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    Default Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)



    Can anyone translate what is being said in the above video please ?

    The story seems to be that something was brought down.



    Also the following image is being shared of a sphere on the ground.

    https://imgur.com/S50tRHB

    Also posted by an anon was the following.

    anonymous post:

    "Im actually resident near Magé, in a town named Duque de Caxias, and I work in Magé, close to the imbel factory.
    My friends from work are telling me that something happened without any doubts, and even the most skeptical are findng the sudden military presence strange.
    See, this Imbel factory is a military zone but its basically a relic from the dictatorship era so there wasnt real military personell in large scale there for decades now.
    Then these lights are seem, a huge explosion is heard, helicopters are all over the place, trucks, soldiers and martial law circling the factory area.
    Could be alien or a very secretive army aircraft project test, but since this is Brasil and our military does not have this kind of technology, Im doubting the latter."
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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    the auto translate function proves nearly useless.....

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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    Well, if my rusty Portuguese still good, in the main video the reporter is saying that the place is a army factory, they produce armor/weapon in the place and there was an explosion, also a few workers were coming out from that blue gate in the video and she asked them if it was something felt from the sky (because the locals were saying that something round shaped felt from sky) and 1 worker just agreed with that, other workers didn't say anything but their face wasn't normal, seems like they were scared about something. Also the reporter says the military took over the place and locked down the entire area.

    Remarks: The reporter doesn't seem very sure about what she was saying because most of the information was coming from the locals that were there before she arrived, she was mostly just repeating what the locals were saying.

    For me the sounds is like someone was freaking out with their guns and shooting something.
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    the auto translation thinks it is spanish or something, due to the "huge" amount of slangs being said by the Brazilians, youtube has no clue what was that haahahha
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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    That image humm, seems like a bowl of steel planted there, I do not buy this picture, no way.
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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    "IT IS NOT A THING OF OUR WORLD", AFFIRMS SOLDIER IN RELATION TO UFO MAGÉ

    https://odivergente.blog.br/nao-e-co...o-ao-ufo-mage/


    Pale horse, can you listen to the below video and get the gist of what is being said, especially towards the end in the garbled communications ?

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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    A bit of UK msm coverage.

    UFO sighting: Thousands witness 'UFO crash' in Brazil amid Google Maps 'cover-up'

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird...rom%20%251%24s

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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    @Did You See Them - at 6 min of the this video, there is this group of ufologist that arrived at the local and they gathering lots of information, he said that was 4 helicopters following and chasing the lights and the object (at 6 min. he says object and 6:35 another witnesses said it was the lights) in the sky, and the object crashed at the Magé site, the supposed object that crashed is shown a little before in the video, it seems like a steel bow.
    From 6:38 to 7:10 - he said "helicopters was chasing the ref light and suddenly the light went down into the forest, and it made a huge noisy, and the helicopters still looking over the area for a while over the woods, Marcelo lives here in Pau Grande (location name) surrounded by ... video cut "

    from 7:13 towards the end it says: " Libra 4 confirm the station that the American object was shot down, confirm it was shot down, please go ahead, we need 3 or 4 teams, it is a lot of things, you will have access via Estradinha (narrow road) copy that? ... ###bad sound### ... I repeat, there is more, copy that Libra 2, I do not want to put my hands on that fu** Libra 2, stop shouting and using indecent language BR are listening, .... capture the equipment, copy that? ..... the Colonel is going down via Estradinha (narrow road) copy that? ... positive Libra 4, copy. we are going to the factory and then we look what to do, need to remove it under camouflage copy. it seems broken, all bended ... ###bad sound### ... it not wearing cloches take it as it is, have to remove, have sure it is closed, can not show anything, understand? copy... collect all phones, does not allow anyone to make records copy? .. the folks from Alcantara will be responsible for the removal of the object, copy that? Operate with the protocol of Aguias (Eagles) .. end "

    Sorry about the translation, it was the best I could do, the audio is very bad, too noise. First impression I had it was amateur radio talking to each other due to the language (informal / slangs) used, but towards the end after Libra 4 warned Libra 2 that they were being copied by others (BR listening), they quickly change their communication being more formal.

