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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

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    This disturbing video is self-explanatory. It was re-uploaded two days ago by Sarah Westall.

    https://brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b
    Bill, watch it once without the audio. The reactions of the people do not seem to reflect the dramatic audio. It could be added for sensational purpose. Please be cautious.
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    Really good point, AuCo. You are right. So much to discern, it is mind boggling.
    What if they're desensitized to the gunfire?

    Mod note from Bill: I've removed the embedded Brighteon video (though the correct link is still there), to stop the video playing automatically when the thread is opened. My apologies, but we don't know how to disable that.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

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    This disturbing video is self-explanatory. It was re-uploaded two days ago by Sarah Westall.


    Bill, watch it once without the audio. The reactions of the people do not seem to reflect the dramatic audio. It could be added for sensational purpose. Please be cautious.
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    Really good point, AuCo. You are right. So much to discern, it is mind boggling.
    What if they're desensitized to the gunfire?
    I saw the video with the dead girl and the police car some days ago and it didn't have the explosion sounds on the background... this video is a "sensationalist" edit. The problem is that I can't find the original video now... I saw it probably on bitchute. I will post it here if I find it again. [Note: the two cuts having the explosions are from different sources (different formats) and sound exactly the same... fake.]
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This sounds ominous... "one of every two instances of human-to-human transmission of the new coronavirus is believed to occur while the first patient is not yet showing symptoms".

    Quote Half of secondary virus infections occur in incubation period: study
    Feb 8, 2020 | KYODO NEWS


    At least one of every two instances of human-to-human transmission of the new coronavirus is believed to occur while the first patient is not yet showing symptoms, according to an estimate by a group of Japanese university researchers.

    Based on its determination, the team, headed by Hokkaido University professor Hiroshi Nishiura, has called for preventive measures as well as reinforcing the medical care system against a potential sharp rise in coronavirus patients, rather than focusing exclusively on isolation as a way to contain the disease.

    According to the estimate based on 26 human-to-human infection cases released by six countries such as China, Thailand and the United States, the timing of the secondary infection was shorter than previously thought.

    Although the average period of incubation for the coronavirus originating from central China is believed to be about five days, the researchers found that second patients in more than half of the 26 human-to-human infection cases under study developed pneumonia symptoms within five days.

    The team concluded that these second patients were infected with the virus during its incubation period for the first patients.

    "The findings suggest that it is difficult to contain the illness simply by isolation," Nishiura said. "We need to put more emphasis on prevention of infection for people with high risks such as the elderly."

    "It is also important to prepare the medical care system so that we will not experience confusion even in the event of a greater number of pneumonia patients," he added.

    The number of people with the new coronavirus in mainland China has topped 31,000, with the death toll in the country rising to 636, according to the Chinese government.

    Many countries including Japan are struggling to contain the spread of the disease by isolating infected patients.


    Quote A new paper published on Wednesday in the “New England Journal of Medicine” has sparked an online storm on China’s social media.

    It said the coronavirus started to spread person-to-person in mid-December and evidence of this was clear in early January. But Chinese authorities insist there was no evidence until late January.

    Angry internet users are accusing health authorities of withholding information about the coronavirus. Some of China's top health authorities, including the director of the country's Center for Disease Control, are among the authors of the paper.

    Wang Liming, a biology professor in China, wrote in a post that he was “more than outraged, and literally speechless” after reading the paper, calling it “the first solid proof that human transmission was intentionally hidden from the public.” The professor’s post was quickly deleted.

    The paper also contradicts some of China’s other official announcements.

    It shows that from Jan 1st to 11th, 7 health care providers were infected with the virus.

    However, China’s official notice said on Jan 13th there was no infection among health care providers.

    One post online accused the health officials of “Risking billions of lives in exchange for a chance to publish their paper in a nice journal.”

    Others wrote that “the researchers are also helpless if the authorities don’t allow them to disclose the information.”

    The mayor of Wuhan said in an earlier interview with China state media, that local officials aren’t allowed to disclose information about the outbreak to the public without approval from higher officials. The comment sparked public outrage over officials' blame game and lack of transparency.
    WHO

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by guayabal (here)
    Quote Posted by justntime2learn (here)
    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    Quote Posted by AuCo (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This disturbing video is self-explanatory. It was re-uploaded two days ago by Sarah Westall.


