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    So Waves, if I understand you correctly you would deny those who see the odious Jon Rappaport for the ignorant zealot that he is, the right to express that opinion here? He claims to believe the coronavirus is a hoax that big Pharma started or was heavily involved with, if I am not mistaken. So he will manage to draw some of those who are rightfully suspicious of big P and vaccine industry into his sphere. They have to understand he is leveraging those sensibilities to draw attention to himself.

    According to Rappaport, Aids was a hoax. Zika virus was a hoax and now coronavirus. Only in his imagination. He has a twin preoccupation with the powers of the imagination and indeed seems to be fantasy prone. Typical narcissist going for as many clicks as possible.
    Wow. Drawing such a lovely reaction, he really must have stirred up a hornet‘s nest somewhere. Btw, his name is spelled Rappoport, not Rappaport. Respect starts with getting someone‘s name right.

    On a different note:

    Several well respected astrologers have recently pointed out the date around 3/29 to 4/1 as extremly dangerous for clashes, for people getting angry and overreacting and say things they would regret later. It‘s realistic and easy to comprehend for even someone with a very superficial understanding of astrology.

    While I (despite my name) generally prefer by far rather open confrontation, a clearing thunderstorm than an overload of hearts and teddybears - I‘m always cautious here. It is worth it, still. I‘d hate to see more people gone.

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    Hi Guys, here is some research that I personally did myself today. I am trained as a Chemical Engineer from a university that was ranked in the top 5 in the USA for this specification at the time, so, I'm not stupid.

    Here's some critical thinking. I am not saying I KNOW all of this 100%, but here is some investigative research:

    In 2012, the CIA declassified this scientific study that occured in 1977:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mX1...0XhBQSpDv/view

    Summary:

    “Morphological, functional, and biochemical studies conducted in humans and animals revealed that millimeter waves caused changes in the body manifested in the structural alterations in the skin and internal organs, qualitative and quantitative changes of the blood and bone marrow composition and changes of the conditioned reflex activity, tissue respiration, activity of enzymes participating in the process of tissue respiration and nucleic metabolism.
    The degree of unfavorable effect of millimeter waves depended on the duration of the radiation and individual characteristics of the organism.”

    N.P. Zalyubovskaya, 1977

    MY Takeaway: Seems like millimeter waves are dangerous depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism.

    What exactly is Tissue Respiration?

    "The exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide between the atmosphere and the body cells, including inhalation and exhalation, diffusion of oxygen from the pulmonary alveoli to the blood and of carbon dioxide from the blood to the alveoli, followed by the transport of oxygen to and carbon dioxide from the body cells."

    source: https://medical-dictionary.thefreedi...ue+respiration

    MY Takeaway: OK, so millimeter waves are dangerous to basic breathing depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism.

    Ok, so what does that have to do with today, and why does it matter? 5G. What is 5G?

    Millimeter wave technology being rolled out across the world.

    OK, where is 5G?

    In US: Coming to a city near you...or already there. Here;s T-Mobile's map: https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/5g-coverage-map

    In Wuhan, China: https://5g-emf.com/wuhan-was-the-pro...-deadly-virus/

    What did we all see videos of poor Wuhan chinese people collapsing on the streets of? Hypoxia (Issues Breathing)

    "Hypoxia is a condition in which the body or a region of the body is deprived of adequate oxygen supply at the tissue level."

    MY Takeaway: OK, so millimeter waves are dangerous to basic breathing depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism; and I saw many videos of people collapsing, unable to breathe, in Wuhan, China where there are 10,000+ 5G towers currently.

    Also it is well documented that the amount of pollution in Wuhan is horrific, thus adding into the mix here that the people's cells were already heavily damaged from the pollution...

    Next time, we look at:
    - Electroportation (a microbiology technique in which an electrical field is applied to cells in order to increase the permeability of the cell membrane, allowing chemicals, drugs, or DNA to be introduced into the cell)
    - Corona-virus (a corona discharge is an electrical discharge brought on by the ionization of a fluid such as air)
    - Virus Exosomes
    - Vaccines

    Who's doing this: it's obivous...
    Why: obvious...

    Conclusion: this could explain the weird and non-standard responses people are having to the supposed 'virus' in different locations.

    Idea: we should all pull together and make a google sheet on REAL people we know who have gotten pnemonia-like illness over the past 3 months, and for them to honestly list their comorbities, and have them search the publicly available 5G maps to connect their health history with 5G potential interference...

