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    Quote Posted by kfm27917 (here)
    It is downing on me that there are very few news (internationally (1)) about any thing else but Covid !
    In previous similar operations of the Powers That Be, similar media tactics were used to cover up
    something that would be making a big stink about some important people.

    So what are we missing hearing about ?
    Great question.

    We're missing hearing about this: (see my earlier post #55)

    A devastating 16 minute video by Abby Martin, published yesterday. It lays out
    1. The extent of US hypocrisy (claiming they're trying to save lives with one hand while bombing to kill with the other)
    2. How the US military is taking advantage of the pandemic.
    Be braced. It's savage.

    US Empire Exploits Covid-19 For More War


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    Whare are the bombs dropping, and who are they dropping on ?
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    A short, concise and very clear critique of the current lockdown measures in the US and their knock-on domino-chain effects.


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    The Fed is definitely gobbling up assets, making a "working unit" with the Treasury and Black Rock.

    Secretary of the Treasury is Governor of the IMF and several regional development banks. If any kind of salary comes from this, it is the same conflict of interest as the judges and so-called spies can be prosecuted for.

    The World Bank is practically a mouthpiece/enforcer of U. S. policy. I have not looked in-depth as to what these Governorships are, but they are with "foreign agencies".

    There is definitely a move to make Iraq into a battlefield: addition of Patriot missiles, and contraction from multiple bases into four big ones, with the intent to start a destructive campaign. I don't think it will work well, or as automatically, as most of the prior moves.

    In one sense, the public is being given hush money. For instance, 75% of the business loans can be forgiven if spent in eight weeks. But looking at the sums involved, this is a small portion of what goes to the markets and the military, which suggests people are not the priority. Is it a benefit to give a portion of your own money back to you? Not compared to someone taking the rest of it and being able to issue ten times that amount in loans which eventually bring financial returns, or more assets.

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    If people can't see fakery after fakery and still cling to the media farce narrative, ARHHAHAHAHAH !

    In this video, there is a section of a chanel4 'report' from last weekend. Right there in the middle of it, without any disclaimer about library footage, is a completely fake scene. The TV station or it's sub production content provider is deceiving the viewers. Why?

    Go to 27mins 55 seconds
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoK6h4Mg7E8


    the source:

    https://truepundit.com/shock-video-t...y-a-mannequin/
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    What did they know, exactly? US intel warned of 'cataclysmic' coronavirus pandemic in NOVEMBER 2019, report claims

    US military intelligence tried to raise the alarm about the coronavirus epidemic in China when it was still embryonic in November, inside sources claim - raising questions of what they knew and who ignored, or squashed the report.

    Not only had the coronavirus epidemic begun spiraling out of control in Wuhan by November 2019, but military analysts were already warning it "could be a cataclysmic event" for both China and the US, four sources familiar with the briefings told ABC on Wednesday. Analysts at the National Center for Medical Intelligence, a subsidiary of the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency, had been trying to alert Pentagon and Donald Trump administration officials of the looming catastrophe for months before the country finally took action, the sources claim.

    Based on detailed analysis of intercepted communications and satellite imagery, the NCMI reportedly projected that a virulent contagion already getting out of hand in Wuhan would soon be menacing not just China but US troops stationed nearby. Most intriguingly, the sources hint that analysts may have begun looking into the unfolding epidemic even earlier, given the timeline for when the material crossed President Trump's desk. By the time the agency's warnings made it into the President's Daily Brief in early January, they would have had to undergo "weeks of vetting and analysis."

    "The timeline of the intel side of this may be further back than we're discussing," one source told ABC, suggesting "preliminary reports from Wuhan" dated back even earlier than the NCMI report, which was widely released among the intelligence community before Thanksgiving and spawned several intel community bulletins that supposedly outlined Beijing's own responses to the growing epidemic. China knew the coronavirus had gotten out of control, the sources allege, but tried to keep it under wraps - a claim the Trump administration has echoed repeatedly in the months since then.

    The new revelations place the timeline for the virus' origins much closer to the controversial claims of Chinese foreign policy spokesman Lijian Zhao, who claimed last month (albeit without real evidence) that the US military had brought the virus to Wuhan when they sent a delegation to the Military World Games in mid-October.