    Bill, watch it once without the audio. The reactions of the people do not seem to reflect the dramatic audio. It could be added for sensational purpose. Please be cautious.
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    Really good point, AuCo. You are right. So much to discern, it is mind boggling.
    What if they're desensitized to the gunfire?
    I saw the video with the dead girl and the police car some days ago and it didn't have the explosion sounds on the background... this video is a "sensationalist" edit. The problem is that I can't find the original video now... I saw it probably on bitchute. I will post it here if I find it again. [Note: the two cuts having the explosions are from different sources (different formats) and sound exactly the same... fake.]
    Here is a copy of the last cut of the video without the explosions:

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This disturbing video is self-explanatory. It was re-uploaded two days ago by Sarah Westall.

    https://brighteon.com/7f4a859c-d44e-4a02-99f4-6f88dc41c72b
    This video is misleading. It's made from 3 different video sources from different places.

    1. First video is about Police in Guanghan city in Deyang, Sichuan province capturing a Fugitive in Chong Qing city. The fugitive killed a security guard of a primary school back in 2001, June 22th. The police in Guanghan city heard from police in Chong Qing city that the fugitive is having a fever, so they are wearing protective clothes.
    For more information: https://sichuan.scol.com.cn/ggxw/202001/57463359.html
    https://twitter.com/caincc/status/1223675682435153920

    2. The second video (from 21s) is doctors and nurses checking people who died at home. The sound is not gunshots but fireworks. Considering it's rural area during chinese new year, it's pretty common.
    A lot of people died at home not only in Wuhan city, but Hubei province. A lot of people can't be admitted to the hospitals because there is not enough beds, medical staff and medical resources.
    I was told by my mum that friend of her friend who lives in Wuhan died because she couldn't be treated in Hospital.
    What is happening right now in Wuhan and Hubei is a humanitarian crisis.

    3. Third video (after 39s) I searched it by the characters on the white car: 黄梅县五祖镇卫生院 (which indicates the place).
    Rumours are someone killed because he was trying to pass a roadblock, so the police shot him dead. It's not true.
    The locals in that place said there was a car accident a few days ago.
    It's two underaged guys driving motorcycles too fast. The one who was driving the motorcycle died and the other one was sent to the hospital.
    More: https://twitter.com/RyPllPIchQEmrP1/...56917583908864

    Mod note from Bill: I've removed the embedded Brighteon video (though the correct link is still there), to stop the video playing automatically when the thread is opened. My apologies, but we don't know how to disable that.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

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    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    Latest from Lisa Haven... heading a bit dramatic but copied and pasted

    “100 BODIES A DAY” SAYS CORONAVIRUS CREMATORIUM INSIDER! ACCIDENTAL LEAK YOU NEED TO HEAR!

    https://lisahaven.news/2020/02/100-b...-need-to-hear/

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    Chinese treat their dead with much respect. They prefer proper burial, though from some reading, especially in bigger cities lately, roughly half will choose cremation. Still, it strikes me as odd that they would let their dead be cremated in some whole sale crematorium where they could burn 100 bodies a day at full capacity. Weird things going on nowadays.

    Yes we do, the burial is so important in our culture. However, because the dead bodies carries Coronavirus, it's leaving people without choices.
    Here is a girl crying and saying mum after a car from CREMATORIUM : https://twitter.com/RFA_Chinese/stat...13469536808960
    It makes my heart broken seeing people couldn't say goodbye to their loved ones.

    "After she was put into an observation ward on Jan. 11, I wouldn’t see her again until I picked up her ashes 11 days later." http://www.sixthtone.com/news/100514...life-and-death
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]



    This is about the number of medical staff infected with coronavirus in 13 hospitals, the third column is the number confirmed.

    "Li Ting was an emergency room nurse in Wuhan kept fighting to CoA in the frontline. Unfortunately, she was infected with CoA. Her husband, Hai Tang, is one of the cameramen in Wuhan division of Ergeng. He uses his camera to record the days he and his wife fight with CoA. He also would like to use the videos recorded to encourage all patients."

