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    I do not.

    Apparently it breaks down into political parties in the US:

    https://www.chron.com/coronavirus/ar...l-15212437.php

    It was a beautiful day today, 70 degrees, nice breeze. So waiting in line to get into the store was not so bad. About half the people had masks on. A maskless lady had left her barking dog in her car with the windows well-cracked, so no danger to the dog. A masked man questioned why she didn't leave the dog home and eventually she allowed herself to be bullied into leaving the car running with the a/c on. That behaviour seems to line up with the political divide mentioned in the article above. Republicans are calling the pandemic the dempanic...

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    Default Re: The face mask discussion

    Sounds like another attempt at division to me. I don’t consider myself either party. I live outside Detroit, where COVID #’s, fake or not, are high. There are apparently real people dying, as far as I can tell, although not as many as the stats would have us believe. I am 77, and care for my husband who has significant health issues and is 10 years older than I am. I think it is overhyped for sure. What do you think, do I wear one or not?

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    I do not, and I tell people not to bother.

    The surgical masks are designed to keep you from "speaking moistly" on people. They are designed to keep the user from spitting out germ laden particles onto others. The blue inner material is different from the white outer material for this purpose. The proper usage is to put one on, conduct your immediate business where you want to keep your "moistness" from getting onto the subject, then immediately discarded.

    Healthcare workers and sick people should be the only ones wearing them - to prevent the spread of their germs (Healthcare workers are also of greatest risk of having infection but not knowing it - they need the masks for this purpose as well)

    The issues with wearing them are these: You get a false sense of security - viruses can just as easily get into your eyes -- so if you are going to wear a mask, might as well wear a blindfold too, else you aren't really doing much.

    Wearing a mask all day just collects spit and germs that you are constantly breathing through - this is gross and not hygienic - they are intended for shorter term use.

    Wearing a mask makes your face sweat and itch -- this greatly increases your chances of touching your face to adjust it and scratch the itches, and if you also wear gloves, I bet you don't wash your gloves all the time --- they're just collecting dirt and germs that you will touch your face with - gross and unhelpful.

    So no, I do not and will not wear masks for logical reasoning of understanding what they do and don't do. My take is they are generally unhelpful and may increase your risk.


    I'm not sure who these "scientists" are that say you should be wearing them (as per the linked article) ... almost all healthcare experts and doctors in Canada are recommending against wearing them.
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    Default Re: The face mask discussion

    I know that this has been posted elsewhere but this is such an excellent presentation by Dr. Zach Bush, it warrants being cross - posted here.

    Zach says it all better than I ever could.


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    Default Re: The face mask discussion

    No. This is just my choice - I do not pretend to speak for everyone and I say let people do what makes them feel comfortable. Unfortunately, the mask serves as a bit of an energetic "muzzle", so be aware of that effect. Also, many people wearing masks are feeling a great deal of fear, which is absolutely contagious!! People without masks tend to be vibrating at a slightly higher frequency, in general.

    I can often "see" this virus circulating in the auric field of people in public. It's blue with sort of sparkly bits. Not many people are actually carrying it here in Oregon.If your immune system is strong it does not really attach. My partner had it for two weeks - dry cough, conjunctivitis, fatigue. However, the virus never really "took hold". I was aware several times of the virus entering my nasal passage and throat. My intuitive sense is that it needs to attach to something else in the body's physical field. This could be residual virus bits from vaccinations, or cellular disturbances due to the infamous "co-morbidities", it's not clear. Good thoughts to all - may you experience good health and joy.

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    No I do not wear one.
    I never will.
    Yes thanks Constance. In that video the doctor says that most masks are made with plastics that release tiny particles into your lungs when you breathe.
    Those particles can be potentially more harmful than the virus.

    Those who wear or advocate the use of masks by others, think about this.

    So far there have allegedly been 176,000 deaths due to Covid-19.
    Each year there are between 350,000-650,000 deaths worldwide due to the seasonal flu.

    Both diseases are worldwide pandemics.
    Yet for some strange reason the seasonal flu is largely ignored, while the sexy Covid-19 gets all the paranoid PTB-controlled press.

    You are just as likely to become infected by the seasonal flu as you are by Covid-19.

    That being the case, I ask those who wear masks now, do you wear one when you go outside during the flu season or do you see others (50% of the population) in your area wearing masks as a protective measure at that time?

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    Default Re: The face mask discussion

    Sure don't, but I don't go around non-friends either way (and rarely above 10 people total) so I guess I've pretty much always been social distancing.

    also, I don't buy into fear porn.
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    I do not wear mask, except when I have to (because of work I do, some companies won't let you inside without a mask). Since start of all this, I've put it on 3 times, and always feel like an idiot for doing so, like this little piece of fabric/plastic/paper can protect you from "super deadly worst of all" virus

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    Default Re: The face mask discussion

    No.

    When I see a mask wearing shopper, I look away in the same way I don't look cops in the eyes.

    I haven't analysed why I do it. I just know it's the same response.
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    Up until the official mandate, I didn’t wear a mask. This morning I wrapped a scarf around my head and face because it’s required while grocery shopping. Next time I’ll use a make-shift mask from a bandana.

    I received word that a cousin died last Friday of the Coronavirus. She was in her early 70's and in ill health. She lived in Boston, Massachusetts.

