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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    Dr Rashid Buttar video on face masks has been taken down by u tube.
    He was a surgeon and pointed out that face masks are useless for preventing transfer of any virus-- like a fence would be to stop mosquitos the mesh too large.
    The reason surgeons wear them is the patient has a open surgery so its to stop saliva etc from falling into the open wound
    So to be clear he is stating that any government suggestion to wear a face mask has nothing to do with preventing the spread of a virus, it cant
    He also points out that the immune system needs exposure to "germs, viruses" to be strengthened.
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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    Quote Posted by Tam (here)
    Yes, absolutely, and you should, too.


    The principle behind normalizing the wearing of masks isn't to keep you from getting sick. It's to help minimize spread by limiting how many droplets of saliva you expel by simply speaking/breathing, droplets which, if infected, could very well transmit the virus to another person, and so on. Are masks fool-proof? Absolutely not. And nobody is saying they are, either. At least, nobody with basic sense. But they do help. And help isn't hurting anyone. Something is better than nothing.


    Look at countries where wearing masks during sickness has been a cultural, standard practice for decades. South Korea, Singapore, Japan. Look at how much lower their infection rates per capita are, despite how their population is several times denser than, say, the US or Canada. Normalized wearing of masks has no small role in lower transmission rates in these nations. It's not a matter of politics there, or of trusting the government. It's something you just do, without thinking twice, long before this virus was a thing. It's accepted as a viable way to minimize spread of sickness, as well as basic manners and consideration to those around you.


    I'm noticing this one little nugget of misinformation spreading like wildfire; the idea that wearing masks is meant to keep you, the wearer, safe from transmission. Not so. It is well known that the virus is so miniscule that unless you have N-95 or better, it's going to pass right through your homemade number.


    The principle behind wearing masks is simply to reduce the odds of an infection person spreading it to others, as less saliva droplets make their way out into the air for an unsuspecting passerby to come into contact with. That's it. Nothing more.


    That's what experts say, that's what they're advocating, and the only reason why it wasn't stressed from early on was to prevent mass hoarding of masks that would cause a shortage for those who need them (healthcare workers, etc).


    This mask/no mask debate is ridiculous. What do we have to lose by wearing masks? And please, spare us the angsty, melodramatic argument that it normalizes authoritarianism or some such nonsense. That argument holds as much water as God damned colander.


    Our great grandparents were drafted in a world war and forced to fight and endure horrible, traumatic evils to keep the world in something of a functional state.


    We're being asked to stay inside, entertain ourselves, and wear face masks. It shouldn't be this difficult.


    I find it ironic that many people who dismiss this pandemic as a hoax caution us not to buy into fearmongering sensationalism then turn around and spread half-baked fear-porn about how the "lockdown" is three steps away from an Orwellian regime that renders the ghettoes of the Holocaust cute in comparison.


    While there's certainly more than meets the eye to this pandemic, and while the PTB will surely not let this opportunity go to waste, it seems the ugly head of partisan politics has somehow snaked its way into what is arguably the least partisan issue out there: a f*cking global pandemic.


    Make no mistake, this virus is very real, it's far more virulent and violent than the flu, it takes no prisoners, and if you think the lockdown is bad now, just you wait and see how much worse it will get if people keep on dismissing the virus and carrying on as usual. Nature doesn't give a **** who you voted for, she will mercilessly wipe you off the face of the Earth if she has to.


    What do you think will happen when we reopen the economy too soon, and people go back to "normal" life and the infection rate skyrockets? When the healthcare system collapses and mass graves are the last resort that become standard?


    If there were ever something to usher in a Brave New Regime, it would be that.


    So, please.


    Untwist you panties, get those rusted critical thinking gears turning again, and wear a damn mask. It's not like they're used diapers.


    This is getting ridiculous.
    Could not have said it better myself.

