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    How to DEFEAT a coronavirus infection:
    Maintain health
    - Boost immune system
    - Good nutrition
    - Natural medicine
    - Basic health knowledge

    https://www.brighteon.com/11fcf57e-3...1-8ab9c9f85f49

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    For free society!

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    Hi Olam, see how this could turn to “me too” conversation easily but that’s not why I posted it. The thing is far more severe than expected and has different range of symptoms than the casual flu and travel exhaustion.
    I don’t think one would get through public transport with it when in acute stage. You can get to bed and “keep dying” till it’s over

    I seem to be very soft hearted individual compared to the majority of our governed humans however my input seems to be misguiding and attract “blonds” times to times.
    No I’m not dull, charmed or suffering from “me too” syndrome.

    I’m pretty upset with what’s going on globally and this isn’t the place to fix it all either.

    This is serious topic so hope we can keep discussion on level.

    Thank you

    It's all good Agape, thanks for your reply. I was just sharing my experience as it's similar. Don't under estimate what I caught, the symptoms came on two days after I arrived and was totally floored like never before. I can't say it was that virus, but it was extreme and right in the lungs. I have a robust health and prepared before the trip with heavy doses of vit C, which I upped the dose once the symptoms showed up. This did the job, I beleive that if I had not prepared and followed thru with the right "medication" I would not be good right now.

    Great to know you have recovered with high dose of vitamin C, I can but agree on being intuitive and not afraid to use herbal remedies to improve ones condition helps- at least one can’t cause him/herself harms,
    as preventative and at early stages of flu.

    What kind of remedies work is individual question though.

    Vitamin C -for example- in any form never improved my flu symptoms and that despite I’m vitamin C lover As a kid, I’d just chew the effervescent C tablets like bonbons. Not given up on C quite yet but we all may have metabolic rates and specific deficiencies that we aren’t aware of neither labs do detect them on spot.
    But in long term studies it’s been observed that 40% of the civilized “northern” populace are vitamin D deficient( one of their “predictable estimates” I presume- no they actually did not test 40% of populace for vitamin deficiency).

    With viruses and influenzas I think it’s a lot about trial and error so far. They can take down a civilization if much of the populace are starved,
    in some aspect.

    One doctor specialist in internal medicine (who had good laboratory to perform detailed blood analysis for all kinds of “elements” etc) tried to explain to me in good chat we had years ago how results of starvation do not always show at plain sight, not even in casual blood profile( unless the patient is in acute condition) but may cause long lasting degradation of metabolic functions, unnoticed.

    It sometimes concerns people on various types of “mono diets” ( eating just one type of food or very restricted choice of) for long time, extreme diets and situation of prisoners or generations of people who lived through famines.

    If you think of the Chinese elder generation for example but this is a worldwide spread problem of many of our “seniors”,
    survivors of several wars and famines, the trauma of insufficient feeding affects them together with willingness to “eat better”, mostly because the society does not care a lot and the underlying fear of “eating too much” or “investing to themselves”.

    Old age is a state of vulnerability and weakness on this planet and human society neglects old people a lot instead respecting and working with them.

    It’s not that they could not improve or would not be willing to improve but it requires effort and sensitive approach.

    I think of it as one underlying cause behind the current epidemics( probably not the main one) but think population control, cause and effect.

    In real time - and to be honest- I don’t think we have the real numbers- no country so far releases accurate statistics on how many seniors pass away as result of “unidentified flu” every year. True, most are weak and have underlying condition. So once they get “simple flu” it may be all over.
    The bad side of it is: most medical institutions do not perform autopsies in people over 60 or 65 (the number may differ from country to country, slightly) and they certainly can’t be bothered about identifying viruses unless they are known, cause local epidemics in hospital( such are rarely announced in any sort of media unless they’d affect public) or get out of hand ( and the bag).

    Why because viruses are very small and virological labs that are “in the system” perform tests for known and approved viral strains.

    To identify “new ones” and approve testing methods is a big task for research labs.


    Well, sorry I get carried away in my mind to “all the problems we really have”.

    But: searching and trying herbal remedies is even more important, in my opinion.


    The funny bit about it is once I get flu I totally don’t know what I would like really


    At the end of the day Fentimans Curiosity Cola always helps if only because there is never enough of it.

    With C


    To elucidate this grim topic: the doctor mentioned above was mums specialist and friend working in experimental institute so I’ve got thorough blood profile test whenever it was necessary,
    particularly after coming back from India after 6 years, in 2005. I had bad bronchitis that winter for which I had to take antibiotic( according to them anyway and it took long time before they worked it out - despite not taking any for 6 years, probably even longer). In the meantime, they couldn’t find any known pathogens at all and the lab results were in perfect norm- I knew it was due to my pure and healthy life style- for them I was an exotic and being vegetarian was labeled “extreme diet”.
    Such as they would refuse any special treatments and would say “our methods will never work on you”. So I bowed out respectfully.
    I would tend to say that what makes a difference is the dose. For example, here in Canada, the max dose you can get in one capsule or even powder form is 1000 mg. That is not even going to make a dent in the virus.
    Vitamin D is also capped at 1000 UI max per dose which is ridiculous when you know that 1 hour in the sun can give a fair skinned person something around 10,000 to 15,000 UI.
    The liposomal version of Vit C is made to survive the stomach acid and reach the gut/bloodstream as intact as possible.
    It's the next best thing to IV directly in the blood.
    As far as being expensive, you can make your own liposomal vit C....
    It takes an ultrasonic jewlery cleaner that you buy new and use just for this.
    Make a sludge in the blender with Lethicin and
    http://it-takes-time.com/2015/03/02/...mal-vitamin-c/
    I think Acerola Cherries have the most potent vit C and thats a good one to use as the source to create the Liposomal variety.

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    Vitamin D is also capped at 1000 UI max per dose.
    Just a note for our Canadian friends: on Amazon.com (not Amazon.ca), 10,000 IU per D3 capsule is readily available.

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    Yes Olam and the rest of dear readers but and again, high doses of anything not even the vitamin C or D are not panacea for all diseases neither can guarantee success.

    Liposomal forms of vitamins and other supplements are now readily available in Europe, the pharmaceuticals and natural supplements market is HUGE really and sucks money from people’s pockets. There is always “better choice” of product made by nano technologies, laced with zinc and whatever specific combination you prefer or require. That said, human health is being pried on and exploited and turned to commodity, enshrined in golden capsules, feeding on human milk tranferrase to rejuvenate aged cells and placental extracts in your face creams,
    all nano and surpassing even your brain barriers. Nuff said.

    I’d dare to say that “they” have the right medicine already but can’t be bothered to release it.


    Due to my current exile situation on planet Earth I stopped buying to most of these people’s fancy products and retreated to old good sources of vitamins in fruits,
    mountain garlic and onions, real life mushrooms and some herbs.

    I know it’s imperfect but it can keep you for years


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    Vitamin C Works for Sepsis. Will It Work for Coronavirus?
    by Dr. Joseph Mercola
    February 24, 2020
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a..._rid=816968196

    "STORY AT-A-GLANCE
    Sepsis is responsible for 1 in 5 deaths worldwide each year, killing 11 million out of 56 million people in 2017 alone. Sepsis is also one of the leading causes for influenza deaths
    An IV protocol has been shown to dramatically improve chances of survival in septic patients. Giving adult patients 200 mg of thiamine every 12 hours, 1,500 mg of ascorbic acid every six hours, and 50 mg of hydrocortisone every six hours for two days reduced mortality from 40% to 8.5%
    Recent research has demonstrated the vitamin C-hydrocortisone-thiamine protocol lowers mortality in pediatric patients as well, from 28% to 9% in the first 30 days
    In 2009, IV vitamin C was shown to be a potentially lifesaving treatment against severe swine flu. Even before that, many studies had demonstrated the usefulness of vitamin C against infections of various kinds
    A randomized double-blind study published in 1994 found elderly patients given 200 milligrams of vitamin C per day while hospitalized for acute respiratory infection fared significantly better than those receiving a placebo
    According to the most comprehensive global analysis1,2,3 done to date, sepsis is responsible for 1 in 5 deaths worldwide each year, killing 11 million out of 56 million people in 2017 alone. The researchers call the finding “alarming,” as their updated figures are double that of previous estimates.