    New York, Maryland, Connecticut, and some cities such as Los Angeles, California and Northampton, Massachusetts, Miami, Florida, and Chickasha, Oklahoma are ordering residents to wear masks in places such as grocery stores and pharmacies. (see others below)

    DIY No Sew Face Mask Easy and Quick for Anyone (1:38 minutes)



    Where are you required to wear a face mask?
    More and more states, cities and towns making it a rule.
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    “There is no nationwide mandate, although President Donald Trump two weeks ago announced the recommendation by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention  that people at least use a simple cloth face covering when they are in public spaces such as grocery stores and transit stations. “

    A sampling of some locales already requiring a face mask:

    • Laredo, Texas: The West Texas city issued an emergency mandate last month for anyone over five to wear “some form of covering over their nose and mouth” while in taxis, public transportation or inside a public building. Violators could face a fine up to $1,000.

    • Beverly Hills: Locals are under orders to cover their face when outdoors, even just for a walk. “While we continue to ask our community members to remain at home, those who do go outside and the people they encounter will be safer,” Beverly Hills Mayor Lester Friedman said in a statement.

    • Miami: Face coverings are required for people going into restaurants, grocery stores, pharmacies and other retail stores. Miami Mayor Francis Suarez said police will enforce the measure but will help educate people before issuing fines, according to The Sun Sentinel. Similar rules are in effect in Broward, Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties.

    • Chickasha, Oklahoma: People within the city limits are required to wear a cloth face mask when making a public outing for essential activities, according to KFOR.

    • Riverside County, California: Residents must wear face coverings in public or face a $1.000 fine.

    • Northampton, Massachusetts: A new city rule takng effect Wednesday requires all consumers and employees to wear face coverings at all times at any businesses providing essential services within the city when social distancing cannot be maintained.
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    Default Re: The face mask discussion

    Whereever you're getting fined for not wearing one and can't avoid it,
    write something on it, like "state-imposed muzzle", or "plandemic gag order", or whatever...
    your creativity is limitless and cannot be taken away.

    PS: I might as well leave my motorcycle helmet on for shopping, to mitigate the CO2 re-intake...
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    Quote Posted by meeradas (here)
    PS: I might as well leave my motorcycle helmet on for shopping, to mitigate the CO2 re-intake...
    I need a full biohazard suit that looks like a space suit. That would make the sanctimonious mask-wearers feel inferior :-)

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Quote Posted by meeradas (here)
    PS: I might as well leave my motorcycle helmet on for shopping, to mitigate the CO2 re-intake...
    I need a full biohazard suit that looks like a space suit. That would make the sanctimonious mask-wearers feel inferior :-)
    I have been thinking about doing this for a few weeks now!
    I would too.
    But the problem is that I don't have one and if I tried to order one it would take months to arrive!
    The look on strangers' faces would be worth the price of admission alone!

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    Quote Posted by meeradas (here)
    PS: I might as well leave my motorcycle helmet on for shopping, to mitigate the CO2 re-intake..
    Some other creative chaps. It’s the first 2:30 minutes of the vid. My favorite is the scuba diver.



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    Default Re: The face mask discussion

    Since I don't have a hazmat suit, I thought of a good alternative.
    I have a halloween mask that I will take with me to the store the next time I go shopping for groceries.
    I also have a loop I made of 'Don't Stand So Close To Me' that I will play.
    Of course I'll be shooting all of this on my phone.

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    I choose not to and can't see that changing any time soon.

    I trust my immune system and the natural processes of Mother Nature far more than I'd ever trust the agenda of the parasites.

    If coerced by my government and all the turkeys in my community who keep on voting for Christmas, then I'd probably opt for a sack a la Joseph Merrick look. Then I'd get a honking great big marker pen and graffiti it up as meeradas suggested, well played Sir!

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Quote Posted by meeradas (here)
    PS: I might as well leave my motorcycle helmet on for shopping, to mitigate the CO2 re-intake...
    I need a full biohazard suit that looks like a space suit. That would make the sanctimonious mask-wearers feel inferior :-)
    I saw a guy put on a full head to toe auto paint booth suit and mask before going into the produce store the other day ...



    I'm all for taking a few precautions but things are getting ridiculous in regards to the fear -- people are just saturated in it. Went to get gas today ... the pumps are 25 feet apart, and they had blocked off every second one because I guess 25 feet is too close? ... why not just close the shop?
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    Default Re: The face mask discussion

    Speaking about masks...

    Here's one that's bound to happen in the future, especially litigious U.S.

    The government eventually lifts the quaranatine measures saying it is now safe to go out and resume business.
    Young man in his 20's contracts Covid-19 a few weeks later and dies in hospital. Family sues the government for $50 million for claiming it was safe to resume business.

    And of course the government defense would be (now that Covid-19 scare is over and big numbers are now not needed) well yes, he was Covid-19 positive, but he died from other complications not from Covid-19.
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    Default Re: The face mask discussion

    Nope.
    I have a smoker's cough occasionally and I coughed at Home Depot the other day. Man you shoulda seen the looks I got from a couple of people.
    I couldn't help but laugh to myself.
    Paranoia strikes deep. LOL

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    Default Re: The face mask discussion

    I wear one when I go to the store because I want to be polite

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