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    There is competency in any field of endeavor and then there is 'competency' in the realm of the shrewd , clever and unethical. Without making these kinds of distinctions, Peterson doesn't make a full bodied case for the 'cream rising to the top.' He is ignoring or dismissing the ruthless and the oligarchic components that Dennis has laid out.
    I believe from what I understand from Peterson's writings that he does make this distinction. He would characterize "competency in the realm of the shrewd, clever and unethical" as corruption of the hierarchy--which he accepts as a transient aspect of all hierarchies, i.e. hierarchies are corruptible but cannot function indefinitely as such and are ultimately not sustainable. Peterson argues there must be a inherent holistic benefit to all participants or the hierarchy will collapse.

    Whether we can agree with this assessment or not is another issue entirely (as Dennis's bullet point list certainly demonstrates corrupted hierarchies are functioning, alive, and well).

    However, I would point out that the very fact that we highlight and recognize the corruption Peterson talks about is but a nascent development of the very remedy he argues is inevitable. Just my two cents on Peterson's discourse on the subject....

    Carry on…

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    A very interesting analysis of the caucus events in Iowa and what it portends from Dark Journalist in the first hour of Episode 81 in the X Series.
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    Try this:

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    There is competency in any field of endeavor and then there is 'competency' in the realm of the shrewd , clever and unethical. Without making these kinds of distinctions, Peterson doesn't make a full bodied case for the 'cream rising to the top.' He is ignoring or dismissing the ruthless and the oligarchic components that Dennis has laid out.
    I believe from what I understand from Peterson's writings that he does make this distinction. He would characterize "competency in the realm of the shrewd, clever and unethical" as corruption of the hierarchy--which he accepts as a transient aspect of all hierarchies, i.e. hierarchies are corruptible but cannot function indefinitely as such and are ultimately not sustainable. Peterson argues there must be a inherent holistic benefit to all participants or the hierarchy will collapse.

    Whether we can agree with this assessment or not is another issue entirely (as Dennis's bullet point list certainly demonstrates corrupted hierarchies are functioning, alive, and well).

    However, I would point out that the very fact that we highlight and recognize the corruption Peterson talks about is but a nascent development of the very remedy he argues is inevitable. Just my two cents on Peterson's discourse on the subject....

    Carry on…
    Peterson argues there must be a inherent holistic benefit to all participants or the hierarchy will collapse.

    A perfect metaphor that refutes this idea is Egypt under the pharoahs, Europe under the various Popes, etc..Once power is corralled by the corporate few and their military proxies, it is no longer the case...and it can go on for thousands of years. Oh, I forgot Rome. It did fall....eventually.

    Peterson understands Fascism and Communism but leaves out Corporatism. I have watched all of his videos, his long lectures, his emphasis on IQ, that he has been taken to task for. I am his age, his ethnicity, his nationality, etc...I can tell you where a lot of his ideas come from.

    I appreciate nearly all of his claims but do not think he is the be all and end all.

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    It's a shame that Dennis and Rakyt do not run for office. They would make a formidable team!

    I'd be honored just to hang out with Rahkyt, a very bright and compassionate guy - among the best and brightest. But this brings back a point Mike made about needing the best and brightest in positions of governance. I don't think we need that, or want that. I think we need to shift our thinking to embrace the "ordinary citizen*" as representatives, and that their job would be to carry out the collective will of the people, which would be gleaned via the new election process. There is a mistaken notion that we need "leaders." There are 3 branches in the US government, and their tasks are defined: legislators are supposed to write legislation, not lead. The judicial branch is supposed to adjudicate the laws that the legislators wrote, not lead. Only the executive branch is tasked with some variation of leadership, and really, it should be to lead the government body, not the citizenry. We citizens should be free to lead ourselves, within the constraints of the constitution and laws of the nation (which I would define as "freedom.") (Anarchists believe that we should be able to lead ourselves without any constraints - a lovely notion if everyone was evolved enough to do so, but utterly impossible other than as a notion.) The executive branch should lead the government and represent our nation to the other countries of the world.

    Where I do see a great fit for the brightest minds, tempered with compassion, is in composing and fleshing-out the list of topics that the next electoral cycle candidates would all need to respond to in writing (rather than voting for reps that would decide what issues to address, as is the current state.) That list of issues/topics would actually be the main "to do" list for the next 4 years for the legislators.

    I see that list as comprised of extremely hard-hitting, major issues, such as Monetary Reform (whether to break away from the Federal Reserve, whether to default on the national debt, whether to end the practice of money creation by debt, what, if anything, to back currency with...), Energy Reform (taking on the oil cartel syndicate, ending all oil subsidies, ending current hydrofracking practices, forcing the oil cartel to remove and clean up the disaster-in-waiting pipelines, reversing the Secrecy Act status of new energy technology, etc.)

