310 new cases and 1 new death in Chile. (Source)
    • 16:32: 158 new cases and 7 new deaths in Georgia, United States. (Source)
    • 16:30: 89 new cases and 2 new deaths in Mississippi, United States. (Source)
    • 16:28: 140 new cases and 1 new death in North Carolina, United States. (Source)
    • 16:27: 351 new cases and 23 new deaths in Ontario, Canada. (Source)
    • 16:24: 174 new cases and 5 new deaths in Maryland, United States. (Source)
    • 16:23: 328 new cases and 36 new deaths in Sweden. (Source)
    • 16:15: 3,899 new cases and 802 new deaths in Italy. Compared to yesterday at the same time, there were 4,050 new cases and 812 new deaths. (Source)
    • 16:05: 125 new cases and 1 new death in the Czech Republic. (Source)
    • 16:03: 137 new cases and 3 new deaths in Romania. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 15:59: 2,743 new cases and 14 new deaths in New York state, United States. All of the new deaths are in New York City. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 15:56: 7 new deaths in the United Kingdom, including 6 new deaths in Scotland and 1 new death in Northern Ireland. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 15:52: 1,048 new cases and 16 new deaths in Germany. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 15:50: 2,619 new cases and 180 new deaths in the United Kingdom. (Source)
    • 15:47: 4 new cases and 84 new deaths in Spain. (Source)
    • 15:00: 272 new cases and 3 new deaths in Indiana, United States. (Source)
    • 15:00: 79 new cases in Poland. (Source)
    • Added 199 new cases and 1 new death in Germany
    • 637 new cases and 27 new deaths in Switzerland
    • 333 new cases and 22 new deaths in Austria
    • 106 new cases and 5 new deaths in Norway
    • 13:49: 302 new cases in Russia. (Source)
    • 13:30: 128 new cases and 7 new deaths in the Philippines. (Source)
    • 12:56: 154 new cases in Saudi Arabia. (Source)
    • 12:00: 884 new cases and 93 new deaths in the Netherlands. (Source)
    • 10:00: 5,085 new cases and 537 new deaths in Spain. Compared to the same time yesterday, there were 6,398 new cases and 812 new deaths. (Source)
    • 10:00: 1,063 new cases and 82 new deaths in Belgium. (Source)
    • 09:36: 3,186 new cases and 117 new deaths in Iran. (Source)
    • 07:21: 195 new cases in Austria. (Source)
    • 07:09: 100 new cases in Israel. (Source)
    • 04:09: 287 new cases and 2 new deaths in Germany. (Source)
    • 06:21: 151 new cases and 10 new deaths in Veneto, Italy. (Source)
    • 06:02: 90 new cases and 2 new deaths in Japan. (Source)
    • 05:52: 98 new cases and 3 new deaths in Tennessee, United States. (Source)
    • 05:14: 136 new cases and 2 new deaths in Thailand. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 04:31: 88 new cases and 7 new deaths in Panama. (Source)
    • 04:30: 1,166 new cases in New York state, United States. (Source)
    • 04:29: 207 new cases and 3 new deaths in Texas, United States. (Source)
    • 04:28: 567 new cases and 9 new deaths in California, United States. (Source)
    • 04:18: First death in Canberra, Australia. The patient was a woman in her 80s who was infected overseas. (Source)
    • 04:13: 127 new cases in New South Wales, Australia. (Source)
    • 04:08: 504 new cases and 1 new death in Washington state, United States. (Source)
    • 03:00: China’s National Health Commission reports 31 new cases across the mainland, excluding Hubei province. All but one of the new cases originated in a foreign country. (Source)
    • 03:00: 4 new deaths in Hubei province, China. There were no new cases. (Source)
    • 03:00: 78 new cases and 6 new deaths in South Korea. (Source)
    • 01:28: 75 new cases in New Zealand. (Source)
    • 01:22: 145 new cases and 4 new deaths in Mexico. (Source)
    • 01:14: 116 new cases in Austria. (Source)
    • 01:12: 177 new cases in Germany. (Source)
