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    Dear Friends,

    This post is simply to start this new thread. Please see my detailed explanation here.

    As the title suggests, this thread is for Covid19 global reports, news and updates. There are three other new threads to discuss other specific angles and aspects of the current situation.
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    This is interesting. Either the virus is changing, or people are.

    (Meaning, 'younger' people may be over-confident about being 'immune', and aren't taking nearly enough care not to become infected. And many 'younger' people have poor diets, poor lifestyles, and compromised immune systems, too.)

    ~~~
    North Carolina says 43% of people diagnosed with Covid-19 are ages 25-49

    Dr. Mandy K. Cohen, secretary of the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services (NCDHHS), announced Friday that 43% of people diagnosed with Covid-19 are ages 25-49. So far, 29% are age 50-64 and 20% are age 65 and up, Cohen said.

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    At long last: (At least this is one step forwards.)

    WHO supports countries in their decisions around masks, official says


    From https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-n...ntl/index.html
    While the World Health Organization has not changed its position on whether the general public should wear face masks during the coronavirus pandemic, it will support individual countries in making their own national recommendations around mask wearing.
    "We can certainly see circumstances in which the use of masks — both homemade and cloth masks — at the community level may help in an overall comprehensive response to this disease, and we will support governments in making those decisions based on the situation they find themselves in in terms of transmission," Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO executive director of health emergencies programme, said during a media briefing in Geneva on Friday.
    Ryan said that wearing a mask in public doesn't necessarily protect the person wearing it, but rather helps to limit that person's likelihood of infecting others if that person is sick.
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    If anyone reading this wants to decide for themselves whether to wear a mask or not (and I'm totally convinced we all should be, even if they're improvised), just watch this short 7 minute video.


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    I'm no sure if this is the place but today I saw this http://www.ibecbarcelona.eu/research...s-of-covid-19/

    I think it's good to shine some light and give some hope with this type of news in this dark times even tho we have to take this articles with caution as this treatments may not be successfull or may take long.

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    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...tl-pkg-vpx.cnn

    Watch the video make up your own mind.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    At long last: (At least this is one step forwards.)

    WHO supports countries in their decisions around masks, official says


    ... If anyone reading this wants to decide for themselves whether to wear a mask or not (and I'm totally convinced we all should be, even if they're improvised), just watch this short 7 minute video.

    Bill I don't want to cross contaminate your post (sorry for the sick analogy).
    You will see how easy it is to have a thread derailed, unintentionally.

    As Dr. Andrew Kaufman pointed out, face masks will not filter out viruses:

    "Given the size of these particles (500 nm), that they are so tiny, there's really no way that you can prevent them from getting out or getting in, so if you look at the pores of the masks people are wearing, they are way bigger than the size of these particles. So they're essentially going to go right through."

    We use strainers and colanders to filter foods (pasta, rice, vegetables etc.) from water or other liquids.
    Sometimes we use them to filter larger foods from smaller foods.

    Now think of a strainer or a mask (with its pores) trying to filter out a 500 nm particle.

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    As Dr. Andrew Kaufman pointed out, face masks will not filter out viruses.
    Right. But there's a very good argument (did you see the video?) that they filter out aerosol droplets containing viruses, at least partially. In other words, they're almost certainly better than nothing.

    That was Chris Martenson's main point, and I think I agree, based on what I feel I understand. The video contains a couple of excellent animations, which I'm not able to post separately... do watch it.

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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    As Dr. Andrew Kaufman pointed out, face masks will not filter out viruses.
    Right. But there's a very good argument (did you see the video?) that they filter out aerosol droplets containing viruses, at least partially. In other words, they're almost certainly better than nothing.

    That was Chris Martenson's main point, and I think I agree, based on what I feel I understand. The video contains a couple of excellent animations, which I'm not able to post separately... do watch it.
    The wearing of masks helps to build fear as well.

    My apologies if this is not in line with the new thread (and I am certainly not being sarcastic in any way). I understand why you have separated the threads in the way you have, but speaking for myself, I sometimes post info that although might seem to be off topic but I post it because I would like the people who are reading the thread get that particular message or thought. Maybe others have done the same.

    And in case you have not recognized this - the threads and posts are a reflection of the situation that we are finding ourselves in - it is all mixed up and sending our thoughts in different directions.