    Sepsis is a life-threatening condition triggered by a systemic infection that causes your body to overreact and launch an excessive and highly damaging immune response.

    Unless promptly diagnosed and treated, it can rapidly progress to multiple-organ failure and death, so it’s crucial to be on the lookout for its signs and symptoms4,5,6 whenever you’re ill or in the hospital.

    This includes cases of suspected influenza, as sepsis can mimic many of the signs and symptoms of flu. In fact, as discussed in “The Alarming Reason Some People Die From the Flu,” sepsis is one of the leading causes for influenza deaths.7

    Vitamin C Protocol Lowers Sepsis Mortality
    The good news is, a protocol of intravenous (IV) vitamin C with hydrocortisone and thiamine (vitamin B1) has been shown to dramatically improve chances of survival.8

    This sepsis treatment protocol was developed Dr. Paul Marik, a critical care doctor at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital in East Virginia. His retrospective before-after clinical study9,10 showed giving patients 200 mg of thiamine every 12 hours, 1,500 mg of ascorbic acid every six hours, and 50 mg of hydrocortisone every six hours for two days reduced mortality from 40% to 8.5%.

    Importantly, the treatment has no side effects and is inexpensive, readily available and simple to administer, so there’s virtually no risk involved. More recent research,11,12 published online January 9, 2020, found Marik’s sepsis protocol lowered mortality in pediatric patients as well.

    The study was performed at Ann & Robert H. Lurie Children's Hospital of Chicago, and as noted by Science Daily,13 the preliminary data from this study “supports the promising outcomes seen in adults.” Between January 2014 and February 2019, 557 pediatric patients with septic shock met the criteria for inclusion in the study.

    Forty-three received Mariks’s vitamin C-B1-hydrocortisone protocol, 181 received hydrocortisone-only therapy, and 333 received neither of these treatments. The 43 patients receiving the vitamin C treatment were matched based on clinical status with 43 untreated controls and 43 hydrocortisone-only patients.

    At the 30-day mark, controls and the hydrocortisone-only groups had a mortality rate of 28% while the treatment group had a mortality rate of just 9%. At 90 days, 35% of the controls and 33% of those receiving hydrocortisone-only had died, compared to just 14% of the treatment group.14

    As noted by the authors, “Our results suggest that HAT [hydrocortisone, ascorbic acid and thiamine] therapy, when administered early in the clinical course, reduces mortality in children with septic shock.”

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    Vitamin C Put to the Test Against Coronavirus
    In 2009, IV vitamin C was shown to be a potentially lifesaving treatment against severe swine flu. Even before that, many studies had demonstrated the usefulness of vitamin C against infections of various kinds.

    For example, a randomized double-blind study15 published in 1994 found elderly patients given 200 milligrams of vitamin C per day while hospitalized for acute respiratory infection fared significantly better than those receiving a placebo.

    According to the authors, “This was particularly the case for those commencing the trial most severely ill, many of whom had very low plasma and white cell vitamin C concentrations on admission.”

    Now, vitamin C will be put to the test against coronavirus as well. The study,16 “Vitamin C Infusion for the Treatment of Severe 2019-nCoV Infected Pneumonia” was posted to ClinicalTrials.gov February 11, 2020, and has not yet started recruiting patients. According to the study description:17

    “At the end of 2019, patients with unexplained pneumonia appeared in Wuhan, China … Subsequently, the World Health Organization officially named the new coronavirus that caused the pneumonia epidemic in Wuhan as 2019 new coronavirus (2019-nCoV), and the pneumonia was named severe acute respiratory infection (SARI).

    Up to February 4, 2020, over 20,000 cases have been diagnosed in China, 406 of which have died, and 154 cases have been discovered in other countries around the world. Most of the deaths were elderly patients or patients with severe underlying diseases …

    Statistics of the 41 patients with SARI published in JAMA initially showed that 13 patients were transferred into the ICU, of which 11 (85%) had ARDS and 3 (23%) had shock. Of these, 10 (77%) required mechanical ventilation support, and 2 (15%) required ECMO support. Of the above 13 patients, 5 (38%) eventually died and 7 (38%) were transferred out of the ICU.

    Viral pneumonia is a dangerous condition with a poor clinical prognosis … Vitamin C, also known as ascorbic acid, has antioxidant properties. When sepsis happens, the cytokine surge caused by sepsis is activated, and neutrophils in the lungs accumulate in the lungs, destroying alveolar capillaries. Early clinical studies have shown that vitamin C can effectively prevent this process.

    In addition, vitamin C can help to eliminate alveolar fluid by preventing the activation and accumulation of neutrophils, and reducing alveolar epithelial water channel damage. At the same time, vitamin C can prevent the formation of neutrophil extracellular traps, which is a biological event of vascular injury caused by neutrophil activation.”

    The researchers intend to treat patients with 24 grams of IV vitamin C per day for seven days at a speed of 7 milliliters per hour. The placebo group will receive an IV of normal saline.

    The primary outcome measure will be the number of days without ventilation support during 28 days of hospitalization. Secondary outcome measures will include mortality, ICU length of stay, the rate of CPR required, vasopressor use, respiratory function, sepsis-related organ failure and more.

    Time will tell what the outcome will be, but chances are it will be favorable. Back in 2003 during the SARS pandemic, a Finnish researcher called for an investigation into the use of vitamin C, stating:18

    “Recently, a new coronavirus was identified as the cause of the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). In the absence of a specific treatment for SARS, the possibility that vitamin C may show nonspecific effects on several viral respiratory tract infections should be considered.

    There are numerous reports indicating that vitamin C may affect the immune system, for example the function of phagocytes, transformation of T lymphocytes and production of interferon. In particular, vitamin C increased the resistance of chick embryo tracheal organ cultures to infection caused by an avian coronavirus.19”

    He goes on to cite research showing vitamin C also protects broiler chicks against avian coronavirus, cuts the duration and severity of common cold in humans and significantly lowers susceptibility to pneumonia. Unfortunately, it doesn’t appear as though vitamin C was ever studied in relation to SARS, but it’s encouraging that China is now investigating its use against 2019-nCoV.

    Health Benefits of Vitamin C Are Vastly Underappreciated
    Vitamin C has two major functions that help explain its potent health benefits. First, it acts as a powerful antioxidant. It also acts as a cofactor for enzymatic processes. One of the most famous forerunners of high dose vitamin C treatment for colds and other disease was Linus Carl Pauling (1901-1994), a biochemist who won the Nobel Prize in chemistry in 1954.

    Despite that, many felt he was too far out of his field of expertise with his research into nutrition, and his advocacy for vitamin C was largely ignored or mocked by mainstream medicine and nutritional science — with medical bloggers leading the pack as self-appointed judges of Pauling’s findings.20

    Others, however, have picked up on what Pauling was trying to point out, and are now trying to awaken the world to just how important vitamin C is for good health and vitality.21 As explained by the Linus Pauling Institute:22

    “Vitamin C is the primary water-soluble, non-enzymatic antioxidant in plasma and tissues. Even in small amounts vitamin C can protect indispensable molecules in the body, such as proteins, lipids (fats), carbohydrates, and nucleic acids (DNA and RNA), from damage by free radicals and reactive oxygen species (ROS) that are generated during normal metabolism, by active immune cells, and through exposure to toxins and pollutants ...”

    According to Dr. Ronald Hunninghake, an internationally recognized expert on vitamin C who has personally supervised tens of thousands of IV vitamin C administrations, vitamin C is “definitely a very underutilized modality in infectious disease,” considering “it’s really a premiere treatment” for infections.

    In my interview with him, Hunninghake suggested one of the reasons why conventional medicine has been so slow to recognize the importance of vitamin C has to do with the fact that they’ve been looking at it as a mere vitamin, when in fact it’s a potent oxidizing agent that can help eliminate pathogens when given in high doses.

    There are also financial factors. In short, it’s too inexpensive. Conventional medicine, as a general rule, is notoriously uninterested in solutions that cannot produce significant profits.