    • 00:45: 140 new cases and 11 new deaths in the Dominican Republic. (Source)
    • 00:32: 59 new cases and 4 new deaths in Washington, District of Columbia, United States. (Source)
    29 March
    • 23:47: 98 new deaths in New York City, New York state, United States. One of the patients was a child with underlying health conditions. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 23:14: 469 new cases and 1 new death in Connecticut, United States. (Source)
    • 22:57: 52 new cases in Saskatchewan, Canada. (Source)
    • 22:56: 183 new cases in Tennessee, United States. (Source)
    • 22:52: 82 new cases and 5 new deaths in King County, Washington state, United States. (Source)
    • 22:50: 246 new cases and 3 new deaths in Colorado, United States. (Source)
    • 22:46: 227 new cases and 36 new deaths in Germany. (Source)
    • 22:45: 79 new cases and 4 new deaths in Spain. (Source)
    • 22:41: 182 new cases and 1 new death in Nevada, United States. (Source)
    • 22:30: 704 new cases and 4 new deaths in Florida, United States. (Source)
    • 21:38: 94 new cases and 4 new deaths in Colombia. (Source)
    • 21:37: 52 new cases in North Carolina, United States. (Source)
    • 21:32: 52 new cases and 1 new death in Oklahoma, United States. (Source)
    • 21:18: 164 new cases and 1 new death in Tennessee, United States. (Source)
    • 21:16: 58 new cases in Missouri, United States. (Source)
    • 21:15: 342 new cases in Quebec, Canada. (Source)
    • 21:13: 73 new cases in California, United States. (Source)
    • 21:11: 62 new cases in the Czech Republic. (Source)
    • 21:08: 55 new cases and 5 new deaths in Romania. (Source)
    • 21:05: 71 new cases and 6 new deaths in Brazil. (Source)
    • 21:02: 114 new cases and 1 new death in South Carolina, United States. (Source)
    • 20:55: 698 new cases and 4 new deaths in Massachusetts, United States. (Source)
    • 20:42: 53 new cases in Wisconsin, United States. (Source)
    • 20:28: 1,791 new cases and 27 new deaths in Germany. (Source)
    • 20:16: 1,232 new cases and 196 new deaths in Spain. (Source)
    • 20:02: 93 new cases and 1 new death in South Africa. (Source)
    • 20:00: 1,105 new cases and 18 new deaths in Illinois, United States. (Source)
    • 20:00: 57 new cases and 2 new deaths in Algeria. (Source)
    • 19:38: 57 new cases and 1 new death in Kansas, United States. (Source)
    • 19:19: 102 new cases and 1 new death in the United Arab Emirates. (Source)
    • 19:18: 105 new cases and 1 new death in Texas, United States. (Source)
    • 19:12: 117 new cases in Utah, United States. (Source)
    • 19:07: 836 new cases and 21 new deaths in Michigan, United States. (Source)
    • 19:00: 247 new cases and 4 new deaths in Ohio, United States. (Source)
    • 18:25: 69 new cases in Oregon, United States. (Source)
    • 18:17: 382 new cases and 2 new deaths in Israel. (Source)
    • 18:10: 91 new cases and 2 new deaths in Poland. (Source)
    • 18:04: 2,262 new cases and 21 new deaths in New Jersey, United States. (Source)
    • 17:35: 181 new cases and 2 new deaths in Peru. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 17:33: 146 new cases and 2 new deaths in Arizona, United States. (Source)
    • 17:31: 2,599 new cases and 292 new deaths in France. (Source)
    • 17:17: 55 new cases and 1 new death in Rhode Island, United States. (Source)
    • 17:15: 200 new cases and 10 new deaths in Ireland. (Source)
    • 17:14: 52 new cases and 2 new deaths in Armenia. (Source)
    • 17:13: 161 new cases and 4 new deaths in Brazil. (Source)
    • 17:11: 67 new cases and 9 new deaths in Ecuador. (Source)
    • 17:10: 225 new cases and 14 new deaths in Louisiana, United States. (Source)
    • 17:09: 643 new cases and 4 new deaths in Pennsylvania, United States. (Source)
    • 17:07: 71 new cases and 1 new death in North Carolina, United States. (Source)
    • 17:05: 62 new cases and 4 new deaths in Minnesota, United States. (Source)