    That list of topics and fleshing out the topics would require bright minds to compose, and would need to be from citizens also not pre-compromised by ties to the Global Corporate Network, as well as being tempered with compassion and not simply logic. AI would do a better job if all that was required is logic, which is why I stress the compassion attribute. The citizen authors of the topics would need to have a balance of logic and compassion.

    *(Until the mass media propaganda machine is neutered, there is a current problem that the citizenry contains a lot of (hopefully temporarily) "sub-ordinary"-minded individuals who don't actually think but rather succumb to the oligarch propaganda, which falls far below what I'm trying to describe as an "ordinary mind." If the "average" mentality is actually somewhat less than "ordinary", then the individuals would need to be mentally "above average.")


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    Try this: [you tube]WGJOj-ZSBW4[/you tube]


    Can I ask for a synopsis of what you gleaned from this Dark Journalist video, Onawah?


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    Great thread Dennis.
    In your recent comment therein lies the crux of democratic means to nationalistic self-governance, how best to define the "major issues for reform". Until we as a species reaffirm our common humanity, there will be constant division about the issues that are important to each group who would potentially be representatives to be elected to carry out agreed upon reforms.
    I agree that if the current oligarchic structure is an impediment to our common evolution as a species, you present some practical structural change ideas to the current paradigm. I live in a small community, somewhat isolated from large populated cities but also under the economic influence of nearby urban communities. We in our small community are feeling the pressures of expanding population growth, economic inequalities, and resultant harm to underlying ecosystems which support all of our existence on this planet.
    I encourage further discussion of these ideals and basic issues facing all of humankind.

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    I read the posts on this thread. I am not sure, doubting sometimes, but I think we will survive as a species. It confuses me a great deal that the intelligence that people have is often directed towards actions of self/earth destruction. There is incoherence between the heart and the mind IMO. Gabor Mate keys in on it that trauma splits us so we are incoherent. Inner disunity yields outer Disunion? IMO that's true. It starts inside and gets seen outside.

    I finally noticed Mike's thread on Jordan's illness but going to keep this video here as I think there is something related to the topic.

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    Peterson understands Fascism and Communism but leaves out Corporatism.
    That's because corporatism is fascism ─ literally.

    <deep sigh> I've been trying to put off saying this and getting involved in political threads again because past experience has shown me that US Americans in general tend to get upset when I mention this, but the truth of the matter is that the USA, as a nation, is a de facto fascist regime. And most US Americans won't see it that way, because they've been completely misled on account of what fascism is, what socialism is, and so on. US Americans tend to think that fascism is totalitarianism, as in Nazi Germany. Hitler and his fellow Nazis were certainly fascists, but Nazism was only one form of fascism ─ one in which ethnic issues took precedence over socio-economic issues.

    Fascism is a form of government whereby the true power over the nation lies with private corporations. Most fascist regimes also only have a single political party. Now, the USA has two officially recognized political parties ─ all other parties are lumped together under the moniker "Independent" (and for good reason too, if you think of it) ─ but both of those two officially recognized political parties are controlled by the same corporate entities. They also both strive toward the same goal ─ i.e. corporate power ─ and it is only in the execution of their methods that they differ.

    The US Republicans are nationalists and the US Democrats are globalists, but both parties are right-wing from the international perspective, and they both aim for corporate domination. Both parties also adhere to American Exceptionalism, which is a belief that the USA is somehow exceptional in its values ─ notwithstanding irrefutable exposure, time and time again, of how the US government continuously betrays the very values it claims to uphold.

    Let's take this apart even further. Fascist regimes all have a dictator. The USA has an elected leader, but this elected leader has the legal power to suspend the constitution and suspend any elections by declaring a nationwide state of emergency, effectively ensuring his or her continued presidency for as long as he or she deems necessary ─ for life, if they so wish. So instead of a president, what the USA actually has is an elected emperor.

    Fascist regimes also place high value on masculinity. Not only do you see this in the typical US American propaganda productions coming out of Hollywood, but you also see it in the body language of US politicians ─ even female ones. And somewhat related to that, fascist regimes are also militarist, with the US military's battle dress uniforms and the US military vehicles emanating overt masculine strength. You may not believe the following, but during the Vietnam War, the USAF even "accidentally" dropped survival packs over the Vietnamese jungle with maximum-sized condoms in them, so as to make the Vietnamese people who found those packs think that all US troops were, um, well-endowed.