    The Trump administration has been slammed for dragging its feet in response to the coronavirus epidemic, playing down the potential disruption the disease would cause even as it upended China's economy and forced millions into quarantine. While the president insisted "no one could have known" the virus would wreak such havoc in the US, there's no way the Trump administration could not have seen the information in the NCMI report, former deputy assistant defense secretary Mick Mulroy told ABC, claiming "it would be a significant alarm that would have been set off" and "literally every intelligence-collection agency" would have gotten involved in following up and responding to the threat.

    But Defense Secretary Mark Esper told the outlet he was unaware of the issue coming before the National Security Council in November or December. No official response was forthcoming from the administration until Trump closed the border to flights from China in late January - all the while insisting there was nothing to worry about (and, if insider stock sales by multiple senators were any indication, telling Congress something different). Worse, not only had multiple government agencies conducted several pandemic "war games" in the months leading up to the outbreak, but they had performed poorly, making many of the same missteps that they would faithfully repeat in real life.

    more at
    https://www.sott.net/article/432179-...-report-claims

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    What did they know, exactly? US intel warned of 'cataclysmic' coronavirus pandemic in NOVEMBER 2019, report claims

    US military intelligence tried to raise the alarm about the coronavirus epidemic in China when it was still embryonic in November, inside sources claim - raising questions of what they knew and who ignored, or squashed the report.

    Not only had the coronavirus epidemic begun spiraling out of control in Wuhan by November 2019, but military analysts were already warning it "could be a cataclysmic event" for both China and the US, four sources familiar with the briefings told ABC on Wednesday. Analysts at the National Center for Medical Intelligence, a subsidiary of the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency, had been trying to alert Pentagon and Donald Trump administration officials of the looming catastrophe for months before the country finally took action, the sources claim.

    Based on detailed analysis of intercepted communications and satellite imagery, the NCMI reportedly projected that a virulent contagion already getting out of hand in Wuhan would soon be menacing not just China but US troops stationed nearby. Most intriguingly, the sources hint that analysts may have begun looking into the unfolding epidemic even earlier, given the timeline for when the material crossed President Trump's desk. By the time the agency's warnings made it into the President's Daily Brief in early January, they would have had to undergo "weeks of vetting and analysis."

    "The timeline of the intel side of this may be further back than we're discussing," one source told ABC, suggesting "preliminary reports from Wuhan" dated back even earlier than the NCMI report, which was widely released among the intelligence community before Thanksgiving and spawned several intel community bulletins that supposedly outlined Beijing's own responses to the growing epidemic. China knew the coronavirus had gotten out of control, the sources allege, but tried to keep it under wraps - a claim the Trump administration has echoed repeatedly in the months since then.

    The new revelations place the timeline for the virus' origins much closer to the controversial claims of Chinese foreign policy spokesman Lijian Zhao, who claimed last month (albeit without real evidence) that the US military had brought the virus to Wuhan when they sent a delegation to the Military World Games in mid-October.

    The Trump administration has been slammed for dragging its feet in response to the coronavirus epidemic, playing down the potential disruption the disease would cause even as it upended China's economy and forced millions into quarantine. While the president insisted "no one could have known" the virus would wreak such havoc in the US, there's no way the Trump administration could not have seen the information in the NCMI report, former deputy assistant defense secretary Mick Mulroy told ABC, claiming "it would be a significant alarm that would have been set off" and "literally every intelligence-collection agency" would have gotten involved in following up and responding to the threat.

    But Defense Secretary Mark Esper told the outlet he was unaware of the issue coming before the National Security Council in November or December. No official response was forthcoming from the administration until Trump closed the border to flights from China in late January - all the while insisting there was nothing to worry about (and, if insider stock sales by multiple senators were any indication, telling Congress something different). Worse, not only had multiple government agencies conducted several pandemic "war games" in the months leading up to the outbreak, but they had performed poorly, making many of the same missteps that they would faithfully repeat in real life.

    more at
    https://www.sott.net/article/432179-...-report-claims
    If you take that in conjunction with this article (copied below), compelling evidence starts to mount that someone, somewhere, has been working very quietly and diligently to ensure this epidemic took off big time in the US.

    If so (and I heavily lean to this myself), this scenario is still in play right now.

