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    From the maniacal manner in which vaccines are being pushed in spite of inherent and blatantly deadly dangers, my feeling is that the big virus scares and the massive amount of misinformation that has been spread about viruses (see articles following from Jon Rappaport, who is a reliable source and has been researching all this for a long time), my feeling is that part of population culling agenda's modus operandi is to create a lot of fear of viruses in order to persuade people to keep getting their flu shots, which in comparison are much more deadly, though it may take a while before the vaccines (live viruses, toxic adjuvants, fetal tissues, etc.) sicken and kill.

    Man who pushed SARS dud now pushing new Chinese virus
    Jan 24 2020
    by Jon Rappoport
    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020...chinese-virus/

    "First, a few updates. Things are moving fast.

    The Chinese government has locked down Wuhan, a city of 11 million people, owing to the “threat of the coronavirus.” There are also travel restrictions in several other Chinese cities. What does all this prove?

    Answer: Nothing.

    It proves the Chinese government wants to install tighter controls. It doesn’t lead to the conclusion that a coronavirus is making people sick or killing them.

    During the so-called Zika Virus crisis of 2016, women in several countries were told not to get pregnant, because the virus might cause brain damage in their babies. That was a form of lockdown, too. If it were instituted for good reason, we would now be seeing massive numbers of babies all over the world born with microcephaly (smaller heads and brain damage), as the virus spreads. We aren’t seeing that. I covered the Zika story extensively, and proved it was a scientific fraud. A dud.

    The measures government authorities enact do not constitute proof of a harmful virus. Otherwise, presidents and kings could write science all day long simply by issuing orders.

    We are now seeing photos of “people lying in the street” in Wuhan, and perhaps other Chinese cities, so-called victims of the coronavirus. What does this prove?

    Answer: Nothing.

    So far, I’ve seen pictures of four or five people lying in the street or on a hospital floor. In a city of 11 million people. If this, all by itself, were proof that a new coronavirus is a killer, then Los Angeles and New York—with their homeless street populations—would have no people left.

    The text of a patent for a coronavirus is circulating wide and far on the Web. What does this prove?

    Answer: Nothing.

    Patents for many viruses are obtained all the time. More specifically, these patents discuss ways of weakening viruses or extracting material from them for the purposes of developing vaccines. I’ve read excerpts from two different coronavirus patents, one in the US and one in the UK. They both refer to vaccine development. They aren’t, as some people assume, slam-dunk evidence that researchers are cooking up a virus in a lab or weaponizing it.

    Well, here is a comforting development. The Chinese researcher, Zhong Nanshan, who “discovered the SARS virus” in 2003, is now at the forefront of pronouncements about the “new coronavirus” that is shaking up China and other parts of the world.

    His mere presence on the scene is a warning sign: take a grain of salt, try a pound.

    Zhong Nanshan’s 2003 SARS “pandemic” was a dud. A WHO (World Health Organization) advisory against traveling to “infected” Toronto cost merchants in the city several billion dollars. Meanwhile, a Canadian WHO biologist, Frank Plummer, told the press he was shocked by the fact that fewer and fewer SARS patients had the virus in their bodies. Actually, “fewer and fewer,” he said, was approaching ZERO. Hoax. THE PURPORTED CAUSE OF THE DISEASE WASN’T THERE. People had ordinary flu symptoms.

    What do you do when this sort of embarrassment occurs? Do you confess the whole business was a mistake or a con or a hustle? Do you own up to the fact that, when people are said to be suffering from ordinary flu symptoms, and you’re calling it a new disease with a new cause, you’re wrong and you’re very, very, very sorry? Do you point out that people who don’t have the cause of a new disease in their bodies don’t have the new disease?

    Of course not. You just move ahead and pray no one notices.

    When you claim the grand death total from the SARS “epidemic,” worldwide, is 800 out of seven billion, and you can’t even prove those 800 died from the “SARS virus,” do you, the World Health Organization, admit your whole program of epidemic detection is a fraud? Do you pay Toronto several billion dollars for their troubles?

    Of course not. You keep calling SARS an epidemic forever. You write fake histories. You do whatever is necessary to maintain your phony reputation.

    And when a new possible-maybe-could-be virus surfaces in China, now, you bring the same researcher who “discovered SARS” out of mothballs, and you put him front and center.

    Here’s the capper. Read carefully. The World Health Organization claims that, every year, there are between three and five million cases of ordinary run-of-the-mill flu in the world, resulting in 290,000 to 650,000 deaths. The symptoms are indistinguishable from SARS. But for some reason, they don’t declare ordinary flu an ongoing epidemic. No, they choose SARS, for which the cause is absent—and they call THAT an epidemic. It caused 800 deaths, versus 290,000-650,000 deaths.

