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    Default Re: Do you wear a face mask?

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    I wear a mask. I interact fine with other people. My freedom is not infringed on by wearing a mask.

    Around here, about 75% of people out wear masks of some kind and that number seems to be growing. It has not stopped people from talking or paying each other compliments (or arguing for that matter). In fact, if anything the 6' rule and social distancing has reminded people of basics like holding the door for each other and the need for kindness.
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    We are in the middle of a pandemic. People. are. dying. Maybe they would've died later rather than sooner. Maybe the numbers are wrong. SO WHAT?! People are still dying from a contagious disease, and you covering your mouth is a small thing that you can do to help.
    We are in the middle of a pandemic each and every year rainsong!
    The pandemic I am talking about is the seasonal flu.
    It kills 350,000-650,000 people each year!
    Much more than Covid-19 has killed so far.

    Do you wear a face mask when you go out for the months that the flu lasts?
    I feel like you're trying to avoid the issue or guilt-trip or just argue for the sake of arguing. Nothing you have said changes the fact that covering your mouth is a small thing that you can do and it does save lives.

    Maybe we should have been doing this a long time ago wrt to the flu! Doesn't change what's happening now. Doesn't change that it helps NOW.

    To me, this is a non-issue, so I probably won't engage further. I just cannot get behind the attitude of not only refusing to wear a mask but also encouraging others to not do so. It is a very simple act of compassion that costs very little.

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    I wear a mask. I interact fine with other people. My freedom is not infringed on by wearing a mask.

    Around here, about 75% of people out wear masks of some kind and that number seems to be growing. It has not stopped people from talking or paying each other compliments (or arguing for that matter). In fact, if anything the 6' rule and social distancing has reminded people of basics like holding the door for each other and the need for kindness.
    Do you have 6' length arms?

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    We are in the middle of a pandemic. People. are. dying. Maybe they would've died later rather than sooner. Maybe the numbers are wrong. SO WHAT?! People are still dying from a contagious disease, and you covering your mouth is a small thing that you can do to help.
    We are in the middle of a pandemic each and every year rainsong!
    The pandemic I am talking about is the seasonal flu.
    It kills 350,000-650,000 people each year!
    Much more than Covid-19 has killed so far.

    Do you wear a face mask when you go out for the months that the flu lasts?
    I feel like you're trying to avoid the issue or guilt-trip or just argue for the sake of arguing. Nothing you have said changes the fact that covering your mouth is a small thing that you can do and it does save lives.

    Maybe we should have been doing this a long time ago wrt to the flu! Doesn't change what's happening now. Doesn't change that it helps NOW.

    To me, this is a non-issue, so I probably won't engage further. I just cannot get behind the attitude of not only refusing to wear a mask but also encouraging others to not do so. It is a very simple act of compassion that costs very little.
    Let me be clear, because it seems I have been misunderstood.

    If another person chooses to wear a face mask, all the power to them!
    They have the right to do so.

    They shouldn't try to lay a guilt trip on others who don't want to wear one.

    A big point I want to make and have been trying to make.
    The seasonal flu kills more people than this virus has.
    The seasonal flu is a deadly virus. It goes pandemic each year.

    Why haven't governments advised people to wear masks at the start of each flu season each year?
    Why don't you see people wearing masks, on their own, each flu season?

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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)

    Where are you getting your numbers and data from? Fox has the source info from WHO, CDC, ECDC, and NHC and they say total cases USA 823,257 and 44,805 have died which equates to 5.45% death rate! So what to you is a good source?
    Ratsz, officially the WHO and CDHC say that there have been 2.6 Million cases so far, with 184,000 deaths.

    The US CDC says that this flu season (2019-2020) in the U.S. alone, some 38 to 54 million people may catch the flu, and 23,000 to 59,000 may die from it.

    There is no reason to think that Covid-19 is less contagious than the flu. So tens of millions of Americans have likely been infected by it already.

    Quote The death toll from this, if we are to believe the numbers presented, has doubled in a week. I don't know where to check but I don't recall hearing about that happening with regular flu.
    The death toll hasn't doubled in a week. These were the total deaths today and last week:
    Apr 22 184 K
    Apr 15 138 K
    Numbers from the WHO and CDHC.

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    In the Czech republic, where the citizens decided for themselves to all wear masks, the Covid-19 R0 has been brought down to 0.8 for the last week. As best I know, and although it's early days yet, that's the first country where that's happened.
    When did the goal change from "flattening the curve" to "eradicating covid-19?" There are enough people with the virus that we're all going to get it unless we stay on lockdown the rest of our lives. I don't see what was gained by the Czechs having a low infection rate -- for now. They're all going to get it eventually.