    ~~~
    Hospitals say Feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word

    7 April, 2020

    Although President Trump has directed states and hospitals to secure what supplies they can, the federal government is quietly seizing orders, leaving medical providers across the country in the dark about where the material is going and how they can get what they need to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.

    Hospital and clinic officials in seven states described the seizures in interviews over the past week. The Federal Emergency Management Agency is not publicly reporting the acquisitions, despite the outlay of millions of dollars of taxpayer money, nor has the administration detailed how it decides which supplies to seize and where to reroute them.

    Officials who’ve had materials seized also say they’ve received no guidance from the government about how or if they will get access to the supplies they ordered. That has stoked concerns about how public funds are being spent and whether the Trump administration is fairly distributing scarce medical supplies.

    “In order to have confidence in the distribution system, to know that it is being done in an equitable manner, you have to have transparency,” said Dr. John Hick, an emergency physician at Hennepin Healthcare in Minnesota who has helped develop national emergency preparedness standards through the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine.

    The medical leaders on the front lines of the fight to control the coronavirus and keep patients alive say they are grasping for explanations. “We can’t get any answers,” said a California hospital official who asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation from the White House.

    In Florida, a large medical system saw an order for thermometers taken away. And officials at a system in Massachusetts were unable to determine where its order of masks went.

    “Are they stockpiling this stuff? Are they distributing it? We don’t know,” one official said. “And are we going to ever get any of it back if we need supplies? It would be nice to know these things.”

    PeaceHealth, a 10-hospital system in Washington, Oregon and Alaska, had a shipment of testing supplies seized recently. “It’s incredibly frustrating,” said Richard DeCarlo, the system’s chief operating officer.

    “We had put wheels in motion with testing and protective equipment to allow us to secure and protect our staff and our patients,” he said. “When testing went off the table, we had to come up with a whole new plan.”

    Although PeaceHealth doesn’t have hospitals in the Seattle area, where the first domestic coronavirus outbreak occurred, the system has had a steady stream of potentially infected patients who require testing and care by doctors and nurse in full protective equipment.

    Trump and other White House officials, including his close advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner, have insisted that the federal government is using a data-driven approach to procure supplies and direct them where they are most needed.

    In response to questions from The Times, a FEMA representative said the agency, working with the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense, has developed a system for identifying needed supplies from vendors and distributing them equitably.

    The representative said the agency factors in the populations of states and major metropolitan areas and the severity of the coronavirus outbreak in various locales. “High-transmission areas were prioritized, and allocations were based on population, not on quantities requested,” the representative said.

    But the agency has refused to provide any details about how these determinations are made or why it is choosing to seize some supply orders and not others. Administration officials also will not say what supplies are going to what states.

    Using the Defense Production Act, a Korean War-era law that allows the president to compel the production of vital equipment in a national emergency, Trump last month ordered General Motors to produce ventilators to address shortfalls at hospitals.

    The law also empowers federal agencies to place orders for critical materials and to see that those get priority over orders from private companies or state and local governments.

    Experts say judicious use of this authority could help bring order to the medical supply market by routing critical material — ventilators, masks and other protective gear — from suppliers to the federal government and then to areas of greatest need, such as New York.

    Yet there is little indication that federal officials are controlling the market, as hospitals, doctors and others report paying exorbitant prices or resorting to unorthodox maneuvers to get what they need.

    Hospital and health officials describe an opaque process in which federal officials sweep in without warning to expropriate supplies.

    Jose Camacho, who heads the Texas Assn. of Community Health Centers, said his group was trying to purchase a small order of just 20,000 masks when his supplier reported that the order had been taken.

    Camacho was flabbergasted. Several of his member clinics — which as primary care centers are supposed to alleviate pressure on overburdened hospitals — are struggling to stay open amid woeful shortages of protective equipment.

    “Everyone says you are supposed to be on your own,” Camacho said, noting Trump’s repeated admonition that states and local health systems cannot rely on Washington for supplies. “Then to have this happen, you just sit there wondering what else you can do. You can’t fight the federal government.”

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by kfm27917 (here)
    What did they know, exactly? US intel warned of 'cataclysmic' coronavirus pandemic in NOVEMBER 2019, report claims

    US military intelligence tried to raise the alarm about the coronavirus epidemic in China when it was still embryonic in November, inside sources claim - raising questions of what they knew and who ignored, or squashed the report.

