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    Man, 34, takes his own life ‘after being unable to cope with coronavirus self-isolation’

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...123941486.html


    A man who suffered from bipolar disorder has taken his own life after being unable to cope with self-isolation during the COVID-19 pandemic, his family have said.

    Daniel Furniss, 34, died last week after struggling with the lockdown at his home in Waterlooville, Hampshire.

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson has ordered the restriction of all but essential contact in order to cease the spread of the deadly virus.

    In the days before Mr Furniss’ death, he posted on social media: “There is not enough guidance for people with mental health issues.”

    Mr Furniss’ sister, Chelsea, 28, is hoping his death will raise awareness of the issues facing those with mental health problems during self-isolation.

    She said: “Dan had a long history of mental health issues and one of the things he struggled with was being on his own.

    “He lived on his own but would go out every day. Dan had diabetes and was classed as a high-risk person so after lockdown he was unable to go out which we think pushed him over the edge.

    “We were concerned about him being in isolation and stayed in touch but were not able to see him. We tried our best and let him know we were there for him.

    “More could be done to help people who are struggling while self-isolating. Hopefully what’s happened with Dan can raise awareness of these issues.”
    Mr Furniss was diagnosed with bipolar disorder as a teenager and had been unable to work because of his mental health condition.
    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    We need positive thinking to get us through this crisis.


    Nigel’s latest Coronavirus update from Saturday 4th April

    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by vizon (here)
    These graphs are heavily distorted due to the lack of / quality of testing. Specifically in the United States. We will have much better data moving through the next 3-4 weeks.
    But the shape is the same. This would be covered in the morning of Day 1 of Epidemiology 101.

    If R0 >1, then the growth is always exponential.
    Of course. But, where we are on the curve would is not the same as depicted in this picture.

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    "Trump signing a bill for over 6 trillion dollars in government giveaways with billions marked for tracking the public, to make sure everyone stays 6 feet away from each, so the public can lead miserable, fully dominated and soulless existences. Notice the socialdistancing in the picture. Everyone remarkably immune to the virus they say is the reason why everyone else must suffer, as they themselves become wealthier in their positions.
    A weak society attracts evil, as rotten meat attracts maggots. As the public (ie cattle) have lost their ability to think, rationalize and resist....the maggot infestation sets in. If you've ever waited in line to vote for a professional liar and then went home to watch TV and drink wine, thinking you did your job to maintain a free society, you're getting exactly what you asked for. "

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    In Northern Italy, 60 volunteers who thought they had never suffered COVID-19 gave blood. 40 tested positive.

    When Avis volunteers summoned them for blood donation, they were confident that they would find a high number of Covid positives19. Confirmation has come from the results of tests and swabs: out of 60 citizens of Castiglione D'Adda, one of the municipalities in the former red area of ​​Lodi, 40 tested positive without knowing it. All asymptomatic, escaped from official statistics: they came into contact with the disease, they did not develop it, but they have....(you have to pay to see more)

    https://www.lastampa.it/topnews/prim...ivo-1.38666481

    Along with the Imperial College data, it is clear there are millions of asymptomatic cases. Why isn´t MSM not using this angle? I can only see two ways out of this, herd immunity or vaccines. Neither seems very appealing.

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    Quote Posted by sunwings (here)
    In Northern Italy, 60 volunteers who thought they had never suffered COVID-19 gave blood. 40 tested positive.

    When Avis volunteers summoned them for blood donation, they were confident that they would find a high number of Covid positives19. Confirmation has come from the results of tests and swabs: out of 60 citizens of Castiglione D'Adda, one of the municipalities in the former red area of ​​Lodi, 40 tested positive without knowing it. All asymptomatic, escaped from official statistics: they came into contact with the disease, they did not develop it, but they have....(you have to pay to see more)

    https://www.lastampa.it/topnews/prim...ivo-1.38666481

    Along with the Imperial College data, it is clear there are millions of asymptomatic cases. Why isn´t MSM not using this angle? I can only see two ways out of this, herd immunity or vaccines. Neither seems very appealing.
    Sunwings, have you completely missed what this thread was separated for and retitled to mean? Or are you totally ignoring the massive amounts of verification on this thread that a believable test does not exist. This thread is for people who are not wasting time arguing what these foundationally impossible to be accurate 'reports' mean.