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    In the Czech republic, where the citizens decided for themselves to all wear masks, the Covid-19 R0 has been brought down to 0.8 for the last week. As best I know, and although it's early days yet, that's the first country where that's happened.
    When did the goal change from "flattening the curve" to "eradicating covid-19?" There are enough people with the virus that we're all going to get it unless we stay on lockdown the rest of our lives. I don't see what was gained by the Czechs having a low infection rate -- for now. They're all going to get it eventually.

    … one question I have is how do you prove that they "all" them - who did the counting?

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    The trend of mandating masks, accompanied by the "morally superior" crowd hopping on the peer pressure bandwagon threatens me somehow. And when I think it out, it is because it feels like it could lead to further removal of our freedoms and rights as humans. Like DaveToo mentioned as to the flu, if it is decided that mask-wearing is necessary outside the home in this case, could it not lead to being necessary for every flu? And then colds in general? ALL infectious airborn diseases? Could masks become permanently mandated always? Would "fear of others" be instilled even further than it is already being insidiously drilled into us?
    And how about skin/touch transmitted infections? Already, hand-shaking and hugging are being discussed. Could these things become permanently banned? Would permanent isolation in compartments be even better?

    Personally, I would miss seeing smiles, and human facial expression if everyone went about forever looking like a bandido! I would miss handshakes and hugs, too.

    I have no problem wearing a mask in some situations, and I agree it can be an important and a considerate thing to do, in some situations. I have no trouble discussing it, either. But quite honestly, I can understand why the "you should" term automatically raises hackles.
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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    In the Czech republic, where the citizens decided for themselves to all wear masks, the Covid-19 R0 has been brought down to 0.8 for the last week. As best I know, and although it's early days yet, that's the first country where that's happened.
    When did the goal change from "flattening the curve" to "eradicating covid-19?" There are enough people with the virus that we're all going to get it unless we stay on lockdown the rest of our lives. I don't see what was gained by the Czechs having a low infection rate -- for now. They're all going to get it eventually.
    Yes I made the same point on another site today.

    For over a month governments worldwide have all been chanting the same chorus:
    "We must flatten the curve! We must flatten the curve!"

    Well guess what?
    We have flattened the curve in the vast majority of countries worldwide!
    Actually we have gone far better than flattening the curve.
    Almost perfect bell curves are forming with respect to cases/deaths worldwide.

    Now you don't hear them saying "We must flatten the curve!"
    Now you hear them saying, we won't win this battle until a vaccine comes along !!!

    Huh ??????

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    A followup to my last post.

    "New Mexico is likely to insist that people wear masks in public until broad immunity is established through a vaccine -- a solution unlikely to arrive this year."

    https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/la...072136979.html

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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    A followup to my last post.

    "New Mexico is likely to insist that people wear masks in public until broad immunity is established through a vaccine -- a solution unlikely to arrive this year."

    https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/la...072136979.html
    Oh yuk! The level of absurdity never ceases to amaze me. Yet Bizarro world continues...
    I am simply constantly gobsmacked these days.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Back to masks. In the Czech republic, where the citizens decided for themselves to all wear masks, the Covid-19 R0 has been brought down to 0.8 for the last week. As best I know, and although it's early days yet, that's the first country where that's happened.
    Wearing masks will be mandatory for everyone in Romania starting from 15 May 2020...

    As far as I know,those light blue surgical masks are used mostly for dust,pollen,humidity,some aerosols and so on.More reliable masks are coded ffp 2 (filtering more than 95%) and ffp 3 (filtering more than 98%),both with respiratory valve.So...
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    Coronavirus: Britons should wear cloth face coverings in public, health experts tell government

    Sky News David Mercer, news reporter,Sky News

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...153200220.html

    Its another attempt to train people into obedience in my opinion
    Experts disagree I think the success in Sweden is being ignored and under played.
    See this Professors view who is a real expert of International standing



    "That was one of the more extraordinary interviews we have done here at UnHerd.

