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    Many in the psychedelic and entheogen community take substances such as Ayahuasca, Mushrooms and DMT and other substances and commune with spirits and entities.

    This is especially common in the world of Ayahuasca where it is quite common for Shamans to use entities such as Snake and Jaguar spirits to help them heal people.

    Master Li Hongzhi (founder of Falun Dafa) has this to say about Entities and entity attachment, it's an excerpt from Zhuan Falun:

    "So animals figure there is nothing wrong with giving the person what he wants, and they do just that. At first an animal wonít have the nerve to latch on. What it does instead is to give the person some energy as a test-run. So one day, unexpectedly, the person really does get energy like heíd hoped for and can even use it for healing. But that was just the opening act, so to speak. The animal will see that itís going over well and that the person is receptive, and decide to get on his body under the guise of providing more energy, more directly. It will see that this person wants to have his inner eye opened, and itís happy to give him everything. And so it affixes itself to his body.

    So the personís inner eye gets opened, just as he longed for, and whatís more, he gains the ability to project energy, along with other, lesser powers. Heís delighted by all of this and thinks that he has finally achieved what he has been practicing for. But the truth is, none of it has resulted from his efforts practicing. And nor has his inner eye actually been opened, even if it seems that he can see into peopleís bodies and discover what ails them. Rather, itís that the animal is manipulating his brain.

    What the animal does is to convey what it sees with its own eyes to the personís brain, which leads him to believe that his inner eye has opened. And heís sure to try to project energy. But what happens is that when he extends his hand to send out energy, the animal extends a paw out from behind his body; or perhaps, in some cases, itís a snake that has attached to the person, which sticks out its forked tongue from its little reptilian head toward the personís ailment or tumor, and licks at it. Many cases of entity attachment fall into this category, where itís something the person brings upon himself."



    and:

    "But I can tell you that the animal has its own agenda, and it wonít give you something for nothing. The way the universe works is that everything comes at a cost. Something is in it for the animal, as I just touched on, which is a chance to obtain the limited bit of essence that your body has. This can then be used to develop a human form; they seek to take the essence of peopleís bodies. But your body has just that limited bit of essence, and your spiritual progress is dependent upon it.

    If you let an animal take it away you might as well forget about practicing, for you wouldnít have what it takes; the material needed simply wouldnít be there. Progress just wouldnít be possible. Now, some people might dismiss this concern since theyíre not interested in spiritual practice to begin with and just have their sights set on money. But I think youíll want to reconsider it after I explain a few things. Hereís why.

    Your limbs might be lame after the animal leaves your body, even if it doesnít stay on you long. And that could be a lifelong condition, since it might have taken too much of your essence. Worse yet, if it leaves your body later than this, you could become a vegetable and be bedridden for the rest of your life, hanging by a thread. So even if you did get rich or famous, could you enjoy it? Itís a frightening prospect.

    What I described is a significant problem among people who do energy practices today, and there are many cases of this. Those entities not only attach to the body but kill off the personís soul; they burrow into the Niwan Palace and stay there. So while the person might seem to be human, he is not. Itís a telling reflection of the state of the world."


    from: https://www.falundafa.org/eng/eng/pd...-2018-v1.8.pdf


    Also a Falun Dafa practitioner who has awakened some of his supernatural abilities had this to say about drugs while also mentioning psychedelics:

    "In my realm of practice, it is shown that drugs do not originate in our human space. Its real roots are from the devil. It is the poison in the hands of the devil Satan. The color of the poison is light blue. It is similar to the blood composition of the devil Satan. Irritating and corrosive.

    Satan the devil has evolved poisons into different styles, and reflected in our ordinary people's space to form a variety of drugs we are familiar with. The devil sprinkles drugs into different spaces in the Three Realms, so not only is there drugs on the earth, but also galaxies in which aliens exist also have different forms of drugs.

    Through the hallucinogenic effects of drugs, aliens can move their souls into another space. And because the body structure of aliens is very different from that of the Earth, the impact and damage caused by drugs to their physical functions is much smaller than the damage caused by drugs to the Earth's human body."


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    Is this guy on drugs?