    Remarks: In the video they say Alcântara, it is a city located in Maranhão State in North of Brazil, the Air Force Base and Brazilian Space Agency.
    Hope this helps a bit.
    Last edited by palehorse; 16th May 2020 at 18:55. Reason: Magé not IMBE
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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    Thank you very much Palehorse.
    Something has definitely happened there - but what exactly ?
    Sounds like whatever it is, removing it is going to be a problem now that the word is out.

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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZBJ...VGkH-BVWGPKz0g

    In this video, the title says that they filmed the crash but I haven´t seen it.

    Not Long ago, United States of America did a deal with Brazillian Government to use the Alcantara base in the North of Brazil.

    https://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidian...anha-memes.htm

    Above there is a link from a mainstream Brazilian News website, please use Google Translator and set it from portuguese to english.

    Airforce denied the crash.

    In another video posted in the beggining of this thread a girl was filming in front of the place where the UFO possibly crashed and she said that asked the first person who exited the premise and the person said that something crashed, two other person exited the same premise and said nothing has happened.

    https://ufo.com.br/noticias/assista-...da-spacex.html

    Above is the link of Revista UFO ( Brazillian UFO Magazine) on the Magé-RJ UFO incident.

    The orginal link to REVISTA UFO is www.UFO.com.br

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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

    I have just watched this video from the Editor of Revista UFO, the Brazilian UFO Magazine, his name is Ademar Jose Gevaerd, he did this streaming to talk about the Magé UFO incident.

    Magé is a city located 60 km far from International Airport in Rio de Janeiro City.

    Mr. Ademar Jose Gevaerd, Editor of Brazilian UFO Magazine said that nothing has happended in Magé. He just said that he has got a 400 team composed of engineers, astronomers, physicists and he dispatched his team to investigate and he claims that nothing happened there.

    But he was streaming a live video and one person on the chat said to check the video of another Youtube Channel. I have checked the video and on it a guy was giving the latitude and longitude of the crash and showing on Google Earth.

    The coordinates are: 22o 34´59.8"S 43o 11´ 55.9"W

    Here is the video, never mind that his channel is called David´s Flat Earth, you need to ignore this information, watch his video and check for yourself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O00gXhm8Fs

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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    I forgot to say that Mr. Ademar Jose Gevaerd, the Editor of Brazilian UFO Magazine said that the last Ufo incident in Brazil was located in Varginha, which is a city located in the State of Minas Gerais on the Southeast Region of Brazil. I have already seen a thread here about the Varginha Incident.

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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    Lets see how quickly this is coveted up and an alternative cover story is implemented. The area will be cornered off, the object removed, witnesses first hand silented, the area swept clean and sanitised.

    The media will be silented. No doubt the US and others including the CIA will try to get there hands on it. I also will say USSOUTHERN COMMAND will be heavily involved in this.

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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    I translated the audio above from one video, and for me it seems like amateur radio, not military, as I said in the above post the way they were speaking to each other in a very informal way, bad language, does not seem like military talk at all.
    On this sort of thing Google is last tool I would trust, specially related to UFO, researchers can not rely on Google Earth (as far as I know they don't) in order to do their job, there is lots of companies that provide real time access to satellites for a fee, Google is out of question here, when I see videos relying on Google Earth I just pass it, not for me, it is not serious stuff, just propaganda/click bait.
    In order to know if something fell down in that area, tools like EOS (https://eos.com/lv/) offers, would be a most for analysis.
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    Quote Posted by Did You See Them (here)
    Thank you very much Palehorse.
    Something has definitely happened there - but what exactly ?
    Sounds like whatever it is, removing it is going to be a problem now that the word is out.
    I would say it is a real UFO if I get access to a live satellite photos from the crash site (if there is one), otherwise there is no real evidence, and people making photos of steel bowl stuck in the sand is not convincing me.
    Since this imagery satellite services cost are very prohibitive for most people, then we still in the dark as usual. Also this imagery system it works for the location you choose in your plan when subscribed for a service, you won't have live access to other areas. As far as I know only the military and satellites owners are having full access to earth and of course companies that are willing to pay a very high fee to have full access. I am pretty sure, the incident being true or not, they will not share any imagines with us.
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    https://www.vice.com/amp/en_uk/artic...d-conspiracies


    The mysterious lights were seen by thousands of people, there's video evidence, and people are saying posts disappeared from social media. What happened?