    Professor Johan Giesecke, one of the world’s most senior epidemiologists, advisor to the Swedish Government (he hired Anders Tegnell who is currently directing Swedish strategy), the first Chief Scientist of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and an advisor to the director general of the WHO, lays out with typically Swedish bluntness why he thinks:2

    - UK policy on lockdown and other European countries are not evidence-based
    - The correct policy is to protect the old and the frail only
    - This will eventually lead to herd immunity as a “by-product”
    - The initial UK response, before the “180 degree U-turn”, was better
    - The Imperial College paper was “not very good” and he has never seen an unpublished paper have so much policy impact
    - The paper was very much too pessimistic
    - Any such models are a dubious basis for public policy anyway
    - The flattening of the curve is due to the most vulnerable dying first as much as the lockdown
    - The results will eventually be similar for all countries
    - Covid-19 is a “mild disease” and similar to the flu, and it was the novelty of the disease that scared people.
    - The actual fatality rate of Covid-19 is the region of 0.1%
    - At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available


    There is an "urgent need" for Britons to wear cloth face coverings in public places to fight the spread of coronavirus, a group of health experts has warned.

    In an open letter to the government, more than 20 public health specialists and academics said the measure would be one of the "simplest, cheapest and most positive" ways to protect people from COVID-19.

    It comes after Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer backed calls for the government to formally recommend people wear face masks on transport and in workplaces where social distancing is difficult.

    London mayor Sadiq Khan had previously said he wants the wearing of face masks on public transport in the capital to be made compulsory.

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson's spokesman said the government's scientific advisers are finalising their advice on face masks to give to ministers shortly.

    The open letter to the government has been signed by the likes of Andrew Phillips, professor of epidemiology at University College London, Martin McKee, professor of European public health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, and Paul Roderick, professor of public health at the University of Southampton.

    The experts warn there is "an urgent need to ensure the general population use cloth face coverings in public places", particularly in supermarkets and public transport, "as an additional tool to reduce community transmission" of the virus.

    They urge the government to recommend the use of cloth face coverings so that public demand does not "compete with the needs of health and care workers for protective equipment".

    "Wearing face coverings (regularly washed with hot soapy water) in public is likely to be one of the simplest, cheapest and most positive measures in protecting people from infection," the letter states.

    The experts say they recognise the effectiveness of wearing a face covering is a "contested issue", and that the World Health Organisation does not currently recommend wearing face masks outside of clinical settings in relation to COVID-19.

    But they add that several countries have "enforced or strongly recommended" the public wearing of face masks, including mainland China, Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan, the Czech Republic, Singapore and parts of Germany.

    Coronavirus is transmitted by large droplets "which can be prevented by social distancing and hand hygiene and by face covering", the letter says.

    Transmission is also possible from smaller droplets shed during normal speech which can remain in the air for several hours so wearing face coverings may reduce this risk, it adds.

    "Public face covering will be most effective at stopping spread of the virus when compliance is high," the experts say.

    "With appropriate guidance, the public will quickly learn how to properly use face coverings whilst maintaining other control measures."

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    Transport Secretary Grant Shapps told Sky News last week that wearing masks to avoid spreading COVID-19 might have some advantages.

    But he explained the policy was under review by the government's chief science advisers and cautioned that face coverings may even be "disadvantageous" if worn wrongly.
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    In the above Video the Swedish Professor points out that it is no worse that the seasonal Flu and gives full reason for that.
    We are being hit over the head by Save lives --protect the NHS -- false statistics -- who exactly do you want to believe?
    Look at where this is leading us by the nose -- covered or not.
    Did you wear a mask for the flu virus of last year?
    Did you survive it, even if you caught it?

    Wear a mask sound so correct, so logical - so does lockdown which will lead to mass unemployment and resulting suicides--more dying from that than saved by lockdown.
    I will not be wearing a mask unless forced to by law.
    I was born free, I have every intention of dying free.
    Death --whats that?
    Is the inevitable to be feared?
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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    A followup to my last post.

    "New Mexico is likely to insist that people wear masks in public until broad immunity is established through a vaccine -- a solution unlikely to arrive this year."

    https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/la...072136979.html
    I hope that New Mexico residents push back on that ...

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    It too, this spiritual virulence, wears a mask of deep deceit. It's obvious. Watch the deep connections between the media, entertainment, and the corporate whore-houses of governmental control.

    When the super-corrupt W.H.O. was called out for investigation for its part in the many crimes it has committed in contribution to just this one pandemic alone, albeit with a massive dark agenda in tow, there was a benefit concert held by the entertainment industry on all of the major t.v. stations in response. That is an undeniable proof of collusion, let alone blatant misdirection from the facts supporting the proof of criminal, corporate and governmental corruption. It was not only a pathetic play on emotions, it was very poorly recorded music mixed in with some really bad singing.