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    So animals have no soul, and only humans are the pinnacle of creation, and our creator who supposedly created all life simply sits back and enjoys watching it's pinnacle of creation succumb to soulless creatures.
    Do I have this right?

    Oh yeah, humans are infinitely beautiful creatures and never kill infinite numbers of animals for their purposes. They never allow animals to grow in endless numbers and then consume them without permission.
    Can't wait to be human.

    So to be safe, we should kill all life in the universe that has even the remotest chance of being dangerous to humans and just keep the ones we can eat.
    Can't wait to live in that beautiful universe.

    Further to stay safe, we must shutter all possibility of opening our minds and remain the infinitely ignorant and arrogant and murderous creatures, because after all, we are the pinnacle of creation.

    And then a mindless stray asteroid comes and..well...end of story.
    Or maybe our souls will survive and inhabit other innocent creatures who naively let us in because they tried to open their minds.

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    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)

    Also a Falun Dafa practitioner who has awakened some of his supernatural abilities had this to say about drugs while also mentioning psychedelics:



    https://www.zhengjian.org/node/243825

    The trouble with these kinds of articles is that they don't reflect the whole.

    The entire article brings up more questions than answers.

    These are some rhetorical questions, not designed to be answered here but more designed to be reflected and contemplated upon.

    Such as:

    Who or What is the devil?
    Is the soul eternal? Can it be vanquished?
    Is the universe about cause and effect?
    Is there such thing as freewill?
    Who and What are plants?
    Who and What are animals?
    Is the universe exact?
    Are there any errors within Nature?
    From which realm exactly was this practitioner sharing?
    What exactly is the true nature of consciousness?
    Are all foods medicine?
    What are aliens?

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    Psychedelics are the tools for a quick jump into the 4d (even beyond). The problem is that the 4d realm is affected by the same "virus" (AI/black goo) like here in 3d but for us, this experience can be very dramatic because we aren't getting used to feel in that extend and it can be very overwhelming or we don't know how to protect our selves properly. In 4d our senses work in full mode. The experience could also be very healing and powerful/profound...it depends on many things. If you ask me...it's not for everyone, it needs a lot of preparation and respect and be sure that anything can happen... as 3d life can be sometimes. For me, these experiences had it all...I gained and I'm still gain many things and at some levels, I'm still "fighting"...
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    Way back there were one or more authors, who describe things like attachments or alien tech or, unmanageable, emotional parasites, or whatnot... This thread contains such an article:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post430802


    Edit added a some minutes later...
    PS- From various other, differing sources, the root problem of powerfully drugging the brain puts oneself at the effect of external determinism, like this or not. We are at liberty to go off such deep ends or even reincarnate as many lives, each with as many drugings that we want, or be as effected as we choose.

    In that thread, include this search: "Eve Lorgen"
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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)

    Also a Falun Dafa practitioner who has awakened some of his supernatural abilities had this to say about drugs while also mentioning psychedelics:



    https://www.zhengjian.org/node/243825

    The trouble with these kinds of articles is that they don't reflect the whole.

    The entire article brings up more questions than answers.

    These are some rhetorical questions, not designed to be answered here but more designed to be reflected and contemplated upon.

    Such as:

    Who or What is the devil?
    Is the soul eternal? Can it be vanquished?
    Is the universe about cause and effect?
    Is there such thing as freewill?
    Who and What are plants?
    Who and What are animals?
    Is the universe exact?
    Are there any errors within Nature?
    From which realm exactly was this practitioner sharing?
    What exactly is the true nature of consciousness?
    Are all foods medicine?
    What are aliens?
    The article is also extremely bias if you know what I mean. one side/size does not fit all.
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    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)
    "So animals figure there is nothing wrong with giving the person what he wants, and they do just that. At first an animal wonít have the nerve to latch on. What it does instead is to give the person some energy as a test-run. So one day, unexpectedly, the person really does get energy like heíd hoped for and can even use it for healing. But that was just the opening act, so to speak. The animal will see that itís going over well and that the person is receptive, and decide to get on his body under the guise of providing more energy, more directly. It will see that this person wants to have his inner eye opened, and itís happy to give him everything. And so it affixes itself to his body.
    This religion isn't the only one to warn people against bypassing religion and seeking the truth individually. 'The metaphysical is not something to play with. But fortunately for you, we have the truth written down in this here book.'