    • 16:55: 119 new cases and 3 new deaths in Luxembourg. (Source)
    • 16:52: 70 new cases and 3 new deaths in Wisconsin, United States. (Source)
    • 16:50: 190 new cases and 1 new death in Norway. (Source)
    • 16:47: 74 new cases and 3 new deaths in the Czech Republic. (Source)
    • 16:42: 447 new cases and 18 new deaths in Switzerland. (Source)
    • 16:40: 62 new cases and 3 new deaths in Pakistan. (Source)
    • 16:37: 230 new cases and 1 new death in Chile. (Source)
    • 16:35: 95 new cases and 6 new deaths in Greece. (Source)
    • 16:25: 1,815 new cases and 23 new deaths in Turkey. (Source)
    • 16:17: 5,538 new cases and 84 new deaths in New York state, United States. (Source)
    • 16:11: 5,217 new cases and 756 new deaths in Italy. (Source)
    • 16:07: 205 new cases and 1 new death in Georgia, United States. (Source)
    • 16:06: First death in Uruguay. (Source)
    • 16:05: 211 new cases and 2 new deaths in Ontario, Canada. (Source)
    • 16:03: 95 new cases and 1 new death in Mississippi, United States. (Source)
    • 15:59: 208 new cases in Florida, United States. (Source)
    • 15:59: 1,523 new cases in Germany. (Source)
    • 15:57: 2 new cases and 78 new deaths in Spain. (Source)
    • 15:56: 96 new cases and 4 new deaths in Saudi Arabia. (Source)
    • 15:45: 261 new cases in Austria. (Source)
    • 15:40: 1,543 new cases and 6 new deaths in New York City, New York state, United States. (Source)
    • 15:30: 181 new cases in Maryland, United States. (Source)
    • 15:00: 59 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
    • 15:00: 57 new cases in Iceland. (Source)
    • 15:00: 151 new cases and 5 new deaths in Virginia, United States. (Source)
    • 15:00: 82 new cases and 3 new deaths in Serbia. (Source)
    • 14:59: 282 new cases and 1 new deaths in Indiana, United States. (Source)
    • 14:00: 2,433 new cases and 209 new deaths in the United Kingdom. (Source)
    • 12:27: 133 new cases and 2 new deaths in Poland. (Source)
    • 12:21: 253 new cases and 8 new deaths in Sweden. (Source)
    • 12:21: 56 new cases and 1 new death in Croatia. (Source)
    • 12:00: 1,104 new cases and 132 new deaths in the Netherlands. (Source)
    • 12:00: 198 new cases and 7 new deaths in Denmark, including 4 new cases in the Faroe Islands. (Source)
    • 11:36: 61 new cases and 6 new deaths in India. (Source)
    • 11:30: 792 new cases and 19 new deaths in Portugal. (Source)
    • 11:29: 308 new cases and 4 new deaths in Romania. (Source)
    • 11:12: 163 new cases and 7 new deaths in Switzerland. (Source)
    • 11:05: 130 new cases and 12 new deaths in Indonesia. (Source)
    • 11:02: 150 new cases and 7 new deaths in Malaysia. (Source)
    • 10:50: 1,702 new cases and 78 new deaths in Belgium. (Source)
    • 10:42: 5,565 new cases and 546 new deaths in Spain. Compared to the same time yesterday, there were 6,549 new cases and 838 new deaths. (Source)
    • 10:36: 2,901 new cases and 123 new deaths in Iran. (Source)
    • 10:30: 55 new cases and 2 new deaths in Finland. (Source)
    • 10:18: 65 new cases and 2 new deaths in Hungary. (Source)
    • 10:17: 58 new cases in Bosnia and Herzegovina. (Source)
    • 10:17: 55 new cases and 2 new deaths in Lithuania. (Source)
    • 10:11: 343 new cases and 3 new deaths in the Philippines. (Source)
    • 10:05: 246 new cases and 1 new death in Israel. (Source)
    • 10:00: 51 new cases and 2 new deaths in Tunisia. (Source)
    • 09:38: 79 new cases and 1 new death in Poland. (Source)
    • 09:00: 131 new cases and 18 new deaths in Austria. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 08:55: 81 new cases and 4 new deaths in Switzerland. (Source)
    • 08:52: 99 new cases in Nevada, United States. (Source)
    • 08:48: 62 new cases in Ukraine. (Source)
    • 08:40: 391 new cases and 3 new deaths in Germany. (Source 1, Source 2)
    ...and the list goes back daily for as far as one wants to check out.