    No nation in the world today is as militarist as the USA. Donald Trump even had tanks driving through the streets on 2019's Independence Day. And people may deny it all they want, but if you want to gather social status in the USA, then joining the US military is the way to go ─ and especially so if you join the US Marine Corps, an elite contingent with its own air force, its own logistics, its own special forces and so on, specifically created for fighting wars outside of the borders of the USA. In fact, the Marines are by law even precluded from operating within the US borders. Of course, once you return from the war as a wounded veteran, you no longer enjoy any special status. Then the US government only considers you an embarrassing nuisance anymore.

    Other significant traits of fascist regimes are nationalism, patriotism ─ which is actually only a weaker form of nationalism ─ and emphasis on citizenship, combined with propaganda and indoctrination throughout one's entire life by way of the education system, the (corporately controlled) mainstream media and official government communication. Yet, the last thing a fish would ever question is the water it swims in. The average US American is completely oblivious of how brainwashed they are, and completely unfamiliar with any other culture than their own. They also don't see that the US Democrats are not "the left", because there is no real "left" in the USA. The US Democrats only sit marginally to the left of the US Republicans, and from the international standpoint, both parties are right-wing and authoritarian.

    For those of you who believe that the USA stands for freedom and democracy, I have only two words: Patriot Act. Enough said.

    And as a bonus ─ I might as well spit it all out now ─ I'm also going to address those who believe that Donald Trump would be fighting the so-called Deep State™. Donald J. Trump is as corporatist as it gets ─ he owes his entire fortune to the corporate world ─ so how or why would he ever want to fight them? Quite the contrary, he's making the USA into a tax haven for the big corporations, and he's annulling the Endangered Species Act and other environmental protection acts so that Big Coal™ and Big Oil™ can have free reign.

    Face it, US Americans, you are living in a fascist nation. And it is high time to start contemplating something other than what you've been indoctrinated with. Capitalism inevitably leads to corporatism, and corporatism quickly turns into fascism proper. In the USA, this had already been the case since before World War II.

    Dennis is on the right track ─ kudos to you, Dennis. What the western world needs is mass civil disobedience, with a complete overhaul of the political and electoral systems as an immediate objective. But it's not going to go down easily, because grassroots movements can and do get hijacked ─ it's what happened with the hippie movement in the 1960s, it's what happened with the Occupy movement, and it's what happened when Donald Trump started running for president. Trump and others like him ─ e.g. Nigel Farage in the UK ─ are merely populists, and populists are people who know how to hijack the public opinion by appealing unto the deep frustrations of the common man, channeling them, putting a face on the enemy, and then using that to their own advantage. Trump does not represent the will of the people. Trump hijacked the will of the people. Likewise for Farage in the UK, and now they're stuck with their Brexit over there, which is going to cost them all dearly.

    There, I've said it.
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    One can not be a unity consciousness and support children in cages on the border.

    One can not be love and light while Guantanamo Bay is open and violating rights of human beings.

    We are still occupying, now in direct contradiction of a request of a sovereign government, Iraq.

    We are still occupying Afghanistan.

    9-11 has not be re examined. . Have we forgotten here that this is an issue? Wouldnt a New York Real Estate Developer be in the perfect position to make the case that it was an inside job>? But not suprised here but Guiliani is part of the 9-11 cover up

    JFK files WERE NOT RELEASED. Wouldnt a political outsider with no party ties be the perfect person to start a real look at this area?

    RFK has not be re examined.

    The Patriot Act is still in Force.

    AUMF is still in force.

    People are still in jail for cannabis and hemp or any drug really.

    The military is getting more money than ever.

    We just stood up a new Branch of the UCC to dominate and control space as a war fighting domain. Side note, this should be dominating this board as it is project avalon but for some reason nobody is talking about it.

    Trump brags about spending the most ever on the military.

    Trump supporters are militarist. They are low key into the authoritarianism that is going on. Otherwise they would reject trump as he has fully embraced it, that and Evangelical lunacy.

    Literally, Jeffrey Epstein died while in trumps and Barrs custody. DIRECTLY. He was in federal custody. And then got murdered or whatever happened. And somehow this doesnt paint Trump, a man who has said how young Epstein likes em, as the sick pedo he is. Clinton is just as connected to Epstein as Trump yet Trump gets a pass? Did you forget that Barrs dad got Epstein his job teaching at that private school?

    This my friends really shows the game for what it is.

    This is the real dis union. "spiritual people" who support a direct associate of Epstein.

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Peterson understands Fascism and Communism but leaves out Corporatism.
    That's because corporatism is fascism ─ literally.