    Does this make any kind of sense? Actually, it does, if they want to: increase control over the population; condition them to expect and pray for a (watch-out TOXIC) vaccine to save them; shoot up pharmaceutical profits; scare the pants off people; induce them to willingly accept greater surveillance wherever they go; step up police and military presence; enact quarantines; hypnotize populations with the idea that they’re lifelong patients under the supervision of the medical cartel; teach “safety and security” above freedom.

    Just realize how right and good and true THE AUTHORITIES are, get down on your knees and thank your lucky stars they’re here protecting the health of everyone on the planet. They’re the Church of Biological Mysticism, and they want you as a devoted member.

    Amen."

    Also see: China virus epidemic—the Gong Show on roller skates
    Jan 23 2020
    by Jon Rappoport
    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020...roller-skates/

    "You automatically believe this Chinese coronavirus is a killer? You automatically believe the press when they ratchet up the fear? You automatically believe medical experts have found a virus and proved it’s causing human illness?

    You’re on the Gong Show on roller skates.

    Congratulations.

    The Chinese government has now shut down transportation in the huge city of Wuhan, where the supposedly deadly coronavirus first surfaced a few months ago. Where? At an open air fish and meat market. Anyone looking into contaminated flesh at the market? Dangerous lack of sanitation? They’re looking into “the virus.” Naturally. And as I keep saying in past and recent articles, we have a massive tradition of FAKE EPIDEMICS.

    You have to understand: most people don’t want to hear this. It’s rather astonishing. Most people feel compelled to believe in the virus, believe it’s dangerous, it’s a killer, it’s real, it’s a global threat. Pro-vaccine people, anti-vaccine people, it doesn’t matter. They salute THE VIRUS.

    In my last article, I detailed how former “epidemics,” SARS (coronavirus) and Swine Flu, turned out to be complete fakes. Eventually, it leaked out that medical experts couldn’t find the virus in people. You should really read that article, and read it again. And think about the implications.

    Medical research honchos and the press are still calling the 2003 SARS dud an epidemic. Official stats indicate 800 people died, worldwide. If that’s an epidemic, there are pink tigers walking around on the far side of the moon.

    Now, when they talk about rushing a vaccine into production “against the virus,” that’s a whole different story. They tried that in 2009 with Swine Flu, and it caused profound and horrific results. I’ve read the patent info that’s now circulating on the Web—for a vaccine against a coronavirus. It’s hard to tell, but it could be a DNA vaccine. If it is, that means the vaccine will permanently alter the genetic makeup of anyone who takes the shot.

    Here’s something else you should think about. The so-called origin points of epidemics. SARS (2003), the Amoy Gardens apartment complex in Hong Kong. Swine Flu (2009), a giant commercial pig farm in La Gloria, Mexico. And now, in 2020, the Chinese coronavirus, an open air animal and fish market in Wuhan.

    At the Amy Gardens complex, there were leaks in the pipes. Human waste was leaking. People were falling ill. My, what a surprise. They needed to call in a plumber, not the World Health Organization virus hunters.

    At the pig farm, in La Gloria, huge feces lagoons, yes, were lying there out in the sun. The lagoons were routinely sprayed with toxic chemicals. Workers were falling ill. What a shock. So they brought in people to spray even more toxic chemicals on the pig **** lagoons. They needed a major environmental clean-up. Instead, they got World Health and CDC virus hunters.

    And now, in Wuhan, the virus hunters are at it again. They want to test the animal flesh at the market for viruses. Here are a few recommendations. Check the water supply in the market. Is it dirty? Check the refrigeration. Are the fish and animal meat always fresh? Is the place clean? Is it washed down well every day? Actually LOOK at the premises. I know, it’s a revolutionary act, but steel yourself and go ahead.

    “Yes, but what about the other cases of the China coronavirus that have been identified in other countries? Where did they come from?”

    Answer: How do you know these other cases are a result of the coronavirus? The symptoms in most of these fake epidemics are the same—they’re basic flu symptoms—fatigue, fever, cough, weakness. A person could come down with THAT for a hundred different reasons.

    I started writing about viruses that were never proved to cause human illness—or weren’t even there to begin with—in 1987. All these years later, I find myself still doing it. Why?

    BECAUSE ‘THE VIRUS’ IS THE GREATEST COVER STORY ON THE PLANET. IT ATTRACTS BELIEVERS FROM WALL TO WALL.

    Professionals invoke it to cover up a multitude of crimes.

    For example, in parts of Africa, where the water supplies are contaminated to the hilt, where people are hungry and dying of starvation, where people have chronic diarrhea and are dying from dehydration, where extreme poverty and war for economic gain are routine, where corporate interests are stealing farm land from the people and poisoning the environment, where toxic medical drugs and vaccines are killing people whose immune systems are already compromised—you can ignore all that because…the real problem, the one serious problem, you see, is:

    THE VIRUS.

