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    I found the following 22 minute long podcast to be profoundly insightful and helpful. It offers some excellent advice to help one stay calm and centered. Meditation is a great tool to have. I sincerely hope that you find it equally helpful in these trying times. Please give this a listen. I promise you won't be disappointed.

    https://samharris.org/podcasts/193-m...ion-emergency/

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    Here's another way:

    (Sir) Anthony Hopkins asked a Jesuit priest friend of his:

    "What's the best short prayer you know?"

    The priest answered, "F--k it."


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    This was very soothing to me this pm.


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    Dr. Brownstein: COVID-19 is Much Less Deadly than the Common Flu
    https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/dr...he-common-flu/
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    Default Re: Dealing with fear and panic

    It was Jan 21 when I posted the first message on the Wuhan outbreak. Since that time of blowing the trumpet in all directions not just here on avalon, I have also been spreading the word to friends and family thru various means. Including alerting customers daily in a business I own. It's been an exhausting challenge mostly dealing with people, friends , and family who live in their own bubble and recognize nothing else around them except their own world. Combating that intellectual ignorance culminated today as the state of Michigan just mandated self isolation for non essential citizens of the state and their occupations.

    Coming home this evening it wasn't as much fear or panic but just total exhaustion and an end to a mission of attempting to alert as many of those that would listen.i almost feel as this chapter is closed now since the self isolation started at midnight that has just passed. I havnt been here on Avalon or anything else due to I just needed a break and time to rest my soul.

    I,'ve always said life is like a pendulum, it swings hard to the left or the right but at the end of the day it always seems to find a way to come back to center only to start all over again. Dealing with fear,panic,anxiety,or anything out of the norm can be so taxing to an individual's spirit. Stepping back isn,t a crime,it's actually a needed tool to stay healthy and vibrant to assist others who are not as dynamic. I would submit to you many if not most of the Avalon family are in that dynamic category. Even sounding off here is a form of release and tool for regrouping to that healthy center again.

    Remember fear and or panic doesnt really exist if you don't allow that to happen. And you are in charge of yourself and what you allow to enter. Glad to be here in the Avalon family.

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    Social media is now the worst and spreading panic like never before. I used to like to be there, where mainstream media was not present yet (I stopped watching tv 2004). But we're all gonna ****ing die then. Yeah. That's what they say. Well, at least that's true.

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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    You're not alone, brother. We will get through this and it will lead to something better.

    I hope these will help anyone dealing with fear and anxiety.

    "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

    ~ Frank Herbert, Dune


    Staying Conscious in the Face of Adversity | A Special Message From Eckhart Tolle


    Corona Lockdown! Can Anything Positive Come From This?! | Russell Brand



    Deep peace - Reassuring words


    Thanks Wind, I really resonate with John Butler. What a wonderfully wise and gentle soul.


    I've just watched this one about coronavirus fear, and shared it to loads of my friends.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVhQpOx_x0Y
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    How to deal with fear, imho...

    To completely remove ALL fear first look at what is causing the fear/s, acknowledge them, then let the thoughts of fear gently go and focus on LOVE; practise some love, give/receive some love, try being love...

    Love removes all the nutrients that fear needs to survive and grow.

    Oh and turn off the TV/PC too!

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    Almost all of us have our ways and develop techniques as we age. For what it's worth

    Mine is to listen to music that "gells" with me or read some inspirational writings like:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiderata

    Desiderata
    Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time. Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.[3]

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    It's been 2 months already and I still have sore throat. I even got tested for corona and the test came back negative. Basically I'm fine, but I should be home anyway. **** this ****.

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    Hi
    Im getting paranoid well not really.
    It just may be that the high speed internet hub (Wi Fi Network) I have is not good for health.
    Ive ordered Ethernet cable to use instead, it just plugs into the telephone socket and PC or laptop.
    Every home uses the hub for internet and providers Talktalk say dont switch it off or it will slow down -- oh yeah!!!--
    The energy in the kitchen seems better than the energy in the living room.
    Just covering all bases

    Any thoughts on this welcome.

    Chris
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    Chris, if you live on your own with one PC ( or at least only one at a time ), there is no need for wifi at all.


    You're doing the right thing.


    Report back in a few months after you've turned off that radio fly zapper.


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    but, how are you going to find a router that doesn't have wifi permanently on when it's powered up? I can't find the old type any more.
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    Default Re: Dealing with fear and panic

    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Chris, if you live on your own with one PC ( or at least only one at a time ), there is no need for wifi at all.


    You're doing the right thing.


    Report back in a few months after you've turned off that radio fly zapper.


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    but, how are you going to find a router that doesn't have wifi permanently on when it's powered up? I can't find the old type any more.

    Thanks Norman
    Now here is the thing == my new laptop has no ethernet plug input -- very strange
    I have my PC conected to the Talktalk modem Ethernet out put it will not allow conection unless switched on PC says no cable.
    I got a new modem about six month ago and since then been more forgetful and over tired --coincidence?

    Iv tried directly connecting PC bypassing modem says no cable.
    It would seem fast broad band needs the the new fibre modem which is twice the size of the old one and takes longer to warm up.
    I wish I had kept the old modem. That would probably not work now as the connection was maid at the main British Telecom.

    Very suspicious.

    Any suggestions?
    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    Default Re: Dealing with fear and panic

    Norman, Greybeard,

    These "suggestions" are not helpful to tame anxiety and fear. They feed it. I suggest people who "just know" what is really going on, take a break, quit over-thinking and yield to the mystery of life.

    The alternative media is creating totally unnecessary and terrifying scenarios that are far worse than anything the mainstream media is coming up with.

    Be cautious, not fearful and lean into uncertainty.

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    Quote Posted by muxfolder (here)
    It's been 2 months already and I still have sore throat. I even got tested for corona and the test came back negative. Basically I'm fine, but I should be home anyway. **** this ****.
    Mux, have you been swabbed for bacterial infection. They can persist for a long long time. I hope you are feeling better emotionally. Just know you can always come here and pour your heart out. You will be understood and many Avalonians will be happy to help you.

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Quote Posted by muxfolder (here)
    It's been 2 months already and I still have sore throat. I even got tested for corona and the test came back negative. Basically I'm fine, but I should be home anyway. **** this ****.
    Mux, have you been swabbed for bacterial infection. They can persist for a long long time. I hope you are feeling better emotionally. Just know you can always come here and pour your heart out. You will be understood and many Avalonians will be happy to help you.
    Most likely this is some sort of bacterial infection. I did see a nurse (yep, not even a doctor) and she did all the tests and came to conclusion I should be just fine. It's just very annoying to feel a bit ****ty all the time for more than 2 months, that's all. At least it's starting to get warmer here in Finland. It's been very cold spring so far, only couple of nice warm days. But this week's been nice and warm so I've been taking some longer walks and it seems to work nicely.

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