    It feels like TPTB have done a really good job of messing with us this time. I am hoping that someone somewhere is starting a counter movement because it is starting to feel like we really need one.

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    Quote Posted by Patient (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    As Dr. Andrew Kaufman pointed out, face masks will not filter out viruses.
    Right. But there's a very good argument (did you see the video?) that they filter out aerosol droplets containing viruses, at least partially. In other words, they're almost certainly better than nothing.

    That was Chris Martenson's main point, and I think I agree, based on what I feel I understand. The video contains a couple of excellent animations, which I'm not able to post separately... do watch it.
    The wearing of masks helps to build fear as well.

    My apologies if this is not in line with the new thread (and I am certainly not being sarcastic in any way). I understand why you have separated the threads in the way you have, but speaking for myself, I sometimes post info that although might seem to be off topic but I post it because I would like the people who are reading the thread get that particular message or thought. Maybe others have done the same.

    And in case you have not recognized this - the threads and posts are a reflection of the situation that we are finding ourselves in - it is all mixed up and sending our thoughts in different directions.

    It feels like TPTB have done a really good job of messing with us this time. I am hoping that someone somewhere is starting a counter movement because it is starting to feel like we really need one.
    I am starting a counter-movement that involves strengthening our immune systems with powerful Seraphic energies. See the members only thread I started today about a teleconference we are holding this coming Monday, April 6th in which a Seraph will share powerful healing energies with all who join.

    Angel Healing Teleconference - April 6th
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    "THE HEAD OF THE WORLD Health Organization said that almost everyone who has died of the coronavirus in Europe has been over the age of 60.

    Dr. Hans Kluge, the regional director for WHO Europe, said in a virtual press briefing that 95% of COVID-19 fatalities on the continent have been people older than 60. Additionally, more than 50% of all deaths in Europe were people aged 80 or older.

    However, younger people are not immune. Ten to 15% of people under 50 with the coronavirus have developed moderate or severe infection.

    "The very notion that COVID-19 only affects older people is factually wrong," Kluge stressed. "Severe cases of the disease have been seen in people in their teens or 20s with many requiring intensive care and some unfortunately passing away."

    Age is also not the only risk factor. Eight in 10 deaths have occurred in people with at least one underlying medical condition, particularly cardiovascular diseases, hypertension and diabetes."
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    The good news about hydroxychloroquine continues to pour in. Last week, Dr. William Grace, an oncologist affiliated with Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, said they’ve not had any deaths in the hospital of close to a 100 patients. In an interview with Fox News host Laura Ingraham, Dr. Grace said: “Thanks to hydroxychloroquine, we have not had a death in our hospital.’https://techstartups.com/2020/03/30/...eath-hospital/

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    This is important. The treatment should be open to question and making change. I don't know who Could be the lead in coordinating. Actually in my preference, we would have Tulsi Gabbard and other smart people. If anyone knows who needs this pass it on.....





    I plan to use some DIY with a mask and use some ideas such as filter paper soaking in salt water. the sataurated papers attracts the droplets. Once saturated the viral coating shrivels.I'd like professional masks that work to stop viral spread. A cloth mask is better than no mask. I plan to stay home. No matter what we think, this is an Introvert'sGolden Age.

    How To Make A Bandana Face Mask, No Sewing Required
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    Next week, we will see Britain and USA recording record deaths.


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    Coronavirus: Boris Johnson urged to reconsider lockdown strategy by virus adviser

    The Independent Peter Stubley,The Independent

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...230814319.html


    Boris Johnson’s key adviser on the coronavirus pandemic has urged the prime minister to find a way of ending the nationwide lockdown, according to a report in The Times.

    Graham Medley, an expert in the spread of infectious diseases, suggested the government had “painted itself into a corner” by imposing widespread restrictions on movement that he claims may cause more damage than the epidemic itself.

    He suggested the potential harm caused by the restrictions included economic damage. "I don’t mean to the economy generally, I mean to the incomes of people who rely on a continuous stream of money and their children, particularly the school closure aspect," he told The Times.

    "There will also be actual harms in terms of mental health, in terms of domestic violence and child abuse, and in terms of food poverty.”

    He argued that the UK may still have to reconsider the herd immunity strategy to “allow people to catch the virus in the least deadly way possible”, the newspaper claimed.

    This would involve accepting the heightened risk to the elderly rather than harming younger generations with rising unemployment, domestic violence and mental illness, it suggests.

