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    THE FRUSTRATION OF A NASA EX-ENGINEER WITH THE UFO COMMUNITY

    Have you heard about the meeting of the USA ex-president Dwight D. Eisenhower with Pleiadians?
    I'm sure yes.
    Have you heard what Pleiadians have to say about it?
    I'm sure most of you, no.
    Even when... it's already on the internet.


    What's happening?

    Recently, the NASA ex-engineer Dale Harder had expressed his frustration about the deafness of the so-called "UFO researchers" in a live show of Cosmic Agency's channel on YouTube. Here you have his touching and honest words in the English original version, with Spanish subtitles:


    This was a response to a video in which Gosia from Cosmic Agency was addressing directly to the UFO researchers, after contacting a Pleiadian crew from Taygeta star for more than two years without being noticed by the UFO community.


    Despite of offering incredible, advanced and revolutionary knowledge which clearly does not come from the Earth, it seems nobody is interested on it. They are revealing what's behind highly important historic facts, as the main purpose of Giza pyramids (about to release now) or the meeting with ex-president Eisenhower... from the other side.

    Even so, nobody's listening.

    Everybody is interested only on famous names, conferences and selling books. The disclosure is always being promised, but it never comes. We have scaring and negative news instead - Wuhan Flu, turmoils, natural disasters... Apart from it, we can read the same kind of threads since 60's - Roswell, adbuctions, lights in the sky, etc. Kindergarden information, never going beyond of the same topics.
    Always searching for lights in the sky. Is it not clear enough that there's someone out there? If there's someone... They should have something to say, don't you think?

    Every contact with humans out of channeling is systematically denied, like the ET's don't have any right to use the Internet. Nevertheless, genuine channeling is becoming more and more difficult because of the 5G which affects highly human brain.

    You can get scientific information about 5G and how it really works from here:
    5G Space Appeal

    Intelligence Agencies working for the governments all around the world want to spread misinformation just for making people blindly following them and fulfilling their own wallets. They do that following governments' agendas: social engineering, forced vaccines, AI's implementation, depopulation...
    They are laughing at us in our faces. They know all the truth and they are hiding it on purpose. They monitor carefully every opinion, every dangerous person - for them.

    It's absolutely necessary to GROW UP and discover the truth by ourselves.
    Disclosure will never come from any government. Less from Vatican.
    STOP following famous researchers who are only interested on selling things and being famous, more than really finding the truth. It's a must if we want to become ourselves a holographic society.

    You can get an approximate idea of what a holographic society means by checking this video about how Taygetean society works:

    Gosia from Cosmic Agency and Robert from Despejando Enigmas - who's contacting the same crew as Gosia and shares the information to the Spanish world - are fighting to live decently.
    They are about releasing a book, after "someone" copied their information to sell his own book. They had to register the information they were giving for free just to avoid that, paying 100€ for registering. Besides they receive attacks and bullying, mainly from the Spanish world, almost every day. Absolute nonsenses are said about them all the time, like they are copying the information from a pdf file of Billy Meier's contact. Something completely impossible, since the Taygeteans were answering in a live chat at least twice. Gosia and Robert have more than 6000 pages of information, from hours and hours contacting the Taygetean crew almost every day.

    The famous researcher Alfred Webre caused a polemic about them, too. He met Gosia and Robert at the Ufology's World Congress in Barcelona 2019. They offered him contacting to Swaruu - the Taygetean who shared the most - and he showed himself very honored because of it. He sent Swaruu a request to be an official ET ambassador between the UFOP and the Earth, but it was denied by the United Federation Of Planets (UFOP). Right after that, he HARDLY BULLIED the contact through the social media saying that Swaruu was an Artificial Intelligence. He also sent letters to other UFO researchers to "aware them".
    Even in this same forum, the thread talking about Cosmic Agency a week ago misteriously "disappeared". I don't know who deleted it, but if someone deletes this one too, I will post it again. If it disappears for a third time in a row, I will formally claim to the moderators of Project Avalon and I will leave this place. I don't like sects.

    Everybody should be free to share their point of view, without censorship and unfair attacks.

    I finally share with you the link to all the videos shared in English by Gosia. Hours and hours of work just for receiving attacks and mistreatment.