    <deep sigh> I've been trying to put off saying this and getting involved in political threads again because past experience has shown me that US Americans in general tend to get upset when I mention this, but the truth of the matter is that the USA, as a nation, is a de facto fascist regime. And most US Americans won't see it that way, because they've been completely misled on account of what fascism is, what socialism is, and so on. US Americans tend to think that fascism is totalitarianism, as in Nazi Germany. Hitler and his fellow Nazis were certainly fascists, but Nazism was only one form of fascism ─ one in which ethnic issues took precedence over socio-economic issues.

    Fascism is a form of government whereby the true power over the nation lies with private corporations. Most fascist regimes also only have a single political party. Now, the USA has two officially recognized political parties ─ all other parties are lumped together under the moniker "Independent" (and for good reason too, if you think of it) ─ but both of those two officially recognized political parties are controlled by the same corporate entities. They also both strive toward the same goal ─ i.e. corporate power ─ and it is only in the execution of their methods that they differ.

    The US Republicans are nationalists and the US Democrats are globalists, but both parties are right-wing from the international perspective, and they both aim for corporate domination. Both parties also adhere to American Exceptionalism, which is a belief that the USA is somehow exceptional in its values ─ notwithstanding irrefutable exposure, time and time again, of how the US government continuously betrays the very values it claims to uphold.

    Let's take this apart even further. Fascist regimes all have a dictator. The USA has an elected leader, but this elected leader has the legal power to suspend the constitution and suspend any elections by declaring a nationwide state of emergency, effectively ensuring his or her continued presidency for as long as he or she deems necessary ─ for life, if they so wish. So instead of a president, what the USA actually has is an elected emperor.

    Fascist regimes also place high value on masculinity. Not only do you see this in the typical US American propaganda productions coming out of Hollywood, but you also see it in the body language of US politicians ─ even female ones. And somewhat related to that, fascist regimes are also militarist, with the US military's battle dress uniforms and the US military vehicles emanating overt masculine strength. You may not believe the following, but during the Vietnam War, the USAF even "accidentally" dropped survival packs over the Vietnamese jungle with maximum-sized condoms in them, so as to make the Vietnamese people who found those packs think that all US troops were, um, well-endowed.

    No nation in the world today is as militarist as the USA. Donald Trump even had tanks driving through the streets on 2019's Independence Day. And people may deny it all they want, but if you want to gather social status in the USA, then joining the US military is the way to go ─ and especially so if you join the US Marine Corps, an elite contingent with its own air force, its own logistics, its own special forces and so on, specifically created for fighting wars outside of the borders of the USA. In fact, the Marines are by law even precluded from operating within the US borders. Of course, once you return from the war as a wounded veteran, you no longer enjoy any special status. Then the US government only considers you an embarrassing nuisance anymore.

    Other significant traits of fascist regimes are nationalism, patriotism ─ which is actually only a weaker form of nationalism ─ and emphasis on citizenship, combined with propaganda and indoctrination throughout one's entire life by way of the education system, the (corporately controlled) mainstream media and official government communication. Yet, the last thing a fish would ever question is the water it swims in. The average US American is completely oblivious of how brainwashed they are, and completely unfamiliar with any other culture than their own. They also don't see that the US Democrats are not "the left", because there is no real "left" in the USA. The US Democrats only sit marginally to the left of the US Republicans, and from the international standpoint, both parties are right-wing and authoritarian.

    For those of you who believe that the USA stands for freedom and democracy, I have only two words: Patriot Act. Enough said.

    And as a bonus ─ I might as well spit it all out now ─ I'm also going to address those who believe that Donald Trump would be fighting the so-called Deep State™. Donald J. Trump is as corporatist as it gets ─ he owes his entire fortune to the corporate world ─ so how or why would he ever want to fight them? Quite the contrary, he's making the USA into a tax haven for the big corporations, and he's annulling the Endangered Species Act and other environmental protection acts so that Big Coal™ and Big Oil™ can have free reign.

    Face it, US Americans, you are living in a fascist nation. And it is high time to start contemplating something other than what you've been indoctrinated with. Capitalism inevitably leads to corporatism, and corporatism quickly turns into fascism proper. In the USA, this had already been the case since before World War II.

    Dennis is on the right track ─ kudos to you, Dennis. What the western world needs is mass civil disobedience, with a complete overhaul of the political and electoral systems as an immediate objective. But it's not going to go down easily, because grassroots movements can and do get hijacked ─ it's what happened with the hippie movement in the 1960s, it's what happened with the Occupy movement, and it's what happened when Donald Trump started running for president. Trump and others like him ─ e.g. Nigel Farage in the UK ─ are merely populists, and populists are people who know how to hijack the public opinion by appealing unto the deep frustrations of the common man, channeling them, putting a face on the enemy, and then using that to their own advantage. Trump does not represent the will of the people. Trump hijacked the will of the people. Likewise for Farage in the UK, and now they're stuck with their Brexit over there, which is going to cost them all dearly.