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)
    "So animals figure there is nothing wrong with giving the person what he wants, and they do just that. At first an animal wonít have the nerve to latch on. What it does instead is to give the person some energy as a test-run. So one day, unexpectedly, the person really does get energy like heíd hoped for and can even use it for healing. But that was just the opening act, so to speak. The animal will see that itís going over well and that the person is receptive, and decide to get on his body under the guise of providing more energy, more directly. It will see that this person wants to have his inner eye opened, and itís happy to give him everything. And so it affixes itself to his body.
    This religion isn't the only one to warn people against bypassing religion and seeking the truth individually. 'The metaphysical is not something to play with. But fortunately for you, we have the truth written down in this here book.'
    There are other ways to access spiritual dimensions, not just drugs. Drugs are a very dangerous path.

    QiGong Masters train in the inner arts to slowly build up this spiritual energy. With psychedelics (to use a crude analogy) it's like trying to benchpress 500lbs without any previous Gym experience. It's accessing these worlds in a haphazard way that will have dire spiritual repercussions.

    Why are there shamans in the Amazon called Brujos that specifically deal with killing and inflicting harm?:

    https://www.singingtotheplants.com/2...ctive-spirits/

    Shamans say these realms are very real and have very real repercussions, both spiritual and otherwise:

    Cťsar Calvo says that drinking ayahuasca makes one into ďa crystal exposed to all the spirits, to the evil ones and the true ones that inhabit the air.Ē

    from: https://www.singingtotheplants.com/2...ctive-spirits/

    and:

    Among the Shuar, there is a general sentiment among the people that becoming a shaman ó acquiring tsentsak, magic darts ó creates an irresistible desire to do harm, that ďthe tsentsak make you do bad things.Ē

    from: https://www.singingtotheplants.com/2.../self-control/


    In regards to entity and encounters in psychedelic states, many encounter Cephalopod or Octopi like creatures that want to intrusively access the person, take a read of this, it's from a Falun Dafa practitioner:

    In recent years, some people with a devil's mind have been enthusiastic in cloning animals, or even human. They are the representatives of the corrupt beings in other dimensions. Teacher said when he gave a lecture in May 1999, "Gods will not place a Primordial Spirit inside a cloned being because it is created by human beings. Gods will certainly not recognize it. What will happen then? An extraterrestrial will break through at this weak point and place itself as the Primordial Spirit of that being."

    [unofficial translation of Lecture at the Fa-Conference in Canada (Toronto, May 23, 1999)]

    It is the same with the cloned animals. Their spirits are all extra-terrestrial beings. The famous sheep Dolly has a spirit of an octopus-like ET."

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    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)
    Teacher said when he gave a lecture in May 1999, "Gods will not place a Primordial Spirit inside a cloned being because it is created by human beings. Gods will certainly not recognize it. What will happen then? An extraterrestrial will break through at this weak point and place itself as the Primordial Spirit of that being."
    Teacher Who?

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)
    Teacher said when he gave a lecture in May 1999, "Gods will not place a Primordial Spirit inside a cloned being because it is created by human beings. Gods will certainly not recognize it. What will happen then? An extraterrestrial will break through at this weak point and place itself as the Primordial Spirit of that being."
    Teacher Who?
    Teacher Li Hongzhi, the founder of Falun Dafa:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Hongzhi

    The talk in question from the 1999 Toronto Fa-Conference ( Law-Conference) from which the quote was taken:

    https://falundafa.org/eng/eng/lectures/19990523L.html

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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)

    Also a Falun Dafa practitioner who has awakened some of his supernatural abilities had this to say about drugs while also mentioning psychedelics:



    https://www.zhengjian.org/node/243825

    The trouble with these kinds of articles is that they don't reflect the whole.

    The entire article brings up more questions than answers.

    These are some rhetorical questions, not designed to be answered here but more designed to be reflected and contemplated upon.