    This particular viral strain, that the CDC calls the SARS-Cov-2 "infection", and that Dr.Judy Mikovitz, a former colleague of Dr. Fauci, says has the added strength of HIV and MERS - under the likely scenario of it being developed at the Level 4 Lab in Wuhan (after illegally receiving it from the u.s. with a $3.7 million grant facilitated by Dr. Fauci), is a particularly virulent, if even short-lived, bio-weapon. It makes sense to bypass contact with it by wearing a mask when in very close gatherings, but the masks worn are unique in other ways....This is all about the incoming restrictions upon almost all human rights to connect with each other, with our own economies/our jobs and especially to live in the innate nature of the prosperity within our lives, far beyond the illusory indoctrinations of scarcity and survivalism.

    It also makes sense to be aware of its presence and the fear that surrounds it. It's existence, in total-from decades of governmental developments, all illegal, immoral, unethical and certainly inhumane (not of human origin) while consuming billions of dollars of taxpayer funds, is without purpose unless it contains the virulence of it's effect upon the psyche of the masses. It serves no other purpose for its existence than that of a tool of deception and repression of the innate spiritual power of humanity.

    Its history will be defined by the ingenuity of those who remove it from our lives in all of its expressed forms. It certainly is not simply an organism borne from nature, but can be associated in its origin from a fight between the brotherhood of the Jokers and the Batmen who write the narratives sunk deep into the psyche of a public, overcome by the distractions of a superficial abundance and the airborne electrical frequencies of the digital world.


    You all have been here before at the edge of discovering your combined power of intentional healing and transformation. You have failed before and the world has collapsed into almost no trace of your existence. Don't neglect the duty, the colorful and engaging, the ultimate satisfaction achieved in changing your environment, from the soul outward.

    Those very same masses will or will not give up their human rights to have those paper and plastic saviors, the god-like class of corporate enslaved scientists, governmental regulatory agencies and the emotional blankets called politicians and entertainers, save them in payment of their guilt contract for being so weak and distracted in their lives, instead of speaking up, giving up for others and doing all that is necessary to remove the power that those gods of fear and unnatural comforts have over them. Of all the masks we wear in our lives this one, now, has some meaning and worth when we know how deep the game is played and how to use the tools of research, imagination and ingenuity to counter it in a very positive way.

    It, this co-morbid strain defined by the covalence of shared electrons between vastly different, genetically modified pathogenic strains, to me and my senses, does have a sharp electric component. I do note that the 5g stressors could not cause the worst of these symptoms-even as they, like many other components, weaken the entire system on a cellular level.. In varying degrees they affect the VGCC, the voltage gate calcium channel, and contribute to the weakening of the electro-chemical exchange/the active bond, by blocking the ability of cells to transport oxygen in and export CO2 out, creating hypoxia. I've felt it, but not in a common way like I feel energy from within and from without. (It is accurate to call a cell phone cellular as they directly, always, affect the system on a cellular level-that fact I got when they first came out. I assumed that was the origin of the term "cellular")

    I do have the sense, as from the beginning, that this is more than it appears and of course, with much less reason to implement tracking individuals who keep their bluetooth active on their phones and certainly no reason to insist upon vaccinating all of the population. I've listened to both national press briefings and state press briefings to finally hear just what I heard today from both. The key phrase used by both is the initial and continued use of the indoctrinating term, "mandatory vaccines". This is the beginning of the end of personal freedoms and the supposed constitutional guarantees of the right to the sovereignty of our persons if we do not initiate our personal and collective imaginings and actions.

    I expected the connection from the federal government to this 3rd world state, called new mexico, which is neither New nor Mexican, overgrown with an amoral, scientific elite class and the ultra-racist hispanos, what with most government officials here ranked amongst the highest for their conquistador-borne history of governmental corruption and where most officials remain completely unaware of how out of touch they are to those who live here.

    In addition, the major national labs in the state have a presence that includes a much higher duty to service and then swallow the globalist jiz, thru los alamos, sandia and the spider web construct of its horrific inhumanities. Starting with ignorantly presuming that any large part of the extremely well-armed citizens here would ever take a vaccine, when many live here without a history of vaccine exposure, because of the existing protection of our rights to govern our own health and spiritual choices, our life paths, in this state. Yes my care of my own physical well being is, in its primal state, even in its constitutionally protected existence, a religious choice and a human right.