    Bill, please move Sunwings post and future so called 'reports' of how many more 'tested positive' to the new thread you created for them.

    Sorry so many can't respect the thread topic.
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    Understood! But it was myself who moved the post to this thread. That's because it was a an interesting and potentially significant news report suggesting how many unknown asymptomatic cases there may be.


    That's probably the case, and it's widely and strongly suspected by epidemiologists. Most suspect that the real numbers of infectious people may be up to 10x higher than is reported in any country or area, however those estimates were made and however the tests were done.

    Unless one suspects the virus doesn't exist at all, then we have to agree that infectious people do exist. In order to manage the situation, or decide whether it needs managing, we do have to somehow estimate the numbers if it's at all possible.

    Otherwise, the health services are fighting an enemy they can't see, can't measure, and don't know the location of. HOW that fight is conducted is a different discussion: it may be through hydroxychloroquine, Vitamin C, or any other alternative protocol.

    Again, we have to handle this somehow, if we start from the basis that the virus exists and people are really sick. We do need this kind of information, even if it's a best guess or a rough indicator.
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    Bill, this is in the newspaper in The Netherlands, is it realy as bad as they’re reporting here? I have run it trough google translate, the article is in dutch.

    This is the link, for the pictures.

    https://www.gelderlander.nl/buitenla...raat~aa90b273/




    Despair in Ecuador: corona deaths are on the street
    An unprecedented disaster is taking place in Ecuador. The flow of corona victims is so great that the bodies of the dead are kept at home or left on the street. Sometimes it takes days for them to be picked up. Desperate Ecuadorians share gruesome images on social media.

    Tonny van der Mee Apr 4 2020
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    Bodies piled in containers, for the hospital or just on the street. Sometimes there is a coffin among the rubbish on the sidewalk, or a car with a coffin drives through the streets as a roof box.

    Residents of Guayaquil, with 2.3 million inhabitants the largest city in Ecuador, are in desperation. Not only do they lose loved ones to the coronavirus, but they cannot then bury or cremate them.

    Hospitals are so busy that they send patients away. Many people die at home without being tested for Covid-19. But morgues are overcrowded and funeral directors have too little capacity.

    Due to strict quarantine measures, including a curfew, the dead cannot be salvaged. Sometimes the collection takes so long that families leave or burn the bodies on the street. The fear of spreading the virus is great.

    In black plastic
    Uber driver Daniel Larrea has been at home wrapped in black plastic since his death on Monday. Larrea was slightly overweight but never seriously ill. Until he had a high fever for a week and had breathing problems. Doctors advised him to stay at home. When things got worse - he turned blue and was choking - his family called an ambulance, but it was
    Unavailable.


    After his death, a new nightmare began for the next of kin. Nobody came to pick up their body. He is still in the family's small house in a poor neighborhood of Guayaquil. "We wrapped it in black plastic," said his wife Karina. “It's in the living room here. We are afraid that we are all infected. ""

    On social media, surviving relatives share macabre photos of deceased loved ones wrapped in plastic and pleas to retrieve the bodies. Images of bodies and coffins on the street appeared on television.

    Horrible stench
    "The stench is terrible," said 61-year-old funeral directors Merwin Teran in Guayaquil. He saw 50 deaths in one morgue, and 149 bodies were waiting in a cemetery for a final resting place.

    According to Terin, many funeral homes are closed. Employees take to the streets without protection to collect bodies. Officially, they are only allowed to do that after a doctor has determined the cause of death. But the doctors are too busy treating patients.

     A victim's body is in the garden until it is collected.
    A victim's body is in the garden until it is collected. © Getty Images
    Doctors complain about a shortage of tests, hospital beds and medical equipment. A growing number of doctors and nurses are also falling ill. "The situation is similar to that in Italy," said pulmonologist Mireya Rodas at Guayaquil Hospital.

