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    A German friend told me that the German people have recently discovered that their constitution is null and void because a peace treaty was not signed after the second world war.

    Apparently people are protesting in their thousands on the street. The first line of the constitution which is allegedly no longer legal is about the paramount importance of human dignity. My friend said that people are holding copies of the constitution in their hands and demanding that this human dignity be recognised as a right, and some have had the papers ripped from their hands by police.

    Much of the activity seems to be in Bavaria.

    Some people are panicking because their passports and other state privileges may no longer be internationally recognised, i.e. they may be stateless.

    Here is a video of a protester being asked by a journalist, "are you on the political left or right?" and responding that he does not think in those terms and is simply wanting to speak from his heart to the journalist's heart.


    I find it interesting that this brings up questions about what it means to belong to a State or not, and the fact that countries are simply human agreements rather than natural law.

    Does anyone know more about this situation?

    Thanks in advance

    (PS Please be kind and feel free to let me know if it's usual to start threads in a different way. This is my first time posting and I'm not sure of etiquette.)

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    Default Re: Germany's constitution void? Protests for human dignity misrepresented as anti-lockdown?

    JUDGE ANNA VON REITZ

    5-12-20
    For England - 1.0

    I have a great many people from England and Commonwealth reaching out to us here every day. They realize that something is terribly wrong, that they are being fleeced senseless and deprived of rights and freedoms.
    Even though we are being plagued by the same evil --- what I call "Corporate Feudalism" -- it has its own unique flavor and genesis in every country, so it becomes necessary for us to deconstruct each history and the path that led to this common evil.
    England became a de facto German possession in 1840 when Queen Victoria married Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and the House of Wettin has ruled it ever since. This comes as a great shock to many in Britain. It has gone on so long that young people literally cannot remember anyone who lived during a time when this circumstance was discussed at the dinner table, but sixty years ago, people still talked about it.
    In the German communities here in America it was a cause of special consternation -- here were these fake "English" kings and queens, actually Germans who owed their allegiance to the Kaiser and then also to Nazi Germany, sitting on the British throne, destroying both countries, and getting away with it?
    Treason on one hand, and insanity on the other.
    Victoria’s son inherited the Title to England but privately ruled as a German prince. This “tradition” has carried on through two World Wars that have decimated Germany—- because the House of Wettin wanted it that way.
    This brings us to one of their predictable modes of operation: pretend to be someone else, so that they get blamed for all the evil you do. Pretend to be British when you are actually German, then attack the Germans and blame them for what you are doing to them.
    Both England and Germany, to say nothing of the rest of the world, have suffered because of this “two handed game” of the House playing against itself. They had hoped to get the same kind of game going here, by pitting the Municipal Government against the Territorial Government— until we pointed out that both are ultimately controlled by the Pope.
    Wettin has been draining England dry for about the same time that America has been drained dry using the same enslavement scheme. This seems to have been most recently revived by Talmudic Jews and certain Scottish Templars led by Benjamin Disraeli in Britain and Abraham Lincoln in America.
    Today the High Priestess is the Queen’s Cousin, Lady Somerset, and the HQ in the British Isles is Glamis Castle, in Scotland.
    In order for the people to be truly free --- (1) the entire Babylonian Slave System of enfranchisement and impersonation has to be broken; (2) the gigantic probate fraud has to be broken, and (3) the death cult religion giving rise to all this has to be eradicated.
    It is a very tall order, a true spiritual war in which witches and sorcerers who engage in Black Magic and blood sacrifices, don robes and hoods and stage candlelit parades around effigies of Dead Babies at Olympic events.
    For those in England, this gives a clearer view of your own more recent history and the difficulties of what we are engaged in.
    As has been proven by the landmark court case, "JAH vs. Regina", the present Queen served a total of three days as a Christian Monarch, before abdicating that position and occupying The Chair of the Estates, the "throne" of the Probate Court, and proceeded to have everyone in England, Ireland, Scotland, and Wales declared legally dead, in order to control and prey upon the estates of the victims of this con game.