    Not only had the coronavirus epidemic begun spiraling out of control in Wuhan by November 2019, but military analysts were already warning it "could be a cataclysmic event" for both China and the US, four sources familiar with the briefings told ABC on Wednesday. Analysts at the National Center for Medical Intelligence, a subsidiary of the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency, had been trying to alert Pentagon and Donald Trump administration officials of the looming catastrophe for months before the country finally took action, the sources claim.

    Based on detailed analysis of intercepted communications and satellite imagery, the NCMI reportedly projected that a virulent contagion already getting out of hand in Wuhan would soon be menacing not just China but US troops stationed nearby. Most intriguingly, the sources hint that analysts may have begun looking into the unfolding epidemic even earlier, given the timeline for when the material crossed President Trump's desk. By the time the agency's warnings made it into the President's Daily Brief in early January, they would have had to undergo "weeks of vetting and analysis."

    "The timeline of the intel side of this may be further back than we're discussing," one source told ABC, suggesting "preliminary reports from Wuhan" dated back even earlier than the NCMI report, which was widely released among the intelligence community before Thanksgiving and spawned several intel community bulletins that supposedly outlined Beijing's own responses to the growing epidemic. China knew the coronavirus had gotten out of control, the sources allege, but tried to keep it under wraps - a claim the Trump administration has echoed repeatedly in the months since then.

    The new revelations place the timeline for the virus' origins much closer to the controversial claims of Chinese foreign policy spokesman Lijian Zhao, who claimed last month (albeit without real evidence) that the US military had brought the virus to Wuhan when they sent a delegation to the Military World Games in mid-October.

    The Trump administration has been slammed for dragging its feet in response to the coronavirus epidemic, playing down the potential disruption the disease would cause even as it upended China's economy and forced millions into quarantine. While the president insisted "no one could have known" the virus would wreak such havoc in the US, there's no way the Trump administration could not have seen the information in the NCMI report, former deputy assistant defense secretary Mick Mulroy told ABC, claiming "it would be a significant alarm that would have been set off" and "literally every intelligence-collection agency" would have gotten involved in following up and responding to the threat.

    But Defense Secretary Mark Esper told the outlet he was unaware of the issue coming before the National Security Council in November or December. No official response was forthcoming from the administration until Trump closed the border to flights from China in late January - all the while insisting there was nothing to worry about (and, if insider stock sales by multiple senators were any indication, telling Congress something different). Worse, not only had multiple government agencies conducted several pandemic "war games" in the months leading up to the outbreak, but they had performed poorly, making many of the same missteps that they would faithfully repeat in real life.

    more at
    https://www.sott.net/article/432179-...-report-claims
    If you take that in conjunction with this article (copied below), compelling evidence starts to mount that someone, somewhere, has been working very quietly and diligently to ensure this epidemic took off big time in the US.

    If so (and I heavily lean to this myself), this scenario is still in play right now.

    ~~~
    Hospitals say Feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word

    7 April, 2020

    Although President Trump has directed states and hospitals to secure what supplies they can, the federal government is quietly seizing orders, leaving medical providers across the country in the dark about where the material is going and how they can get what they need to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.

    Hospital and clinic officials in seven states described the seizures in interviews over the past week. The Federal Emergency Management Agency is not publicly reporting the acquisitions, despite the outlay of millions of dollars of taxpayer money, nor has the administration detailed how it decides which supplies to seize and where to reroute them.

    Officials who’ve had materials seized also say they’ve received no guidance from the government about how or if they will get access to the supplies they ordered. That has stoked concerns about how public funds are being spent and whether the Trump administration is fairly distributing scarce medical supplies.

    “In order to have confidence in the distribution system, to know that it is being done in an equitable manner, you have to have transparency,” said Dr. John Hick, an emergency physician at Hennepin Healthcare in Minnesota who has helped develop national emergency preparedness standards through the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine.

    The medical leaders on the front lines of the fight to control the coronavirus and keep patients alive say they are grasping for explanations. “We can’t get any answers,” said a California hospital official who asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation from the White House.

    In Florida, a large medical system saw an order for thermometers taken away. And officials at a system in Massachusetts were unable to determine where its order of masks went.