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    Quote Posted by prc (here)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

    I have just watched this video from the Editor of Revista UFO, the Brazilian UFO Magazine, his name is Ademar Jose Gevaerd, he did this streaming to talk about the Magé UFO incident.

    Magé is a city located 60 km far from International Airport in Rio de Janeiro City.

    Mr. Ademar Jose Gevaerd, Editor of Brazilian UFO Magazine said that nothing has happended in Magé. He just said that he has got a 400 team composed of engineers, astronomers, physicists and he dispatched his team to investigate and he claims that nothing happened there.

    But he was streaming a live video and one person on the chat said to check the video of another Youtube Channel. I have checked the video and on it a guy was giving the latitude and longitude of the crash and showing on Google Earth.

    The coordinates are: 22o 34´59.8"S 43o 11´ 55.9"W

    Here is the video, never mind that his channel is called David´s Flat Earth, you need to ignore this information, watch his video and check for yourself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O00gXhm8Fs
    Google earth or Maps is not a tool you can use to show what's happening in real time, or days/weeks/months ago. The images on that site are like years old sometimes. So using it to say "see they are not showing what happened yesterday is not a valid situation"

    Even if Google would fly a plane to retake pictures of that location, or send a few cars to stree map the place again, it would take weeks or more before the new images show up on the site, after some people go through them to ensure there's nothing weird going on that could cause a lawsuite or similar

    So nope, using Google earth or Google maps is a no go for evidence of things that happened this/previous week

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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    I have tried to follow this pretty closely. I don't speak a word of Portuguese but I have a friend who does, so we've kind of made a thing to try and find as much information about this as possible. I've talked to a couple of locals online as well and all of them are pretty convinced that something out of the ordinary is going on.

    There are a couple posts on Reddit that have tried to make sense of much of the information. Most of the info posted comes from Twitter, Facebook or things shared in Whatsapp and Telegram groups. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of coordination on a research effort yet. I’ll try and list some of the bullet points. I will link to Twitter and Facebook feeds and hope that will work.

    SUMMARY:
    • Around 1am local time on the night of the 13th may, people are wakened by aircraft/helicopter noise over their town. Some take video of an unknown reddish object being circled/chased by 4 helicopters
    • The object goes down near a military ammunitions factory, aka IMBEL
    • The next morning, loud bangs and noises are heard and smoke is seen in the vicinity
    • From that moment on, military helicopters are seen flying into and out of the area. This continued for days and might still be ongoing

    Location
    • Mountains behind the IMBEL factory near Mage: https://www.google.nl/maps/@-22.5768...7i16384!8i8192
    • This may be unrelated but worth mentioning: IMBEL celebrated its 212th anniversary on May 12th 2020 (Source: https://www.imbel.gov.br/index.php/noticias-imbel/311). The skeptic in me would say that this would be a good time to showcase some new weapon or tech or whatever, which could maybe explain some of the things people were seeing and hearing. On the other hand, the few people I’ve talked to have told me there were no celebrations, helicopters, explosions or gunshots in other years.