    However, considering sepsis is now the most expensive condition treated in the U.S., costing $23.6 billion annually,23,24 the need for an affordable solution is becoming critical. This is particularly true for lower income nations, where an estimated 85% of sepsis-related deaths occur.25 Global pandemics like the coronavirus also call for lower-cost treatments that actually work.

    Recognize the Symptoms of Sepsis
    When it comes to sepsis, which can result from just about any infection, time is of the essence. It’s really important to familiarize yourself with its signs and symptoms, and to take immediate action if you suspect sepsis.

    While the signs can be subtle at first, sepsis typically produces the following signs and symptoms:26,27,28 Many of these symptoms may be confused with a bad cold or flu. However, they tend to develop quicker than you would normally expect.

    A high fever with chills and shivering

    Rapid heartbeat (tachycardia)

    Rapid breathing (tachypnea)

    Unusual level of sweating (diaphoresis)

    Dizziness

    Confusion or disorientation

    Slurred speech

    Diarrhea, nausea or vomiting

    Difficulty breathing, shortness of breath

    Severe muscle pain

    Low urine output

    Cold and clammy skin and/or skin rash

    The Sepsis Alliance recommends using the acronym TIME to remember some of the more common symptoms:29

    T — Temperature higher or lower than normal?
    I — Have you now or recently had any signs of an infection?
    M — Are there any changes in mental status, such as confusion or excessive sleepiness?
    E — Are you experiencing any extreme pain or illness; do you have a “feeling you may die?”
    Another acronym you could use to memorize the signs and symptoms is SEPSIS, described in the video above:

    S — Shivering (fever, cold)
    E — Extreme pain
    P — Pale, clammy skin
    S — Shortness of breath
    I — “I feel like I might die”
    S — Sleepy (confused)
    Educational Resources for Your Doctor
    Marik’s sepsis protocol can be a lifesaver, so you’d be wise to discuss it with your doctor any time you’re hospitalized. Remember, sepsis is often the result of a secondary infection contracted while in the hospital, so it’s prudent to be prepared.

    This way, should you develop sepsis while you’re admitted, your medical team already knows your wishes and can act swiftly. According to Marik, the best results are obtained when the concoction is administered within the first six hours of presentation of symptoms.30 The longer you delay treatment, the less likely it will be successful.

    If your doctor refuses to consider it offhand, convince him or her to review the studies cited here.31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39 While there are certain situations in which the hospital may still deny this treatment, if you are an adult who is sick, you will usually have the right to insist on it. I will actually be interviewing Marik shortly and hope to work with him on developing a process to make it easier for patients to implement this strategy in their local hospital.

    In most cases, you’d probably just need to sign an “Against Medical Advice — Acknowledgment and Waiver” form (samples of which can be found in the references40), which states you’ve elected to not follow the standard of care recommended by your doctor.

    Contraindication for IV Vitamin C Treatment
    The only contraindication to high-dose vitamin C treatments such as Marik’s sepsis protocol is if you are glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD) deficient, which is a genetic disorder.41 G6PD is required for your body to produce NADPH, which is a cousin of NAD+ and necessary to transfer reductive potential to keep your antioxidants, like glutathione and vitamin C, functional.

    Because your red blood cells do not contain any mitochondria, the only way it can provide reduced glutathione is through NADPH, and since G6PD eliminates this, it causes red blood cells to rupture due to inability to compensate for oxidative stress.

    Fortunately, G6PD deficiency is relatively uncommon, and can be tested for. People of Mediterranean and African decent are at greater risk of being G6PD deficient. Worldwide, G6PD deficiency is thought to affect 400 million individuals, and in the U.S., an estimated 1 in 10 African-American males has it. 42"
    - Sources and References
    1, 25 The Lancet January 18, 2020; 395(10219): 168-170
    2 BBC News January 16, 2020
    3 NPR January 16, 2020
    4, 26 National Institute of General Medical Sciences, Sepsis
    5, 27 World Sepsis Day, Sepsis
    6, 28 Medical News Today, October 23, 2018
    7 Virulence January 1, 2014; 5(1): 137–142
    8 NPR March 23, 2017
    9 Chest June 2017; 151(6): 1229-1238
    10 Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, January 28, 2017
    11 American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care MedicineJanuary 9, 2020 [Epub ahead of print]
    12, 13 Science Daily January 22, 2020
    14 American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care MedicineJanuary 9, 2020 [Epub ahead of print], Results
    15 Int J Vitam Nutr Res. 1994;64(3):212-9
    16 Clinical Trials February 11, 2020
    17 Clinical Trials February 11, 2020, Detailed Description
    18 Journal of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy, DOI: 10.1093/jac/dkch002, Vitamin C and SARS Coronavirus, Page 1049 (PDF)
    19 Archives of Virology 1978;56(3):195-9
    20 Quackwatch Linus Pauling
    21 Jeffrey Dach MD
    22 Linus Pauling Institute, Vitamin C, Function
    23 Healthcare Cost and Utilization Project, May 2016
    24 Sepsis Alliance News, July 30, 2016
    29 Sepsis Alliance, December 14, 2018
    30 PowerPoint Presentation: Hydrocortisone, Ascorbic Acid and Thiamine for the Treatment of Severe Sepsis & Septic Shock, Paul E. Marik, MD, page 16-17
    31 J Clin Med. 2019 Apr 9;8(4). pii: E478
    32 Ann Intensive Care. 2019 May 20;9(1):58
    33 Trials. 2019 Jul 11;20(1):420
    34 Crit Care. 2019 Jul 30;23(1):265
    35 Nutrients. 2019 Aug 23;11(9). pii: E1994
    36 Journal of Clinical Medicine January 16, 2019’ 8(1): E102
    37 Indian Journal of Anaesthesia December 2018; 62(12): 934-939
    38 Nutrients November 14, 2018; 10(11): E1762
    39 Critical Care October 29, 2018; 22(1): 283
    40 Against Medical Advice — Acknowledgment and Waiver Sample Forms (PDF)
    41, 42 NIH.gov Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydrogen
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    More Vitamin C Studies Approved in China to Fight Coronavirus: Therapy Censored in U.S.
    February 24, 2020
    https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/more-...nsored-in-u-s/
    Comments by Brian Shilhavy
    Editor, Health Impact News

    "On January 27, 2020 we published a press release from Orthomolecular Medicine News Service regarding Vitamin C and its use in treating the Coronavirus. See:
    Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/vi...t-coronavirus/
    It soon went viral on Facebook, until Facebook labeled it as “Fake News.” Facebook partners with a website called “Lead Stories” to discredit news stories they do not want becoming popular on Facebook. Health Impact News is a popular target of “Lead Stories.”



    Since we published this news release in January, however, several hospitals in China have begun to conduct trials on intravenous Vitamin C therapy, so it is hardly “Fake News” as Facebook is claiming.

    In fact, Facebook is the one guilty of promoting “Fake News” by erroneously claiming there is no proof that Vitamin C can help combat the Coronavirus, when in fact clinical research trials are well underway in China with ample evidence that should be shared with the public, and not suppressed, simply because U.S. sources in bed with Big Pharma do not want the public to have this information.

    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service editor Andrew Saul has just published an updated report, and he notes:

    The World Health Organization (WHO) has, literally, met with Google and Facebook and other media giants to stop the spread of what they declare to be wrong information.

    Physician-directed, hospital-based administration of intravenous vitamin C has been marginalized or discredited. Scientific debate over COVID-19 appears to not be allowed.

    Ironically, Facebook, blocking any significant users’ sharing of the news of approved vitamin therapy research, is itself blocked in China by the Chinese government. As for the internet, yes, China has it. And yes, it is censored. But, significantly, the Chinese government has not blocked this real news on how intravenous vitamin C will save lives in the COVID-19 epidemic.

    Hence, the news about Vitamin C therapy helping with the Coronavirus outbreak is found mostly in Chinese language websites, endorsed by the Communist China Government’s controlled media, but mostly banned in the English language social media platforms like Facebook, or censored from Google search results.