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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    Hell no. It decreases your flow of oxygen, automatically making your body more stressed/more susceptible to getting sick. IMO if you wear a mask you’re sleep AF

    I will never ever ever wear a mask

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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    Why are they so keen to get you wear one?
    If you really believe they are trying to save anyones life think again.
    Drs who have given their reasons for not wearing one have had their videos deleted.
    Why?
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    I don't wear a mask. I did the research and add to that some common sense.

    My problem is when I go out and see those who have masks and you know that they need to be "woken up", but there isn't much you can do at that moment. (The best is when they have their mask on while they are in their car alone driving.) I wanted to create a paper flyer to take out with me and hand them out to people, but my spouse is worried and she is probably right.

    The police are looking for any reason to arrest someone with something to do with the pandemic. There must be some incentive, other than them having to meet quotas in order to keep their job.

    I just have to be careful when I go out - as much as I need to be aware of the virus, I have to keep my sarcastic mouth closed. But if the chance for a good conversation does present it myself, I will speak loud enough for others to hear.

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    I only wear it inside a bldg because they made it law in PA. But as soon as I walk out, I rip the damn thing off. I refuse to wear it anywhere else.... Personally, I know they don't give a damn about our health. If they did, they wouldn't impose the masks on us.

    Dr. Rashid Buttar has made it clear that doctors and nurses in surgery wear masks NOT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM CATCHING ANYTHING FROM THE PATIENT. They wear them to protect the patient from accidentally getting spit on them; and even protect them from anything the doctors may have.
    So, look at the many duped ppl running around outside thinking that they won't catch anything. I get it. They're scared.
    It's foolish to believe everything lamestream reports (if you can call it that). Maybe if ppl would just listen to real doctors and scientists who know what they're talking about, then they can calm down a bit more. Think clearer. Lamestream is all about exaggerating everything.

    And don't get me started on Fauci and Bill Gates.... murderous traitors....


    I watch the eyes of ppl who have to wear masks for 8 hours or more and they look so sick. Know why? They're being oxygen deprived! I knew from years ago that you can't breathe the same air all the time without it having a negative health effect on you. Even death...

    This is from WebMD:

    Quote When your body doesn't have enough oxygen, you could get hypoxemia or hypoxia. These are dangerous conditions. Without oxygen, your brain, liver, and other organs can be damaged just minutes after symptoms start.

    Hypoxemia (low oxygen in your blood) can cause hypoxia (low oxygen in your tissues) when your blood doesn't carry enough oxygen to your tissues to meet your body's needs. The word hypoxia is sometimes used to describe both problems.
    Symptoms

    Although they can vary from person to person, the most common hypoxia symptoms are:

    Changes in the color of your skin, ranging from blue to cherry red
    Confusion
    Cough
    Fast heart rate
    Rapid breathing
    Shortness of breath
    Slow heart rate
    Sweating
    Wheezing

    If you have symptoms of hypoxia, call 911.

    As I see it, ppl will die from lack of oxygen before they ever die of this virus... So, the question begging to get asked is this also part of the nasty depopulation agenda?

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    I didn't need validation, but when I discovered this pronouncement from the 'greatest authoritative' health body in the world (WHO) last week I was surprised to say the least that they had the guts to admit the truth.

    I posted it last week, but I think it bears posting again, and even made into a sticky here:

    "A medical mask is not required if exhibiting no symptoms, as there is no evidence that wearing a mask - of any type - protects non-sick persons. However, in some cultures, masks may be commonly worn. If masks are to be worn, it is critical to follow best practices on how to wear, remove and dispose of them and on hand hygiene after removal (see Advice on the use of masks)"

    Now if only the rest of the world would get the WHO memo.

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    MSM Wants You to Normalize Wearing Masks

    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/s...415146496?s=20








    https://twitter.com/sabreaxe/status/...349905926?s=20




    https://twitter.com/milove131/status...574734336?s=20

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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    I noticed that ppl are starting to turn masks into a fad. Geez! What's wrong with those ppl???

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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    Whats a fad?