    Sure. Pump up that story to the max, get medical testimony, research money, the whole insane apparatus, and paint over what is actually happening there, and you’re in. You’re in control. You’re king.

    Believe in the virus. Pray to the virus. Fear the virus.

    —Here is a backgrounder I wrote some time ago that will add clarity on fake virus epidemic operations:

    The big one: how environmental killing becomes a medical disease

    The giant pig farm disaster: a medical hoax and cover story

    The full truth has never been told—until now.

    by Jon Rappoport

    January 18, 2017

    “To handle all that [pig-farm feces] waste, farmers in North Carolina use a standard practice called the lagoon and spray field system. They flush feces and urine from barns into open-air pits called lagoons, which turn the color of Pepto-Bismol when pink-colored bacteria colonize the waste. To keep the lagoons from overflowing, farmers spray liquid manure on their fields nearby. The result, says Steve Wing, an epidemiologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, is this: ‘The eastern part of North Carolina is covered with ****’.” —National Geographic, 10/30/14

    The above quote describes corporate pig farming around the world.

    In order to carry out this operation, giant companies like Smithfield have influenced legislators and government-agency officials. Environmental laws and regulations are ignored, or changed. Lawsuits are fought, hammer and tongs.

    Here is what Robert F Kennedy Jr. told radio interviewer, Rachel Lewis Hilburn on 6/3/16:

    “…a hog produces ten times the amount of fecal waste by weight as a human being, so if you have a facility that has ten thousand hogs in it, it’s producing as much sewage as a city of a hundred thousand people. Smithfield has one plant in Utah—they call it Circle Four Farms—that has a million hogs on it, so it’s producing the same amount of waste as New York City every day.”

    Here is Kennedy’s kicker:

    “There’s no difference between hog waste and human waste in terms of its danger to human health. They [Smithfield and other giant corporate pig operations] ought to have to have a sewage treatment plant that cleans it up. And yet, if they had to build that sewage treatment plan, it would drive the price of hogs up so that they could no longer function in the marketplace… they ought to have to build sewage treatment facilities but nobody’s making them do that because they have used political clout…”

    All right, that’s a bit of background. Now I’m going to shift to the subject of Swine Flu, the phony epidemic of 2009.

    Where did it start?

    At a Smithfield pig-raising operation in Perote, Mexico; in a village called La Gloria. Smithfield raises 950,000 hogs a year there.

    Press reports described outdoor “pig feces lagoons” on the property. When workers began to get sick, the area was sprayed with unknown chemicals. More workers fell ill and died.

    Anyone with a basic knowledge of public health could testify that this combination of mind-boggling (non-) sanitation, plus strong germicides, plus other toxic chemicals routinely dumped in the feces lagoons, could and would cause human disease.

    In fact, it doesn’t matter which particular germs are present in the mix.

    People at the CDC had to be well aware of this. Yet, in 2009, their choice was to rush researchers to the Smithfield operation in La Gloria, Mexico, armed with the unfounded assumption that some novel virus, never before seen, was the culprit, and their job was to take blood samples and discover what the new germ was.

    Why? Why assume, when workers who operate in that kind of environment get sick, there is some new disease at work? The symptoms of the workers were not unusual, given the circumstances.

    Workers dying in that vat of filth and chemical soup should be expected.

    But, up front, based on no evidence, the CDC on-site team was going for a new germ and a new disease, and that’s what they announced they had found. A gullible world, fed by press reports, bought in.

    And that’s how the fake epidemic called Swine Flu was launched.

    All the focus that could have centered on the highly toxic Smithfield pig operation in La Gloria was diverted.

    Diverted to a virus.

    H1N1 it was called. The Swine Flu virus.

    Suddenly, it was a medical problem. Not an environmental disaster.

    It was RE-INVENTED as a medical problem.

    If you don’t yet get what I’m pointing out here, imagine this:

    You’re living in an old sewage tunnel under a city. You’re surrounded by human excrement and biting insects and fetid waste water and foul air—and when you fall ill, you suddenly see virus-hunting researchers, not haz-mat rescue workers, approach you and take blood samples. Are they crazy?

    No, they’re just doing what their bosses tell them to do. Because the CDC is fronting for, and protecting, major corporate agricultural criminals. Because your illness has to be shifted over to a “new disease and a new virus.”

    On top of all this, the virus that these “researchers” do find, which, by the way, is in no way proven to cause disease, can be found all over the world. Why? Because it’s been around for a long, long time, and it has never caused any dire condition at all.

    This is how the game works.

    This is the medical hoax.