    Such as:

    Who or What is the devil?
    Is the soul eternal? Can it be vanquished?
    Is the universe about cause and effect?
    Is there such thing as freewill?
    Who and What are plants?
    Who and What are animals?
    Is the universe exact?
    Are there any errors within Nature?
    From which realm exactly was this practitioner sharing?
    What exactly is the true nature of consciousness?
    Are all foods medicine?
    What are aliens?
    I like questions :D

    Who or What is the devil? There's no evil, just ignorance.
    Is the soul eternal? Can it be vanquished? The soul is eternal as long as it takes us to realiza ultimate truth and it cannot die, since it's not alive.
    Is the universe about cause and effect?
    Is there such thing as freewill?
    Who and What are plants? Plants are living beings.
    Who and What are animals? Animals are living beings.
    Is the universe exact? No, infinite has no limits.
    Are there any errors within Nature? No errors in nature.
    From which realm exactly was this practitioner sharing? Human being 33 y.o currently alive.
    What exactly is the true nature of consciousness? Consciousness is the tool to truth, to realize who you are and where/who you come from.
    Are all foods medicine? Not all, but most organic veggies and fruits are.
    What are aliens? They can be beings from outside earth or from another realms, but same as you and me, just living beings tasked with a mission, same as all beings.

    ^ . ^

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    Quote Posted by EnergyGem (here)
    Many in the psychedelic and entheogen community take substances such as Ayahuasca, Mushrooms and DMT and other substances and commune with spirits and entities.

    This is especially common in the world of Ayahuasca where it is quite common for Shamans to use entities such as Snake and Jaguar spirits to help them heal people.

    Master Li Hongzhi (founder of Falun Dafa) has this to say about Entities and entity attachment, it's an excerpt from Zhuan Falun:

    "So animals figure there is nothing wrong with giving the person what he wants, and they do just that. At first an animal wonít have the nerve to latch on. What it does instead is to give the person some energy as a test-run. So one day, unexpectedly, the person really does get energy like heíd hoped for and can even use it for healing. But that was just the opening act, so to speak. The animal will see that itís going over well and that the person is receptive, and decide to get on his body under the guise of providing more energy, more directly. It will see that this person wants to have his inner eye opened, and itís happy to give him everything. And so it affixes itself to his body.

    So the personís inner eye gets opened, just as he longed for, and whatís more, he gains the ability to project energy, along with other, lesser powers. Heís delighted by all of this and thinks that he has finally achieved what he has been practicing for. But the truth is, none of it has resulted from his efforts practicing. And nor has his inner eye actually been opened, even if it seems that he can see into peopleís bodies and discover what ails them. Rather, itís that the animal is manipulating his brain.

    What the animal does is to convey what it sees with its own eyes to the personís brain, which leads him to believe that his inner eye has opened. And heís sure to try to project energy. But what happens is that when he extends his hand to send out energy, the animal extends a paw out from behind his body; or perhaps, in some cases, itís a snake that has attached to the person, which sticks out its forked tongue from its little reptilian head toward the personís ailment or tumor, and licks at it. Many cases of entity attachment fall into this category, where itís something the person brings upon himself."



    and:

    "But I can tell you that the animal has its own agenda, and it wonít give you something for nothing. The way the universe works is that everything comes at a cost. Something is in it for the animal, as I just touched on, which is a chance to obtain the limited bit of essence that your body has. This can then be used to develop a human form; they seek to take the essence of peopleís bodies. But your body has just that limited bit of essence, and your spiritual progress is dependent upon it.

    If you let an animal take it away you might as well forget about practicing, for you wouldnít have what it takes; the material needed simply wouldnít be there. Progress just wouldnít be possible. Now, some people might dismiss this concern since theyíre not interested in spiritual practice to begin with and just have their sights set on money. But I think youíll want to reconsider it after I explain a few things. Hereís why.

    Your limbs might be lame after the animal leaves your body, even if it doesnít stay on you long. And that could be a lifelong condition, since it might have taken too much of your essence. Worse yet, if it leaves your body later than this, you could become a vegetable and be bedridden for the rest of your life, hanging by a thread. So even if you did get rich or famous, could you enjoy it? Itís a frightening prospect.