    I left California with my son in his infancy knowing that that state would turn into the vaccine-mandatory hell it has become. This state would do well to be reminded of its place in the history of constitutional mandates. Although the state would more accurately be referred to as the low rent home of the lab born parasites of the criminal elite, i.e. Richardson, Epstein and the Zorro pedophile ranch, and the home grown, arrogant hispano racists that challenge the colonial aspirations of any white/pink skinned scum in the states, it also contains a large enough and diverse population of fairly independent humans to easily counter any assault on physical and spiritual rights. As the mask of deceit is uncovered many here will openly refuse all of the above.

    It's the self-indulgence of the liberal idiocracy, it's refusal to look at the science within each context, and it's superficial adherence to progressively fascist idealism that the state's elected criminals count on, while simultaneously being blind to the depth of the vibrant humanity that lives here, unbound by either left or right wing ideologies.

    Wearing a mask amongst the pay-to-play thieves in La Tierra de Los Ladronas, The Land of The Thieves, is actually an homage to these many truths, now being unmasked and unbound by these most unnatural of conventions spawned by the corporate governance that this state's officials have willingly whored themselves out to.

    The scientists i know, they know this all too well. In fact I'd make a headstone in honor, no, in remembrance of all the regret filled scientists who sold themselves, their integrity, their scientific curiosities and their very worthy energies for the production of all the levels of evil they helped to create. "Don't rest in peace when you haven't earned it."

    The lawyers here too, as they are the ones who took down the posted signs we should see when entering the state saying "Did you bring your lawyer with you? If not, contact......." Now this was one of the few ads I appreciated the state considering as a public service announcement. Somebody in a mask must have removed them, after removing...after stealing the funding to make them.


    It too, this globalist project, all of this presented to us, wears a mask whose removal is a vital exercise in the discovery of our collective worth, our true purpose for being.....human, being here.

    Have some fun with it.

    Breathe deep the gathering gloom, holding that breath as long as possible to process it and unmask its illusions. Tuck the chin in to prevent dizziness and maximize the flow of oxygen thru the neck.

    Let go and remove the air from your lungs , energizing the truths within the longest hold you can take, contracting your inner organs close to the spinal channels, then release to gain your own true perspective. It lives within the autonomic nature of your being, not just your body.

    Share, wash your hands of the lies. Repeat.
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    Have moved this post which says nothing about face masks to this thread
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    In the supermarket this morning a man over 3 meters away from me said "Keep your distance"
    I said "From whom?" pollitly.
    He said gestured to the ladies in front of me at least 6 feet away.
    I said "Sorry I thought I was" and moved back several feet and so did everyone behind me.

    I have a diploma in Psychology and Neuro linguistic programming --NLP.
    It seems clear to me that both are being used on the UK public and probably elsewhere.
    Repition repition and this is coming from various sources -- all telling the same story -- un named experts on the whole.
    In a democracy we should hear all sides of a story but no we are being brain washed.

    It is divide and conquer.
    If a face mask law is brought in or even suggested, it will be so easy to see who are the obedient good guys and the bad guys.
    If I can be reminded of social distance when I thought i was keeping a safe distance you can be sure the "good guys" will be very quick to report those not wearing masks as a public menace.
    Keep an open mind and a may or may not be so attitude.
    Just a suggestion.
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    Here in OK it's hilarious so far! Women I see all the time in town are frequently seen now with their full mask attire and a can of Lysol while they shop and if you violate the social distance rule as far as they are concerned they simply spray you without saying a word! You just get zapped and I watched the one douse a couple others in the store that day going down the isle! What I find particularly offensive is when someone expects someone with their back turned to know they are too close! If you are the one that can see and you are too close then you are the one too close not the one not seeing you behind him! Some people are just focused too much on "I" thinking the entire world has to yield to them though!
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    We are so close...

    "Your planet is forbidden for an open visit - extremely aggressive social environment,despite almost perfect climatic conditions.Almost 4 billion violent deaths for the last 5000 years and about 15000 major military conflicts in the same period."

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    I am reminded that Boris our PM made a fool of Moslem ladies wearing face covering and now!!!!
    He has disappeared from public view.
    If I was a conspiracy theorist I would be wondering at his lengthy recovery -- leaving others to tell lies for a change.
    He was opposed to big brother helping those "less privileged"
    Who knows he might retire to be a married man with family, he did the impossible with the aid of NLP sound bites and got the Conservatives voted in again.Job done.
    Was he wearing a mask and actually not for a massive public disinformation campaign about the "virus"?
    Im afraid face macks almost inevitable if only by a willing public following "suggestions" for their own good of course.

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    The Burka comes with an implicit view that mans lust is a womens responsibility, and cascading in with that comes segregation between men and women. I would wear a mask to fit in, but I'd personally draw the line at segregation between men and women

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