    In the case of Swine Flu, it gets worse. It turns out that the virus is not so prevalent after all. That is why, in the early autumn of 2009, CBS reporter Sharyl Attkisson discovered that the CDC, ignoring its mandate and charter, had secretly stopped counting Swine Flu cases in America. You see, the overwhelming percentage of blood samples taken from the most likely Swine Flu patients, when sent to labs for testing, were coming back with no trace of the so-called Swine Flu virus or any other flu virus. CBS put Attkisson’s published report on the shelf and never followed up on it.

    Again, the virus as the cause of illness, was the cover story. Intelligence agencies float cover stories on a regular basis. It’s no accident that CDC has a large unit of virus hunters called the Epidemic Intelligence Service.

    Right off the top, I can tell you they create disinformation on a scale that must make the CIA jealous.

    Graduates of this EIS program, as proudly stated by the CDC, have gone on to occupy key positions in the overall medical cartel: Surgeons General; CDC directors; medical school deans and professors; medical foundation executives; drug-company and insurance executives; state health officials; medical editors and reporters in major media outlets.

    It’s a loyal insider’s club. They collaborate to float prime-cut, A-number-one cover stories of extraordinary dimensions. They invent medical reality out of thin air.

    Here is a brief excerpt from the CDC’s website, “50 Years of the Epidemic Intelligence Service”:

    “In 1951, EIS was established by CDC following the start of the Korean War as an early-warning system against biologic warfare and man-made epidemics. EIS officers selected for 2-year field assignments were primarily medical doctors and other health professionals…who focused on infectious disease outbreaks. EIS has expanded to include a range of public health professionals, such as postdoctoral scientists in statistics, epidemiology, microbiology, anthropology, sociology, and behavioral sciences. Since 1951, approximately 2500 EIS officers have responded to requests for epidemiologic assistance within the United States and throughout the world. Each year, EIS officers are involved in several hundred investigations of disease and injury problems, enabling CDC and its public health partners to make recommendations to improve the public’s health and safety.”

    Several hundred investigations a year. An unparalleled opportunity to shape the truth into propaganda. Control of information about disease. Control out in the field, where EIS agents rush to the scene of “outbreaks,” all the way back through the hallowed halls of academia, into the press, into Big Pharma, into the government.

    When I say control of information, I mean disinformation. That’s what the EIS is for. They’ve never met a virus they didn’t love, and if they couldn’t find one, they pretended they did.

    They front for the medical cartel. And they provide cover for the crimes of mega-corporations. There’s a town where poverty-stricken people are dying, because horrendous pesticides are running into the water supply and soil? No, it’s a virus. There’s a hotel where the plumbing is broken and human waste is getting into all the bathrooms, and they want this hotel to be the epicenter of a new epidemic? No, it isn’t the plumbing, it’s a novel virus never seen before by man. There’s a section of a city where the industrial pollution is driving people over the edge into immune-system failure? No, it’s a virus.

    And here’s the capper. Their propaganda is so good most of the EIS people believe it themselves. You don’t achieve that kind of robotic servitude without intense brainwashing. The first installment of the mind-control program is called medical school.

    Psy-op and propaganda begin with the virus hunters of the EIS. They control and own the chokepoint of disease research. They blow up their scanty findings into ex-cathedra pronouncements.

    And of course, this strengthens the vaccine establishment because, for every virus, there must be a vaccine: the shot in the arm, loaded with toxic chemicals and a variety of germs.

    The EIS. The CDC’s band of brothers. The medical CIA.

    “Show me vast pig-feces lagoons, and I’ll show you a virus you’ve never heard of before. I’ll protect corporate criminals from here to the moon." "
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    I don't know if this has been debunked but back 30 - 40 years ago the theory was that the seasonal flu begins in the chicken farms in China. And that the CDC would obtain samples of the eggs lain in the region to develop their vaccine for that year's flu season.

    Always struck me as odd that such a story would circulate. On the other hand I do not understand the reason for the flu, nor do I think they do either. It seems rather an odd way for either the flu virus or our immune systems to have evolved naturally because as a survival strategy, it stinks for the bug, and as defense mechanism its pretty sloppy as a function. I rarely get the flu any more since I decided it wasn't natural and easily thwarted.

    Too early to tell, but...this is the age of sensationalism...so my bet is on this being way overblown.
    Douglas Dietrich supposedly had access to US Dept of Defense documents before burning them under orders. I think he said that the deadly 1917 flu of WW1 was created by the US Army. The found a bunch of sick chickens and forced some prisoners to live among them until they got sick. Then they shipped the prisoners off to Europe.

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    I heard from highly credible sources that George Soros raised wild bats in his highrise penthouse near Wuhan. The project was funded by the Clinton foundation with Rothschild money. Someone who looked a lot like Soros was seen at the market selling live bats. I believe it.