    What I described is a significant problem among people who do energy practices today, and there are many cases of this. Those entities not only attach to the body but kill off the personís soul; they burrow into the Niwan Palace and stay there. So while the person might seem to be human, he is not. Itís a telling reflection of the state of the world."


    from: https://www.falundafa.org/eng/eng/pd...-2018-v1.8.pdf


    Also a Falun Dafa practitioner who has awakened some of his supernatural abilities had this to say about drugs while also mentioning psychedelics:

    "In my realm of practice, it is shown that drugs do not originate in our human space. Its real roots are from the devil. It is the poison in the hands of the devil Satan. The color of the poison is light blue. It is similar to the blood composition of the devil Satan. Irritating and corrosive.

    Satan the devil has evolved poisons into different styles, and reflected in our ordinary people's space to form a variety of drugs we are familiar with. The devil sprinkles drugs into different spaces in the Three Realms, so not only is there drugs on the earth, but also galaxies in which aliens exist also have different forms of drugs.

    Through the hallucinogenic effects of drugs, aliens can move their souls into another space. And because the body structure of aliens is very different from that of the Earth, the impact and damage caused by drugs to their physical functions is much smaller than the damage caused by drugs to the Earth's human body."


    from:

    https://www.zhengjian.org/node/243825
    I saw this Buddhist monk on TV who said about "drugs":

    "Meditation is like a key, you meditate you open the door (using the key), after that you go outside and lock the door (using the key); "drugs" are like meditation, but without a key, you open the door by slamming; after going out you cannot close the door"

    "Drugs" are tools; made in Earth, by mother nature, but not to be abused nor to be played with.

    I've done both, played and abused; but then I learned about then until a point where I do not need them to show me the way.

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    Quote Posted by HNP33 (here)

    I saw this Buddhist monk on TV who said about "drugs":

    "Meditation is like a key, you meditate you open the door (using the key), after that you go outside and lock the door (using the key); "drugs" are like meditation, but without a key, you open the door by slamming; after going out you cannot close the door"

    "Drugs" are tools; made in Earth, by mother nature, but not to be abused nor to be played with.

    I've done both, played and abused; but then I learned about then until a point where I do not need them to show me the way.
    Yes, the analogy of breaking and entering into spiritual realms is apt. The human body is actually multidimensional in nature and we are sealed up and not granted access to these realms (at least initially) for a reason.

    One has to put in the work in this dimension through arduous cultivation. There are many sages and enlightened seers with Buddha wisdom that have all these supernatural abilities like 3rd eye vision, clairvoyance and yes "healing" abilities but all these things are developed from within you as they are all innate abilities of humankind that have atrophied.

    Many people these days are finding Shamanism and the psychedelic path attractive because it's so easy to access the spiritual realms in this manner but the spiritual cosmos is so "vast" and when you take these substances your "firewall" is well and truly down and demonic beings are also in there.


    An excerpt from Master Li Hongzhi from one of his Buddha Law lecture:

    ďFrom another perspective, when you look at the surface of our human bodies with human eyes, the human form and the skin and flesh tissues are very fine and tight, but when you look at the human body with a large, high-magnification microscope, you find that a person's particles and his body that is made up of those particles are as coarse as sand, and there are lots of gaps.

    And if people had the technology to magnify things more, the gaps would be shockingly large. In the concept from a more microcosmic level, the gaps among particles are so large that they're just like the spatial distance between molecules and planets. With such a large distance, isn't it easy for beings and matter that are made up of even more microcosmic particles to pass through freely? So sometimes they burrow into a person's surface, and on the surface it looks like that person, and in the microcosm it's still that person, but another being has stuck itself in the middle.Ē




    What I'm basically trying to say is that we within ourselves have the ability to elevate our spiritual energy, unlock or innate abilities and traverse these realms once we have grown our spiritual bodies safely and we don't need the help of possibly dubious third parties to give us these things, these gems are in you lying dormant already, grow and energize them and don't let them be pillaged.

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