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    Default CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)



    LINK ONLY AVAILABLE FOR A FEW HOURS.

    Sorry folks for the short notice.
    BE QUICK, if you would like it !!

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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

    Is this worth DL'ing while its still available? Anyone watch it?
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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

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    Is this worth DL'ing while its still available? Anyone watch it?
    Jill and I just finished watching the entire 2 hours and would recommend it.

    For me it certainly confirmed many thoughts and ideas and connected a lot of dots.

    Together and collectively, we can raise the universal conscientiousness and make a better world on earth. It was mentioned that that we need to concentrate on getting our houses in order, our hearts pure and get ready for CE5. It was mentioned that not all are ready. I truly feel that NOW is the time.
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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

    I just tried to watch it and it said "No longer available".

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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

    I saw the first half. It was quite good. I liked that it recommended the CE5 protocols as a kind of subversive way to raise consciousness and thereby avoid the current onslaught of brainwashing.
    I imagine it could not be saved to the Avalon library due to copyright issues?
    Here's the website: https://ce5film.com/
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    Is this worth DL'ing while its still available? Anyone watch it?
    Jill and I just finished watching all 2 hours and would recommend it.
    Looks like I got this too late ... oh well. Thanks anyway
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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

    Oooh its back! wth?
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    Unfortunate that Greer is still trying to convince us that no ETs are dangerous, but on the whole, I think the meditation groups are positive.
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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

    Quote Posted by Icare (here)
    I just tried to watch it and it said "No longer available".
    How odd, I've just seen the recommendation, followed the link to youtube and there it is. I'm downloading it now as I type...

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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

    I just finished watching it on YouTube.

    Very good footage in this video. Dr. Steven Greer has caught my attention again
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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

    I did manage to snag it, and I see Bill did as well

    I watched 50% of it last night and the overall theme is good, aligns with most everything as I understand it, and Greer did a good job of outing the "alien war". I find that Greer can be a bit a bit dramatic and the doc tried over emphasize that which I actually thought was detracting, but I'm nit-picking.

    Will tune in for the other half tonight.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Unfortunate that Greer is still trying to convince us that no ETs are dangerous, but on the whole, I think the meditation groups are positive.
    There's no need for fear porn on this topic. That only fully feeds the fuel for the fake alien war. I respect his correcting the lack of balance in this area overall, even if he is doing it unintentionally.
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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

    Thank you Bill. Very interesting film but disagree with a simple point. Why bypassing security state? They not do this I think? Too controlling! Nothing dangerous or secretive about what Mr Steven Greer teach people. Other teachers too, their own way like Mr Bright Garlick. More gentle simpler teacher. And also anyone can do without teacher. Some silly comments I think but many good things in film. Also agree no ETs hostile. Only hostile idea about ETs. My alien friends show no hostility. Help me turn away from anger and get out of army and become loving person. Tell me no hostile ETs coming to Earth because all self destructing.

    Good film, good for people to see and tell others to see. Lots of people to learn contact will help us all. Lifetime of changin for every person who make contact, like my self.

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    Unfortunately, despite not trying fuel fear porn, Greer doesn't understand the depth of alien involvement already in place in this world. Neither do almost any of us. There is no basis for any real 'alien war' conceptually because they are so far ahead of us we couldn't even give them a scratch.

    Sorry, even though there may be 'good guy' ETs around, the bad ones are running such circles around us that it's not funny. If you want a glimpse of what's going on, investigate the skinwalker ranch in Utah, or Linda Mouton-Howe's research on the animal mutilation phenomenon, or if you want a real eye opener, read Truman Cash's research.

    Whoever Greer thinks he's communicating with, it could just as easily be a trick. And don't try to tell someone who's been an abductee (as well as probably a milab), like myself, that I'm being an alarmist. We are lab rats at the very least and likely it's worse than that.

    Of course, believe what you want to believe.

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    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    ... Whoever Greer thinks he's communicating with, it could just as easily be a trick. And don't try to tell someone who's been an abductee (as well as probably a milab), like myself, that I'm being an alarmist. We are lab rats at the very least and likely it's worse than that.

    Of course, believe what you want to believe.
    That could be true. Another possibility is that the CE5 Protocols contain an inherent selection bias (he's only requesting engagement with positively inclined beings), skewing the data sample of ETs he's had personal experience with.