    There, I've said it.



    Even though there are diehard Trump supporters at Avalon who will despise you for pointing out the reality of Trump as fascist and militarist, and the USA, Inc. as a fascist nation, I think it is critically important that you and others that can see the truth to speak up. I applaud you. Actually, I think that those who can see the truth are duty-bound to speak the truth.

    I find it quite odd that Avalon is a gathering place for people who routinely dissect and reject propaganda and lies, who lived through 9/11 and are living through the unfolding agenda of the biggest and most obvious false flag operation in history, yet are fooled into supporting the 9/11 perpetrators and lauding them, cheering on the corporatists and warmongers, cheering on fascism. It can't just be fluoride in the drinking water.

    The work of Edward Bernays, plus the oligarch's think tanks, have mapped the psychology to control the human mind, and the oligarchs' propaganda division has applied their expertise very effectively to US citizenry - said to be the most propagandized people in history. The propaganda is all or at least primarily all fear-based, rarely overt, usually insidious. Fear of "loss of freedom", fear of immigrants (in a nation of immigrants!), fear of the other wing of the "republi-crat" political party, fear of loss of property or employment, and perhaps most amazingly, a promoted fear of democracy, cooperation, and sharing (fear of any form of socialism.) The oligarch complete control of mass media and entertainment - people hearing multiple variations of the same propaganda from multiple sources in multiple ways - guarantees that almost all minds will be manipulated into believing and even promoting the agenda of the oligarchs.

    The other major applied technique is to drastically limit the income of the vast majority of workers (through the federal minimum wage), which has the effect of forcing people into paycheck-to-paycheck survival mode, making it nearly impossible to be able to devote the time, energy, and focus it takes to unravel the propaganda and discover the truth.

    There is also the ongoing reality of the Rockefeller takeover of the education system, ensuring that young minds are filled with enough bull**** to grow a giant redwood tree by the time the schooling/indoctrination is complete. American exceptionalism and "manifest destiny" and patriotic fealty are hard-wired into young minds - and the critical thinking skills that would have been developed in the "trivium" are deliberately left undeveloped.

    Hopefully, there are more people like you who clearly see the truth about the fully-developed fascism and imperialism of the USA, and speak up. Here at Avalon, I know we lost a number of them who were disgusted with the inability of every Avalonian to see the Q propaganda as simply more oligarch propaganda, and to clearly see Trump as the fascist/corporatist/warmonger that he is, and that he and all the Republicans are inexorably enmeshed with the same Global Corporate Network as the equally fascist/corporatist/warmonger Democrats. Unfortunately, the reply I expect you will get is, "Why do you hate America?" But don't let that deter you! Keep speaking up. Maybe, just maybe the truth repeated often enough will be seen as the truth.


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    [...]

    There, I've said it.



    Even though there are diehard Trump supporters at Avalon who will despise you for pointing out the reality of Trump as fascist and militarist, and the USA, Inc. as a fascist nation, I think it is critically important that you and others that can see the truth to speak up. I applaud you. Actually, I think that those who can see the truth are duty-bound to speak the truth.
    Well, in my case, it's also compulsive. I just can't stand injustice, and I always want to expose it. But given the reactions I usually get ─ in this case, US Americans taking my comments personally and thinking that I hate them ─ and the social stigmas that follow from this sort of confrontations do often tend to make me swallow my words, thinking "What's the point? They're never going to listen to what I have to say, and they've already got their minds made up in advance."

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    I find it quite odd that Avalon is a gathering place for people who routinely dissect and reject propaganda and lies, who lived through 9/11 and are living through the unfolding agenda of the biggest and most obvious false flag operation in history, yet are fooled into supporting the 9/11 perpetrators and lauding them, cheering on the corporatists and warmongers, cheering on fascism. It can't just be fluoride in the drinking water.
    No, it's not the fluoride in the drinking water ─ which I personally think would be highly overrated as a threat ─ but rather the fact that from early childhood on, US Americans are exposed and subjected to propaganda. Back when I was still on Facebook ─ which was now, oh, some ten years ago ─ there was a woman who prided herself in still being able to recite the pledge of allegiance to the American flag she had to make in elementary school. A pledge of allegiance to the American flag for ignorant kids in elementary school? Are you kidding me?

    And then there's all the other propaganda, and every US president of the last couple of decades has been guilty of promoting that in public, all the way from Bush Sr. to Trump. But most Americans just don't know any better. They've been kept insulated from any knowledge or understanding of non-American culture. And like I said, Hollywood is one big propaganda machine.