    Three Intravenous Vitamin C Research Studies Approved for Treating COVID-19
    by Andrew W. Saul, Editor
    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    (OMNS February 21, 2020) Intravenous vitamin C is already being employed in China against COVID-19 coronavirus. I am receiving regular updates because I am part of the Medical and Scientific Advisory Board to the International Intravenous Vitamin C China Epidemic Medical Support Team. Its director is Richard Z. Cheng, MD, PhD; associate director is Hong Zhang, PhD. Among other team members are Qi Chen, PhD (Associate Professor, Kansas University Medical School); Jeanne Drisko, MD (Professor, University of Kansas Medical School); Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD; and Atsuo Yanagisawa, MD, PhD. (Professor, Kyorin University, Tokyo).

    To read the treatment protocol information in English: http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n07.shtml
    (Protocol in Chinese at http://www.doctoryourself.com/Corona...C_Protocol.pdf)

    Direct report from China
    OMNS Chinese edition editor Dr. Richard Cheng is reporting from China about the first approved study of 12,000 to 24,000 mg/day of vitamin C by IV. The doctor also specifically calls for immediate use of vitamin C for prevention of coronavirus (COVID-19).

    February 24, 2020
    More Vitamin C Studies Approved in China to Fight Coronavirus: Therapy Censored in U.S.

    Comments by Brian Shilhavy
    Editor, Health Impact News

    On January 27, 2020 we published a press release from Orthomolecular Medicine News Service regarding Vitamin C and its use in treating the Coronavirus. See:

    Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus
    It soon went viral on Facebook, until Facebook labeled it as “Fake News.” Facebook partners with a website called “Lead Stories” to discredit news stories they do not want becoming popular on Facebook. Health Impact News is a popular target of “Lead Stories.”

    Since we published this news release in January, however, several hospitals in China have begun to conduct trials on intravenous Vitamin C therapy, so it is hardly “Fake News” as Facebook is claiming.

    In fact, Facebook is the one guilty of promoting “Fake News” by erroneously claiming there is no proof that Vitamin C can help combat the Coronavirus, when in fact clinical research trials are well underway in China with ample evidence that should be shared with the public, and not suppressed, simply because U.S. sources in bed with Big Pharma do not want the public to have this information.

    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service editor Andrew Saul has just published an updated report, and he notes:

    The World Health Organization (WHO) has, literally, met with Google and Facebook and other media giants to stop the spread of what they declare to be wrong information.

    Physician-directed, hospital-based administration of intravenous vitamin C has been marginalized or discredited. Scientific debate over COVID-19 appears to not be allowed.

    Ironically, Facebook, blocking any significant users’ sharing of the news of approved vitamin therapy research, is itself blocked in China by the Chinese government. As for the internet, yes, China has it. And yes, it is censored. But, significantly, the Chinese government has not blocked this real news on how intravenous vitamin C will save lives in the COVID-19 epidemic.

    Hence, the news about Vitamin C therapy helping with the Coronavirus outbreak is found mostly in Chinese language websites, endorsed by the Communist China Government’s controlled media, but mostly banned in the English language social media platforms like Facebook, or censored from Google search results.

    Three Intravenous Vitamin C Research Studies Approved for Treating COVID-19
    by Andrew W. Saul, Editor
    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    (OMNS February 21, 2020) Intravenous vitamin C is already being employed in China against COVID-19 coronavirus. I am receiving regular updates because I am part of the Medical and Scientific Advisory Board to the International Intravenous Vitamin C China Epidemic Medical Support Team. Its director is Richard Z. Cheng, MD, PhD; associate director is Hong Zhang, PhD. Among other team members are Qi Chen, PhD (Associate Professor, Kansas University Medical School); Jeanne Drisko, MD (Professor, University of Kansas Medical School); Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD; and Atsuo Yanagisawa, MD, PhD. (Professor, Kyorin University, Tokyo).

    To read the treatment protocol information in English: http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n07.shtml
    (Protocol in Chinese at http://www.doctoryourself.com/Corona...C_Protocol.pdf)

    Direct report from China
    OMNS Chinese edition editor Dr. Richard Cheng is reporting from China about the first approved study of 12,000 to 24,000 mg/day of vitamin C by IV. The doctor also specifically calls for immediate use of vitamin C for prevention of coronavirus (COVID-19).

    A second clinical trial of intravenous vitamin C was announced in China on Feb. 13th. In this second study, says Dr. Cheng,

    “They plan to give 6,000 mg/day and 12,000 mg/day per day for moderate and severe cases. We are also communicating with other hospitals about starting more intravenous vitamin C clinical studies. We would like to see oral vitamin C included in these studies, as the oral forms can be applied to more patients and at home.”

    Additional information at http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n11.shtml

    And on Feb 21, 2020, announcement has been made of a third research trial now approved for intravenous vitamin C for COVID-19.



    Dr. Cheng, who is a US board-certified specialist in anti-aging medicine, adds:

    “Vitamin C is very promising for prevention, and especially important to treat dying patients when there is no better treatment. Over 2,000 people have died of the COIV-19 outbreak and yet I have not seen or heard large dose intravenous vitamin C being used in any of the cases. The current sole focus on vaccine and specific antiviral drugs for epidemics is misplaced.”

    He adds that:

    “Early and sufficiently large doses of intravenous vitamin C are critical. Vitamin C is not only a prototypical antioxidant, but also involved in virus killing and prevention of viral replication. The significance of large dose intravenous vitamin C is not just at antiviral level. It is acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) that kills most people from coronaviral pandemics (SARS, MERS and now NCP). ARDS is a common final pathway leading to death.

    “We therefore call for a worldwide discussion and debate on this topic.”

    News of vitamin C research for COVID-19 is being actively suppressed
    Anyone saying that vitamin therapy can stop coronavirus is already being labeled as “promoting false information” and promulgating “fake news.” Even the sharing of verifiable news, and direct quotes from credentialed medical professionals, is being restricted or blocked on social media. You can see sequential examples of this phenomenon at my Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/themegavitaminman .

    Indeed, the World Health Organization (WHO) has, literally, met with Google and Facebook and other media giants to stop the spread of what they declare to be wrong information. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/02/14/...mpression=true

    Physician-directed, hospital-based administration of intravenous vitamin C has been marginalized or discredited. Scientific debate over COVID-19 appears to not be allowed.

    Ironically, Facebook, blocking any significant users’ sharing of the news of approved vitamin therapy research, is itself blocked in China by the Chinese government. As for the internet, yes, China has it. And yes, it is censored. But, significantly, the Chinese government has not blocked this real news on how intravenous vitamin C will save lives in the COVID-19 epidemic. Here is the protocol as published in Chinese: http://orthomolecular.org/resources/...6n11-chi.shtml

    Medical orthodoxy obsessively focuses on searching for a vaccine and/or drug for coronavirus COVID-19). While they are looking for what would be fabulously profitable approaches, we have with vitamin C an existing, plausible, clinically demonstrated method to treat what coronavirus patients die from: severe acute respiratory syndrome, or pneumonia.

    And it is available right now.

    Read the full press release at Orthomolecular.com. https://orthomolecular.activehosted....8cbe183b9.142&

    Comment on this article at HealthImpactNews.com. https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/mo...nsored-in-u-s/ "
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    Liposomal vitamin C is more easily absorbed because of the lipid coating. Larry Cook (thanks to John) is good here



    It is possible to DIY a very useful recipe. The cost of the equipment is an issue but it will pay for itself over time and you can make for your friends.

