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    The Real Problems With Psychiatry

    A psychotherapist contends that the DSM, psychiatry's "bible" that defines all mental illness, is not scientific but a product of unscrupulous politics and bureaucracy.
    Hope Reese
    May 2, 2013

    "On May 22, the American Psychiatric Association will release the fifth Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the DSM-5. It classifies psychiatric diagnoses and the criteria required to meet them. Gary Greenberg, one of the book's biggest critics, claims these disorders aren't real -- they're invented. Author of Manufacturing Depression: The Secret History of a Modern Disease and contributor to The New Yorker, Mother Jones, The New York Times and other publications, Greenberg is a practicing psychotherapist. The Book of Woe: The Making of the DSM-5 and the Unmaking of Psychiatry is his exposé of the business behind the creation of the new manual."

    Can you talk about how the first DSM, published in 1952, was conceived?

    One of the reasons was to count people. The first collections of diagnoses were called the "statistical manual," not the "diagnostic and statistical manual." There were also parochial reasons. As the rest of medicine became oriented toward diagnosing illnesses by seeking their causes in biochemistry, in the late 19th, early 20th century, the claim to authority of any medical specialty hinged on its ability to diagnose suffering. To say "okay, your sore throat and fever are strep throat." But psychiatry was unable to do that and was in danger of being discredited. As early as 1886, prominent psychiatrists worried that they would be left behind, or written out of the medical kingdom. For reasons not entirely clear, the government turned to the American Medico-Psychological Association, (later the American Psychiatric Association, or APA), to tell them how many mentally ill people were out there. The APA used it as an opportunity to establish its credibility.

    How has the DSM evolved to become seen as the "authoritative medical guide to all of mental suffering"?

    The credibility of psychiatry is tied to its nosology. What developed over time is the number of diagnoses, and, more importantly, the method by which diagnostic categories are established.

    You're a practicing psychotherapist. Can you define "mental illness"?

    No. Nobody can.

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    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Default Re: The Real Problems With Psychiatry

    It is a fake sience....
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    Default Re: The Real Problems With Psychiatry

    It's a very important field of medicine, after all it keeps thousands and thousands of people employed in well paid loops ha
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    Default Re: The Real Problems With Psychiatry

    Ref Below:

    Yes, I agree with the contention below. One healthcare professional I know and have worked with for over a decade tells me he avoids the DSM as much as possible because it is so riddled with political assumptions, agendas, and provides little clarity. In other words, it's not a useful document to him when it comes to delivering meaningful healthcare.

    I haven't studied the most recent edition much. I might want to read it ... but I expect I'll see the same sort of content and bias cited.


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    An oldie but VERY goodie...

    The Real Problems With Psychiatry

    A psychotherapist contends that the DSM, psychiatry's "bible" that defines all mental illness, is not scientific but a product of unscrupulous politics and bureaucracy.
    Hope Reese
    May 2, 2013

    "On May 22, the American Psychiatric Association will release the fifth Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the DSM-5. It classifies psychiatric diagnoses and the criteria required to meet them. Gary Greenberg, one of the book's biggest critics, claims these disorders aren't real -- they're invented. Author of Manufacturing Depression: The Secret History of a Modern Disease and contributor to The New Yorker, Mother Jones, The New York Times and other publications, Greenberg is a practicing psychotherapist. The Book of Woe: The Making of the DSM-5 and the Unmaking of Psychiatry is his exposé of the business behind the creation of the new manual."

    Can you talk about how the first DSM, published in 1952, was conceived?

    One of the reasons was to count people. The first collections of diagnoses were called the "statistical manual," not the "diagnostic and statistical manual." There were also parochial reasons. As the rest of medicine became oriented toward diagnosing illnesses by seeking their causes in biochemistry, in the late 19th, early 20th century, the claim to authority of any medical specialty hinged on its ability to diagnose suffering. To say "okay, your sore throat and fever are strep throat." But psychiatry was unable to do that and was in danger of being discredited. As early as 1886, prominent psychiatrists worried that they would be left behind, or written out of the medical kingdom. For reasons not entirely clear, the government turned to the American Medico-Psychological Association, (later the American Psychiatric Association, or APA), to tell them how many mentally ill people were out there. The APA used it as an opportunity to establish its credibility.

    How has the DSM evolved to become seen as the "authoritative medical guide to all of mental suffering"?

    The credibility of psychiatry is tied to its nosology. What developed over time is the number of diagnoses, and, more importantly, the method by which diagnostic categories are established.

    You're a practicing psychotherapist. Can you define "mental illness"?

    No. Nobody can.

    Read the rest HERE

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    Default Re: The Real Problems With Psychiatry

    This might be a little harsh ...
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    Default Re: The Real Problems With Psychiatry

    everyone I've ever known in psychiatric care has not improved but has deteriorated-

    there's a huge difference between psychology and psychiatry; psychiatrists are nothing more than pill-pushers: the most common side effects of medications is depression; so one taking more than 1 pill a day doesn't realize their depression is caused by pharmaceuticals ; so then they go to a shrink who then prescribes more pills (most are addictive); it's insanity (literally!)-

    Larry

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