    (not serious!)
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    The closest known relatives of Wuhan are MERS (35% fatality rate) and Sars (10% fatality rate) MERS had such a high kill rate it was limited in its ability to spread. SARS could have been a disaster had it not been stopped. The Wuhan virus, so far, has a kill rate of 14% of hospitalized patients. It is thought it's actual fatality rate will be similar to but higher than Spanish flu. Spanish flu killed 40 million globally and killed young healthy people disproportionately.

    It's assumed that the Spanish flu created a cascading immune reaction among those with the strongest immune systems and the immune reaction was responsible for the deaths. That is one theory.There are a few. But if that one's correct, and Wuhan turns out to be similar, it is hugely problematic. It will take out the working class and leave the old, very young and infirm alive.

    The Chinese government is behaving incredibly conscientiously.

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    I don't know what I think about some of Mike Adams conclusions. Also we have seen so many claims that the pandemic is HERE. Main thing is immune system support anyway.

    Quote BREAKING: Coronavirus a stealth strain that can be carried by people who show NO fever or coughing symptoms… detection almost impossible under current government guidelines
    Friday, January 24, 2020 by: Mike Adams


    Coronavirus is spreading among people who show non-respiratory symptoms. This means detection of the carriers of the virus is going to be extremely difficult, given that nearly all health officials around the world are looking for respiratory symptoms such as coughing, sneezing and breathing difficulties.

    Some carriers of this rapidly spreading strain of coronavirus show no fever and no coughing, but instead are exhibiting symptoms of diarrhea, vomiting and chest pains.

    “Thus far, official guidance on the symptoms of the Wuhan virus has been limited to fever and symptoms of respiratory illness, such as coughing, difficulty breathing or shortness of breath,” reports The Epoch Times:

    However, according to local media a report by doctors and experts from Renmin Hospital of Wuhan University on Friday noted the appearance of initial symptoms not related to the respiratory system.

    It said that many patients who contracted the virus did not have a fever. Therefore simply taking the temperatures of passengers at transport hubs is not enough to screen for the virus.

    Three confirmed cases in the USA, total secrecy about which hospitals have the patients
    Human-to-human transmission of this novel coronavirus has already been confirmed, and according to multiple sources, there are now three confirmed cases in the United States.

    As we expected, the CDC and local health officials are refusing to release the names of the hospitals in which these coronavirus-infected patients are being treated and quarantined.

    The secrecy has begun.

    Meanwhile, the World Health Organization so far refuses to declare this a global pandemic, even as they were rapidly declaring faked, hoax pandemics in years past, such as the “Zika virus” hoax.

    What Americans need to know is that this coronavirus situation is far worse than what’s being reported by the controlled media, and that carriers are going to slip past even the best detection methods, because those methods are all based on looking for fevers and respiratory problems.

    Stay tuned. More updates coming soon.
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    Re the coronavirus Here is an up to date map on it. China has about 940 confirmed cases. It could well be more than just another flu.

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    I don't know what I think about some of Mike Adams conclusions. Also we have seen so many claims that the pandemic is HERE. Main thing is immune system support anyway.

    Quote BREAKING: Coronavirus a stealth strain that can be carried by people who show NO fever or coughing symptoms… detection almost impossible under current government guidelines
    Friday, January 24, 2020 by: Mike Adams


    Coronavirus is spreading among people who show non-respiratory symptoms. This means detection of the carriers of the virus is going to be extremely difficult, given that nearly all health officials around the world are looking for respiratory symptoms such as coughing, sneezing and breathing difficulties.

    Some carriers of this rapidly spreading strain of coronavirus show no fever and no coughing, but instead are exhibiting symptoms of diarrhea, vomiting and chest pains.

    “Thus far, official guidance on the symptoms of the Wuhan virus has been limited to fever and symptoms of respiratory illness, such as coughing, difficulty breathing or shortness of breath,” reports The Epoch Times:

    However, according to local media a report by doctors and experts from Renmin Hospital of Wuhan University on Friday noted the appearance of initial symptoms not related to the respiratory system.

    It said that many patients who contracted the virus did not have a fever. Therefore simply taking the temperatures of passengers at transport hubs is not enough to screen for the virus.

    Three confirmed cases in the USA, total secrecy about which hospitals have the patients
    Human-to-human transmission of this novel coronavirus has already been confirmed, and according to multiple sources, there are now three confirmed cases in the United States.

    As we expected, the CDC and local health officials are refusing to release the names of the hospitals in which these coronavirus-infected patients are being treated and quarantined.

    The secrecy has begun.

    Meanwhile, the World Health Organization so far refuses to declare this a global pandemic, even as they were rapidly declaring faked, hoax pandemics in years past, such as the “Zika virus” hoax.

    What Americans need to know is that this coronavirus situation is far worse than what’s being reported by the controlled media, and that carriers are going to slip past even the best detection methods, because those methods are all based on looking for fevers and respiratory problems.

