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    Default Re: Transgender Woman Could Make Argentine Soccer History

    The average man has 30% more upper body strength than the average woman.

    The average man has 55% more lower body strength than the average woman.

    The advantages are enormous.

    You can take one isolated example of a trans woman and demonstrate that her advantages are minimal and that her participation is more or less fair relative to the competition. But over time, as more and more trans women enter female sports, those averages I cited are going to become more and more obvious, and by the time things get so wonky that even those in the deepest denial can't ignore the issue, we will have created an absolute mess of things that will be very difficult to undo.

    No one has even brought up the safety issue yet. There's a 240 pound trans woman in Australia who is just beating the sh!t out of everyone in rugby...and worse yet, celebrating it all triumphantly, as if she is actually accomplishing something. It's disturbingly pathological. It's happening in Britain too. Biological woman are getting hurt left and right!https://pluralist.com/transgender-at...-womens-rugby/

    Don't get me started on the trans wrestlers. Sheesh
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    Default Re: Transgender Woman Could Make Argentine Soccer History

    What do you think of a person over 7 feet tall and coordinated playing basketball (Shaq, Bol, Jabbar...)? Or the few guys (don't know any names) that can hit 60-yard field goals? Or the guys that can throw a 100MPH fastball in baseball? If you lift up their kilts, you'll find male junk, but they are far above and beyond the people they play against. Is it "fair?"

    I do get your point (and already commented on it), but there will always be some athletes that are so far above everyone else that - in a way - are not fairly competing, so unfair sports competition didn't start with m-to-f transgenders. Fast forward to the future and sports teams will have bionic and genetically modified humans competing. It's all part of the 'bread and circus' anyway, so it's really impossible for me to get upset over it.


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    yo Denno, I don't know if the participation of Shaq or Bol or Jabbar is "fair", but it is reasonable. I mean, just because things might not be"fair" along one data point doesn't mean we should obliterate reasonably set boundaries and rules to make them even more unfair to accommodate something far less reasonable(trans woman in female sports).

    the idea of equity in every last little thing has become something of a plague. it represents a war on logic and reason for almost everyone, all in favor of a very distorted version of fairness for - in this case - a small but very noisy minority of people. it's very hard for me to understand.

    I'm no transphobe, not even close, but there will be people reading this who will think that automatically. and they will resist my logic vehemently. the post modernists dislike logic and reason, dislike any kind of boundaries at all, dislike reciprocal and respectful dialogue, and anything else that might require them to think critically about their position and set their emotion aside even for a moment.

    those are the values that are at stake at the moment, in my view. if we keep ceding ground to radical leftist ideologues, we do it at our own risk

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    Default Re: Transgender Woman Could Make Argentine Soccer History

    and furthermore Denno...

    (..don't worry, i'll go back to telling my sh!tty jokes and self-indulgent stories about my life soon enough. just let me pretend i know what i'm talking about for a little while longer, ok?)

    i'm no fan of the radical right either. let me make that clear.

    we all know what happens when the radical right goes too far: mao, hitler, stalin etc

    but what happens when the left goes too far? well i think we're finding out now: the death of reason.

    these issues with trans women in female sports are just one small symptom of that. but the implications of post modernism, when carried to the extreme, are just as sinister and destructive as the extreme right going too far. that's why, although i see your point as this being no big deal, at least superficially, i worry that it just may not be actually..in the grand scope of things

    this thread just represents a microcosm of the big picture, of course. but it's kind of important, because when reason is threatened, it has implications that reach much further than this.

    trans people want to be referred to in the pronoun of their choice. fair enough. they want the same rights afforded to everyone else. fair enough. they want to get married. fair enough. and so on. but then they also want to participate in sports with the current sex they're identifying with. whoa, pump the breaks!

    it doesn't work. for all the reasons listed in this thread and more. there has to be a line drawn. there has to be a boundary. post modernists, and radical trans activists by extension, don't believe in those things. they want everything to be equal and all inclusive and homogenous. but it's an ideology that crumbles in the face of even the least bit of intellectual inspection.

    cold hard reality isn't fluid, and doesn't care about notions of fairness and equity. bending reality in an attempt to do so is delusion. and as delusions build upon other delusions, we slowly pathologize the world. but it always starts small, so i think it's prudent to be hyper vigilant.

    p.s. i just want to acknowledge rgray222's post #6, which is excellent
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    I shouldn't have looked at this thread last night, just before going to bed. Somewhat because of some of the thread's content, but primarily the implied relevance and implied importance of the thread's primary issue cascaded in my mind into anger and disappointment and frustration, and a night of tossing and turning... and I literally awoke with a bitter taste in my mouth.

    Luckily, Mike isn't a wimp and can handle his share (wherever the shoe fits) of what I'm about to dish out. I'm locked and loaded.

    First, this topic is a trivial issue, hyperventilated into supposed relevance. More on that later.