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    How to Make Liposomal Vitamin C

    Update 2014-2015: A fellow researcher by the name of Philip provided us with a new way to make accurate liposomal vitamin C every time. The emphasis is on using sunflower lecithin powder, not soy lecithin.
    Liposomal Vitamin C - Mixing Formula
    This formula was produced after many tests using diverse milligram measurements of lecithin and ascorbic acid to one litre of distilled water and completing the ultrasonic cycle. At the end of each process the results were observed, until finally the successful blend was achieved. By following this formula you will have 100 percent success every time.
    The formula for making 1 litre liposomal vitamin C.
    What you will need:
    · 88 grams sunflower lecithin powder. (See notes at end.)
    · 27 grams ascorbic acid (vitamin C).
    · One litre of steam-distilled water.
    · One 2 litre flat-bottomed borosilicate glass flask.
    · One 1 litre flat-bottomed borosilicate glass flask.
    · Two 200 millilitre flat-bottomed borosilicate glass flasks.
    · A glass rod or glass spoon. Do not use metal.
    · A small Pyrex glass saucepan.
    · A milligram scale
    · An electric hand whisk or a food blender with a glass mixing bowl.
    · An ultrasonic cleaner of 2 litre capacity. (See notes at end.)
    · A 1 litre glass bottle. (Do not use plastic.)
    The process:
    Pour 900 millilitres steam-distilled water into the 2 litre borosilicate glass flask.
    Weigh 88 grams of sunflower lecithin, add it to the above and stir with glass spoon or glass rod.
    Pour 100 millilitres steam-distilled water into a glass saucepan and bring to near boiling.
    Weigh 27 grams ascorbic acid (vitamin C) and place it into a 200 millilitre borosilicate glass flask. When the water in 3 above is near boiling pour it over the ascorbic acid and swirl it until dissolved. (This happens very quickly when using very hot water.)
    Then, partly fill the saucepan with cold water and place the 200ml borosilicate glass flask with dissolved ascorbic acid into it to cool. When it is sufficiently cool or cold pour the ascorbic acid fluid into the 2 litre borosilicate glass flask and stir with the glass rod or glass spoon. Put a saucer or plate on top and allow it to stand for several hours or overnight.
    Use the electric hand food whisk for five minutes to blend the lecithin and ascorbic acid mix. (Use a food blender if you do not have an electric food whisk.)
    Pour the now thoroughly blended lecithin and ascorbic acid, (but not yet liposomal), into the 1 litre flat bottomed borosilicate glass flask and place it into the ultrasonic unit.
    Fill the steel well of the ultrasonic unit with water to its maximum level and switch on, and let it run it for a total of 100 minutes. Your ultrasonic unit probably has short timing durations, in which case, switch it on again and let it run until you complete the full 100 minutes. Periodically stir the solution with the glass spoon or glass rod.
    Now you have the best mix of liposomal vitamin C, which you can pour into a 1 litre glass bottle and place it into the fridge to use when needed.
    A note on ultrasonic frequencies
    When the lecithin-ascorbic acid mix is poured directly into the steel well of the ultrasonic unit the ultrasonic vibrations will cause nanoparticles of metal to migrate into the liposomal vitamin C solution. Therefore it is better to use borosilicate glass as the receptacle to hold the lecithin-ascorbic acid solution. The ultrasonic waves pass from the metal bottom of the ultrasonic unit directly through the borosilicate glass flask and into the fluid. (For good reason, scientific laboratories use borosilicate glass, rather than metal for their research work.)
    The ultrasonic cleaner machine needs to be of sufficient size – 2 litres to hold the 1 litre flat bottomed borosilicate flask. Small jewellery ultrasonic cleaners are not suitable for this purpose.
    Sometimes you will notice a very thin film of sediment at the bottom of your bottle of liposomal vitamin C – just swill it around and pour it into your glass and drink. The occasional tiny amount of sediment is because not all particles of sunflower lecithin are equal; some are slightly larger and will eventually sink to the bottom after the ultrasonic cycle. Bear in mind also that all activities are influenced by Lunar Cycles that influence result.
    Do not use soy lecithin! Period! All forms of soy products that have not gone through a fermentation process are harmful to health, including soymilk and Tofu. Use only organic sunflower lecithin powder. (I purchase organic sunflower lecithin from Germany.)
    Use a glass spoon, not metal or plastic, for measuring; mixing can be performed with a glass rod.
    Borosilicate glass flasks can be purchased from a laboratory supplier; purchase thick walled borosilicate glass.
    Update 2014-2015: Another fellow researcher by the name of Chris provided us with a new and novel way to make the highest quality liposomal vitamin C.
    You can visit his website by clicking HERE.
    Vitamin C is the most used supplement in the world. There is good reason for this as the science behind the many benefits of vitamin C is solid. Dr. Svent Gyorgi and Dr. Linus Pauling performed innumerable experiments proving that man, unlike most animals, is dependent upon vitamin C for a healthy existence. For decades we have relied upon various ascorbic formulas for our supplemental needs, but now a whole new vista opens up with Liposomal technology.
    Increase Absorption Dramatically - Regular vitamin C is absorbed at approximately 19%, the balance remains in the gastrointestinal tract to attract water and loosen the bowels. Nanotechnology, liposomalized vitamin C is absorbed at 93%, measurable in the blood stream. A 390% increase in absorption! Get IV results with oral dosage!Heat one cup of distilled water in a ceramic coated or stainless steel pan on your stove (do not heat it in a microwave oven) until almost boiling.
    Pour the water into your blender and add three level tablespoons of lecithin and blend until all of the lecithin is totally dissolved in the water.
    In one cup of cold distilled water, dissolve one level tablespoon of ascorbic acid. Make sure it is totally dissolved, very important!
    Add the ascorbic acid mixture to the lecithin mixture and blend well.
    Pour the mixture into the ultrasonic cleaner and turn it on. Stir frequently.
    The cleaner will turn itself off about every two minutes or so. You continue to stir frequently and turn the cleaner back on until ALL of the foam is gone. Repeat: Continue to stir and turn the cleaner back on until ALL OF THE FOAM IS GONE!! This will take about 30 minutes or so. When done you will have a mix that is about the color of milk. There will be some settling but shouldn't be much, less than 5% of the mix or so.
    When done, pour mix into a reseal able GLASS jar and store in your refrigerator.
    Take one teaspoon full of mix once a day.
    You can experiment with this amount after you have taken it for awhile to see how it effects you.
    Take on an empty stomach and wait at least 15 minutes before eating anything.
    Many take it in the morning before breakfast.
    It is really sour tasting so many chase it with water to get the taste out of the mouth.
    Another Excellent Recipe is Shown Here:
    This recipe will give you a product between 7.0 and 7.5 (measured with Alkalive pH Stix) or similar pH to human blood so there is no risk of over acidifying your blood should you take significant amounts of your homemade Liposomal Vitamin C Ascorbate.
    (Blood pH is tightly controlled by the body at near 7.35 pH. If your blood pH were much above or below that number you would be a very sick person.)
    Creating an identical pH in your liposomal brew is simply a matter of carefully adjusting the level of bicarbonate of soda.
    This Vitamin C Ascorbate recipe is a compilation of several postings on forums and Pdazzler’s own trials in the kitchen.
    Using a small (2 cup) Ultrasonic cleaner, (Item #03305, obtainable from Harbor Freight @ about $30.00), we performed the following:
    1. In qt mixing jar pour 1 cup of distilled water. Add 3 level Tablespoons of granular soy lecithin (NOW has non-genetically modified soy lecithin) and agitate vigorously for 3 – 5 minutes.
    Then place the lecithin mixture in the refrigerator for two or more hours. (You can leave in refrigerator overnight if you prefer.) This allows lecithin granules to soak up water for easy mixing into solution.
    Note: Mixing can be accomplished easier if you raise the temperature of the distilled water being used to 45 degrees Celsius (113 degrees Fahrenheit). I have found this unnecessary in getting high quality mixtures but others have found this warmer temperature helpful.
    After 2 hour soaking period vigorously agitate the mixture for another 3 – 5 minutes. At the conclusion there should be no lecithin granules visible. Set this smooth lecithin mixture aside.
    2. Dissolved 1 level Tablespoon of Pharmaceutical grade Vitamin C powder in 2 oz. of distilled water. We recommend you use a 6 oz. or larger screw lid jar so you can shake vigorously.
    3. Dissolve 1 Heaping Tablespoon of bicarbonate of soda (Arm & Hammer is just fine and aluminum free despite the inferences by other companies that their's are aluminum free) in 2 oz. of distilled water using a separate 6 oz. or larger screw lid jar. Shake or agitate the mixture 3 minutes or until soda dissolved.
    *One mole of sodium bicarbonate is 84 grams, and one mole of ascorbic acid is 176 grams. So, the correct (stoichiometric) ratio of sodium bicarbonate to ascorbic acid is 84/176 = 0.477. For example, it would take 477 milligrams of sodium bicarbonate to neutralize 1000 milligrams of ascorbic acid.
    **What follows is often the most difficult part of the process for those new to making homemade liposomal Vitamin C Ascorbate.
    While stirring the Vitamin C / distilled water solution very slowly pour/dribble the dissolved bicarbonate of soda/water mixture into the Vitamin C / distilled water solution. (Pour soda solution very slowly as the resulting mixture will bubble. By pouring slowing and constantly stirring you will be able to mix the two without bubbling over.)
    At the conclusion of mixing the bicarbonate of soda mixture into the Vitamin C mixture all bubbling will cease. If you have any soda settled in the jar pour the resulting total mix together into that jar, swirl and pour the resulting Vitamin C / Bicarbonate of Soda mixture into the Ultrasonic Cleaner.
    4. Pour the Lecithin solution into ultrasonic cleaner bowl with the Vitamin C / Bicarbonate of Soda mixture and stir the contents together.
    5. Turn the ultrasonic cleaner on and using a plastic straw (leaving the top of the cleaner opened), gently, slowly, stirred the contents.
    Note: The cleaner will, automatically, self-stop about every 2 minutes. Just push ON button to continue. Repeat for a total of 6 series (12 – 18 minutes). By that time the entire solution should be blended into a cloudy, homogeneous, milk-like mixture. The LET solution is now well formed.
    You can raise the level of encapsulation by continuing several more ultrasonic cycles if desired.
    This protocol furnishes 12 grams (12000mg.) of Vitamin C Ascorbate. At an estimated/theoretical 70% – 90% encapsulation efficiency, 8400 mg would be of theLET type. This solution will keep, acceptably, at room temperature for 3 to 4 days. Refrigerated, it will keep much longer.
    Note: A larger, more powerful, ultrasonic cleaner is available at Harbor Freight. Item number 91593. 2+ liters, for about $80.00. Both units perform well. The larger unit will allow you to make higher quality liposomal or more encapsulated supplement at one time, depending on the amount you mix.
    This article was written and submitted by an anonymous Australian researcher and this method has yielded excellent results everytime we have use it. For informational and educational purposes only. Void where prohibited.
    https://www.quantumbalancing.com/liposomalC.htm