    The lawful people are declared "legally" dead and the further claim is made that they died intestate, without a Will, and as “wards of the state” and Commonwealth, so that the priests can come in under the guise of probate executors acting for the government as the presumed beneficiary--- and administer the assets of the “abandoned” estates (you are considered an asset and chattel property of your own estate).
    This same thing has been done around the world.
    Awareness is Job One and finding ways to fully inform the people and the members of Parliament about this now largely hidden and forgotten “enemy within the royal house” and the impact this has had and continues to have on England, Europe, and the rest of the world is difficult to over stress.
    The idea that a foreign (German) principality and a foreign religion have controlled the British Isles for 180 years sounds preposterous the first time you hear it and it is anti-intuitive to think that a German principality would undermine Germany in two World Wars—- until you understand that what we are dealing with is an international parasite -- more like a tapeworm than a virus, and a parasite has no true home, no political allegiance.
    They siphoned everything they could from Germany and England even as they prepared their new nest in America. They began the same process more recently as they prepared to sack America in turn and move to China.
    It was only the discovery that they siphoned trillions of dollars owed to the Americans and more trillions owed to the Chinese that has made it hot for them. They owe the Americans the entire American National Credit, and they owe the Chinese the entire “US-China Trade Deficit”.
    That’s not even counting all that “the US”—which is not to be confused with “America” --- owes everyone else.
    As we speak, “the US” is trying hard to get a war going between America (one of their victims) and China (another victim), because they could make money on that, and get two of their major creditors to destroy themselves. How convenient.
    Bear in mind that these persons have no true home or allegiance to anything but Mammon, their “god” which they make with their own hands — little idols made out of various materials and called by different names— “US Dollars” and “British Pounds” and “Euros”.
    This foreign system sucks the life and value out of its hosts and then moves on to greener pastures— consistently. The entire secret to their wealth is identity theft, credit fraud, never paying their debts and killing off their creditors.
    Down through recorded history their pattern is always the same, so look at it closely:
    Their entire historical modus operandi is to: (1) lie about everything, (2) pretend to be someone or something other than they are in order to offload the blame for their actions (note the substitution of “the US” for America, and how people are always blaming “the Americans” for things “the US” did), (3) seize title to property that doesn't belong to them, (4) use the purloined assets of others as collateral backing their own debts, (5) impersonate the victims, and (6) when they have exhausted all the purloined credit ---that was never based on their assets to begin with--- sell off the Creditor’s assets to Third Parties (Note their attempts to sell American property “as if” it were theirs to sell) then , (7) kill the Creditors or better still, get two cheated Creditors to kill each other, and (8) move on to a new host country. Start again. Repeat.
    It isn’t until people look for it that they see it, and only at that point can something effective be done about it.
    As a starting point, when the vampires come to your door, don’t invite them in.
    So there is a start, though not an easy answer and not something that provides much comfort ----at first.
    Before we despair in the face of the vast criminality set before us and run screaming into the bushes, let’s think a bit.
    What, exactly, was the true nature of Queen Victoria’s Office? Did she actually have any standing or hereditary right to "take title" to private land in England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales?


    http://www.paulstramer.net/2020/05/for-england-10.html


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    Default Re: Germany's constitution void? Protests for human dignity misrepresented as anti-lockdown?

    I was reading this dissertation from 1922 on natural justice, it shares a lot of the issues going on in Germany, it give an idea of what really is natural law or justice on property and rights.

    https://wetransfer.com/downloads/d10...ecipient_email
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    Default Re: Germany's constitution void? Protests for human dignity misrepresented as anti-lockdown?

    Finally this is a question for the whole artificial world that was started by the church -
    but what all of us have lost in the process is
    the natural Earth -
    time to become caretakers again.

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    Default Re: Germany's constitution void? Protests for human dignity misrepresented as anti-lockdown?

    What is von Reitz saying and what does she mean by "de facto German possession"?