    Cosmic Agency videos

    Please, take your time to check it out. Pick the videos of your interest, and THINK BY YOURSELF if I'm lying or not.
    Let's raise the humanity to another level, TO THE INFINITY AND BEYOND!
    Your beliefs make your decisions. Your decisions create your future. So your beliefs are your destiny. If you or someone else changes your mind, this changes your future.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] HISTORY IS BEING MADE IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES - but nobody's listening

    Many thanks, Marta — I'm copying this post here, that I made earlier today.

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    Hello, Everyone:

    Something important to say here, if I may. Maybe several things.

    First, I watched this video. Gosia released it on 31 January, but it's not been posted on the forum. (If it had been, I think it might have been soundly dismantled by now.) But it deserves an intelligent critique.


    I used to know the maverick physicist Dr Jack Sarfatti, who had a great sense of humor, a fierce intellect, and Italian blood. He'd enjoy jousting with his colleagues, and the audience would greatly enjoy the interactions. His favorite put-down was to say: "That's not even wrong."

    But here, in response to this video, Sarfatti might lose his ever-present wry smile and wit. His response to the sheer silliness featured here might be unprintable.

    Now, if you go to Gosia's channel, and check the Community tab, you'll see some comments about Avalon. Among them is that this is a "dark place" and that I "work for the CIA". <sigh!!>
    (Side note: one commenter, Temijin, shared that their application to join Avalon had been "rejected". It might have been, but because they didn't apply under that username, I was unable to check. There are actually three categories of response to an application: approval, rejection (always polite), or to please re-apply because there wasn't enough information there. Any application not in English is automatically in the last category, where we ask the applicant to please re-send their application in English. Anyone who's ever disappointed by our response is more than welcome to write to ask why they weren't approved, and I will always reply personally.)

    So what follows is for those reading this who feel this is an 'attack'. Not so. I know Gosia (Avalon member Malgorzata), and she's a beautiful, heart-centered soul who always means the best. That I definitely know. So there's absolutely no 'attack' on her here.

    But Gosia, you're being fooled.

    "Taken for a ride", as they say in English. Now I'm certain. Whoever's sending you these messages
    1. Is human.
    2. Has a great imagination.
    3. Knows little or no real science.
    Avalon's tagline is "where science and spirituality meet". In this coronavirus video, there's no spirituality, and definitely not a tiny smidgeon of science.

    Aside from the recommendation that we shouldn't get vaccinated unless there's something like smallpox on the loose (and every Avalon member would 100% agree, including myself), there's not a single accurate statement in the video about the virus. Not even close.

    It's poor fiction, at the level of an imaginative teenager but who doesn't know a thing about virology. For anyone who genuinely wants to learn more — and it's not a hanging offense not to know much about virology or epidemiology — make a big pot of tea or coffee and work through this Avalon thread. There's a LOT of accurate information there, compiled from many good sources.
    Finally, two points.

    1) In response to some posts that rightly point out that this isn't "channeled" information, that seems to be correct. But it's definitely "controversial", and that's being kind.

    Not because there's disagreement about it. Because we now know some of it is 100% definitely false, and (arguably) irresponsibly misleading. That then throws the entire whole claim into doubt — and that's being kind, too.

    At least Corey Goode hasn't said the novel coronavirus doesn't really exist. Even he and David Wilcock know better than that! When it comes to measuring this information against those discredited standards, we know there's a problem here.

    2) If such a thing ever happened to me (Gosia wrote that she was "pinching herself" that "this had happened to her"), I'd immediately form a close team of smart people to take their own independent look at what appeared to be happening.

    At least if information was coming at me over the internet from some strange source, I'd want someone to help me establish the IP address.

    And then I'd ask the Taygetans some of my own questions that don't come from a live chat. As in a fun 2010 Doctor Who episode, I'd ask them if they could please send over a neat, one-page proof of Fermat's Last Theorem. Or the Goldbach Conjecture. Or the Riemann Hypothesis. Or please share one or two photos of their home planet, or some of the animals that live there, or the inside of their ship.

    Gosia, please ask them that, and then see how whoever's sending all this stuff to you responds. Pay attention to the excuses they'll give that they can't do that. (And they will.)

    Now, if anyone's read all my post here (thank you! ) but NOT watched the video, please do that... it's only 15 mins long, and it's well worth your time.

    To Gosia: you're a very lovely person , but please pay attention here. You're leading a lot of people right down the garden path... again, as they say in English.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Many thanks, Marta — I'm copying this post here, that I made earlier today.