    Since the first case of infection in late February, a 71-year-old woman who had been in Spain, Ecuador has had the most infections in South America after Brazil. Officially, the country has 145 deaths and 3,368 infections. The actual number of victims may be five times higher, experts estimate.


    The Guayas region, with the metropolitan city of Guayaquil, is most affected with nearly 70 percent of all victims. President Lenin Moreno expects 2500 to 3500 deaths in the provinces in the coming months. He says there will be more hospital beds, respirators and health workers, and a new cemetery is being constructed.

    The Ministry of Health says that new technology will soon allow more tests to be carried out, around 1,400 a day. "We are asking forgiveness from those who had to wait days for their loved ones to be picked up," said Jorge Wated, head of the task force.

    Hospitals now often send patients away. They die at home without treatment or diagnosis. Uber driver Daniel Larrea had all the symptoms of the coronavirus, but has never been tested. But Ecuadorians also die from other diseases, because they cannot be treated.

     
    © Getty Images
    Like Carmen Suarez (71), who, according to the family, had kidney problems. When her legs swelled and turned gray, the family got zero on hospital complaints. There were no beds. After her death, it took three days for her body to be collected at home.

    Finally, the family called a funeral director who brought a coffin and embalmed Carmen's body, laid out on a patio. "It is a disaster now happening in Guayaquil," said her son-in-law Byron Moreira, 36. "I do not wish this to my greatest enemy."

    It is a disaster that is now happening in Guayaquil. I do not wish this to my greatest enemy
    Byron Moreira
    Now officers and military personnel are deployed to collect and bury bodies. According to the government of Ecuador, they now collect 150 a day from people's homes. A few days ago there were only 30 a day.

    Meanwhile, President Moreno is trying to avoid more unrest. The government is investigating thousands of social media profiles. They would spread "fake news" to discredit Moreno.

    Corpse burns
    These include photos of alleged graves for corona deaths in Guayaquil and mortal burns on the streets. According to the government, these are photos of a funeral in Mexico and not bodies were burned, but car tires.

    The government says former president and rival Rafael Correa, who is in exile in Belgium, is running a hate campaign against Moreno.

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    Bill, this is in the newspaper in The Netherlands, is it realy as bad as they’re reporting here? I have run it trough google translate, the article is in dutch.

    This is the link, for the pictures.

    https://www.gelderlander.nl/buitenla...raat~aa90b273/

    Despair in Ecuador: corona deaths are on the street
    An unprecedented disaster is taking place in Ecuador. The flow of corona victims is so great that the bodies of the dead are kept at home or left on the street. Sometimes it takes days for them to be picked up. Desperate Ecuadorians share gruesome images on social media.
    Yes, this is for real, though the social media reports make it look worse than it actually is. But it's bad, for sure.

    Ecuador in general is in good shape, and it's only in Guayaquil (a large, crowded port city) that the services are overwhelmed. The government here has openly admitted (honestly and refreshingly!) that they're very worried.

    Borders are closed (and they did this before most other countries), vehicles can only be on the roads one day a week, with none at all at weekends. No buses (which is how many local people travel). Supermarkets require mask and gloves to be worn for entry, but there are no shortages of anything at all. There's a national curfew from 2pm—5am (15 hours a day).

    Similar to the situation in every other country, the problem here is how long this can be maintained before the indigenous people mobilize protests like the ones here last October that brought the country to a halt and cost $3 billion.

    So far, everyone's very compliant — but this can only last so long. That's a global problem. And here, many people earn just $100 a week, with no savings, no bank accounts, no 'helicopter' bail-out money from the government. No money means no food.

    There are similar problems in many other developing countries, so it's serious — and it'll get much worse before it gets better. I really fear for Africa and India, where there are disasters lying in wait to happen just a few weeks from now.


    ~~~

    Update: (published in The Guardian 25 mins ago)

    From https://theguardian.com/world/live/2...080bdb9f534525

    Ecuador has begun storing the bodies of those who have died from coronavirus in giant refrigerated containers, after hundreds of deaths in the city of Guayaquil, the epicentre of the country’s outbreaks, have filled up morgues and hospitals.