    UPDATE:

    Also, some have said this doesnt make sense since there's no 5G in Iran, but this article would say otherwise: https://financialtribune.com/article...est-5g-systems

    5G in Italy: https://www.gsmarena.com/italy_becom...news-37424.php

    5G already blanketing the US as well, search it and see Tmobile, Verizon and others coverage maps...
    Phoenix was kind enough to ask me (very politely! ) if I'd respond to this specific post.

    I've posted about this quite a few times, but the problem we're all now having is that some posts are very easily missed or overlooked. I do understand that.

    In summary:
    • Yes, all Wi-Fi is detrimental to health, and 5G absolutely in particular. I don't think any member here would take issue with that.
      (Certainly not myself! I have to have Wi-Fi in my house — the only way I can get the signal, via a relay pole — but I do NOT have it in my bedroom. There's no signal there. No Wi-Fi when sleeping can make a huge amount of difference to overall health. Fortunately, when 5G eventually reaches Ecuador, if it does, it's really unlikely to get anywhere near the very remote sheltered rural valley where I live.)
    • The novel coronavirus doesn't just attack older people. The key factor is that it exploits anyone at all whose health is compromised or weakened. In some cases, that can include many younger people as well. Age isn't the thing here. Many younger people will unfortunately succumb as well, and we're already seeing this.
    • So 5G will be a factor that enables the virus (any virus!) to take hold. So will air pollution, smoking, any kind of drug use (pharmaceutical or recreational), heavy metal toxicity, poor water quality, poor diet, an acidic body, high blood pressure (recent research indicates this is a major factor), diabetes, heart or kidney disease, and any chronic inflammatory condition. But these are only exacerbating factors. Not the cause of the pandemic. The coronavirus is a real thing, that's opportunistic — as all viruses are.
    • Always remember: you can't catch 5G symptoms from another person. Infected people who fly into a country with no 5G (like Ecuador) don't suddenly get better. That's how come Ecuador now has 2,300 cases.

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    There are countries that officially don‘t have 5G, but still have problems with Corona virus. If you go to the internet to check who has 5G, then you look for the civil technology. What about the military application. Has it been announced yet where it is applied or not!

    Kautz-Vella talks about that at 00:10:30 (to 00:12::30)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQnPm59JiTA

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    Echo chambers are dull!

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    [*]Yes, all Wi-Fi is detrimental to health, and 5G absolutely in particular. I don't think any member here would take issue with that.
    (Certainly not myself! I have to have Wi-Fi in my house — the only way I can get the signal, via a relay pole — but I do NOT have it in my bedroom. There's no signal there. No Wi-Fi when sleeping can make a huge amount of difference to overall health. Fortunately, when 5G eventually reaches Ecuador, if it does, it's really unlikely to get anywhere near the very remote sheltered rural valley where I live.)
    Well, as a 22 year IT professional I would disagree that all wifi is detrimental to health; that is a dismissive categorization that ignores the complexities of the topic (and, in general; is not accurate at all, otherwise we would have an epidemic level problem in the western countries. (5G is even LESS penetrating as it is at 5,000 Hz vs 2,400 Hz or so we are currently at)).



    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    [*]The novel coronavirus doesn't just attack older people. The key factor is that it exploits anyone at all whose health is compromised or weakened. In some cases, that can include many younger people as well. Age isn't the thing here. Many younger people will unfortunately succumb as well, and we're already seeing this.
    It certainly doesn't seem to effect children at anywhere near the same level as it does adults, or especially the elderly.

    If you're 40 or below and in good health, the statistics say you'll be fine. it's the 70+ and those with pre - existing conditions that need to be socially distancing themselves.


    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    [*]So 5G will be a factor that enables the virus (any virus!) to take hold. So will air pollution, smoking, any kind of drug use (pharmaceutical or recreational), heavy metal toxicity, poor water quality, poor diet, an acidic body, high blood pressure (recent research indicates this is a major factor), diabetes, heart or kidney disease, and any chronic inflammatory condition. But these are only exacerbating factors. Not the cause of the pandemic. The coronavirus is a real thing, that's opportunistic — as all viruses are.
    I'm pre hypertensive (pre -high blood pressure) and the virus hit me HARD, my SO is not and she slid through with not as intense symptoms as I did. Stressors of any type do interesting things, when chronic (long term) they tend to ware a person's resiliency down, when acute (brief) they seem to greatly help a person grow stronger and better.