    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
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    Hopefully, there are more people like you who clearly see the truth about the fully-developed fascism and imperialism of the USA, and speak up. Here at Avalon, I know we lost a number of them who were disgusted with the inability of every Avalonian to see the Q propaganda as simply more oligarch propaganda, and to clearly see Trump as the fascist/corporatist/warmonger that he is, and that he and all the Republicans are inexorably enmeshed with the same Global Corporate Network as the equally fascist/corporatist/warmonger Democrats. Unfortunately, the reply I expect you will get is, "Why do you hate America?" But don't let that deter you! Keep speaking up. Maybe, just maybe the truth repeated often enough will be seen as the truth.
    Yes, the typical knee-jerk reflex. As I've told someone else when talking about US politics only a few days ago, people are always eager to point out the splinter in someone else's eye while completely missing the beam in their own. This is not a political trait but a human trait ─ it's everywhere. But as such, it also plays out in politics, and when one person utters criticism on the part of something another person supports. Criticism ─ even constructive criticism ─ gets twisted around until it looks like a personal attack.

    For instance, I have already been called antisemitic for simply criticizing the state of Israel. Another reaction I often get is "What the hell would you know about America? You don't live here!"



    The truth is what it is, and it isn't going to go away because some people choose to turn a blind eye. Again, I just can't stand injustice, and even though I am often put off by the anticipated responses to what I'd be saying, there are still plenty of moments like this one, when I have the courage and the energy to speak my mind and point out the facts. And then I will.


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    Dennis you sound too leftist , Venezuela was destroyed by a comunist narco dictatorship, and yes I am from there and know exactly one important thing, : I LOST MY COUNTRY DO TO THE COMUNIST AND NOW I'M NOT GOING TO LET THEM TAKE DOWN THIS , MY NEW HOME, I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN NOW AND I HAVE TO DEFEND THE FUTURE OF MY KIDS.

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    Another important ingredient of fascism is gangsterism, criminality, the flouting of the rule of law simply by being in charge. There is another word to describe this type of rule. Here is a page from Norman Mailer in The Presidential Papers (1963).
    Quote The Bay of Pigs remains a mystery. One can doubt if it will ever be found out how it came to pass, or who in fact was the real force behind it. But there is a tool of investigation for political mysteries. It is Lenin’s formula: “Whom?” Whom does this benefit? Who prospers from a particular act?
    Well, whom? Kennedy and the liberal center did not gain honor from the Bay of Pigs. Castro most certainly did not gain an advantage, for he was forced now finally to commit his hand altogether to Russia. The Left in America, that fine new Left of Pacifists and beatniks and Negro militants and college students who just knew something was bad–this Left certainly did not benefit from the Bay of Pigs, because they were now divided about Castro even as an earlier generation of Leftists had been divided by the Moscow Trials.
    No, the people who benefited from the Bay of Pigs were the people who wanted a serious Communist threat to exist within ninety miles of America’s shore. They were the people who had taken the small and often absurd American Communist Party and had tried to exaggerate its menace to the point where the country could be pistol-whipped into silence at the mention of its name. They had infiltrated this party until even the Saturday Evening Post offered hints that a large part of the American Communist Party was by now made up of FBI men. These were indeed the people, these secret policemen, who would face an excruciating dilemma if the Communist threat disappeared altogether in America. Because then what would they do? If there were no Communists, the FBI would be required by the logic of their virility to take on the next greatest danger to American life, the Mafia, and how were they ever to do that, how were they to investigate the Mafia without ripping the Republican and Democratic parties up from top to bottom? Because the Republican Party was supported by the Mafia, and the Democratic Party was supported by the Mafia. Through and through down at the low level where the little heelers and the small cops got their bite at the local bar, and up at the high level where the monster housing projects were contracted out, and the superhighways, and the real estate grafts. No, it was safer by far that Cuba go Communist. That would be good for the FBI, and it would be good for the Chinese Communists, who wished to increase the pressure on Khrushchev’s back. Whom? asked Lenin; who benefits? And the answer is clear: All the totalitarians of the world were benefited by the Bay of Pigs and the missiles that followed.


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    Dennis you sound too leftist , Venezuela was destroyed by a comunist narco dictatorship, and yes I am from there and know exactly one important thing, : I LOST MY COUNTRY DO TO THE COMUNIST AND NOW I'M NOT GOING TO LET THEM TAKE DOWN THIS , MY NEW HOME, I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN NOW AND I HAVE TO DEFEND THE FUTURE OF MY KIDS.
    I recommend that you immediately buy stock in USA, Inc. military industrial complex corporations. You can't lose. You'll be helping out the imperialists that are actually stealing your ex-country, making sure that an obedient globalist puppet is installed rather than a democratically elected one. The oil extracted from Venezuela is the property of globalists, right? Why should the people of Venezuela get a share of it? Nothing wrong with globalist Guaido declaring himself the president, right?