    “Are they stockpiling this stuff? Are they distributing it? We don’t know,” one official said. “And are we going to ever get any of it back if we need supplies? It would be nice to know these things.”

    PeaceHealth, a 10-hospital system in Washington, Oregon and Alaska, had a shipment of testing supplies seized recently. “It’s incredibly frustrating,” said Richard DeCarlo, the system’s chief operating officer.

    “We had put wheels in motion with testing and protective equipment to allow us to secure and protect our staff and our patients,” he said. “When testing went off the table, we had to come up with a whole new plan.”

    Although PeaceHealth doesn’t have hospitals in the Seattle area, where the first domestic coronavirus outbreak occurred, the system has had a steady stream of potentially infected patients who require testing and care by doctors and nurse in full protective equipment.

    Trump and other White House officials, including his close advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner, have insisted that the federal government is using a data-driven approach to procure supplies and direct them where they are most needed.

    In response to questions from The Times, a FEMA representative said the agency, working with the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense, has developed a system for identifying needed supplies from vendors and distributing them equitably.

    The representative said the agency factors in the populations of states and major metropolitan areas and the severity of the coronavirus outbreak in various locales. “High-transmission areas were prioritized, and allocations were based on population, not on quantities requested,” the representative said.

    But the agency has refused to provide any details about how these determinations are made or why it is choosing to seize some supply orders and not others. Administration officials also will not say what supplies are going to what states.

    Using the Defense Production Act, a Korean War-era law that allows the president to compel the production of vital equipment in a national emergency, Trump last month ordered General Motors to produce ventilators to address shortfalls at hospitals.

    The law also empowers federal agencies to place orders for critical materials and to see that those get priority over orders from private companies or state and local governments.

    Experts say judicious use of this authority could help bring order to the medical supply market by routing critical material — ventilators, masks and other protective gear — from suppliers to the federal government and then to areas of greatest need, such as New York.

    Yet there is little indication that federal officials are controlling the market, as hospitals, doctors and others report paying exorbitant prices or resorting to unorthodox maneuvers to get what they need.

    Hospital and health officials describe an opaque process in which federal officials sweep in without warning to expropriate supplies.

    Jose Camacho, who heads the Texas Assn. of Community Health Centers, said his group was trying to purchase a small order of just 20,000 masks when his supplier reported that the order had been taken.

    Camacho was flabbergasted. Several of his member clinics — which as primary care centers are supposed to alleviate pressure on overburdened hospitals — are struggling to stay open amid woeful shortages of protective equipment.

    “Everyone says you are supposed to be on your own,” Camacho said, noting Trump’s repeated admonition that states and local health systems cannot rely on Washington for supplies. “Then to have this happen, you just sit there wondering what else you can do. You can’t fight the federal government.”
    I suspect this is the federal government’s response to the threat by many Democrat Governors, like Michelle Lujan [“Wuhan”] Grisham of New Mexico, to horde medical supplies. She has publicly stated that is part of her plan.

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    More evidence is emerging that this was totally overlooked in the US from an early date — deliberately or otherwise. (I strongly suspect the former.)
    Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: Sources

    8 April, 2020

    As far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting.

    Concerns about what is now known to be the novel coronavirus pandemic were detailed in a November intelligence report by the military's National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), according to two officials familiar with the document’s contents.
    The report was the result of analysis of wire and computer intercepts, coupled with satellite images.

    It raised alarms because an out-of-control disease would pose a serious threat to U.S. forces in Asia -- forces that depend on the NCMI’s work. And it paints a picture of an American government that could have ramped up mitigation and containment efforts far earlier to prepare for a crisis poised to come home.

    "Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," one of the sources said of the NCMI’s report. "It was then briefed multiple times to" the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s Joint Staff and the White House. Wednesday night, the Pentagon issued a statement denying the "product/assessment" existed.

    From that warning in November, the sources described repeated briefings through December for policy-makers and decision-makers across the federal government as well as the National Security Council at the White House. All of that culminated with a detailed explanation of the problem that appeared in the President’s Daily Brief of intelligence matters in early January, the sources said.

    For something to have appeared in the PDB, it would have had to go through weeks of vetting and analysis, according to people who have worked on presidential briefings in both Republican and Democratic administrations.