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    Here's local news (from Ecuador) about the lifting of lockdowns. The government here has handled this firmly, clearly, and honestly.

    I went into town yesterday, and no-one was allowed in the supermarket without mask and gloves. Assistants with hand sanitizer were at the door. Everything was calm and well-organized, and there were no shortages of anything.

    The enforced curfew here is from 2 pm—5 am (that's 15 hours a day), with strict vehicle restrictions based on the number plate. (I can only drive on Mondays and Fridays, and only with a good reason.) There are no buses, and everything is closed apart from banks, grocery stores, roadside fruit stalls, and pharmacies.

    But the government has been totally transparent, and the people are co-operating. It seems to be working.

    The stats below are nothing to do with the WHO, the CDC (which is American), or any other organization.

    They're from the Ecuadorian government directly to the local media. It's the same in most other countries.
    Optimism grows as new Covid-19 cases trend downward; 80% of cases are mild or show no symptoms; Officials to reevaluate restrictions

    For the second consecutive day, the number of new Covid-19 cases in Ecuador was down sharply. Monday’s count of 42 followed Sunday’s of 89, well below the previous week’s daily average of almost 200. The Ministry of Health also reported that the number of deaths from the virus has risen to 62.

    In a morning press conference, Interior Minister María Paula Romo acknowledged “measurable progress” in the country’s efforts to slow the spread of coronavirus and said the government will reevaluate its emergency health restrictions on April 5. “The country has shown strong acceptance of the restrictions we have placed on personal mobility and I believe this support is showing positive results,” she said. “Ecuadorians understand the seriousness of the crisis and are working together to overcome it. We have a long way to go in this fight but our confidence is growing that our approach is correct and that it will save lives.”

    On the question of when restrictions might be relaxed, Romo said decisions would be made based on the advice of health experts. “The decisions will be scientifically driven and will not be political,” she said, acknowledging that the government is under great pressure to reopen the country. “We will look first at the rural areas where there are limited cases and it is possible that rules will be relaxed there first but, at this point, we are not close to making that determination.”

    She also reported that a review of confirmed cases shows that 80 percent of cases testing positive have no symptoms are mild symptoms. “This gives us a broader view of the impact of the virus on the country, considering that our testing program is limited. We believe the high number of asymptomatic and mild cases is a reflection of the average age of Ecuadorians, which is much younger than in countries such as the U.S., Spain and Italy, where the death toll is very high.” Of all confirmed cases, she said that 191 people are hospitalized with mild to moderate symptoms while 110 are in serious condition. Romo said that as many as 200,000 new tests should be available this week, allowing an expansion of the testing program.

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    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    https://prepareforchange.net/2020/03...onavirus-panic

    “If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2“


    Hype??

    Viking
    Hype, no! But I posted this before but it needs posting again. The Imperial College of London has estimated that millions of people have already had it. In Spain possibly 7 million people. The UK looks like 3%. The media and governments are running away from this, only telling us confirmed cases and deaths.


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    All about masks: this is an interesting article.

    It seems so self-evident that wearing masks helps, it's hard to know what to say. Other than that, of course, some authorities are downright dishonest, the prime reason for the PR being that there just aren't enough masks to go round. But even a bandana will help.
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    Mask mystery: Why are U.S. officials dismissive of protective covering?
    30 March, 2020

    Other nations recommend wearing masks to avoid coronavirus, but the Trump administration has not seen a benefit.

    In recent weeks, facing public uncertainty about coronavirus and a severe domestic shortage of medical-grade face masks, top Trump administration officials offered adamant warnings against widespread use of masks, going so far as to argue that members of the general public were more likely to catch the virus if they used them.

    "You can increase your risk of getting it by wearing a mask if you are not a health care provider," Surgeon General Jerome Adams said during an appearance on “Fox & Friends” earlier this month.

    “If it's not fitted right you’re going to fumble with it,” warned Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar late last month, when asked about N95 respirator masks.

    "Right now, in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks," said Dr. Anthony Fauci, an immunologist and a public face of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, on CBS’ “60 Minutes” earlier this month. He, like the others, suggested that masks could put users at risk by causing them to touch their face more often.

    But as the crisis has played out around the world and intensified in parts of the U.S., reasons have emerged to doubt the wisdom of this guidance, which ranks among the most forceful warnings against mask use by national health authorities anywhere and does not differentiate between medical-grade masks and simple cloth coverings.

    A number of societies where mask use is more widespread, and where mask shortages have been less severe, seem to have had more success containing the virus. Now, some health experts, who say there is no evidence for the claim that masks increase users’ risk of catching the virus, are calling for more widespread use of face coverings in the U.S.

    “Guidance needs to change and needs to be clear that these nonmedical, nonsurgical masks are beneficial to the general public and should be worn when outside of the home," said Robert Hecht, a professor of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health.

    The increasing calls for more use of masks raise the question of whether authorities’ recommendations were based on genuine concerns about spreading Covid-19 or instead motivated by a desire to prevent a run on limited supplies of masks: "Seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS!” tweeted Adams in late February. "They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!”