    Damn, that gives me an idea:

    HERETOFORE AND HENCEFORTH, I HEREBY DECLARE DENNIS LEAHY TO BE THE LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

    OK, it's done. Now that I am President, I am deporting you and your entire family, because you are immigrants and we don't like immigrants. But first I will put you in a cage for a while, and torture you, because the USA legalized rendition, imprisonment without charge or defense, and torture. We may even perform human experimentation on you, or harvest your organs.

    Sorry, amigo, you have swallowed the propaganda hook, line, and sinker. Your comments are so fantasy-based that all I can do is mock the comments.


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    I'm so glad some Avalon members still have the courage and energy to speak out--I confess I've grown weary and only have the energy to make small stabs anymore as it's so disheartening to see the amount of blindness.
    In any case, THANKS, and please keep up the good work.
    Even if it doesn't change as many minds as we might wish, for those of us who already see clearly, it's a great relief to see the truth still being presented with clarity and energy.

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    The truth is what it is, and it isn't going to go away because some people choose to turn a blind eye. Again, I just can't stand injustice, and even though I am often put off by the anticipated responses to what I'd be saying, there are still plenty of moments like this one, when I have the courage and the energy to speak my mind and point out the facts. And then I will.
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
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    Try this: [you tube]WGJOj-ZSBW4[/you tube]
    Can I ask for a synopsis of what you gleaned from this Dark Journalist video, Onawah?
    In a way, it's very frustrating to be a fan of Dark Journalist because he covers so much territory and connects so many dots, all in a seemingly rambling, disjointed kind of way, that it's difficult to explain why it's all so compelling.
    All the info comes together quite sensibly and clearly if you listen to the shows in the order in which they are presented, however.
    It's time consuming, but very much worth it, imho, and quite fascinating.
    Transcripts would be great, but inasmuch as his shows are often 3 hours long or more, apparently no one has volunteered to do the work.

    The first hour or so of Episode 81 is devoted to the Iowa caucus and how John Kerry and Mitt Romney may be planning to take over the Dem nomination.
    The rest is devoted to the Venus Transit, what it has meant in the past especially in the formation of the US
    how that relates to all the info DJ has been presenting about Mason and Dixon and the Mason Dixon line
    how that relates to Moon, PA.
    how and why Moon relates to where Washington DC was originally supposed to be, how politicians and other VIPs mysteriously keep showing up in Moon for various events
    how the airport in Moon may be similar to the airport in Denver and may be the home of an underground base and possibly a stargate.
    And so on.
    It may sound disjointed, but the patterns emerge gradually and inform us as to how little we really know about everything that goes on below the surface in this amazing world we live in.
    DJ is a remarkable researcher and his connections with Joseph Farrell, C.A. Fitts and others keep the flow of seminal info steadily coming in.
    His ability to connect the dots and trace the patterns is prodigious.
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    I listened to the whole 3+ hours of the Dark Journalist episode (while dismantling and trying to repair my robot vacuum which stopped working 1 month past the warranty! GRRRR!)

    It was a very interesting listen, the first I've listened to by him. I found the idea of the "Hail Mary pass" intriguing, and then all the other stuff they got into was some stuff I'd never heard before, so again, very interesting.

    But at the end, as they come back around the "Hail Mary pass" theory. It seemed like they were saying that's a good thing? Like they wanted that to happen? And I'm of the idea the whole time that it's not. It just seems like more behind-the-scenes manipulation to me. I'm not a fan of Bernie, but I would consider him just to shake up the party. I really don't want more of the status quo.

    So what are y'all's opinions on that theory? Good or bad or meh?
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    I can recommend listening to this show even if you haven't listened to the preceding parts 1 & 2 (though you may want to go back and listen to them too, after part 3).
    There is so much new and interesting information that I can't imagine it not being compelling listening.
    I would say that DJ clearly doesn't think that the Kerry/Romney Hail Mary thing is a positive development, but it may sound like he does simply because he anticipates feeling a sense of satisfaction when more evidence is revealed proving that his suppositions have been correct.
    I think he's concerned about the possibility of HRC getting back into the game, and he hopes that a third force will come into play.
    The Hail Mary is proof that the entrenched Dems really don't want Sanders to be the nominee ( and that's an indication that he would probably be the best choice for the voters, imho, in spite of his support of Biden.)
    (Given that we are talking about the lesser of evils here.)
    DJ thinks Trump was a better choice than HRC, and he still thinks Trump is (or at least, WAS) anti-globalist (unfortunately), though he's been much more disillusioned of late.
    But there is so much more info of worth in this show (particularly historical) that has nothing to do with the election, so I hope that part won't put anyone off.