    "The timeline of the intel side of this may be further back than we’re discussing," the source said of preliminary reports from Wuhan. "But this was definitely being briefed beginning at the end of November as something the military needed to take a posture on."

    The NCMI report was made available widely to people authorized to access intelligence community alerts. Following the report’s release, other intelligence community bulletins began circulating through confidential channels across the government around Thanksgiving, the sources said. Those analyses said China’s leadership knew the epidemic was out of control even as it kept such crucial information from foreign governments and public health agencies.

    "It would be a significant alarm that would have been set off by this," former Deputy Assistant Defense Secretary Mick Mulroy, now an ABC News contributor, said of the NCMI report. "And it would have been something that would be followed up by literally every intelligence-collection agency."

    Mulroy, who previously served as a senior official at the CIA, said NCMI does serious work that senior government leaders do not ignore.

    "Medical intelligence takes into account all source information -- imagery intelligence, human intelligence, signals intelligence," Mulroy said. "Then there’s analysis by people who know those specific areas. So for something like this to have come out, it has been reviewed by experts in the field. They’re taking together what those pieces of information mean and then looking at the potential for an international health crisis."

    NCMI is a component of the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency. Together, the agencies’ core responsibilities are to ensure U.S. military forces have the information they need to carry out their missions -- both offensively and defensively. It is a critical priority for the Pentagon to keep American service members healthy on deployments.

    Asked about the November warning last Sunday on ABC’s "This Week," Defense Secretary Mark Esper told Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos, "I can't recall, George. But we have many people who watch this closely. We have the premier infectious disease research institute in America, within the United States Army. So, our people who work these issues directly watch this all the time."

    Pressing the secretary, Stephanopoulos asked, "So, you would have known if there was briefed to the National Security Council in December, wouldn't you?"
    Esper said, "Yes. I'm not aware of that."

    The Pentagon did not comment Tuesday, but on Wednesday evening following the publication of this report, the Defense Department provided a statement from Col. R. Shane Day, Director of the NCMI.

    "As a matter of practice the National Center for Medical Intelligence does not comment publicly on specific intelligence matters. However, in the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists," the statement said.

    The White House National Security Council and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment.

    Critics have charged the Trump administration with being flat-footed and late in its response to a pandemic that, after sweeping through Wuhan and then parts of Europe, has now killed more than 12,000 in the U.S.

    For his part, President Donald Trump has alternated between taking credit for early action and claiming that the coronavirus was a surprise to him and everyone else. He has repeatedly touted his Jan. 31 decision to restrict air travel with China, but at the same time, he spent weeks telling the public and top administration officials that there was nothing for Americans to fear.

    On Jan. 22, for instance, Trump made his first comments about the virus when asked in a CNBC interview, "Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?" The president responded, "No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine."

    As late as Feb. 19, Trump was offering positive reviews for the way China’s leaders had handled the coronavirus.

    "I'm confident that they're trying very hard," Trump told an interviewer from Fox 10 in Phoenix. "They're working it -- they built, they built a hospital in seven days, and now they're building another one. I think it's going to work out fine."

    It was not until March 13 when Trump declared a national emergency and mobilized the vast resources of the federal government to help public-health agencies deal with the crisis that was poised to crash on to the homeland.

    If it were true that America’s spy agencies were caught that off guard, one intelligence official told ABC News, "that would be a massive intel failure on the order of 9/11. But it wasn’t. They had the intelligence."

    ABC News contributor John Cohen, who used to oversee intelligence operations at the Department of Homeland Security, said even the best information would be of no use if officials do not act on it.

    "When responding to a public health crisis or any other serious security threat, it is critical that our leaders react quickly and take steps to address the threat identified in the intelligence reporting," said Cohen, the former acting undersecretary of DHS. "It’s not surprising to me that the intelligence community detected the outbreak; what is surprising and disappointing is that the White House ignored the clear warning signs, failed to follow established pandemic response protocols and were slow to put in place a government-wide effort to respond to this crisis."
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    Greetings

    WHAT IF... its a mole hill made to look like a mountain (the patsy to blame), then piggy backed on it... is the stock market (failure yet again) crash, dollar trashed (from over printing) and( hiding it all in a virus!) civil rights tested, " just what will the people accept...yea...verily... do to themselves... because we told them to"... WHAT IF HUMANITY IS BEING PLAYED LIKE A FIDDLE ?