    A stockpile of masks in France.

    Katie Miller, a spokeswoman for Vice President Mike Pence, who chairs the White House Coronavirus Task Force, referred questions to HHS. Neither the surgeon general’s office nor the HHS press office responded to emails or phone calls requesting comment.

    In response to emails requesting comment from Fauci, Elizabeth Deatrick, a spokeswoman for the National Institutes of Health, referred questions to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    “At this moment, there are no updates or anticipated changes to the guidance,” said Arleen Purcell, a spokeswoman for the CDC, who reiterated existing CDC guidelines that patients with symptoms should wear masks but that people who are well should not wear the masks to prevent contracting the virus. Unlike the verbal warnings from top health officials, the CDC’s written guidance does not suggest that wearing a mask could increase the risk of catching the virus.

    Purcell did not address questions about the assertion that masks could increase users’ risk of catching the virus or whether the CDC was studying coronavirus responses in other parts of the world where face mask use had been more widespread.

    Asked on Monday afternoon about suggestions that mask-wearing could prevent transmissions, President Donald Trump offered a noncommittal response. “We haven’t discussed it, but we could. We are getting the number of masks you need," he said.

    "We will take a look at it.” Trump also suggested that wearing masks might be a way to help people get back to work. “We are not going to be wearing masks forever, but it could be for a short period of time after we get back in gear.”

    The current federal guidance against wearing masks is at odds with that issued in many other parts of the world, such as the Czech Republic, Beijing and Shanghai, where mask use has been mandated for anyone going out in public. A number of East Asian societies, where mask use is widespread — such as South Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore — have reported lower levels of infection than the U.S. has, despite being closer to the source of the outbreak in Wuhan, China. In Taiwan, where reported levels of infection are also relatively low, authorities have called for people to use face masks whenever they are in enclosed spaces, such as public transportation.

    Some Western authorities and public health experts have also begun calling for more widespread use of face masks. On Monday, the government of Austria mandated the use of face masks for anyone entering a supermarket.

    Days earlier, the German Medical Association, that country’s umbrella organization for doctors, issued new guidance on Thursday urging citizens to find a simple fabric mask or make one themselves, and to wear it in public — while forgoing medical-grade masks.

    A group of mostly UK researchers, publishing in the Lancet, a top peer-reviewed medical journal, on March 20, recommended that "vulnerable populations, such as older adults and those with underlying medical conditions, should wear face masks if available. Universal use of face masks could be considered if supplies permit."

    As of Monday, federal authorities were not budging. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Tennessee, said CDC experts were “very loath" to issue recommendations that were not based on robust data.

    But Schaffner, who keeps in touch with government health officials, told POLITICO that the possibility has been broached within the CDC of issuing guidance suggesting the public use “mask alternatives,” while at the same time disclaiming a lack of published studies showing them to be effective for general use in public settings.

    “I do not know how far those discussions have gotten along," Schaffner said.

    He said data suggesting that people could prevent catching the virus by wearing masks in public was “scant.” But he added, “the absence of data doesn't mean the absence of effect."

    Shan Soe-Lin, a lecturer in global health at the Jackson Institute for Global Affairs at Yale University, said there is enough data showing face coverings are effective for use by the general public that people should be using them. "Admittedly, the studies are small,” she said, but there is evidence that “in pandemic settings, masks can be helpful." Soe-Lin and Hecht, who are married and run the nonprofit Pharos Global Health Advisors, authored a Boston Globe op-ed earlier this month that called into question federal guidance and urged people to begin wearing face masks — including basic face coverings like a scarf or bandana — while continuing to prioritize the distribution of medical-grade masks to hospitals.

    As for federal officials’ argument that wearing a mask will cause people to touch their face more often, Soe-Lin said she has looked for studies that back such a finding and found none. Both she and Hecht said that in their personal experience, they have been touching their faces far less often since donning face coverings.

    Schaffner also said he was aware of no data showing that wearing a mask could increase risk by making people touch their face more. He said he was also not aware of data showing that wearing a mask could cause a user to touch their face less often, but he said that in his own personal experience, he, too, tends to touch his face less often when he wears a mask to treat patients.

    Recommendations about the use of face masks have diverged widely from place to place, and can vary based on local availability as well as the type of face mask. Public health authorities both in the U.S. and around the world have called for prioritizing face mask allocation to health care providers and those infected with the virus.