    Thank you very much for the information. I was so busy collecting all the videos and information for posting this thread. It took me many hours so I could not read it, I'm sorry.

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    Quote Posted by Marta (here)
    Even in this same forum, the thread talking about Cosmic Agency a week ago misteriously "disappeared". I don't know who deleted it, but if someone deletes this one too, I will post it again. [/B]
    Hi again, Marta — just to reassure you, nothing was deleted: the thread was moved here. And yes, we really do know it's hard to keep up with all the information. Avalon is a huge, high quality library. We don't delete threads unless there's been an error, like a duplication. That'd be like a librarian throwing away a book.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] HISTORY IS BEING MADE IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES - but nobody's listening

    spectrometer analysis?
    picking up samples with a tractor beam?
    the word in english is bonkers.

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    Quote Posted by snoman (here)
    spectrometer analysis?
    picking up samples with a tractor beam?
    the word in english is bonkers.
    Gosia didn't know what a spectrometer is. That's not a hanging offense! Many people don't.

    But she made a mistake by not looking it up. And whoever sent her the text she was reading didn't know what a spectrometer is, either.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Or please share one or two photos of their home planet, or some of the animals that live there, or the inside of their ship.
    Gosia, please ask them that, and then see how whoever's sending all this stuff to you responds. Pay attention to the excuses they'll give that they can't do that. (And they will.)
    Well said!

    I wonder if Gosia will do so?

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    Or please share one or two photos of their home planet, or some of the animals that live there, or the inside of their ship.
    Gosia, please ask them that, and then see how whoever's sending all this stuff to you responds. Pay attention to the excuses they'll give that they can't do that. (And they will.)
    Well said!

    I wonder if Gosia will do so?
    It'd be so easy for the Taygetans, if they're real (and while I was open-minded for a while, I'm now sure they're not) to do something simple to nudge the world to pay close attention.

    They could tell Gosia their craft would make a brief appearance at low altitude over Los Angeles (or New York, or London, or Barcelona, or Paris, or....) lasting exactly 2 minutes at 12 noon local time the next day.

    Just long enough for people to take some excellent, detailed photos.

    If that transpired as promised, I'd start to be very interested again. I mean Gosia absolutely no disrespect, but I'm afraid I feel certain that would never happen, and that she would never ask those kinds of questions. (And their coronavirus information is still silly nonsense!)

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    Quote Posted by snoman (here)
    spectrometer analysis?
    picking up samples with a tractor beam?
    the word in english is bonkers.
    Gosia didn't know what a spectrometer is. That's not a hanging offense! Many people don't.

    But she made a mistake by not looking it up. And whoever sent her the text she was reading didn't know what a spectrometer is, either.
    Illuminatis do know what a spectrometer is And Intelligence Agencies, too. They look for people with a high frequency to keep them controlled using this kind of tools. Our dear "men in black", "protecting the world from the evil aliens". Those who can awake the world, the sleeping starseeds.
    Your beliefs make your decisions. Your decisions create your future. So your beliefs are your destiny. If you or someone else changes your mind, this changes your future.

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    "Every contact with humans out of channeling is systematically denied..."

    I definitely don't deny anything systematically, but what has turned me off over the years is: After seeing my 20th channeling that says X is how the pyramids where made and X is what they are used for and I get 20 completely different X's, then I pretty much toss out all of them and find something else to be curious about.

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    I've moved this thread to the Known Hoaxes and Other Bad Information section. I've now watched a number of her videos, and Gosia is being deceived. She's a nice person, but I'm afraid it's as simple as that.

    Why she can't see this for herself is an interesting question I'll leave others to answer. She should know better.

    I have to say this:
    1. It's starting to look like another Corey Goode cult — maybe even more insidious, as Gosia is a far more appealing and pleasant person. The similarities are the ridiculousness of the information presented, and the credulity of a growing number of followers who seem unable to think clearly for themselves and blindly believe everything they hear, and want to hear — without checking a thing.
    2. Trust this nonsense at your own risk. We've seen all this before.