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    Vitamin D reduces the chance of getting the flu. However Vitamin D without Vitamin K2 leads to arterial calcification, so Vitamin K2 should be taken along with Vitamin D. Vitamin D and Vitamin K2 require cofactors including magnesium, zinc and vitamin A to work well. Organic magnesium is very bioavailable, but not magnesium oxide, which has a bioavailability of only 4%.

    Therefore, to resist the flu without getting side effects like arterial calcification, people should take a supplement with Vitamin D, Vitamin K2, and organic magnesium. Supplemental Vitamin K2 comes in the form of menatetrenone (MK-4) and/or menaquinone-7 (MK-7). An intake of 1,500 mcg/day of MK-4 is necessary to observably carboxylate osteocalcin, while only 45 to 90 (average of 67.5) mcg/day of MK-7 is necessary, so MK-7 is about 1,500 / 67.5 = 22 ~ 20 times more powerful. Therefore if a supplement contains Vitamin K2, but does not say what amount is in the form of MK-7, there is no way to know if it has enough MK-7 to have a significant effect. It should have at least 45 mcg of Vitamin K2 MK-7, more will have a greater protective effect, but also have a greater chance of causing adverse effects.

    Looking through the supplements listed by labdoor, and by multivitaminguide, only four multivitamins had Vitamin D to protect against the flu, along with organic magnesium, and a sufficient Vitamin K2 MK-7 to prevent arterial calcification. In alphabetic order, those supplements were Controlled Labs - Orange Triad Multi with 120 mcg of Vitamin K2 in 6 tablets, Douglas Laboratories - Ultra Preventive X with 45 mcg of Vitamin K2 in 8 capsules, Legion - Triumph Multivitamin for Men/Women both with 100 mcg of Vitamin K2 in 8 capsules, and Naturelo - One Daily for Men/Women both in 1 capsule with 120 mcg of Vitamin K2, Whole Food for Men/Women both in 4 capsules, also with 120 mcg of Vitamin K2.

    Only Naturelo - One Daily for Men/Women gives a sufficient amount of Vitamin K2 with only one capsule, all other products require multiple capsules to get a sufficient amount of Vitamin K2.

    Multivitamins typically have around 1,000 IU of Vitamin D. This is helpful, but to further reduce flu risk, more is better. If taking Vitamin K2, then up to 4,000 IU/day of Vitamin D is very safe, so besides the multivitamin, an extra 3,000 IU/day from three 1,000 IU Vitamin D drops, or two 10,000 IU capsules per week should be very safe. If the flu is rampant in an area, then for even more protection, it would be worth taking up to 10,000 IU/day by capsule or drops, or one 50,000 IU capsule per week.

    Below are some other multivitamins that were analyzed, with their deficiencies in brackets.

    Advocare Coreplex (No Vitamin K2)
    Amway Nutrilite Daily (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Applied Nutrition Men's Liquid Soft-Gel Multivitamin (No Vitamin K2)
    Bodybuilding.com Foundation Series Multivitamin (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Carlson Labs Super 2 Daily (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    CBH Super Multivitamin For Men And Women (Unknown amount of Vitamin K2 MK-7)
    Child Life Essentials Multivitamin & Mineral (No Vitamin K2)
    Deva Vegan Multivitamin (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Dr. Mercola Children's Multivitamin/Whole Food Multivitamin (No Vitamin K2)
    Garden of Life Vitamin Code for Men/Women (No Vitamin K2)
    GNC Mega Men® One Daily (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Heaven Sent Naturals Balanced Essentials (No Vitamin K2)
    Herbalife Formula 2 Multivitamin Complex (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Irwin Naturals Men/Women's Living Green Liquid-Gel Multi (No Vitamin K2)
    Kirkland Signature Daily Multi/Adults 50+ Mature Multi (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Life Extension Two Per Day (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    MaxiSorb Max For Men (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    MegaFood Women Over 40, One Daily (No Magnesium, No Vitamin K2)
    MET-Rx Active Man (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Myogenix MyoVite (No Vitamin K2)
    MusclePharm Armor-V (No Magnesium)
    Natrol My Favorite Multiple, Original Multivitamin (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Nature Made Men's Pack/Multi For Her/Multi For Him (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Nature's Plus Animal Parade Liquid Multi-Vitamin (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Nature's Way Alive Liquid Multivitamin/Max Potency (No Vitamin K2)
    New Chapter Every Man/Woman's One Daily Multi/Organics, Only One Multi (Magnesium Oxide, Unknown amount of Vitamin K2)
    Now Foods Adam Men's/Eve Women's Multivitamin (Unknown amount of Vitamin K2 MK-7)
    Now Foods Daily Vits (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    One A Day Men's Health Formula/Women's Multivitamin Plus Healthy Skin Support/One A Day Women's 50+ Healthy Advantage (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    One A Day Multivitamin Gummies/Men's/Women’s Gummies Multivitamin (No Magnesium, No Vitamin K2)
    Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men Multivitamin (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Rainbow Light Kid's One (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Rainbow Light Men/Women's One (No Vitamin K2)
    Shaklee Vitalizer (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Source Naturals Life Force Multiple Iron Free Daily Multivitamin (No Vitamin K2)
    Trace Minerals Kids Multivitamin (No Vitamin K2)
    Trusted Nutrients Men's Daily Complete (No Vitamin K2)
    Twinlab Daily One Caps Multi-Vitamin and Multi-Minerals (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Universal Nutrition Animal Pak/Uni-Vite (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    Universal Naturals Daily Formula (Magnesium Oxide, No Vitamin K2)
    USANA HealthPak (Insufficient Vitamin K2 MK-7: 30 mcg)
    Vitafusion MultiVites Gummy Vitamins/Men's/Women's Gummy Multivitamin (No Magnesium, No Vitamin K2)
    Xtend-Life Total Balance Unisex (No Vitamin K2 MK-7, Insufficient Vitamin K2 MK-4: 180 mcg)
    Yummi Bears Organics Multivitamin (No Magnesium, No Vitamin K2)
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    Boil Tumeric and {take off stove, of course}, cover your head with a towel over it and inhale through nose and mouth. Great for getting rid of colds and flu. My lungs have felt better too.