    Mask recommendations are complicated by a number of factors, including the various types of coverings that exist. N95 respirator masks are the most effective in impeding transmission and can filter out smaller particles than other masks. Simple surgical masks are more plentiful but less effective. In some places, handmade cloth masks or simple face coverings like scarves or bandannas are being used.

    Experts say masks are more effective at preventing virus carriers from spreading the disease than they are at preventing healthy users from contracting it.

    But there is no consensus on how effective they are as a preventative measure for healthy people. And it is not yet known how contagious asymptomatic carriers of coronavirus are, further complicating guidelines for infected people.

    "If you mandated that the entire population had to wear a mask when they went out, all those asymptomatic carriers that are now transmitting it through respiratory droplets it would be much harder for them to transmit it," former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Scott Gottlieb said during a video chat interview with The Wall Street Journal last week.

    Recommendations also vary based on categories of people and setting. Experts generally urge health care workers and others caring for infected people to use face masks. Some experts and authorities have gone further, recommending in some cases that older people or others who are especially vulnerable to the virus should wear face masks in public, or that anyone venturing into enclosed spaces — like subway trains — should wear one.

    In general, Western authorities and the World Health Organization have issued guidance calling for more limited use of face masks, while authorities in East Asia have tended to recommend, or mandate, more widespread use of masks.

    That difference echoes a preexisting cultural divide, in which face mask use was already widespread in parts of East Asia, which has been the site of other virus outbreaks in recent decades and is characterized by a large number of dense urban areas.

    In the U.S. — where face masks are rarely seen outside of clinical settings — hospitals have struggled to secure adequate supplies. In February, Azar testified that the federal government had only 30 million respirator masks stockpiled, but that the country needed at least 10 times that number to weather the outbreak. When there are shortages of surgical and N95 respirator masks, as there currently are in the U.S., experts broadly agree that hospitals should have priority in securing such masks.

    But that is a separate question from that of whether masks could be harmful to users, or whether the general public should be using face coverings.

    "Any possible additional protection that we can get and that we can employ,” Soe-Lin said, “I don’t think we should sneeze at that."

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    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    https://prepareforchange.net/2020/03...onavirus-panic

    “If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2“


    Hype??

    Viking


    It is most definitely not the flu.


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    All about Sweden. This Infowars article is by Paul Joseph Watson. All one can really say is that (like Belarus and Brazil!) the outcome of contrarian government policies will soon become clear, one way or another.
    ~~~

    “Like Watching a Horror Movie”: Sweden’s Liberal Approach to Coronavirus Under Fire

    31 March, 2020

    Open borders, no social distancing; Higher death toll than Norway, Denmark & Finland combined.

    Sweden’s liberal approach to coronavirus, which involves zero border controls and a total absence of legally mandated social distancing, is being described as “like watching a horror movie” by residents of other Scandinavian countries.

    Sweden has not imposed the kind of draconian lockdown measures enacted by other European countries.

    People are still allowed to gather in crowds of up to 50, as well as visit bars, nightclubs and cinemas. Borders and schools remain open. Although more people are working from home, life is pretty much as normal.

    “We who are adults need to be exactly that: adults. Not spread panic or rumors,” Prime Minister Stefan Löfven told Swedes in a recent televised address.

    The goal is to slowly infect the population with coronavirus in order to create “herd immunity,” an approach that has been called dangerous by health authorities in other major countries and health experts within Sweden itself.

    This open attitude has caused consternation in neighboring countries like Denmark, which already closed its border with Sweden to stop the export of terrorists and criminals and may now have to do so longer term to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

    “Watching Sweden is a bit like watching a horror movie, we fear it will go bad because it is so very open in Sweden and here it is more closed,” Danish journalist Lisbeth Davidsen told Swedish TV4.

    Polls also show that support for lockdowns in Finland and Norway is almost unanimous.

    It’s too early to tell if Sweden’s “life as normal” approach will make the reactions of other European countries look hysterical in comparison, but the early signs are not encouraging.

    Although the country has recorded just over 4,000 coronavirus cases, 146 people have died, which is more fatalities than Denmark, Norway and Finland combined.

    The graph of total coronavirus deaths in Sweden also shows little sign of reaching a plateau.


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    From Mike Adams, yesterday.

    These statistics do not come from the WHO or the CDC. They come from the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, here.

    One might accuse them of 'lying'. But why would they?

    The figures are also supported by new statistics from Australia and New Zealand.