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    Ok, this definitely clarified my mind. Bill Ryan’s sect is completely glad to prepare people’s minds for a catastrophe like coronavirus, but the information which doesn’t benefit any government’s agendas is bullied and treated as a hoax. No logical explanations, just gossip. “Smart people don’t believe this”: dividing people between the “smart ones” and the others who listen to Cosmic Agency, who are the “stupid, bonkers, manipulated ignorants”. I leave the forum. I don’t care if you delete my answer. I know you will do it cause what I say is not according to the Bill Ryan’s directives. Good bye. This is not the place I was looking for. Enjoy your lies.
    Your beliefs make your decisions. Your decisions create your future. So your beliefs are your destiny. If you or someone else changes your mind, this changes your future.

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    Quote Posted by Marta (here)
    Enjoy your lies.
    No 'lies', Marta. We don't do that here. Not ever.

    Just clear thinking. Really.

    You're a super-nice and well-meaning person, and that's very easy to see.

    But it's very damaging to be blindly promoting this kind of false information, based solely on hope and belief.

    It's VERY obvious to many others that this is the work of a prankster human who's been taking Gosia (and all her followers) for a ride.

    I have some priority things to do here today, and I'd not really wanted to spend valuable time analyzing this whole story. But it's actually not that hard, and so I will invest a couple of hours later to do exactly that.

    Whether you choose to consider all this, of course, is totally up to you, and we'll always respect that.

    But as they say in Latin: caveat lector: let the reader beware.

    And if you choose not to beware (the word means be aware), then that's your sovereign personal choice as well.

    We all make our choices, and those always mold our lives, our relationships, and our personalities. That's what life, and learning, is all about. It might be one of the many reasons we're all here.
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    It's very hard to have your belief system challenged and exposed as everything in the life is dependent on its structure holding intact, however for a great many of us in these pursuits it's almost a rite of passage and inevitable.

    Growth can appear to be painful but it's how we let go and reorientate ourselves that matter and with that comes more maturity and integration and that's worth far more than what is perceived as having been lost.

    Basically it's priceless.

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    Quote Posted by Marta (here)
    Ok, this definitely clarified my mind. Bill Ryan’s sect is completely glad to prepare people’s minds for a catastrophe like coronavirus, but the information which doesn’t benefit any government’s agendas is bullied and treated as a hoax. No logical explanations, just gossip. “Smart people don’t believe this”: dividing people between the “smart ones” and the others who listen to Cosmic Agency, who are the “stupid, bonkers, manipulated ignorants”. I leave the forum. I don’t care if you delete my answer. I know you will do it cause what I say is not according to the Bill Ryan’s directives. Good bye. This is not the place I was looking for. Enjoy your lies.
    No sect here. Projecting I see here. Should look at yourself instead there.
    We want facts and critical thinking and real evidence. The problem arises these topics are rife with charlatans and gullible peoples trying to find "followers". You present nothing of tangible evidence and only words of someone's others about these magical things.

    The true golden way to get that "following" is actually having the physical evidence, but alas it's never there. All we find are alternative explanations from various individuals who go out of their way to present dubious claims of something or another. I find most often these claims are of mistaken beliefs and ideas in topics the speaker has no knowledge off, just something that sounded "good" or was flouting around as the current "topic" on the net. They spout fairy-tails asking for money. Why is it always about money in these things...

    Very few times do I find originality or actual knowledge. It's copy-paste topics and wordings just a different interpretation from the lack of critical info on the topic one is espousing to others as the way it is. Just another religion and belief. Not actual "knowledge" you know it to be. Only maybe this or maybe that, but trust me! And hand me that dollar.

    These videos some here were kind enough to investigate and look through to make up their mind about it usually is more than anyone will even bother with at all! Spending hours looking through videos and the people involved and possible explanations to figure out what it is about. Not anywhere do I find the quality of work the people on these forums go through to see if there is any validity or truth to the various things espoused around overall.
    The real world isn't about make-believe. When someone demands you to show your hand dismissing it outright doesn't gather trust. These topics require real evidence other than the promised words from someone or another.
    We have seen far too often people are easy to be fooled when they don't know about the topic you or another might be talking about.

    Dismissing your critics are part of the cabal or evil isn't good for you.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] HISTORY IS BEING MADE IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES - but nobody's listening

    Marta,
    Please see the below article and ask for telemetry from "The
    Taygetans" for the below array to search first.
    We should have scientific proof within a week if they are who they say they are !

    https://news.sky.com/story/technosig...-life-11934439

    PS. Bill's "sect" ?
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