    Moderation in everything! (even WiFi!)


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    [*]Always remember: you can't catch 5G symptoms from another person. Infected people who fly into a country with no 5G (like Ecuador) don't suddenly get better. That's how come Ecuador now has 2,300 cases.
    And this is why I tossed my response in, the echo chamber can convince itself so much that when someone else steps into it it freaks them the hell out!

    5g is POTENTIALLY another chronic stressors (if you live in a city) most people who do not live in cities will not even really be exposed that often to it (due to it's extremely short range).

    We are bombarded daily with cosmic radiation, solar radiation, heat (another form of radiation). WIFI is very weak compared to those and 5G will be even "weaker" as far as dermal penetration is concerned.

    Don't let this forum be a higher stress source than 5g!(your brain is THAT powerful)

    Grains of salt for all!

    Quote Posted by Iloveyou (here)
    There are countries that officially don‘t have 5G, but still have problems with Corona virus. If you go to the internet to check who has 5G, then you look for the civil technology. What about the military application. Has it been announced yet where it is applied or not!
    ZERO 5G on the island I live on, we have 30 confirmed cases currently and the national guard is being activated today to provide tests, treatment and new arrival screening.


    Fear is infections, actions speak loudly...

    This Orangutan started obsessively washing it's hands after observing it's handlers do so due to the CORVID-19 fear porn...


    Think the same doesn't happen with humans? Fear is a CROSS SPECIES disease!
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    Bumping this very intelligent post
    Also, I think we need to pay more attention to satellites which are beaming all kinds of inescapable (unless perhaps you live in a cave) frequencies at everyone, and there are more of them all the time.
    Quote Posted by Phoenix (here)
    Hi Guys, here is some research that I personally did myself today. I am trained as a Chemical Engineer from a university that was ranked in the top 5 in the USA for this specification at the time, so, I'm not stupid.

    Here's some critical thinking. I am not saying I KNOW all of this 100%, but here is some investigative research:

    In 2012, the CIA declassified this scientific study that occured in 1977:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mX1...0XhBQSpDv/view

    Summary:

    “Morphological, functional, and biochemical studies conducted in humans and animals revealed that millimeter waves caused changes in the body manifested in the structural alterations in the skin and internal organs, qualitative and quantitative changes of the blood and bone marrow composition and changes of the conditioned reflex activity, tissue respiration, activity of enzymes participating in the process of tissue respiration and nucleic metabolism.
    The degree of unfavorable effect of millimeter waves depended on the duration of the radiation and individual characteristics of the organism.”

    N.P. Zalyubovskaya, 1977

    MY Takeaway: Seems like millimeter waves are dangerous depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism.

    What exactly is Tissue Respiration?

    "The exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide between the atmosphere and the body cells, including inhalation and exhalation, diffusion of oxygen from the pulmonary alveoli to the blood and of carbon dioxide from the blood to the alveoli, followed by the transport of oxygen to and carbon dioxide from the body cells."

    source: https://medical-dictionary.thefreedi...ue+respiration

    MY Takeaway: OK, so millimeter waves are dangerous to basic breathing depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism.

    Ok, so what does that have to do with today, and why does it matter? 5G. What is 5G?

    Millimeter wave technology being rolled out across the world.

    OK, where is 5G?

    In US: Coming to a city near you...or already there. Here;s T-Mobile's map: https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/5g-coverage-map

    In Wuhan, China: https://5g-emf.com/wuhan-was-the-pro...-deadly-virus/

    What did we all see videos of poor Wuhan chinese people collapsing on the streets of? Hypoxia (Issues Breathing)

    "Hypoxia is a condition in which the body or a region of the body is deprived of adequate oxygen supply at the tissue level."

    MY Takeaway: OK, so millimeter waves are dangerous to basic breathing depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism; and I saw many videos of people collapsing, unable to breathe, in Wuhan, China where there are 10,000+ 5G towers currently.

    Also it is well documented that the amount of pollution in Wuhan is horrific, thus adding into the mix here that the people's cells were already heavily damaged from the pollution...

    Next time, we look at:
    - Electroportation (a microbiology technique in which an electrical field is applied to cells in order to increase the permeability of the cell membrane, allowing chemicals, drugs, or DNA to be introduced into the cell)
    - Corona-virus (a corona discharge is an electrical discharge brought on by the ionization of a fluid such as air)
    - Virus Exosomes
    - Vaccines

    Who's doing this: it's obivous...
    Why: obvious...