    The government has installed three containers, the largest about 12 meters (40 ft) long, at public hospitals to preserve bodies until graves were prepared, according to Guayaquil’s mayor, Cynthia Viteri.

    Ecuador’s death toll is currently at 318, one of the highest tolls in Latin America. President Lenin Moreno warned this week that the real figure was higher, as authorities were collecting more than 100 bodies a day, many from relatives’ homes, as a strict quarantine prevented them from being buried.
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    USA just discovered the man who manufactured and sold the #coronavirus to #China. Dr #CharlesLieber, head of the chemistry and biology department at #HarvardUniversity, USA. He was just arrested today according to American department sources.
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    USA just discovered the man who manufactured and sold the #coronavirus to #China. Dr #CharlesLieber, head of the chemistry and biology department at #HarvardUniversity, USA. He was just arrested today according to American department sources.
    I'm confused, I thought this happened back in January? This story from NPR is from February

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    Quote Posted by rainsong (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    USA just discovered the man who manufactured and sold the #coronavirus to #China. Dr #CharlesLieber, head of the chemistry and biology department at #HarvardUniversity, USA. He was just arrested today according to American department sources.
    I'm confused, I thought this happened back in January? This story from NPR is from February

    Harvard Professor's Arrest Raises Questions About Scientific Openness
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    Yes, you're right. Satori posted here:

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    Lieber was arrested in mid-January 2020. This is older news, but it may be important. The press release of Lieber’s arrest is from Jan. 2020 also. Nothing in the video proves the so-called virus originated in the USA. But it raises suspicions about who is involved, but with what?

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    Update from my neck of the woods (Georgia):

    Atlanta hospitals are at capacity now. Cases are still coming in. But testing is getting stalled.

    Governor Kemp's shelter in place order opened up the beaches. The mayors had them shut down, but the executive order over-rode all the local ordinances, so that meant that the beaches opened back up. But it's not party-time. The DNR is not allowing chairs or umbrellas or some other stuff and is making sure that proper distancing occurs.

    Several of the local sheriff's offices have been quick to reassure people by posting on their Facebook pages that they will NOT be stopping people to check to see if they are complying with the shelter in place restrictions. Oconee County is probably the most widely followed sheriff's page, and this is from theirs (emphasis mine):
    Quote You will not be randomly stopped by OCSO personnel.

    The Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution is still in full effect. OCSO personnel must have at least reasonable articulable suspicion of a violation of the order to conduct an investigative stop. Probable cause of a violation must be present in order to make a charge. Anyone accused of a violation is presumed innocent unless convicted in court.

    The burden of proof is on the government. Citizens don't have to prove anything.

    The only normalcy we all have right now is that we are still America, Let's not give that up.
    Several others have said basically the same thing, just not quite so eloquently.

    Every day, there are more medical workers asking for medical masks and other handmade PPE like caps and even gowns. And every time they post, they are immediately swamped with replies of people volunteering, telling them what groups to reach out to, and even offering to donate money for supplies.

    Tipping for workers has been really great. Those that are able to have been very generous. For grocery workers (at Kroger specifically), it's people like this who are seeing them through, because I don't care what you read in the news, the corporations do. not. care. about their employees and have not been doing squat to actually protect them. For the self-employed like lawn maintenance, work load is down severely, but tips are helping to make up some difference, even though it doesn't completely alleviate it.

    There are lots of free items being posted for pickup or for donation. Even stuff like diapers and food--I saw one post for a gallon of milk! People asking for help are getting it. I truly love seeing people helping each other like that.

    So I know the news is bad, but there are a lot of good people out there helping each other.

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    USA just discovered the man who manufactured and sold the #coronavirus to #China. Dr #CharlesLieber, head of the chemistry and biology department at #HarvardUniversity, USA. He was just arrested today according to American department sources.
    Ben Laden ?