    Second, I'm once again appalled at the misuse of the phony left-right paradigm, with the onus of the technocratic/transhuman ideologue's agenda being assigned to "the left." If there is or ever was an actual left-right binary paradigm, then people should be smart enough to figure out where the terms came into popular use and what they mean. My political awareness started with the Vietnam war, and as a 17 year-old male assigned a military draft lottery number of "4", it wasn't just theoretical to me. Four students were murdered by the US military on a college campus (Kent State University) not far from where I grew up. That murderous event and the (even then obviously) insane war with the supposed enemy being the ideology of communism (ha! a war on an ideology!) radicalized me. Some of my friends and I bought shurikens - (the deadly martial arts 'throwing stars'), and practiced throwing them. We all knew how to shoot guns, and were 'crack shots.' We were preparing for physical combat with our common enemy, the murderous thugs of the US government, then typically referred to as "the establishment" rather than "the right." (We didn't know who they were connected to or who pulled their strings, at that time.) The two basic tenets that everyone who identified as "the left" had in common were anti-war and anti-establishment (or anti-authoritarian establishment to be more precise.) United States federal military troops murdered 4 people for protesting, a few hours from my house. There was no indication whatsoever that it was going to stop there. My mindset at that time can be summed up in a snippet of a poem that I wrote at the time:

    "...
    Be prepared, the people need you
    In a ripened, cosmic state
    With a body primed for power
    And a mind that's free from hate
    ..."

    That was 1971/1972. I chose the side of "the people" over the side of the authoritarian, murderous, warmongering establishment. I became part of "the left" nearly 50 years ago. Again, the two basic tenets that everyone who identified as "the left" had in common were anti-war and anti-establishment. In the year 2020, there are no members of "the left" in the United States government. NONE. Nor are there any in mainstream corporate media. NONE. There are in fact no "centrists" either (a pretty weird concept, "centrism" - as if someone could actually find a comfy spot between being anti-war and being warmongering.) Everyone in US politics and mass media is some variant of "the right", ranging from "the right" to the "ultra-radical right", and are supporters of "Empire" (a better, more complete picture of what we had called "the establishment.") GODDAMN IT, STOP BLAMING "THE LEFT" FOR THE IDEOLOGY AND AGENDA OF "THE RIGHT"/ESTABLISHMENT/GLOBALISTS/WARMONGERS. JESUS H CHRIST, STOP IT! IT DEEPLY DISHONORS ACTUAL MEMBERS OF "THE LEFT!" IT IS ESTABLISHMENT NARRATIVE CONTROL! STOP PROLIFERATING THE GODDAMN ORWELLIAN DOUBLESPEAK PROPAGANDA!

    Back to the transgenders in sports non-issue, and sports in general for a moment. I played organized team sports, I coached for a few years, and I raised a daughter that went through organized team sports - so again, this isn't just theoretical for me. Sports, and especially team sports, had the potential of being an excellent milieu for growth - physically, mentally, and emotionally. A place to gain the experience that a team effort can be far more effective than any individual effort alone. A place to learn/experience sportsmanship and camaraderie. The younger the kids (and if you happen to be the coach, and can see a bigger picture than 'winning') the more likely that each kid will actually derive the possible benefits beyond physical conditioning. But beyond elementary school-level sports, this potential for real growth has been wiped out, replaced with the single-minded/simpleminded notion that winning is everything. Sports (at least in the US) has been ruined, and I don't mean by passing out "participation medals" so no one feels like a loser (which is a stupid concept and nearly the antithesis of actual participation.) Pro athletes are professional gladiators, an important tool in the 'bread and circuses' distractions offered to people by the societal-engineering agents of the overlords, to keep the populace under control. They are tools of Empire, and are well paid by Empire. Sports, starting in middle school and fully by high school, have been ruined by professional sports, because the emphasis on the high school athletes is to get a sports scholarship to college, and college athletes are vying for a chance to play pro sports. All emphasis is on winning, none on character development or sportsmanship. I had a coach in high school football that encouraged us to step on the opposing quarterback's hands, once we brutally "gang tackled" him. Back in middle school, the basketball coach played the 5 best players nearly the entire game, only throwing in the benchwarmers in the last few minutes of a game that was already a loss.

    Transgenders aren't going to ruin sports - sports is already ruined. Even more importantly, sports and transgenderism are irrelevant distractions that should not occupy the pages of Project Avalon, while the biggest issue of our lifetimes (and likely the reason we incarnated at this time) - fighting against whatever your name is for the New World Order fascists that control and own the world - are glossed-over or worse, Avalon members aiding and abetting our enemy by praising them and promoting their agenda.

    Where in the hell is the concerted opposition at Avalon to these self-declared overlords of humanity and of life on Earth? Why isn't that topic and variants of that topic constantly on the 'front page' and consistantly having the highest number of views and participation? "Pleiadeans and archons and transgenders, oh my." - said Dorothy, the Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Cowardly Lion.