    Stay tuned. More updates coming soon.
    Immune system support isn't going to do a thing for you in a major epidemic. That's like suggesting taking echinacea will protect you from a steamroller, if you stand in the middle of the street. If this virus is novel enough to you, your immune system won't know wtf hit it. Granted some people have exceptional constituions that can defeat darned near anything, even if they eat nothing buy high fructose corn syrup, twinkies and pop tarts. Most of us, however, will get sick in varying degrees, upon exposure.

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    Quote Posted by James Newell (here)
    Re the coronavirus Here is an up to date map on it. China has about 940 confirmed cases. It could well be more than just another flu.

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6
    And those are just the confirmed cases. The Chinese are acting like there many many more known cases. I don't blame them. If they didn't lie, they could be facing the twin epidemic of hysteria and panic.

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    Quote Meanwhile, the World Health Organization so far refuses to declare this a global pandemic, even as they were rapidly declaring faked, hoax pandemics in years past, such as the “Zika virus” hoax.
    One possible reason for downplaying the virus is that it is racially targeted on the Chinese. There is no need to raise alarm for the world. If the great sufferings and the details are not reported, no graphic videos and no interviews, a billion Chinese death is merely a figure. Genocides can be carried out step by step, race by race, country by country with some stealth.

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    Interesting take on this by Mel

    "Wuhan was the province where 5G was rolled out, now the center of a deadly virus. What are the odds that the province in China that first rolled out the use of 5G networks and technology is now the center of a deadly virus where people are dropping dead on the streets. What if the deaths are not a virus but a cellular degradation caused by 5G that mimics the effects of a virus."

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    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    Interesting take on this by Mel

    "Wuhan was the province where 5G was rolled out, now the center of a deadly virus. What are the odds that the province in China that first rolled out the use of 5G networks and technology is now the center of a deadly virus where people are dropping dead on the streets. What if the deaths are not a virus but a cellular degradation caused by 5G that mimics the effects of a virus."

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    Extremely unlikely. But a contributory factor might be that some people's immune systems had been critically compromised and weakened — by all kinds of factors: 5G 'electrosmog', poor diet, poor lifestyle, other toxins in the environment, etc etc. Those are all heavy straws piled on the camels' backs.

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)

    Immune system support isn't going to do a thing for you in a major epidemic. That's like suggesting taking echinacea will protect you from a steamroller, if you stand in the middle of the street. If this virus is novel enough to you, your immune system won't know wtf hit it. Granted some people have exceptional constituions that can defeat darned near anything, even if they eat nothing buy high fructose corn syrup, twinkies and pop tarts. Most of us, however, will get sick in varying degrees, upon exposure.
    I am really surprised by the strong response people are having to this new viral outbreak.

    My expectation is that with other past episodes, time will move on as will the social outbreak of concern. the Chinese issues and the quarantine may be for other reasons/motives we do not know?

    At any rate, the more we understand about the human body, the better. Also, the understanding of clinical treatment of viral infections is empowering. I like Alex Vasquez ability to communicate the information concerning the basics of viral infection.

    To stay rested and decrease stress is not a small feat. I practice an alliance with the zero point source through meditation and I am feeling a field of strength that is available when anyone turns in. Best wishes!

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    New China virus, Swine Flu hoax, history matters
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    by Jon Rappoport
    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020...story-matters/

    ( I was encouraged to see that another Avalonian has a lot of respect for Rappaport. See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1332993 ...While it doesn't appear that the information I've posted on this thread is getting much notice at all. In any case, Jon is a great whistleblower and has been for a long time. Vaccines and flu viruses have been the subjects of a lot of his research, and he understands the connection very well.)

    "I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but…history matters.

    When you see a new story on the horizon, and it looks a lot like an old story you know was a hoax, you have to dig up that history and report it.

    Yes, many people hate history. It tends to stretch their attention spans, which are rooted in the present, where the action is: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram—little crumbs of NOW and NOW and NOW.

    Oh well. Here we go, back into the Dark Age of 2009, an ancient time.

    What was happening then? There was a grim pandemic spreading like an angry cloud over the world, threatening to kill millions of people. Sound familiar? Sound like China right now? It was called Swine Flu.

    Just like now, the 2009 announcements were coming out of the World Health Organization and the CDC; the germ was a virus; it was spreading; travelers were carrying it; people were being tested at airports; the source of the germ seemed to be animal-to-human transmission; deaths were being reported; fear was rising. People were saying, THIS IS THE BIG ONE. Other people were saying: THIS IS A WEAPONIZED VIRUS ALTERED IN A BIOWAR LAB. Just like now.

    So here is what I wrote about the 2009 Swine Flu pandemic in its aftermath—I hope you can shake off the idea that the following facts are IMPOSSIBLE, “THE AUTHORITIES WOULD NEVER HAVE DONE THAT,” IT COULDN’T HAVE HAPPENED. The following facts are possible and true, the authorities did do that, and it did happen:

    In the late summer of 2009, the Swine Flu epidemic was hyped to the sky by the CDC [and the World Health Organization]. The CDC was calling for all Americans to take the Swine Flu vaccine.