    Having said that, Greer understands the scientific method deeply enough to realise this. I can't imagine he genuinely believes that, just because he's only experienced positive interactions with ETs, there are only positive ETs.

    I think he summed his position up well in the closing remarks of his PC interview. One way of hearing it is that the view he's communicating is a placating fiction designed to motivate the kind of social change he desires/thinks is responsible.

    I have to say, I agree with Bill's direct words in that interview that it's a "misdirect". We need the truth to know what we have to change.

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    Good vs bad aliens and old human idea embedded in our ancient history. Come from evolutionary fear, not truth.

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    The problem of “good and bad extraterrestrials”, old as humanity and its legends, is the whole paradigm of truth vs lie. Call it a paradigm 333.
    Truth is not an “opposite” of lie. Lie is rarely straight opposite of Reality.
    Myth is a lie with didactic and “grooming” intention concealed in it. That’s how all legends are work of fiction, the same way as history is written by victors, and survivors.
    Today, many ethnic and religious communities are trying to make leap ahead from the world of myths and legends far ahead, lucky they’re if they land on their feet somewhere in the vast field of Reality.
    It’s nearly impossible to make leap to ET communications for millions of people who have been programmed to believe in myths for thousands of years ..

    The leap ahead can be made purely from Reality grounds.

    We are still rediscovering and probing all various patches of human history in order to understand ourselves better.

    Talking to ETs is mostly of future ..could be our faraway future in Reality.


    In either case, we have to start from “knowables” and what kind of links each of us have to be able to access the same benevolent consciousness but the call has always come from within, from them.
    I’ve experienced some important contact and ET communication through out the years and I’m happy to see other people sharing the same enthusiasm and predicament.

    At the same time I realise how frail those communications are compared to the gravity of this human world, how squashed and tangled are many human minds.

    It’s an excellent movie and I will watch it couple times more 🙏🌟🙏



    Notice one thing, the duality world -and any conspiracy theory- are entirely predictable. It’s always about the balance of forces, “pluses and minuses”, eternal war between the good and the evil. In itself it is a myth that fails to explain the beginning and paradoxical course of accidental evolution of any civilisation, or an individual, except for an “experiment”.

    Conspiracy theory is bound to assign Covid 19 to a “Darth Vader” who decides to cleanse humanity of its “sins”, working through his emissaries in any form and manner. No need to get goose bumps
    The myth is eternal and will persist as long as human minds fail to recognize the grounds of Reality we are inhabiting here.

    The same reality is of course, a multidimensional Reality with more than meets the narrow eyes, the other realms and phenomena we don’t have yet names for really.

    We need to open our eyes to itself from where we stand now and move, act along and accordingly which is a work of consciousness.

    I hope it happens so, anyway


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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

    I saw the film and I was particularly interested in the second half of Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind - The CE-5 Protocols.
    I have some serious comments that I would like to address.

    Here are two questions:

    1. Is it irresponsible to use these protocols because they are weak in there foundation.

    2. Is there is the possibility of danger in “vectoring in" UFOs.

    The CE5 initiative is a combination of a scientific approach with the experiential aspect plugged in.

    The CE5 Initiative with its specific tools when applied are really at the mercy of what’s out there. What unknowns are going to manifest, etc. It has no clear definition, no direction and no purpose in its intent. It may have the aspirations of the team of what it thinks are the right intents, but it opens up to wide range of manifestations that are similar in principle too when dealing with paranormal events but now on a macro scale.

    Because the foundation doesn’t entertain within the equation natures inherent characteristics of being in balance it will create manifestations that are not what humans are expecting at close range.

    Their isn’t the understanding of how to balance this process. Nature knows nothing but balance. Humans may not be balanced when applying initiatives of this nature to vectoring in UFOs, which can create other manifestations that are ‘out of whack’.

    To understand a co-creative science and what makes it unique, we need to understand nature in a deeper and more comprehensive way. This is because what makes co-creative science different from all other science is that it involves working with nature in a conscious and direct manner. Let me explain. In contemporary science (the term used for the science that is practiced today and with which we are all familiar), the scientist attempts to discover how nature works through testing and observation. He then draws conclusions about how nature works based on what he has observed and understood. In co-creative science, the scientist acknowledges that there is an inherent intelligence within all of nature, builds a communication bridge that allows him to access that intelligence, and then asks nature directly to explain and provide experiential insight to him so that he may understand how something works. In co-creative science, nature becomes a fully operational, functioning, conscious partner with the scientist. Together they create a team, with each member of the team providing specific and different information that is needed for understanding and solving a defined problem.