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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    Whats a fad?
    Just something that suddenly becomes very cool and people all around want to do. It seems weird with the masks thing because if it is a "permanent" thing then it can't be a fad. A fad is mostly like "wearing this shirt through summer because it was a challenge or made popular by some artist or influencer" and then it goes away after a bit

    I don't think whoever is pushing this mask thing wants it to be a fad, it would go away after a couple months or such, instead of being a permanent control tool as it seems "they" want it to be
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    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    I noticed that ppl are starting to turn masks into a fad. Geez! What's wrong with those ppl???
    I was in local Supermarket this morning two staff wearing glass fronted face masks.
    I asked what they thought of the situation--They have totally bought into the media fear propaganda.
    I just kept my mouth shut.
    Im having a hard enough time convincing my family.
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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    No I dont wear a mask. Unless its an N95 it wont give you much protection. (the N95 will give you 95% protection for about 4 hours then you will need to change it)

    I hope i do get - C19 wont kill me and it will give me immunity. (just as we got immunity to measles, TB, etc)


    Points to remember
    It washes off easily - wash your hands for 20 seconds in soap & water or hand sanitizer
    Don't shake hands with other people
    It survives on porous surfaces for 3 days (72 hours) & non-porous for 6 days. Wipe down surfaces if you are worried.
    Other people wearing a mask wont protect you.

    If they have it it will be on their clothing and if not wearing an N95 mask will have gaps around the mouth and nose where they can be shedding from so stay 2 meters away from others
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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    Most are immune allready.
    The great majority only got minor infection.
    This is not about the virus its about taking away freedom.
    I know I go on like a dog at a bone but this needs to be signed.
    otherwise we are just talking about it.
    Anyway its a start.

    https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/


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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    Here I go again
    That appeal has at the top a section where you can change the text into various languages its not just for English speaking people.
    I sent it on to the Scottish First Lady Nicola Sturgeon -- perhaps others could send it on to Trump -- Boris -- whoever.
    Action is important.
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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    I do not understand the controversy.

    A mask, at best, reduces air flow to the lungs - that is its only effect. This reduction in air flow is the savings in terms of protection because you breath less air. In order to draw air through the mask you must breath heavier...but, the heavy breathing opens up spaces around the mask for the extra air - it does not go through the mask.

    The mask is only to reduce droplets of liquid that are constantly expelled with our breathing. That's it!

    The mask won't save you, but it might slow the rate of infection. Understand that the mask is to slow the number of patients needing medical assistance all at once. The time for masks is way,way over.

    Let's get on with life now. Let the sick get aid. Let the healthy go about thier business, whatever it might be.

    Remember: Most of us have already been exposed and nothing happened, we were asymptomatic, (ie. healthy).

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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    I do not understand the controversy.

    A mask, at best, reduces air flow to the lungs - that is its only effect. This reduction in air flow is the savings in terms of protection because you breath less air. In order to draw air through the mask you must breath heavier...but, the heavy breathing opens up spaces around the mask for the extra air - it does not go through the mask.

    The mask is only to reduce droplets of liquid that are constantly expelled with our breathing. That's it!

    The mask won't save you, but it might slow the rate of infection. Understand that the mask is to slow the number of patients needing medical assistance all at once. The time for masks is way,way over.

    Let's get on with life now. Let the sick get aid. Let the healthy go about thier business, whatever it might be.

    Remember: Most of us have already been exposed and nothing happened, we were asymptomatic, (ie. healthy).
    Its fear Ernie
    Your take I totally agree with.
    This is the first time ever that healthy people have been locked down with disastrous results -- the economy world wide is in melt down.
    People need to ask why the Draconian imposition.
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    I did wear a face mask last week. It was a Guy Fawkes mask and I wore it backward on my head. No one said a word.
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Most are immune allready.
    The great majority only got minor infection.
    This is not about the virus its about taking away freedom.
    I know I go on like a dog at a bone but this needs to be signed.
    otherwise we are just talking about it.
    Anyway its a start.

    https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/


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    The number of signatures can be seen here.
    Fast growing.
    22.415 to this moment.

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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    I did wear a face mask last week. It was a Guy Fawkes mask and I wore it backward on my head. No one said a word.
    That's hilarious!
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