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    YuHui/ I agree the shots fired don't make sense with the rest of the video. We are in a real crossroads today. No one can believe anything, yet we must believe something. Tech and our human beliefs and emotions are now intertwined. No one believes anything anymore. Is this good? or will this lead our collective downfall?

    i grew up learning, pictures don't lie. well, today they often do. we must do our best.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This outbreak is hurting people and being concerned is certainly not "racist"



    Whistle blowers face serious repercussions

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    From earlier today, Trump's coronavirus task force holds a briefing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R567FgtNgnQ

    It was mentioned that the CDC has a working relationship with the CDC in China, but if so, neither group seems to be sharing much information.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Humanitarian Crisis unfolding. This channel has many translated videos of conditions in China.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYa...yR5dsGw/videos




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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    It is severely effecting hospital workers.



    There is significant nosocomial infection. But people in China are being forced to go to containment centers and this is just unbelievably horrible IMO.

    Quote 2) In addition to 29% medical staff, 12% of patients had gotten #coronavirus as hospital-acquired🦠. Quote: “Hospital-associated transmission was suspected as the presumed mechanism of infection for affected health professionals (40 [29%]) and hospitalized patients (17 [12.3%]).”
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    3) Astute readers added 29%+12% and asked if it means 41% of the 138 patients got 🦠 as a hospital-acquired infection... yes but maybe not one’s personal risk walking into a hospital. 12% maybe weak/susceptible, and 29% medical staff have much closer contact than normal patients.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I’m sorry to say this much in open but there are times and there will be times yet when we all have to go back to school.
    If you want to discuss causes and conditions of this and similar humanitarian disasters, the roots are lack of good education, information and generally an ignorance.
    The Universe neither this world are “status quod”.

    This planet is inhabited by trillions of viruses some of whom can turn lethal. There is so much we can learn, so much we don’t know yet about every living species on this planet.
    People who keep telling you they know it all because them and their ancestors reached some kind of “enlightenment”, “ultimate insight” or consensus with nature can turn to dangerous/risky people at any times.
    Most of them prefer to discuss politics but know very little about biology of viruses or that of their own.

    The biology part is extremely interesting and relevant but that’s when you have to go “back to school” and study more about coronaviruses( in this case),
    what’s their unique biological make up, what way many of them evolved enzymatic complexes in order to avoid and surpass immunity barriers of the host.

    Stop making fun of innocent people.

    There’s a lack of information and education behind all this horrendous scenery and I can assure you it would not be that much better in other parts of the world either,
    despite the situation in rural China being still notoriously suppressed and somewhat illiterate.
    Of course: people who barely know to read and write beyond their language, most of them barely reading local news won’t read scientific journals easily.
    So true for people all over the world.

    80% of those people will go for “local remedies” as target antivirotic medicines are either unknown or associated with high costs and generally unavailable outside of medically communities and specific research centres.

    There’s still good 40% people who did not surpass the “ideology barrier” because their grandparent generations denied “germ theory” in favour of “Gods equation”.
    Their religions and ideologies put them( THE HUMAN ) on the top of the list.
    They preach that you can live and die by that faith and conviction alone.

    They “don’t need to wash hands” and do the rest of the chores. They will just sit and wait( in better case) how it doesn’t happen to THEM.
    Because when it does, it’s late to cry wolf for any of those people.

    They’re not ready to study life, learn about it, so sad. So sad and cynical , I’ve seen some of these “big kids” in their 40s or 30s even,
    their brains reached a “closure” and they can’t study a chapter from anatomy atlas.
    It would “hurt” their brain it seems.

    But they will keep arguing forever about the philosophy of it all not being right and how they will become “leaders by principle”. Leaders who know nothing about human biology ?
    Leaders of drones ? No, thanks.

    I also don’t believe things or creatures I don’t understand but that’s why studying is so important everyday. Self study yes, if you’re not part of university program then study more, keep your brain busy, control your ignorance.

    Sure this situation is transient but if it concerned humanity in total every first grader would be able to recite the morphology and chemistry of coronavirus.
    And in next generation, they most probably will because it’s part of our life here.

    There’s so much worthy research information available on the internet it’s shame if people skip it. There were times any of this was kept almost secret or hard to access.

    Things like “most viral transmissions occur before developing symptoms” will stop shocking you because you would understand it’s logical. You need to understand about “incubation period” and your vs viral chemistry,
    depending on temperature and the rest of your biological condition.