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    This would seem to explain one of the main things CV-19 is meant to distract us from.
    Quote Posted by Joe (here)
    Quote Posted by kfm27917 (here)
    It is downing on me that there are very few news (internationally (1)) about any thing else but Covid !
    In previous similar operations of the Powers That Be, similar media tactics were used to cover up
    something that would be making a big stink about some important people.

    So what are we missing hearing about ?

    Does any body think it could be connected to the Eppstein affair ? US elections ??

    Any comments appreciated.

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    The pandemic reaction is cover for the global financial restructuring. i.e. greater than the great depression - I heard of the plan of the financial takedown last year, through an employee of a private equity firm - but the way it happened, and how quickly, was a complete surprise.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    This would seem to explain one of the main things CV-19 is meant to distract us from.
    Quote Posted by Joe (here)
    Quote Posted by kfm27917 (here)
    It is downing on me that there are very few news (internationally (1)) about any thing else but Covid !
    In previous similar operations of the Powers That Be, similar media tactics were used to cover up
    something that would be making a big stink about some important people.

    So what are we missing hearing about ?

    Does any body think it could be connected to the Eppstein affair ? US elections ??

    Any comments appreciated.

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    The pandemic reaction is cover for the global financial restructuring. i.e. greater than the great depression - I heard of the plan of the financial takedown last year, through an employee of a private equity firm - but the way it happened, and how quickly, was a complete surprise.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/-9uRyiYFcoU/

    I've seen people post this video a few times. This time I've decided to watch it. Considering how grand an introduction James gives him, I'm very surprised by how narrow mindedly stupid this guy actually is. He can't get his head out of the realm of debt based funny money. And at no point does he define the difference between the Republic of the United States of America and the USA Corporation. All he harps on about is what a dodgy looking situation it is for the funnymoney system.

    As far as I'm concerned the more funnymoney crashes right down and out for the count, the better. The ball to watch is what are the patriots doing to transfer out of that funnymoney system and leave the Republic sitting as pretty as possible. USA Corp' is irrelevant and should be dead and buried, with any luck, quite soon.

    The Republic is what matters.

    I've no doubt that the bankers had their own plan when this got going, but I have almost as little doubt that the crash is being taken out of their hands and turned into something else.

    Again, I'm surprised by how far back behind the curve this guy is looking on from. James gave him a huge big-up but he was just about a complete waste of half an hour. This converstion didn't get anywhere near the real issue. The closest it got was a bit of head shaking about "something very strange is happening".
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    Hi guys,
    I am a retired nurse in the uk, I was contacted by the nursing council a few weeks ago asking me to come back to the NHS to help with the covid 19 crisis.
    I agreed, re registered as a nurse and completed all covid 19 training etc.
    I was told that the NHS would be in touch to assign me to where I would be needed to look after patients with covid 19.

    Two weeks later I was contacted by the NHS covid 19 response team to say that I'm not needed at present, as they are not short of nurses.

    I find this strange, when we have been told of staff shortages and extreme pressure on the NHS.

    Stay safe and well

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    Quote Posted by Woody (here)
    Hi guys,
    I am a retired nurse in the uk, I was contacted by the nursing council a few weeks ago asking me to come back to the NHS to help with the covid 19 crisis.
    I agreed, re registered as a nurse and completed all covid 19 training etc.
    I was told that the NHS would be in touch to assign me to where I would be needed to look after patients with covid 19.

    Two weeks later I was contacted by the NHS covid 19 response team to say that I'm not needed at present, as they are not short of nurses.

    I find this strange, when we have been told of staff shortages and extreme pressure on the NHS.

    Stay safe and well

    Woody
    A nurse who is a relative here in inverness went through exactly the same process same result -- not required.
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    The number of cases does not include those tested negative -- or the total population. So the mortality rate does not seem to warrant the "cure" Lockdown

    UK Cumulative Totals
    65,077 cases
    7,978 deaths

    UK Daily Totals
    4,344 cases
    881 deaths

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    You may well be right, Norman. High finance is not my area of expertise--I may have been convinced by Corbett that his guest is high on the cutting edge.
    In any case, it doesn't appear that the "reset" is designed to help Main Street, and Wall Street appears to have it in for small businesses.
    Too much competition for the corporations, perhaps?