    UFO and crash
    This twitter account assembled some of different lights in the sky. hese 4 below seem to be showing the same thing. (There are more than just these 4 videos, but they look to be from other events and just add to the confusion)This video shows flashes of light on the other side of the mountain, supposedly from the object going down:Couple days later, people found a ‘hole’ in the canopy of the jungle and damages trees

    Explosions
    The next morning explosions are heard and recorded multiple times. Again, with a ammunitions factory nearby my first assumption would be that this is a normal thing. Residents seem to agree that this is not the case though.
    Helicopters:
    Military helicopters and Caro planes have been spotted over the area a lot since then. I assumed this would be normale with a military ammunitions factory nearby, but one resident answered me this when I asked her if this is a normal thing: “It’s very rare that helicopters fly over this area. First time I see”
    Investigations
    In this video there are 3 different reports of investigations on the scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6zjFtTaNAc
    • - 5-10 min: witness account of Marcelo: This witness tells the investigators he saw one reddish object with 2 helicopters circling/chasing it. Later 2 more helicopters showed up. Compare this to the 4 videos above that were taken on the night.
    • - 14-22 minutes: The group visits IMBEL and gets to ask a spokeswoman a few questions about what happened. She denies everything and says there’s nothing out of the ordinary going on. Compare this to the many videos of military helicopters coming in and going out, coupled with the testimony that this is not a regular thing for this town. Afterwards the researcher talked about her body language and how she looked nervous.
    • - 27-28 minutes: He asks a woman if the explosion sounds that are coming from the factory/mountain is normal, she says no that this is not ordinary.

    Obvious fakes / Other events
    One thing a few people have mentioned to me is how much they love memes and stirring up confusion in Brazil. If you go on Twitter and search for posts using hashtags #MageUFO #MageOVNI this becomes clear. You have to sift through a lot of bull**** just to get to some real reports. These are some of the fakes that have been making the rounds and are more widespread than others:

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    Default Re: Magé, Brazil, 13 May 2020 (hoax, or not?)

    Thanks Deneon.
    A great summary of events so far.
    If something has come down which is looking highly likely, it seems they are going to be hard pressed recovering it without witnesses.
    Can I ask if there are any credible reports you have come across as to the presence of bodies or E.T's or do those reports also fall into the category of disinformation surrounding this event ?

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    A historical perspective!

    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    It's [Redacted].

    Brazil’s Forgotten UFO Files

    Published 17th May 2020

    0:00 Magé, Brazil rumored UFO crash and intro
    0:41 São Sebastião craft landing and entry case
    4:15 Barra da Tijuca flying saucer photographs
    6:01 Spheres with antennae seen multiple places
    7:18 Two-meter tall beings described in 1967 entry
    7:58 Three humanoids standing near landed craft, Air Force file
    8:24 Operation Prato/Operation Plate

    Rumors are circulating online of a UFO crash near Magė, Brazil, but we have no concrete evidence of anything. That doesn’t mean the country is lacking in detailed, documented UFO cases though.

    rarely-seen declassified documents disclose significant encounters in the country, including encounters with humanoids by educated observers, photo evidence of a flying disc deemed "legitimate" by the Brazilian Air Force, sightings of spheres that mirror those seen as recently as 2014 California, and the famous "Operation Plate."

    While the origin of the sightings isn't determined, it does tell us two things: Brazil is a hot spot for UFO activity, and the country's military takes the phenomenon very seriously.

    1956, Sao Sebastiao coast; professor enters disc for 40 minutes before leaving: https://documents.theblackvault.com/...NVELOPE_04.pdf

    Barra da Tijuca case with photos (in thumbnail): https://documents.theblackvault.com/...NVELOPE_01.pdf

    USAF/Condon analysis of Barra da Tijuca (Case 48): https://archive.org/details/DTIC_AD0...p/search/barra

    SIOANI, UAP study project in Brazil in 1970s: https://documents.theblackvault.com/...TIM_SIOANI.pdf

    Landing of craft with 2 meter tall beings: https://documents.theblackvault.com/...PE_02_1971.pdf

    Operation Prato: https://documents.theblackvault.com/...PE_10_1978.pdf

    *All documents originally obtained from the Brazilian Government by researcher A.J. Gevaerd and archived by John Greenewald at The Black Vault.

    I for one will join in with anyone, I don't care what color you are as long as you want to change this miserable condition that exists on this Earth - Malcolm X / Tsar Of The Star

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