    The real issue of course is that the virus strikes already-unhealthy people hard. (And some totally healthy younger people, too.) The point is that it's not at all just about age. That's very widely misreported in the mainstream.
    ~~~

    Almost half of those infected with coronavirus in NYC are under 45

    Despite claims that the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) is only really infecting the elderly, the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene has announced that nearly half of all cases have actually been confirmed in people under the age of 45.

    The latest data from this government agency shows that among the roughly 16,000 confirmed cases of the virus in the Big Apple, about 7,100, or 46%, are younger folks. In this under-45 age group, about nine percent have had to be hospitalized, while five have died.

    These figures are a rough match with what Italy is seeing, where a sizeable number of non-elderly people are succumbing to the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19). Both old and young, in other words, are susceptible to it, as it apparently doesn’t discriminate.

    Another thing to keep in mind is that those dying from the coronavirus (COVID-19) aren’t all senior citizens. More than one in five deaths in New York City, it turns out, are in people between the ages of 45 and 64.

    Also similar to what’s taking place in Italy, many of those dying from the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) – some 95 percent – regardless of age, were suffering from at least one underlying health condition before contracting the bug. Several of these cases are currently under investigation.

    Listen below to The Health Ranger Report as Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, discusses how many of those denying that this pandemic even exists are going to be unprepared for what’s coming:

    Pandemic Denialists are unprepared for what's coming. So they invent a Fairy Tale
    https://brighteon.com/embed/22a43c5e...c-5f85967d13cb

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I just read this in a FB post. Perhaps someone more familiar with testing will be able to confirm if this is true.

    Everyone needs to read this. Posted by my trusted friend the level 1 trauma nurse. This is why testing is BS and data is screwed up.
    When it cones to viruses, not only do we have fewer tests than people think but good luck isolating them.
    "The following is from a medical forum. The writer prefers to stay anonymous, because presenting any narrative different than the official one can cause you a lot of stress in the toxic environment caused by the scam which surrounds COVID-19 these days.
    'I work in the healthcare field. Here's the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19. There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus. There are no reliable agencies or media outlets for reporting numbers of actual COVID-19 virus cases. This needs to be addressed first and foremost. Every action and reaction to COVID-19 is based on totally flawed data and we simply can not make accurate assessments.
    This is why you're hearing that most people with COVID-19 are showing nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. That's because most Coronavirus strains are nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. The few actual novel Coronavirus cases do have some worse respiratory responses, but still have a very promising recovery rate, especially for those without prior issues.
    The ‘gold standard’ in testing for COVID-19 is laboratory isolated/purified coronavirus particles free from any contaminants and particles that look like viruses but are not, that have been proven to be the cause of the syndrome known as COVID-19 and obtained by using proper viral isolation methods and controls (not the PCR that is currently being used or Serology /antibody tests which do not detect virus as such). PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.
    The problem is the test is known not to work.
    It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery.
    Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.
    The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.
    And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load.
    If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if a osteogenesis is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you.
    If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis.
    And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen.
    Do you see where this is going yet? If you want to create a totally false panic about a totally false pandemic – pick a coronavirus.
    They are incredibly common and there’s tons of them. A very high percentage of people who have become sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common.
    There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time.
    All you need to do is select the sickest of these in a single location – say Wuhan – administer PCR tests to them and claim anyone showing viral sequences similar to a coronavirus (which will inevitably be quite a few) is suffering from a ‘new’ disease.
    Since you already selected the sickest flu cases a fairly high proportion of your sample will go on to die.
    You can then say this ‘new’ virus has a CFR higher than the flu and use this to infuse more concern and do more tests which will of course produce more ‘cases’, which expands the testing, which produces yet more ‘cases’ and so on and so on.
    Before long you have your ‘pandemic’, and all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn’t actually exist.
    Now just run the same scam in other countries. Making sure to keep the fear message running high so that people will feel panicky and less able to think critically.
    Your only problem is going to be that – due to the fact there is no actual new deadly pathogen but just regular sick people, you are mislabeling your case numbers, and especially your deaths, are going to be way too low for a real new deadly virus pandemic.
    But you can stop people pointing this out in several ways.
    1. You can claim this is just the beginning and more deaths are imminent. Use this as an excuse to quarantine everyone and then claim the quarantine prevented the expected millions of dead.
    2. You can tell people that ‘minimizing’ the dangers is irresponsible and bully them into not talking about numbers.
    3. You can talk crap about made up numbers hoping to blind people with pseudoscience.
    4. You can start testing well people (who, of course, will also likely have shreds of coronavirus DNA in them) and thus inflate your ‘case figures’ with ‘asymptomatic carriers’ (you will of course have to spin that to sound deadly even though any virologist knows the more symptom-less cases you have the less deadly is your pathogen.
    Take these 4 simple steps and you can have your own entirely manufactured pandemic up and running in weeks.
    They can not "confirm" something for which there is no accurate test."