    I learned that this is what they do down in South America.....

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    Colloidal silver is also great to use in an inhaler or nebulizer machine. Kills all the bad bugs in the lungs and sinuses.
    Blessings,
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    Baking Soda--Viruses are pH Sensitive
    Dr. Marc Sircus
    March 4, 2020
    https://drsircus.com/general/viruses-are-ph-sensitive/

    (many hyperlinks in the article to other relevant articles which are not provided here)

    "There are certain important subjects that doctors and world health officials do not want you to know about. The fact that most viruses and all physiological processes in the body are pH sensitive is one of them. Despite the fact that pH medicine offers us a key to treating viral infections that is easy, safe and inexpensive, they and even alternative health care providers just cannot wrap their heads around baking soda as one of the most important medicines we can use to fight the coronavirus.

    Researchers at the Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) in the US have uncovered the ‘Achilles’ heel’ of most viruses which plague mankind are on target, there are vulnerabilities that can be exploited but what they are looking at is not practical or helpful in our fight against viral infections. The so-called ‘Achilles heel’ (or vulnerable point) of most viruses can be exploited by pulling the pH rug out from under them.

    The ability of influenza virus to release its genome under different acidic conditions is linked to the transmission of influenza virus. The threshold pH at which fusion is first observed can vary among different serotypes of membrane protein hemagglutinin (HA) and may correlate with virulence. The acid stability of HA has been linked to the successful transmission of virus between avian and human hosts.

    Coronavirus infectivity is exquisitely sensitive to pH. For example, the MHV-A59 strain of coronavirus is quite stable at pH 6.0 (acidic) but becomes rapidly and irreversibly inactivated by brief treatment at pH 8.0 (alkaline). Human coronavirus strain 229E is maximally infective at pH 6.0. Infection of cells by murine coronavirus A59 at pH 6.0 (acidic) rather than pH 7.0 (neutral) yields a tenfold increase in the infectivity of the virus.

    Data suggests that the coronavirus IBV employs a direct, low-pH-dependent virus-cell fusion activation reaction. “Fusion of the coronavirus IBV with host cells does not occur at neutral pH and that fusion activation is a low-pH-dependent process, with a half-maximal rate of fusion at pH 5.5. Little or no fusion occurred above a pH of 6.0.”

    Raising pH (to an alkaline state) increases the immune system’s ability to kill bacteria, concludes The Royal Free Hospital and School of Medicine in London. The viruses and bacteria which cause bronchitis and colds thrive in an acidic environment. Keeping our pH in the slightly alkaline range of 6.8-7.2 can reduce the risk and lessen the severity of colds, sore throats and bouts of influenza.

    When we thoroughly add alkalinity we invariably have mild attacks of viral infections and the same is true for bacterial and fungus infections. There is significant decrease in median number of colony forming bacteria and fungi in the lungs of pneumonia patients when sodium bicarbonate is used compared to saline.

    Medical scientists have already concluded that a 8.4% solution of bicarbonate is safe inhibitory drug for respiratory bacterial, fungal, and mycobacterial growth. Slow infusions of NaHCO3 (bicarbonate) can also be used to treat non-anion gap metabolic acidosis and some forms of increased anion gap acidosis, a common enough problem in ICU patients with serious lung infections.

    Viruses infect host cells by fusion with cellular membranes at low pH. Thus they are classified as “pH-dependent viruses.” Drugs that increase intracellular pH (alkalinity within the cell) have been shown to decrease infectivity of pH-dependent viruses. Since such drugs can provoke negative side effects, the obvious answer are natural techniques that can produce the same results. There is no pharmaceutical that can compete with sodium bicarbonate for changing the pH of the bodies fluids.

    Fusion of viral and cellular membranes is pH dependent. “Fusion depends on the acidification of the endosomal compartment. Fusion at the endosome level is triggered by conformational changes in viral glycoproteins induced by the low pH of this cellular compartment.”[1] In membrane biology, fusion is the process by which two initially distinct lipid bilayers merge their hydrophobic cores, resulting in one interconnected structure. It has been suggested that the hepatitis C virus (HCV) infects host cells through a pH-dependent internalization mechanism. This HCVpp-mediated fusion was dependent on low pH, with a threshold of 6.3 and an optimum at about 5.5.[2] When pH drops to 6 or below, rapid fusion between the membranes of viruses and the liposomes occurs.

    Takeda Pharmaceutical is joining Gilead Sciences and AbbVie as the latest drugmaker to work on developing a coronavirus vaccine. The experimental drug would be derived from the blood of coronavirus patients who have recovered from the respiratory disease. “While we don’t know for sure that it will work, we think it’s definitely a relevant asset that could be of help here,” said Dr. Rajeev Venkayya, president of Takeda’s vaccines business. pH medicine will definitively work because viruses are pH dependent and sodium bicarbonate is available everywhere and costs almost next to nothing. In hospitals bicarbonate is easily administered intravenously.

    Inhibition of vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV) replication in LB cells by interferon (IFN) is pH sensitive. Using sensitive intracellular pH (pHi) indicators, researchers found that IFN treatment significantly raised the pHi. The increase in pHi correlated with an enhancement of the antiviral activity of IFN by primary amines. These results indicated that the IFN-induced increase in pHi may be responsible for the accumulation of G in the TGN, thereby producing G-deficient virus particles with reduced infectivity.[3]

    Solar light is another important factor producing viral
    inactivation, through the action of UV radiation. Viruses
    survive better in the dark than when exposed to sunlight.

    The foot-and-mouth disease virus (FMDV) capsid is highly acid labile and tends to dissociate into pentameric subunits at acidic condition to release viral RNA for initiating virus replication.

    Understanding Cell Voltage, pH and Oxygen Levels

    Wherever the body has low voltage, the cells begin to have problems that get more serious the lower the voltage (pH) goes. The lower the voltage goes, the lower the pH goes, and the lower oxygen levels go, and that means CO2 levels are going south as well. Chronic disease is associated with loss of voltage, lower pH values (acid conditions), as well as low O2 and CO2 levels. This means that alkaline tissues have more oxygen in them.

    Wherever the body becomes acidic, voltage drops as does tissue oxygen levels. What is pH after all? It is ultimately a measure of redox potential. Redox potential is a measure of whether electrons are available in surplus (and thus are “electron donors”) or whether electrons are deficient (and thus are “electron stealers”). Electrons are necessary for life and are needed for health and in high quantities for healing and the growth of new cells.

    Dr. David Brownstein wrote, “The human body is constantly removing old and injured cells and replacing them with healthy new cells. This process can only occur if the voltage of the cells is maintained at an optimal level. This process works more effectively when we are young as compared to when we are older. In the body (or in a solution), voltage is a direct reflection of pH, which is a measure of the degree of acidity or alkalinity of a solution, measured on a scale of 1 to 14. The human body’s pH level is a direct reflection of its voltage. A low pH reading (highly acidic) indicates a low voltage state. Conversely, a high pH reading (highly alkaline) means a high voltage state.”

    The amount of oxygen in cells is determined by voltage. If a cell has adequate voltage, it will also have adequate oxygen. If cellular voltage is low, the amount of oxygen in the tissues will be low. This applies to metabolism as well. When voltage and oxygen are low, metabolism becomes anaerobic, which means that oxygen is unavailable.

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    [1] Viral membrane fusion: is glycoprotein G of rhabdoviruses a representative of a new class of viral fusion proteins? Braz J Med Biol Res ;vol.38 no.6; Ribeirão Preto June 2005; http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?scri...X2005000600002

    [2] Hepatitis C virus glycoproteins mediate low pH-dependent membrane fusion with liposomes; Lavillette D et al; J Biol Chem. 2006 Feb 17;281(7):3909-17. Epub 2005 Dec 15; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16356932

    [3] Primary amines enhance the antiviral activity of interferon against a membrane virus: role of intracellular pH; Maheshwari RK et al; J Gen Virol.; 1991 Sep;72 ( Pt 9):2143-52. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1654374
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    Quote Posted by waves (here)
    Yin Chiao Chieh Tu Pien
    For colds/flu's.