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    I just watched "Tagesschau" the German daily dose of TV offcialdom and a virus expert from the Charite in Berlin one of the formost research hospitals said, and I paraphrase: we will have to losen up these measures eventually and then the disease will spread thru the citizenry and the death rate wont be much worse than the NORMAL FLU. (He did suggest to get the elderly to some save location first)
    I was a bit surprised by this open admission to say the least.

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    Quote Posted by sunwings (here)
    Next week, we will see Britain and USA recording record deaths.

    I've been charting the Covid-19 deaths for quite a number of countries, daily.
    Italy's deaths haven't just peaked, they have been in decline for almost two weeks!
    Is the MSM broadcasting this?

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Chris, this may be the issue here.

    Bill, why post a graph with half the data?
    Today is Apr 4, 2020. We have data up until today.
    Italy's deaths for example have been in steady decline for almost two weeks, having also imposed quarantine restrictions.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    There are similar problems in many other developing countries, so it's serious — and it'll get much worse before it gets better. I really fear for Africa and India, where there are disasters lying in wait to happen just a few weeks from now.
    Bill wouldn't you agree that what is taking place by the government of India is absolutely ludicrous?

    The country has a population of 1.3 billion.
    There have been 3588 Covid-19 cases so far and a whopping 99 deaths!

    Possibly a slight over-reaction on the part of the government?

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    USA just discovered the man who manufactured and sold the #coronavirus to #China. Dr #CharlesLieber, head of the chemistry and biology department at #HarvardUniversity, USA. He was just arrested today according to American department sources.
    Ben Laden ?
    Do you have a source for the story?
    You mean the virus that was sold to China and leaked from a lab into pigs, in the wind?

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    Well I guess I am going to cross-post and exit the other thread.

    I am mainly curious to track my area v. Sweden, about the same population.

    A week before lockdown, we had about a hundred cases. By the time it started about a week ago, we had 1,500, compared to Sweden's 3,500; Sweden had about a hundred at the beginning of March, and now reports 6,000 to our 2,400. So there is about a two week headstart for them in terms of outbreak. They passed the same "ramp" of 1,500 to 2,400 from around March 18-24, which is about a week. So in this early stage, it appears to take a week to get 900 or a 1,000 cases, regardless of following the Swedish model or American.

    This is not a total lock, we just have many businesses and gatherings stopped and can only go out during the day in limited, distant numbers. I cannot quite figure out the law: we would be asked to "leave the streets" after 5, but some mayors put a 9 p. m. curfew; maybe that means they get serious about arrests.

    Dr. Lieber's arrest was on one count of making a materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statement. Like most judges, he did not declare a conflict of interest while taking a government research grant as well as money from Wuhan University. Nothing to do with a virus.

    Harvard also just happens to be the main place that J & J is working on their "new vaccine".

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    Recruit volunteer army to trace coronavirus contacts now, urge top scientists

    The Guardian James Tapper,The Guardian
    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/recruit-vo...142544966.html

    Ministers must recruit an army of “contact tracing” volunteers to warn people who may have been infected by a Covid-19 sufferer, say public health experts.

    More than 50 leading scientists say health secretary Matt Hancock’s plans to introduce 100,000 tests a day by the end of April will only solve part of the problem of establishing how far the virus has spread.

    The scientists have come together to form the UK Covid-19 Group of Experts, and say contact tracing – identifying then alerting people who have been within infection range of a person confirmed to have the virus – will be a vital addition to testing when the lockdown begins to ease.

    Professor Allyson Pollock, a consultant in public health and director of the Newcastle University Centre for Excellence in Regulatory Science, said: “The government needs to recognise that this isn’t just one big epidemic. It’s lots of outbreaks at different stages that all need to be tackled locally through local teams, and local action plans in each area so measures can be lifted over time.”
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    Health secretary Matt Hancock, who has tested positive for coronavirus, explains his ‘five pillars’ at a video-link media briefing on Thursday. Photograph: PA

    Public Health England was contact tracing cases until 12 March, at which point 32 people had died after contracting coronavirus. Schools stayed open for another eight days and it was 11 days before Boris Johnson announced the lockdown, on 23 March.