    The problem was, the CDC was concealing a scandal.

    At the time, star CBS investigative reporter, Sharyl Attkisson, was working on a Swine Flu story. She discovered that the CDC had secretly stopped counting US cases of the illness—while, of course, continuing to warn Americans about its unchecked spread.

    Understand that the CDC’s main job is counting cases and reporting the numbers.

    What was the Agency up to?

    Here is an excerpt from my 2014 interview with Sharyl Attkisson:

    Rappoport: In 2009, you spearheaded coverage of the so-called Swine Flu pandemic. You discovered that, in the summer of 2009, the Centers for Disease Control, ignoring their federal mandate, [secretly] stopped counting Swine Flu cases in America. Yet they continued to stir up fear about the “pandemic,” without having any real measure of its impact. Wasn’t that another investigation of yours that was shut down? Wasn’t there more to find out?

    Attkisson: The implications of the story were even worse than that. We discovered through our FOI efforts that before the CDC mysteriously stopped counting Swine Flu cases, they had learned that almost none of the cases they had counted as Swine Flu was, in fact, Swine Flu or any sort of flu at all! The interest in the story from one [CBS] executive was very enthusiastic. He said it was “the most original story” he’d seen on the whole Swine Flu epidemic. But others pushed to stop it [after it was published on the CBS News website] and, in the end, no [CBS television news] broadcast wanted to touch it. We aired numerous stories pumping up the idea of an epidemic, but not the one that would shed original, new light on all the hype. It [Attkisson’s article] was fair, accurate, legally approved and a heck of a story. With the CDC keeping the true Swine Flu stats secret, it meant that many in the public took and gave their children an experimental vaccine that may not have been necessary.

    —end of interview excerpt—

    It was routine for doctors all over America to send blood samples from patients they’d diagnosed with Swine Flu, or the “most likely” Swine Flu patients, to labs for testing. And overwhelmingly, those samples were coming back with the result: not Swine Flu, not any kind of flu.

    That was the big secret. That’s what the CDC was hiding. That’s why they stopped reporting Swine Flu case numbers. That’s what Attkisson had discovered. That’s why she was shut down.

    But it gets even worse.

    Because about three weeks after Attkisson’s findings were published on the CBS News website, the CDC, obviously in a panic, decided to double down. If one lie is exposed, tell an even bigger one. A much bigger one.

    Here, from a November 12, 2009, WebMD article is the CDC’s response: “Shockingly, 14 million to 34 million U.S. residents — the CDC’s best guess is 22 million — came down with H1N1 swine flu by Oct. 17 [2009].” (“22 million cases of Swine Flu in US,” by Daniel J. DeNoon).

    Are your eyeballs popping? They should be.

    In the summer of 2009, the CDC secretly stops counting Swine Flu cases in America, because the overwhelming percentage of lab tests from likely Swine Flu patients shows no sign of Swine Flu or any other kind of flu.

    There is no Swine Flu epidemic.

    Then, the CDC estimates there are 22 MILLION cases of Swine Flu in the US.

    So…the premise that the CDC would never lie about important matters like, oh, a vaccine causing autism…you can lay that one to rest.

    The CDC will lie about anything it wants to. It will boldly go where no person interested in real science will go.

    —That’s what I wrote about the Swine Flu fraud years ago.

    I reprint it here to give people some perspective on what health agencies like the CDC and the World Health Organization will do to pump up the idea (not the reality) of an epidemic.

    Now, if you don’t mind, I’ll blow my own horn a little. After the mind-blowing revelations Sharyl Attkisson exposed in print, in 2009, about the Swine Flu hoax, how many other reporters understood the implications and followed up by writing their own stories and pressing home the astonishing hoax? How many interviewed Attkisson and hammered on her findings and spread the facts far and wide? How many went all-out to emphasize the outrageous guilt of the CDC on this scandal?

    Most reporters, when an epidemic is announced, take the bait. Automatically. They fall for the con and the hustle like rookies going to Vegas for the first time, thinking they’re going to score at the betting tables. They make the crucial mistake of believing that some virus has really been discovered, and it is about to wreak havoc in the population.

    A new virus story always sounds good. It will have legs. People will want to know about it. Some reporters—blithely accepting the existence and dire impact of a virus—will take that ball and run with it into new territory: “the virus was created in a lab.” They don’t stop and consider the possibility (confirmed by history) that the hoax goes all the way to the bottom—no virus was actually discovered, or if it was, there is a zero proof that it’s harmful. They miss that vital step.