    Conclusion: this could explain the weird and non-standard responses people are having to the supposed 'virus' in different locations.

    Idea: we should all pull together and make a google sheet on REAL people we know who have gotten pnemonia-like illness over the past 3 months, and for them to honestly list their comorbities, and have them search the publicly available 5G maps to connect their health history with 5G potential interference...

    UPDATE:

    Also, some have said this doesnt make sense since there's no 5G in Iran, but this article would say otherwise: https://financialtribune.com/article...est-5g-systems

    5G in Italy: https://www.gsmarena.com/italy_becom...news-37424.php

    5G already blanketing the US as well, search it and see Tmobile, Verizon and others coverage maps...
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    A video I got yesterday.
    If you can register, watch it, you'll learn a few important details; if you can't register, don't waste your time, watch TV.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

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    Thank goodness for those a bit "OFF"


    12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic
    https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/...navirus-panic/

    10 MORE Experts Criticising the Coronavirus Panic
    https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/...navirus-panic/

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    Quote Posted by Caliban (here)
    Thank goodness for those a bit "OFF"

    12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic
    https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/...navirus-panic/

    10 MORE Experts Criticising the Coronavirus Panic
    https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/...navirus-panic/
    Thanks — I appreciated reading those. The most noteworthy comment may have been from Michael Osterholm, who said:
    The best alternative will probably entail letting those at low risk for serious disease continue to work, keep business and manufacturing operating, and “run” society, while at the same time advising higher-risk individuals to protect themselves through physical distancing and ramping up our health-care capacity as aggressively as possible. With this battle plan, we could gradually build up immunity without destroying the financial structure on which our lives are based.
    Osterholm was interviewed by Joe Rogan, here, on 10 March:


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    Very Important audio just received from two different continents:

    http://projectavalon.net/AUD-20200330-WA0004.mp3
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    Wow. Drawing such a lovely reaction, he really must have stirred up a hornet‘s nest somewhere. Btw, his name is spelled Rappoport, not Rappaport. Respect starts with getting someone‘s name right.--I love you

    I don't respect him. He is another Corey Guud, Emree Smythe, David Willkok.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Caliban (here)
    Thank goodness for those a bit "OFF"

    12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic
    https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/...navirus-panic/

    10 MORE Experts Criticising the Coronavirus Panic
    https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/...navirus-panic/
    Thanks — I appreciated reading those. The most noteworthy comment may have been from Michael Osterholm, who said:
    The best alternative will probably entail letting those at low risk for serious disease continue to work, keep business and manufacturing operating, and “run” society, while at the same time advising higher-risk individuals to protect themselves through physical distancing and ramping up our health-care capacity as aggressively as possible. With this battle plan, we could gradually build up immunity without destroying the financial structure on which our lives are based.
    Osterholm was interviewed by Joe Rogan, here, on 10 March:

    It makes sense to do this once hospitals are up to speed, the curve is flattened a bit. It's clear common sense. Everything can't grind to a halt indefinitely. It's not the bubonic plague!

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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)

    Well, as a 22 year IT professional I would disagree that all wifi is detrimental to health; that is a dismissive categorization that ignores the complexities of the topic (and, in general; is not accurate at all, otherwise we would have an epidemic level problem in the western countries. (5G is even LESS penetrating as it is at 5,000 Hz vs 2,400 Hz or so we are currently at)).

    That is way off as an argument that 5G is not dangerous ( and I have a problem with all IT professionals who are in their tunnel vision) . Who knows at what level they have turned up the 5G in Wuhan and elsewhere ? We have read what happens at 60 GHz. These techno-fanatics are capable to turn up the volume to make their tools work as fast as possible. We are allowed to have strong suspicions about them and their ambitions.
    The coincidence of turning on the 5G switch in industrialized locations and the worldwide outbreak of a flew that has extreme violent and unseen charateristics is frightening. And yes 5G is also in Iran. The argument that "symptoms of 5G are not transmissible" is not to the point. The flue that was triggered is transmissible and can be carried elsewhere.
    It is high time to take a step back from the conspiracy hunting and support all and everybody in our communities to come outside and get this halted. If not do not be surprised that the outbreaks will continue to ravage everywhere.