    Professor Medley, of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, also reportedly claimed that the epidemic would inevitably peak again once the lockdown was loosened and people returned to work.

    He has previously argued against rushing into banning football games or closing schools, saying that it “feels good but isn’t necessarily evidence-based”.

    “My problem with many countries’ strategies is that they haven’t thought beyond the next month,” he told The Atlantic magazine in early March.

    “The UK is different. We’re at the beginning of a long process, and we’re working out the best way to get there with the least public-health impact.”

    It followed reports that the prime minister was relying on the strategy of creating natural immunity among the population by allowing the disease to spread, rather than impose lockdowns of the kind seen in China and Italy.

    Amid widespread criticism of the government’s approach, health secretary Matt Hancock insisted that herd immunity was “a scientific concept, not a goal or strategy”.

    Professor Medley himself described herd immunity as a side-effect of the main goal of delaying and reducing the peak of infections, often referred to as “flattening the curve”. A week later, the prime minister ordered the closure of pubs and restaurants. The national lockdown then followed on 24 March.

    Mr Hancock predicted on Friday that the UK’s outbreak could peak over Easter, with more than 1,000 deaths in a day. He urged the public to remain indoors during the warm weather over the weekend, warning the public: “People will die”.

    The latest figures released on Friday afternoon revealed the death toll had risen by nearly 600 to 3,605. It was also confirmed that two NHS nurses, Areema Nasreen and Aimee O’Rourke, had died after contracting coronavirus.

    The UK’s chief nursing officer, Ruth May, on Friday urged Britons to comply with the lockdown, commenting: “This weekend is going to be very warm and it’s going to be very tempting to go out and enjoy those rays but I ask you to remember Aimee and Areema, please stay at home for them”.


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    Total UK COVID-19 Cases Update

    Data as of Friday 3rd April 2020

    UK Cumulative Totals
    38,168 cases
    3,605 deaths

    UK Daily Totals
    4,450 cases
    684 deaths

    Hardly the epidemic forecast for UK

    The link is live and gives daily and cumulative figures for UK
    https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...0b19484dd4bb14
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Total UK COVID-19 Cases Update

    Data as of Friday 3rd April 2020

    UK Cumulative Totals
    38,168 cases
    3,605 deaths

    UK Daily Totals
    4,450 cases
    684 deaths

    Hardly the epidemic forecast for UK

    The link is live and gives daily and cumulative figures for UK
    https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...0b19484dd4bb14
    Those numbers are for people tested of course i.e people who are hospitalized. Of those that are hospitalized it looks like 10% or so die. Of course you could multiply the figures for those infected in the general population by any figure you care to pluck out of the air say ten fold, twenty fold or even more who knows. So lets wait until we get the antibody tests then say it's not an epidemic.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Total UK COVID-19 Cases Update

    Data as of Friday 3rd April 2020

    UK Cumulative Totals
    38,168 cases
    3,605 deaths

    UK Daily Totals
    4,450 cases
    684 deaths

    Hardly the epidemic forecast for UK

    The link is live and gives daily and cumulative figures for UK
    https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...0b19484dd4bb14
    Chris, this may be the issue here.


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    OK, to be taken with a grain of salt as there is a clear anti CPC agenda (which I btw. share) but it could still be true and in that case who knows what the real death toll is. There is a similar older vid from "china uncensored" reporting similar developments.
    Only the first 10 minutes or so cover this:



    here is the older vid:

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Total UK COVID-19 Cases Update

    Data as of Friday 3rd April 2020

    UK Cumulative Totals
    38,168 cases
    3,605 deaths

    UK Daily Totals
    4,450 cases
    684 deaths

    Hardly the epidemic forecast for UK

    The link is live and gives daily and cumulative figures for UK
    https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...0b19484dd4bb14
    Chris, this may be the issue here.

    These graphs are heavily distorted due to the lack of / quality of testing. Specifically in the United States. We will have much better data moving through the next 3-4 weeks.
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    Default Re: Covid19: Global reports, news and updates

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    These graphs are heavily distorted due to the lack of / quality of testing. Specifically in the United States. We will have much better data moving through the next 3-4 weeks.
    But the shape is the same. This would be covered in the morning of Day 1 of Epidemiology 101.

    If R0 >1, then the growth is always exponential.

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