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    I listened to the whole 3+ hours of the Dark Journalist episode (while dismantling and trying to repair my robot vacuum which stopped working 1 month past the warranty! GRRRR!)

    It was a very interesting listen, the first I've listened to by him. I found the idea of the "Hail Mary pass" intriguing, and then all the other stuff they got into was some stuff I'd never heard before, so again, very interesting.

    But at the end, as they come back around the "Hail Mary pass" theory. It seemed like they were saying that's a good thing? Like they wanted that to happen? And I'm of the idea the whole time that it's not. It just seems like more behind-the-scenes manipulation to me. I'm not a fan of Bernie, but I would consider him just to shake up the party. I really don't want more of the status quo.

    So what are y'all's opinions on that theory? Good or bad or meh?
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    It's a shame that Dennis and Rakyt do not run for office. They would make a formidable team!

    I'd be honored just to hang out with Rahkyt, a very bright and compassionate guy - among the best and brightest. But this brings back a point Mike made about needing the best and brightest in positions of governance. I don't think we need that, or want that. I think we need to shift our thinking to embrace the "ordinary citizen*" as representatives, and that their job would be to carry out the collective will of the people, which would be gleaned via the new election process.
    Thanks Ernie, I think we would make a good team, as part of a larger group of concerned citizens of the type and working toward the implementation of some of the innovative governmental forms that have been discussed in this thread and, in particular, Dennis's response here. And I would be honored in turn, Dennis, to just hang! If you ever make it to Central Texas, don't hesitate to let me know.

    After 2 years on the Ethics Review Commission for my city, San Marcos, TX, I was honored last Fall to be elected to the City Council in December after a run-off election. As it is a non-partisan position, I didn't have to make a choice of political parties, thank God, as, even though my ideologies and understandings of the world lean more to the far distant fields beyond Left and Right. I'm pretty active in social media and have gotten to know folks in my community and around February of last year, small groups started asking me to do it. I'd never considered it previously, although my family has a history of service to our nation and communities. Many of y'all have known me since I came here in 2011, so you're familiar with the span of my ethical and spiritual beliefs and probably some of my political understandings as well. They are not mainstream.

    I can report that local government IS NOT THE SAME as state or national government. We are accountable directly to the people, to the extent that going to the grocery store, stopping to get some gas, just walking down the street or going to eat out at a restaurant is always an opportunity to stand accountable to your community. Because the people around you, in your immediate environment, are the ones who elected you to office and they demand accountability! They want reports, as they should, and they want to question you to know your thinking, why you made the decisions you made, why did you approve that new industry going up by the river, what the hell business do you have putting up a 5 story apartment building next to my house, what's taking so long with the streets in my neighborhood and why don't the cops enforce the speed limit or noise ordinance in my neighborhood like they do across the tracks or up on the hill or over in those good neighborhoods?

    So far, I've not been approached with any bribes, nobody has offered me expensive gifts, no black helicopters over my house or men in black suits hanging about as far as I can tell. But then, my memory could be getting erased, which might not be a new thing in my life anyway, as I'm a military brat and am perennially suspicious of potential MILAB history, as I've stated in threads here before.

    I have seen how people get corrupted. How they get in office, even local, at one economic level and when they leave office, they've gone up a level or two. My stance is what it is, I've been very poor, couch surfing with friends and sleeping in my car, too poor to buy food and calling it fasting and not that long ago, in these latter years of my life so I know what it is to have nothing. I've spent a night in jail for a Class C Misdemeanor and have been unable to find more than a minimum wage job for a decade, despite my Master's Degree and being ABD PhD. I'm blessed now to be stable, to be able to take care of my kids, and to be able to represent my neighbors and friends, who trust me and expect me to stand for them, which I am doing despite the intransigence of government and the difficulty of changing the direction of the "Ship of State" without the utmost group effort, as no single person can do it alone.

    I want to see the systems change. After a year of being a "part" of the Empire as it were, a representative of local government, and seeing what it is like on the "other side", I don't know how much we can do to change it without a massive, paradigm shifting series of events that force us to move beyond the current matrice of interlocked and sychophantic institutions and organizations that currently lock power and potentiality up in the hands of those who rise to the elite status of their communities, whether that be through a corrupt political process or by dint of their own efforts, psychopathic or empathic.

    Mine has been the latter. People absolutely fed up and wanting something different. And, I must add, the Springs and river, here in my city, wanted me to protect them. So that has been my charge. Taking care of my people and my river. It's amazing how much other stuff comes with that.

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