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    Quote Posted by Elainie (here)
    I just read this in a FB post. Perhaps someone more familiar with testing will be able to confirm if this is true.

    Everyone needs to read this. Posted by my trusted friend the level 1 trauma nurse. This is why testing is BS and data is screwed up.
    When it cones to viruses, not only do we have fewer tests than people think but good luck isolating them.
    "The following is from a medical forum. The writer prefers to stay anonymous, because presenting any narrative different than the official one can cause you a lot of stress in the toxic environment caused by the scam which surrounds COVID-19 these days.
    'I work in the healthcare field. Here's the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19. There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus. There are no reliable agencies or media outlets for reporting numbers of actual COVID-19 virus cases. This needs to be addressed first and foremost. Every action and reaction to COVID-19 is based on totally flawed data and we simply can not make accurate assessments.
    This is why you're hearing that most people with COVID-19 are showing nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. That's because most Coronavirus strains are nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. The few actual novel Coronavirus cases do have some worse respiratory responses, but still have a very promising recovery rate, especially for those without prior issues.
    The ‘gold standard’ in testing for COVID-19 is laboratory isolated/purified coronavirus particles free from any contaminants and particles that look like viruses but are not, that have been proven to be the cause of the syndrome known as COVID-19 and obtained by using proper viral isolation methods and controls (not the PCR that is currently being used or Serology /antibody tests which do not detect virus as such). PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.
    The problem is the test is known not to work.
    It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery.
    Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.
    The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.
    And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load.
    If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if a osteogenesis is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you.
    If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis.
    And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen.
    Do you see where this is going yet? If you want to create a totally false panic about a totally false pandemic – pick a coronavirus.
    They are incredibly common and there’s tons of them. A very high percentage of people who have become sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common.
    There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time.
    All you need to do is select the sickest of these in a single location – say Wuhan – administer PCR tests to them and claim anyone showing viral sequences similar to a coronavirus (which will inevitably be quite a few) is suffering from a ‘new’ disease.
    Since you already selected the sickest flu cases a fairly high proportion of your sample will go on to die.
    You can then say this ‘new’ virus has a CFR higher than the flu and use this to infuse more concern and do more tests which will of course produce more ‘cases’, which expands the testing, which produces yet more ‘cases’ and so on and so on.
    Before long you have your ‘pandemic’, and all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn’t actually exist.
    Now just run the same scam in other countries. Making sure to keep the fear message running high so that people will feel panicky and less able to think critically.
    Your only problem is going to be that – due to the fact there is no actual new deadly pathogen but just regular sick people, you are mislabeling your case numbers, and especially your deaths, are going to be way too low for a real new deadly virus pandemic.
    But you can stop people pointing this out in several ways.
    1. You can claim this is just the beginning and more deaths are imminent. Use this as an excuse to quarantine everyone and then claim the quarantine prevented the expected millions of dead.
    2. You can tell people that ‘minimizing’ the dangers is irresponsible and bully them into not talking about numbers.
    3. You can talk crap about made up numbers hoping to blind people with pseudoscience.
    4. You can start testing well people (who, of course, will also likely have shreds of coronavirus DNA in them) and thus inflate your ‘case figures’ with ‘asymptomatic carriers’ (you will of course have to spin that to sound deadly even though any virologist knows the more symptom-less cases you have the less deadly is your pathogen.
    Take these 4 simple steps and you can have your own entirely manufactured pandemic up and running in weeks.
    They can not "confirm" something for which there is no accurate test."
    ~~~

    That's been widely copied around, and was read by David Icke in his most recent broadcast.

    I think this is invented. Because it repeatedly mentioned the virus's DNA. I've highlighted the segments in red.

    But that's quite false. It's an RNA virus. Look it up. There's no DNA in it. Any medical student would know that.

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    Bill, I cannot post in the Thread: "The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]" - have I been blocked from that thread?
    Yes, you have.

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    Bill, do you think it's possible that these tests are as flawed as some theorists are saying? Specifically David Icke?

    Also, do you think it's possible that this virus is, let's say, 10x more contagious than influenza but has the same mortality rate? This would still be catastrophic for the planet, but do you think that's a possibility?

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