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With the greatest respect I don't think I am. But maybe we're on totally different wavelengths. For me, the greatest power (and influence over us) in the world, IS the media, the mainstream media, social media, pop culture, advertising and all the rest. We're choked by it. Until it's removed, the sheep will continue to be sheep. Why do the evil powers-that-be continue to persist in the background? Because it has excellent gatekeepers.Posted by Constance (here)
Star Mariner,
I can see that you have put a lot of thought into this and I thank you for that.
However, you are still missing the point.
The media.
If you want to destroy the evil, you first have to take down its shields (the gatekeepers). Once you dismantle the walls of deception protecting it, it will then be exposed, it will then be visible, with nowhere to run or to hide. Am I the only that gets this? When people at last see their reality for what it is, and what has been done to them, then and only then can this evil be confronted and defeated. With the media gone (or radically changed), the game will be up. Arm a woke world with a billion hacksaws and those evil roots can at last be extirpated. Only then can a consciousness shift take place.
That's a terrible approach. What he's talking about is not confronting the problem, not fighting any battles, not trying to the wake people up but leaving them to fend for themselves. Those are our people, your people, my people. My family, my friends, my co-workers. Everyone. Don't they deserve to KNOW the truth? Or should I run away, leaving them to their paradigm to die in it?... We don’t need to give any energy, whatsoever, to resisting those running it. What you resist persists! We only need to withdraw ALL our energy from the old paradigm and focus on creating a new one - based on Nature.
I will continue to spread information, and hope it makes a difference. Or die in the attempt. But at least I tried.
No they wouldn't. This was done, in the 60's, and it failed. Miserably. It was comped, left right and centre. It didn't usher in the age of aquarius because the whole thing was engineered from the start, and set up to fail.We could simply turn our backs on it all and that includes all Government, Religion, Institutionalised media (MSM) etc. If we collectively worked towards the outcome of going back to nature, things could transform overnight.
I do see what he's saying, but there's almost nothing there that lays it out in practical, realistic terms. How would it be financed? How is it organized? Who organizes it? What are the logistics? How is any of it going to be achieved, and where? I mean, where do you go to create a utopia that's uninhabited and off the grid? You can't do it on any grids because: government, law, establishment. Which means unequivocal and unavoidable infiltration and surveillance and interference. And failure.
A brilliant, brave idea. But not the first, not even the fiftieth probably. Do people not remember Zeitgeist: Addendum? Science fiction, with no actual, workable solutions to get the ball rolling. Which is understandable. Ideas of the highest intent are always toppled by the tyranny of those who pull the levers of power. Always.
Like I said, the only chance we have is information. It's doing what we're doing right now - fighting the war with our fingertips on our keyboards. Sounds pathetic I know. But more people are awake and aware now than in say, 1995. Many, many times more people. And that's because of the internet. More people are conscious about tyranny now and are therefore armed to fight it. That is the only way, and the only true hope. If one wishes to set-up a second counter-culture revolution away from the rest of us I wish them all the best, but it will fail.
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
~ Jimi Hendrix
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Any paradigm that allows poisoning our earth ecology for the sake of corporate profit will be the cause of mankind's end. I KNOW that nature is a whole living organism. It has a will and when threatened, will respond. Right now an avalanche of masks are aimed at the biosphere. That will have stupendous unintended consequences. I would say that every ill is due to human ignorance and beliefs we are set apart from our environment and not in constant interface (for good and ill) with the choices we allow. We are still responsible for the evils resulting from where they lead.
Plastic, artificial buildings, poison and cut "health care" sedentary work and the slavery of consuming has not made a happy world. Better living through chemistry and manipulation of biology and only always responding with reaction to symptoms has been the downside to the "modern world".
So, I THINK that cutting through the delusion that any of our modern systems are not simultaneously failing is a great hope. Maybe we have been given an opportunity through a crisis that will make more people doubt what we have been "locked out of" needs to be restored. If we are to live IMO, our life style must be replaced with earth and nature based study and honor. IMO that is the truth no matter whether we act on it or ignore it.
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Please reread my exact phrasing and tell me what added up to any zombie guilting, shaming or blaming..... or if it was you doing the projecting and wanting to shame me for what you projected onto me?Posted by Constance (here)
Waves,Posted by waves (here)
The zombies are hopelessly entrained and totally submersed in Stockholm Syndrome right now and impervious to logic and reasoning. It appears to be a form of narcissism to me, people foundationally incapable of seeing anything any other way despite any continued dire backlash to themselves. Just as they all suddenly self identified in public instantly inflamed at the sight of anyone else not 'one of them' obeying, they will be easily violently inflamed towards anyone who dares denigrate and dethrone their slave owners.
That's a waiting usable army for the controllers and there's lots more of them than us and I dread it's going to be long time until we gain more control than the media controllers and outnumber the zombies.
The problem with saying things like this about people is that people literally cannot help themselves. If people cannot perceive things, it is through no fault of their own!....
....We need to put an end to all guilt, shame and blame because it serves no one.
Why did you ignore how carefully I made sure to qualify who I was calling zombies - who I qualified as the masses with Stockholm Syndrome - and as 'foundationally incapable' of seeing why they had Stockholm Syndrome?????
I could have written your whole list too, those are all the exact reasons to me too for their entrainment and for the fact that they are now hopelessly programmed and incapable of breaking their programming.
My point was that they are still zombies, and will continue to be hopeless zombies no matter how much they are demoralized and represent an additional monolithic barrier we're going to be faced with - their fierce defense of their enslavers who are the enemy to both the zombies and the awake.
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There is a collective reality but we each are responsible. IMO it won't take everyone to cut the crap. Many of us absolutely will be necessary. IMO a vision of the new world held by us "many who are aware", it will spread!
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