    INVOLUTION / EVOLUTION BALANCE

    All consciousness (human and nature) on our planet seeks to reflect and flow perfectly and fully through form. It is a natural dynamic contained within all life. This brings me to something I call "involution/evolution balance"

    Because nature supplies all form like UFOs, ET space ships, ET civilizations in other stellar systems and because all form has combined with it consciousness, all matter has inherent in it two dynamics: an involution dynamic (the matter, means and action) that is supplied by nature and an evolution dynamic (the definition, direction and purpose) that is supplied by consciousness. These two dynamics work in partnership, and, when left undisturbed, this partnership functions in balance. That is, the involution and evolution dynamics are synchronized with one another, thus creating a state of balance.

    This foundation is necessary in order to go on to the next step, that is setting up of a definition, direction and purpose when encompassing within the intent for example, extraterrestrial intelligent constructs. In this scenario, for example, our intent may be to bring in a new level of awareness on to planet Earth.

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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

    I'm a bit disappointed to be true.

    The video samples of "proof" I took a good look and there were samples that I found particularly disingenuous.
    One thing that stood out for me was the two yellow lights above the water coming down from the clouds. I'm 99.99% certain those where flares. You see how they "burn out" at the end and drop down after a while.
    I'm thinking he is scamming people in those contact sessions. Contact isn't as easy as he makes it out to be and the participants wasn't in the league I would take at face value for their words on what they saw.

    It made me question all the content in the video as a whole which such dubious claim of real proof. It made me disbelieve the person as a whole, and his intents other than trying to make a living from it.
    There was CGI and others as he spoke of various "encounters". But actual proof was sparse other than anecdotes of stories and experiences.

    I do hope Steven Greer comes clean and says he used flares in that sample or I will throw everything he has done as a scam artist.

    I'm sorry this isn't what most want to hear but I can't stand by that claim that those flares isn't anything else but flares.

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    Quote Posted by Kamikaze (here)
    The video samples of "proof" I took a good look and there were samples that I found particularly disingenuous.
    Thanks for this. This has always annoyed me, the rampant misuse of the term 'proof'. When I see people deliberately do this it makes it hard to trust them.

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    I'm sorry this isn't what most want to hear but I can't stand by that claim that those flares isn't anything else but flares.
    All good. This is very healthy skepticism in my book. Also, now if you post what you believe to be UFO's (or whatever) I will tend to believe you more than the average person because I can see you have a more strict criteria for 'proof' and evidence.
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    Default Re: CE5: Contact Has Begun (new Steven Greer documentary)

    You may be right, in fact, I'm pretty sure you are. There is a measure of scam in Dr. Greer's work.
    But from my own personal experience, I can also testify that there is a measure of truth.
    I used to go out on the designated nights when the CE5 protocols were being practiced by various groups all over the world, and on two occasions, I had very clear sightings, and they were definitely the real thing.
    There is something undeniably real that happens when people join forces with a focused intention to make Contact.
    Dr. Greer is just an imperfect human being and a rather inept facilitator for that process.
    But if you look at it in terms of neither black nor white, you will have a much better chance of approaching the truth of the matter. imho
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    I'm a bit disappointed to be true.

    The video samples of "proof" I took a good look and there were samples that I found particularly disingenuous.
    One thing that stood out for me was the two yellow lights above the water coming down from the clouds. I'm 99.99% certain those where flares. You see how they "burn out" at the end and drop down after a while.
    I'm thinking he is scamming people in those contact sessions. Contact isn't as easy as he makes it out to be and the participants wasn't in the league I would take at face value for their words on what they saw.

    It made me question all the content in the video as a whole which such dubious claim of real proof. It made me disbelieve the person as a whole, and his intents other than trying to make a living from it.
    There was CGI and others as he spoke of various "encounters". But actual proof was sparse other than anecdotes of stories and experiences.

    I do hope Steven Greer comes clean and says he used flares in that sample or I will throw everything he has done as a scam artist.

    I'm sorry this isn't what most want to hear but I can't stand by that claim that those flares isn't anything else but flares.
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