    Arcturian108's post : The audio tape and admission of a former Vodafone manager is impressive .
    Very Important audio just received from two different continents:

    http://projectavalon.net/AUD-20200330-WA0004.mp3
    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 1st April 2020 at 21:40. Reason: amended the audio link

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)

    Truth be told, I figure this may be a military bioweapon from Fort Detrick targeting China and the U.S. is experiencing blowback. This is pure 'maybe,' in my mind.
    Highly doubtful the U.S. military would target China with this type of bioweapon, knowing full well it would encapsulate the entire globe (which is the very strength of this particular virus, if indeed it's a bioweapon).

    That's not to suggest this isn't a bioweapon. But in my mind (also a pure maybe) this wouldn't be a game between nation-states, all of which have been targeted for complete and utter collapse.

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    How many of you have noticed that you are hedging your bets? The common theme on the Covid19 posts is: “It’s on the one hand this, but on the other hand that.” It’s this, but maybe it’s that”. “I think this, but that is not to say it’s not that.”

    Take a stand. What do you really believe? Now is not the time to be PC.

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    There is a major threat out there. It may or may not be this virus. It could very easily be that a big breaking news event of an arrest, or several arrests pending announcement at any time will shock the living daylights out of the world. Perhaps it could be bad enough to cause mass eruption into the streets, unless there is another major reason preventing them from doing this. And of course we can't forget the nature of the psychos we are dealing with here, capable of bringing down the rest of the world with them rather than face their crimes perhaps they'd activate all manner of false flag events in response so if people were out in those malls, on those streets and sidewalks, well, you get the idea. Maybe the reason for staying home is very valid but not quite what everyone thinks.

    Also, and to get my two cents in on Charles and Boris and their diagnosis. If the virus is real they are probably scared crapless and they probably want to bunker down somewhere safe so because they can't just high tail it and run they say they have the virus first and then duck for cover under the plausible deniability of doing you a service telling you it's for safety reasons. They still get to run off and hide but save face this way without their 'puss' showing!
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    isnt it suuuuuper suspect that harvey pervstein, prince harry, maybe even the queen, and tom hanks 'got' it?

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    also i saw an HIV/AIDS researcher in south africa is dead from 'it' ....

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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    How many of you have noticed that you are hedging your bets? The common theme on the Covid19 posts is: “It’s on the one hand this, but on the other hand that.” It’s this, but maybe it’s that”. “I think this, but that is not to say it’s not that.”

    Take a stand. What do you really believe? Now is not the time to be PC.
    Good for you Sartori for pointing out the obvious.
    I admit I had been sitting on the fence for quite a while, being noncommittal one way or the other.

    But after watching Dr. Andrew Kaufman yesterday and especially today (in another video) I am ready to take my stand.
    He has convinced me that COVID-19 = EXOSOMES

    That will probably be meaningless to most here.

    Until you watch this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGd7-vvd9Y

    Please take the time to watch all of it. This MD makes a very convincing case!
    It helps explain a lot of what we have been seeing the past few months.

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    Very Important audio just received from two different continents:

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    Who is speaking please?
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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    How many of you have noticed that you are hedging your bets? The common theme on the Covid19 posts is: “It’s on the one hand this, but on the other hand that.” It’s this, but maybe it’s that”. “I think this, but that is not to say it’s not that.”

    Take a stand. What do you really believe? Now is not the time to be PC.
    Good for you Sartori for pointing out the obvious.
    I admit I had been sitting on the fence for quite a while, being noncommittal one way or the other.

    But after watching Dr. Andrew Kaufman yesterday and especially today (in another video) I am ready to take my stand.
    He has convinced me that COVID-19 = EXOSOMES

    That will probably be meaningless to most here.

    Until you watch this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGd7-vvd9Y

    Please take the time to watch all of it. This MD makes a very convincing case!
    It helps explain a lot of what we have been seeing the past few months.

    I urge you all to watch the video Dave linked above, by Dr. Andrew Kaufman. He's basically saying that what we're seeing with the CV is an endogenous phenomenon and what they are calling a "virus" is actually Exosomes, a type of extracellular vesicle that serve as a Cleansing Agent to rid the body of toxic materials.

    Now, the video I'm posting below was made by a guy who's been educating many of us in the comment section of Rappoport's recent articles, on the true nature of what viruses are. He calls them Viruses but he's essentially saying what Andrew Kaufman is saying: Viruses are the body's way of dealing with and neutralizing toxins, which are created by poisons, stresses, horrible air pollution of all kinds, etc. In other words, they don't "come from outside" and can't be "caught" from your lover/neighbor/baker.

    These videos turn everything -- no, NOT on its head -- I should say back right side up. It's very freeing.



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