    Has everyone (I know it's not really EVERYone) at Avalon given up, and decided to cave-in and side with the enemy of life on Earth? We (collectively) are smart enough to recognize liars like Corey Goode, but too brainwashed to recognize "Q" as an agent of the overlords, and Trump as a charter member of some lower-than-trillionaire tier of the overlords? JESUS ****ING CHRIST, STOP IT, AND SWITCH ON YOUR DISCERNMENT! It is neither scientific nor spiritual to be manipulated by the overlords propaganda machine, however formidable it is.

    Three among the best and brightest minds that I know - Wade Frazier, Caitlin Johnstone, and Bill Ryan, all have an amazingly wide and deep and clear overview of reality and a gift for expounding it, and yet all three each have at least one agent of the overlords that they believe is really a "good guy" or worthy of ongoing support. For Wade (who isn't just prolific, he's a true genius), it's the man he calls "Uncle Noam" Chomsky (seen here in a "Democracy Now!" snippet, falling hook, line, and sinker for the American-Globalist Empire's regime-change meme for Syria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu_5nzvPWao); for Caitlin it's Bernie Sanders; for Bill it's Donald Trump. (Interestingly, all three of the subjects of my discernment and disgust, Chomsky, Sanders, and Trump, are Zionists.) If these brilliant minds can be duped by propaganda, then why should I expect the rest of Project Avalon members to have immunized themselves from the overlords' propaganda? I guess because I am an idealist, not a pragmatist.

    Even if 100% clairvoyant discernment is an unrealistic expectation at Avalon, couldn't members up their game a few notches? Let the people who are actually grounded in love and compassion, and who have the discernment to recognize and expose agents of the oligarchs, the New World Order that is already here, hold the forum's attention. Avalon members should be promoting anti-Empire and anti-war topics (as well as subjects that advance the health and spiritual health of members.) "Q" belongs in front of a firing squad as a traitorous propagandist to the people, not being studied for clues about the Russian sex worker pee dossier author and pretending that is the oligarch's "deep state." The members of the entire US federal government belong in prison (and no, I wouldn't agree to torture them - I'm not a psychopathic monster like they are.) Let's all try to step up our game several notches, flip the discernment switch to the "ON" position, and hopefully discuss strategies for destroying the agenda and control mechanism of the New World Order overlords (along with the helpful information being shared about physical, emotional, and spiritual health.)
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    Default Re: Transgender Woman Could Make Argentine Soccer History

    Yeah I can take it brother. The only thing that I found upsetting about that entire post was being left off your brightest minds list. I don't know what your leftist ideological agenda was in doing that, but I'll be perfectly willing to forgive you if you send me another bottle of CBD oil.

    Alright I'll try to be serious a moment...

    My friend, we're talking about the New World Order fascists here all the time. For most of us, we see the symptoms of it - like the political puppets, or the rigged economy, or the phony wars - and we eventually elaborate backwards to the source. The source has many different names, but we're all talking about the same thing.

    By analyzing the symptoms of the disease we eventually find our way to the source. But not everyone is there yet.

    I'd be happy to do away with calling anything "left" or "right" if it pleases you. In this thread I'm talking mostly about the plague of post-modernism. The trans stuff is merely a symptom of that

    And I am actually promoting an anti-war topic, only I'm talking about the war on reason, which is every bit as insidious as an actual war insomuch as it emboldens the NWO agenda.

    Post modernism, as you likely know, is characterized by moral relativism, emphasizing subjective "truths" over real ones, the absence of anything spiritually transcendent, and a suspicion of reason..among other things

    Enter transgenderism. It's a symptom of a much bigger problem(and I'm not talking about trans people here as being a problem, i'm talking about the way in which the activist ideology is a problem). The reason that it is a significant issue is because, as you know, the bastards at the top operate in a way that David Icke calls "the totalitarian tiptoe". They introduce what appears to be something kind of innocuous and slowly amplify it, testing our boundaries all the while. They want to see what we'll tolerate. And if we do tolerate something they introduce, they raise the bar a little and ever so slowly get us to unknowingly accept it and embrace it.

    This issue of transgenders in sports is just one small step, sure. But it's one small step towards a much larger and all encompassing insanity.

    We should be grounded in love and compassion, of course. But first and foremost we need to be grounded in truth. Love and compassion, or at least a distorted version of it, is how they get us to accept the sh!t they roll out.. because, for example, if you are unwilling to accept trans women in female sports they can press the nuclear button and cry bigotry, or transphobia. If you are white and unwilling to stay off campus for a day in the name of racial injustice, you are labeled a racist (please see my thread on Evergreen University. It may just be the most important one I've ever started, and nobody is really looking at it).

    I'm just as shocked and confused that you don't see this as you are that I don't go to bed at night mumbling about oligarchs. They are using your love and compassion against you. That's the current game the controllers are playing, and I can't understand for a moment how that could be disregarded by someone as intelligent as you.
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