    I wish that situations like this will make millions of people think beyond their dogma and “culture customs” such as consuming all kinds of living creatures here,
    due to global biological contamination the process is growing risky as time will progress.
    The danger of cross-species contamination with bacterial and viral contaminants and that between both subterranean, marine, aquatic, land animals and humans, aerial contamination from ocean to atmosphere and land to atmosphere is very pronounced now and the “soup” will get more mixed in future.

    Don’t tell your children “in our times” we did not need or do this n that.

    They don’t have the choice now. Hygienic needs will grow with humanity growth and expansion. There is no “simple world out there” and “life under trees” anymore.
    There’s isn’t any way of going back to it.

    There isn’t any way with pushing someone to primitivism and cult like faiths even if many are susceptible to such desperate measures.

    People don’t “have to be dying”.

    If you want to know, study more about the marvel of life. Your empty doubts like empty faith, all empty.

    Thanks to the brave

    🙏🌟🙏

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    do you have any practical solution advice?
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    apologies if this has already been posted , will need the subtitles verified but if this is true a mention of wuhan being the epicentre of an anti communist rebellion ? is this a deliberate extermination ? ( fish in a barrel)rebellion reference at 6:55
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    apologies if this has already been posted , will need the subtitles verified but if this is true a mention of wuhan being the epicentre of an anti communist rebellion ? is this a deliberate extermination ? ( fish in a barrel)rebellion reference at 6:55
    Hi - I’m thinking he was referring to this Sun Yat-sen (sourced from Wikipedia) -

    Sun Yat-sen (/ˈsʌn ˈjætˈsɛn/; born Sun Wen; 12 November 1866 – 12 March 1925)[1][2] was a Chinese philosopher, physician, and politician, who served as the provisional first president of the Republic of China and the first leader of the Kuomintang (Nationalist Party of China). He is referred as the "Father of the Nation" in the Republic of China due to his instrumental role in the overthrow of the Qing dynasty during the Xinhai Revolution. Sun is unique among 20th-century Chinese leaders for being widely revered in both mainland China and Taiwan.[3]

    Sun is considered to be one of the greatest leaders of modern China, but his political life was one of constant struggle and frequent exile. After the success of the revolution in which Han Chinese regained power after 268 years of living under the Manchu Qing dynasty, he quickly resigned as President of the newly founded Republic of China and relinquished it to Yuan Shikai. He soon went to exile in Japan for safety but returned to found a revolutionary government in the South as a challenge to the warlords who controlled much of the nation. In 1923, he invited representatives of the Communist International to Canton to re-organize his party and formed a brittle alliance with the Chinese Communist Party. He did not live to see his party unify the country under his successor, Chiang Kai-shek in the Northern Expedition. He died in Beijing of gallbladder cancer on 12 March 1925.[4]


    I wonder how much more the people of Wuhan can take though, human beings can only take so much and I’m amazed at how well they’ve endured so far. Such a beautiful young man, we all do our thing (our missions, help out where we can etc.) but I wish there was something more we could do for everyone like him.
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    My community was locked down 2 weeks ago, You can smell the disinfectant in the air. Everybody wearing mask, the security guy wearing eye goggle and raincoat.....got your body temperature checked each time while entering the community or go to supermarket.......this reminds me of many sci-fi movies from the 80s and 90s....

    ...Business and school are shutdown, no travling allowed. People feel anxious, they need to pay their debt and rent.

    The whole society is mobilized to hunt down people who was from Hubei province especially from Wuhan, they are building more quarantine centre throughout the country.

    I knew this coronavirus outbreak about 2 months ago, watching the status picking up slowly. I've seen HongKong and Japan has few cases meanwhile China only reported Wuhan cases, how could this be ? They faked the number as usual till it totally lost contorl.

    Hospitals in Wuhan ran out of everthing masks, protective suits, medicine, body bags and everything, medical staff under nervous breakdown. It's a big mess. They don't even have enough of test-kit to diagnosis.
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    That is an interesting Logo in your Avatar space. Are you connected to the military in China?
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    That is an interesting Logo in your Avatar space. Are you connected to the military in China?
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    No, i am not related to militray, it's just my puppy.
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