    There is more to discuss along this line—and I have, in print. It involves asking the questions, “How do researchers actually isolate a new virus and identify it?” and, “What are the correct standards for proving a particular germ causes a particular disease?” When you ask those questions and pursue the answers, you find yourself wading hip-deep in a swamp. The garbage floating around you is formidable. Everybody and his brother in the official medical community has answers, and most of them turn out to be self-serving propaganda, not science. It’s as if you’re hearing: THE WAY TO ISOLATE A VIRUS AND PROVE IT CAUSES A PARTICULAR DISEASE IS THE WAY WE SAID WE DID IT. NOW DON’T BOTHER US ANYMORE.

    But it turns out that bothering is good. Necessary."
    Each breath a gift...
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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)

    Immune system support isn't going to do a thing for you in a major epidemic. That's like suggesting taking echinacea will protect you from a steamroller, if you stand in the middle of the street. If this virus is novel enough to you, your immune system won't know wtf hit it. Granted some people have exceptional constituions that can defeat darned near anything, even if they eat nothing buy high fructose corn syrup, twinkies and pop tarts. Most of us, however, will get sick in varying degrees, upon exposure.
    I am really surprised by the strong response people are having to this new viral outbreak.

    My expectation is that with other past episodes, time will move on as will the social outbreak of concern. the Chinese issues and the quarantine may be for other reasons/motives we do not know?

    At any rate, the more we understand about the human body, the better. Also, the understanding of clinical treatment of viral infections is empowering. I like Alex Vasquez ability to communicate the information concerning the basics of viral infection.

    To stay rested and decrease stress is not a small feat. I practice an alliance with the zero point source through meditation and I am feeling a field of strength that is available when anyone turns in. Best wishes!
    I agree.

    many where I live are afraid of this virous. And are getting the flu shot.

    Not me.

    Much info here. Thank s all.

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    Dane Wigington (geoengineeringwatch.org) is suspicious this is a bioweapon attack. Published yesterday.

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    An article yesterday by Mike Adams from Natural News:
    Mike is often a little sensational, but these appear to be actual numbers — albeit from a small case study:

    Coronavirus Hits 15% Fatality Rate, 83% Infection Rate for Those Exposed; Lancet Publishes Early Study That Points to Alarming Consequences for Humanity.

    It's a long article, which I'll not copy here. But he points out, quite correctly:
    If the infection rate stands at 83%, this pandemic will be impossible to contain.

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    ΒΟDΙES EVERYWHERE' CHΙNΑ QUΑRΑNTΙNΕS 10+ MAJOR CITIES(40 ΜΙL PEOPLE) & 'WHO' CREATED VΙRUS REVEALED...


    Source: https://bitchute.com/video/6dav9eMbRZk

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    From Mike Adams:

    Interviews Chris Martenson, a 'survivalist', former VP of Pfizer who has a pHD in toxicology. He knows what he's talking about. It's not all just his opinion.

    https://www.peakprosperity.com/video-the-risk-of-a-true-pandemic-is-higher-than-were-being-told

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    Viking,

    "Bodies Everywhere?" There's no evidence for this. It could happen but currently...just no. Chinese authorities are acting with an abundance of caution AND they are also downplaying it, but the 'bodies everywhere' at this point is fear mongering.

    The videos showing people falling to the ground aren't properly sourced, vetted. Question everything. Don't be overly reactive or too complacent. Walk the middle road on this one. Fade click bait vloggers.

    As for the severity of the outbreak, watch what governments do, not what they say. Building an emergency 10,000 bed hospital speaks to the potential severity, or present severity, but it is far from, "people dying in the streets."
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    Onawah,

    A new virus story always sounds good. It will have legs. People will want to know about it. Some reporters—blithely accepting the existence and dire impact of a virus—will take that ball and run with it into new territory: “the virus was created in a lab.” They don’t stop and consider the possibility (confirmed by history) that the hoax goes all the way to the bottom—no virus was actually discovered, or if it was, there is a zero proof that it’s harmful. They miss that vital step.

    This is Jon Rapaport's opinion and not necessarily factual. Please bare in mind that a lot of "honest" reporters in the alt community started out that way and have gotten carried away and/or make money from clicks. Just because fear of disease has been manipulated in the past, and for profit, doesn't meant that every potential pandemic will follow that pattern. Humanity, at 7 billion individuals, a large percentage of whom are in China, are primed by nature for a pandemic that wipes many of them out.

    This is particularly true in areas where people are tightly packed and are mingling intimately with wildlife. You don't get much more intimate than eating bats and snakes in open air markets. The rabbit plague that wiped out all of the rabbits in Australia, is just one example of overcrowding that leads to viral epidemics that kill.

    It's probably wise to bare in mind that the virus may be a bioweapons program using the argument I just used as justification for the outbreak. It's possible but it could be exactly what it appears to be.

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