    On another note, I can't see that quoting mainstream statistics and reports from the likes of ABC News is going to help us sort through all the lies.
    The best advice I've heard from Dark Journalist, Joseph Farrell, C.A. Fitts and other credible sources is to ignore lamestream reports.
    I think we've all pretty much known this for a long time, haven't we?

    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    This would seem to explain one of the main things CV-19 is meant to distract us from.
    Quote Posted by Joe (here)
    Quote Posted by kfm27917 (here)
    It is downing on me that there are very few news (internationally (1)) about any thing else but Covid !
    In previous similar operations of the Powers That Be, similar media tactics were used to cover up
    something that would be making a big stink about some important people.

    So what are we missing hearing about ?

    Does any body think it could be connected to the Eppstein affair ? US elections ??

    Any comments appreciated.

    (1) Comments: I read websites in English, French, German and Spanish
    The pandemic reaction is cover for the global financial restructuring. i.e. greater than the great depression - I heard of the plan of the financial takedown last year, through an employee of a private equity firm - but the way it happened, and how quickly, was a complete surprise.
    I've seen people post this video a few times. This time I've decided to watch it. Considering how grand an introduction James gives him, I'm very surprised by how narrow mindedly stupid this guy actually is. He can't get his head out of the realm of debt based funny money. And at no point does he define the difference between the Republic of the United States of America and the USA Corporation. All he harps on about is what a dodgy looking situation it is for the funnymoney system.

    As far as I'm concerned the more funnymoney crashes right down and out for the count, the better. The ball to watch is what are the patriots doing to transfer out of that funnymoney system and leave the Republic sitting as pretty as possible. USA Corp' is irrelevant and should be dead and buried, with any luck, quite soon.

    The Republic is what matters.

    I've no doubt that the bankers had their own plan when this got going, but I have almost as little doubt that the crash is being taken out of their hands and turned into something else.

    Again, I'm surprised by how far back behind the curve this guy is looking on from. James gave him a huge big-up but he was just about a complete waste of half an hour. This converstion didn't get anywhere near the real issue. The closest it got was a bit of head shaking about "something very strange is happening".
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    If you take that in conjunction with this article (copied below), compelling evidence starts to mount that someone, somewhere, has been working very quietly and diligently to ensure this epidemic took off big time in the US.
    It may be.

    When we look at the earliest reports versus the lack of action, it is much like deciding what consists of "actionable intelligence"-- i. e., when is the threat real enough we have to do something.

    In this case, there is nothing much to compare it to, since I cannot recall many times of a good decision being made. I can recall many times of something bad or false happening. It is like the last time DHS prevented a terrorist act--unknown.

    The trouble is that since all varieties can only be found in the U. S., and that it has taken off like wildfire, is a statistical anomaly at the very least. It is hard to find a satisfactory explanation by any normal means. I can't think of any reason why it would crawl the rest of the globe first before showing up here to throw a party in a noticeably bigger way. It would make sense, if it was already here before it was said to be here.

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    I was watching WeatherNation this morning and it went to a pseudo drug commercial that was just a frozen screen that said NuNormal, like a drug name. It stayed there for several minutes, maybe 3, so I changed the station.

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    Think this link needs to be in this thread also. (Apology if it is  and I've missed it)

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1349743

    Summary @8:50 James Bullard, President and CEO Federal and Reserve Bank of St. Louis, is mirroring Bill Gates Ted talk statement calling for every person to be tested so they can get a certificate/badge that allows them to travel.

    The TED talk sentence from Gates was apparently removed but thankfully not before it was copied.

    Hear them both @8:50.


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    And at no point does he define the difference between the Republic of the United States of America and the USA Corporation.
    There isn't one? It has come up before, and it seems to me that we can find booksellers interested in promoting false claims about 1933 and 1871--the second of these being the year a government was made for Washington, D. C., which is not the federal government. A municipality is a corporation which can be bankrupted; the country is not.

    The original country was not a Republic, it installed a Republican form of government:

    It is a common error to assume that a republic is synonymous with a republican form of government.




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