    As common as aspirin in China, now one of the only of 1000's of Chinese concoctions popping up in major supermarkets/drug stores.

    Best brand to me is Plum Flower and I greatly prefer the 'blister packs' over the sugar coated pills. They are in sealed packets in another sealed packet in groups of 4, seem the most sterile and greatest attention to quality.

    IMPORTANT DIRECTIONS: A 'dose' is 4 pills. When the vaguest first thought crosses your mind... hmmm, do I feel something funny...take a dose. Take 3 or 4 more doses in 4-5 hour increments. DO NOT WAIT until symptoms worsen and you're 'sure' you're getting sick.

    I've done this for over 20 years. Worked every time. EVERY time.

    Be well.
    Thanks. I just ordered some.

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    Quote Posted by Antagenet (here)
    Quote Posted by waves (here)
    Yin Chiao Chieh Tu Pien
    For colds/flu's.

    As common as aspirin in China, now one of the only of 1000's of Chinese concoctions popping up in major supermarkets/drug stores.

    Best brand to me is Plum Flower and I greatly prefer the 'blister packs' over the sugar coated pills. They are in sealed packets in another sealed packet in groups of 4, seem the most sterile and greatest attention to quality.

    IMPORTANT DIRECTIONS: A 'dose' is 4 pills. When the vaguest first thought crosses your mind... hmmm, do I feel something funny...take a dose. Take 3 or 4 more doses in 4-5 hour increments. DO NOT WAIT until symptoms worsen and you're 'sure' you're getting sick.

    I've done this for over 20 years. Worked every time. EVERY time.

    Be well.
    Thanks. I just ordered some.
    Thanks. I do the same with Gelsenium 30c (Homeopathy) for colds, bugs etc. At the first twinge of anything amiss, I take two tablets every 2 hours for the first six doses, then the next day I take as and when needed, then stop (very important) upon feeling better. Works for me, every time, & I'll be using this If I feel that I may be coming down with this CV thingy.....We'll see if this works?
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    I POSTED THIS IN THE CORONA VIRUS THREAD/

    I may have the virus. I cannot be sure , didn't get a test due to the weekend but had these symptoms. Dry Hacking cough . Headache, some mild chills, sweats, and a 102 fever.

    Tuesday night I went to a hockey game in Brooklyn and an asian woman sitting behind and above me, sneezed and caughed without protecting it . I was right below her and this disturbed me for sure.
    Thursday morning the symptoms began but I was all ready. I began colloidal silver 500 ppm 3 times a day, Elderberry and electrolyte in big bottle of water which I have been drinking everyday. Liposomal VIT C 400 mg 3 times a day with Grape complete. Oil of Oregano ,Anti V formula , Vit D 3 and Coltsfoot. and a few other things

    As of today Saturday afternoon, Im feeling back to normal, fever gone, cough subsided , no headache or chills. So Covid virus or not I feel my plan worked and got me back in several days.
    Monday I will see if I can confirm this. If so, this worked for me

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    Here is a really interesting article about the curative properties of fresh air and sunlight for pneumonia, flu, and even sepsis:
    The Open-Air Treatment of PANDEMIC INFLUENZA
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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    I POSTED THIS IN THE CORONA VIRUS THREAD/

    I may have the virus. I cannot be sure , didn't get a test due to the weekend but had these symptoms. Dry Hacking cough . Headache, some mild chills, sweats, and a 102 fever.

    Tuesday night I went to a hockey game in Brooklyn and an asian woman sitting behind and above me, sneezed and caughed without protecting it . I was right below her and this disturbed me for sure.
    Thursday morning the symptoms began but I was all ready. I began colloidal silver 500 ppm 3 times a day, Elderberry and electrolyte in big bottle of water which I have been drinking everyday. Liposomal VIT C 400 mg 3 times a day with Grape complete. Oil of Oregano ,Anti V formula , Vit D 3 and Coltsfoot. and a few other things

    As of today Saturday afternoon, Im feeling back to normal, fever gone, cough subsided , no headache or chills. So Covid virus or not I feel my plan worked and got me back in several days.
    Monday I will see if I can confirm this. If so, this worked for me
    Doug ... I truly believe Colloidal Silver is the most effective single solution that can keep one virus n bacteria free "fullstop" , i like you follow a protocol similiar & i also never leave the home with my CS in the pocket via a nasal spray .
    But today .. bingo !!
    I will also be nebulizing my Colloidal Silver , gets deeper into the lungs & is much more effective .
    Cheers

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    I have an inexpensive little essential oil diffuser I got online from Vitacost that was less than $30 and works a charm.
    The label is worn off now from much use, but I think it's this one: https://www.vitacost.com/greenair-sc...l-oil-diffuser
    I've had other more expensive diffusers before, in which I barely put any oil because the directions cautioned against using too much, and also advised rinsing out with soapy water after each use.
    I couldn't even smell the essential oils!
    But this one I have now I can put LOTS of oil in and don't have to rinse it until I've used up a whole quart of water.
    I've been using a combo of oregano oil, rosemary, and lavender (sage often too) every day, which is very pleasant smelling and very good for healing and prevention.
    I can't take oregano oil internally because it makes me belch, but breathing it in feels wonderful.
    I think one can get a lot of relief for infected lungs and sinuses this way. Eucalyptus oil would be good too, and there are many others for specific conditions.
    Colloidal silver can be used this way as well.
    Sometimes topical treatment is better than taking things internally because so much depends on the state of your colon and how good your digestion is with the latter, while breathing things in can be instantly effective.
    Listening to some healing music or frequencies can help with staying positive. Keeping some healing plants around, like aloe, and taking fresh aloe gel internally is always helpful; among many other benefits (anti-viral, anti-fungal, anti-bacterial).
    It has lots of oxygen, which is always helpful when your lungs and sinuses are congested.
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    Dee Metrious/ I have been using colloidal silver for 40 years after I saw a woman friend putting it in her dogs eyes to cure it of infection.

    since, I have cured countless unirary track infections, absessed teeth, and any number of things that have come my way.
    Im not on any pharma products and live a pretty good and healthy life up to present at 66.

    I actually went 30 years without health ins. and navigated the terrain with self healing, colloidal leading the charge. I swear by it, and yet so many of my so called, "cutting edge" friends go running to their doctor asking , do you think I can use it ?? makes me laugh

    its harmless, and you would need to drink a swimming pool of it to turn you grey. its a cure all and cheap, and you body doesn't build an immunity to it like anti biotics.

    cheap and effective. no wonder they do all they can to play it down

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    Quote Posted by yiolas (here)
    Colloidal silver is also great to use in an inhaler or nebulizer machine. Kills all the bad bugs in the lungs and sinuses.
    Yes Doug ... my story is similiar since first learning about CS back in the late 90's "it leads the charge"
    I also must mention , i failed too see the post up higher were yiolas mentions using it with a nebulizer .
    I just ordered a portable unit to use along with drinking it & using the nasal spray .
    cheers

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    Please post all your flu knowledge on this thread. It can be your personal experience, or academic knowledge. This thread is public domain, the information is meant to be shared. The more this information gets out there, the safer we'll all be.

    This thread is for flu treatment and prevention only. Other discussion about the Wuhan Flu, like how bad it is, where it is, etc.., should go somewhere else, like the Wuhan Coronavirus thread.

    This is the same idea as the Folk Remedies for the Flu thread on the abovetopsecret forum.
    1. MMS 10 drops per day in water, enemas with MMS

    2.Avoid sugar, meat and dairy products

    3. Bowel movements 3times daily, use senna, magnesium, prunes, any non toxic product to promote evacuation and/or coffee or salt water enema once daily

    4. Drink 1 liter of water for each 50lbs body weight, distilled, Zen water filtered, Berkey filtered

    5. After accomplishing adequate hydration and BMs take turpentine and sugar as taught by Jennifer Daniels vitalitycapsules.com. Put in your email address and she will send a free report on how to use turpentine to boost health and immunity.
    I suggest only using turpentine from Diamondgforestproducts in Georgia unless you know a farmer who makes his own turpentine from pine sap.

    6. Activated charcoal 1 tsp at night to absorb toxins and make the work of the liver easier

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