    In the face of growing criticism over the lack of testing for frontline health professionals and those with mild symptoms, Hancock announced a “five-pillar” plan last Thursday. He pledged to increase lab testing dramatically, introduce new antibody tests for people who may have had the virus, and conduct “surveillance testing” – checking samples of the population to model the extent of the virus’s spread.

    “We’ve lost nearly two months in getting on top of this epidemic,” Pollock said. “And that’s what the scandal is really.” She said there would be a second wave of infections, and planning needed to start now.

    “Clearly we don’t have the capacity to do contact tracing, but we can just call for volunteers, train them up to do it and combine that with mobile phone apps as in Singapore and South Korea and China.”

    Contact tracing was used in Wuhan, where 1,800 teams of five people went house to house, and Ireland last week said it would recruit 1,400 contact tracers. On 27 March the World Health Organisation director general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, reiterated the need for “early detection and isolation of confirmed cases [and the] identification, follow-up and quarantine of contacts”.

    Some UK public health professionals, however, believe it is too late for contact tracing because the virus has spread too far. And the example set by Singapore appears increasingly questionable: the country is to close most workplaces and all schools this week following the prime minister’s admission that “despite our good contact tracing” the authorities have been unable to ascertain the origin of nearly half its new cases.

    One senior director of public health, responsible for local health teams including contact tracing, dismissed the experts group as “armchair commentators”. “Contact tracing would be a waste of time right now,” said the director, who asked not to be named. “We should have done better on testing, but that’s being resolved. Contact tracing would tell you nothing because it’s so widespread. We have to focus on increasing testing, and most virologists I’ve spoken to would agree.

    “I suspect there will come a time for contract tracing again, but not now. It’s when you start getting outbreaks in care homes and prisons and hospitals, or possibly when we’re through the first or second peak and the numbers are bumping along the bottom.”

    Yet the calls for contact tracing to resume appear to be gathering steam. Shadow health secretary Jonathan Ashworth has repeatedly called for testing and contact tracing.At the beginnng of last week, Pollock and three others published a paper in the British Medical Journal questioning why the government was not following WHO advice. Then last Wednesday, 24 public health experts, led by David McCoy, professor of global public health at Barts Medical School, signed an open letter urging the government “to expand community testing and individual case detection, contact tracing and appropriate isolation as a core disease control measure”.

    “Testing and quarantine are not enough on their own,” McCoy said, “especially if we want to avoid some of the serious harms that would be caused by prolonged lockdown. It is not clear why the government is resisting the evidence from elsewhere, as well as the views of the majority of public health opinion.”

    The group has since expanded to include more than 50 public health experts, Pollock said.

    AnneliesWilder-Smith, professor of emerging infectious diseases at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said: “To anyone who tells me that contact tracing is too expensive or not do-able, I just say, rubbish. We are now basically quarantining 68 million people. That is so much more expensive. But at the moment, we cannot do contract tracing.”
    A woman in singapore looks at a smartphone with the contact-tracing app on it.
    The Singapore government introduced a smartphone app to trace people who had come into contact with a Covid-19 sufferer. Photograph: Catherine Lai/AFP

    She said with the epidemic “out of hand”, the lockdown needs time to interrupt the virus’s transmission.

    “Then we can go back to the basics of dealing with this outbreak. You test, test, test, test. You find a case, you isolate the case; you find their contacts and you isolate their contacts.”

    The Department for Health and Social Care did not respond to requests for comment, but some academics believe smartphone apps might provide automatic contact tracing.

    NHSX, a division of the NHS responsible for digital innovation, is working on an app that would monitor other phones’ Bluetooth signals, keeping a record of those most at risk – possibly anyone who stayed within two metres for 15 minutes, the FT reported. If a user tested positive, they could upload a notification, which would warn people they needed to self-isolate.

    Yet the tracking technology would raise privacy concerns, and the system would not work efficiently unless tens of millions of people downloaded the app.

    “Mobile technology may be a useful adjunct, but contact tracing and the behaviour change we subsequently want to engender needs an active human element,” McCoy said.


    Chris says Well you have been warned about tracking.
    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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