    "De facto" in the U. S. means that we have surrendered our "de jure" rights as sovereigns with private property, which was among the main driving forces of the revolution; and it would be accurate to say that all these gains began to be reversed by Lincoln's Empire and subsequent British involvement.

    Although this Saxe-Coburg era is important, beforehand, there were a few things. The United Kingdom has been given to the pope, in perpetuity, in a way that has never been revoked, and at the same time has never been enforced even in terms of a tiny tribute.

    Oliver Cromwell was the first head of state to decide to use the Jewish diaspora for hegemony, and all British governments have maintained this policy ever since. Right after him was the coming of the House of Orange, a significant continental incursion, and when Bank of England started, it did not solely belong to Rothschid, but for example has William and Mary as contributing ten thousand pounds. After Orange was Hanover, still not English.

    I am also not sure that Babylon is relevant because Jubilee was a tradition of ancient kings. When I look for an ideological root, it would be Aristotle. On either the theological or materialist aspect, church or state control, it is the same.

    Victoria's mother was already Saxe Coburg, and with Albert, she married her own cousin. Before Albert, Victoria was personally interested in Tsar Alexander II, but their parents would not allow it.

    The general background of German-English collusion which overall was in making Germany pay the full price to be bludgeoned through wars into submission is largely correct, drawing Paris and New York into the fold as they went along. Whatever had been natural and just in the early part of the French Revolution had likewise been plucked into British hands and manipulation.

    The German 1949 Basic Law was not quite a consitution, because that would more or less have ceded East Germany as a foreign territory, and was intended to be temporary until reunification. Like there is no such thing as Weimar or the Reich, whatever they came up with in 1990 is a new document for a new country, it does not matter if they mostly copied 1949 or if they just squirted a bunch of glitter glue on a piece of paper.

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    Default Re: Germany's constitution void? Protests for human dignity misrepresented as anti-lockdown?

    supposedly Jürgen Möllemann (minister of education?) was "murdered" in the '90s (his parachute conveniently didn't open when skydiving) because he was trying to make public that the German constitution was not valid-

    be well all-

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    Default Re: Germany's constitution void? Protests for human dignity misrepresented as anti-lockdown?

    @kryztan wrote in another thread:

    Re: A World Pushing Back Against CV19 Lockdown: The Protests, The Revolts, The Non-Compliance
    German lawyer sent to PSYCHIATRIC WARD after mounting serious resistance to ‘unconstitutional’ Covid-19 lockdown
    15 Apr, 2020 19:32
    https://www.rt.com/news/485928-germa...chiatric-ward/



    A German medical law specialist who launched a rigorous fight against government-mandated coronavirus lockdown rules was taken to a mental health facility after expressing fears she was being targeted by ‘killers.’

    Beate Bahner had repeatedly claimed that measures taken by Berlin to stem the spread of Covid-19 threaten nothing less than the nation’s constitutional order itself. The lawyer, from the German city of Heidelberg, was forced to spend a couple of days in a local psychiatric ward after her encounter with police went terribly wrong.

    She had already been under police investigation over “calls for an illegal action” after urging Germans to go on a nationwide demonstration against the lockdown last Sunday – in open defiance of the ban on public gatherings.

    Bahner called police herself on Sunday when she feared that a car which seemingly blocked her own vehicle in at a parking lot might be driven by “killers” sent to hunt her down. When the officers arrived, she told them she felt persecuted.

    What happened next was described by the lawyer as some sort of a nightmarish ordeal.

    The police handcuffed her and pushed her to the ground “with brutal force,” Bahner said, in an audio recording attributed to her and which has since been widely circulated online. The officers drove her to a psychiatric ward, where she had to wait for a doctor, who, according to her, “had to first get some instructions from the top or from America.” Bahner said she then had to spend a night in a “Guantanamo-style High Security Ward of Psychiatry,” lying on the floor of her room and without access to a toilet.

    The police, however, paint quite a different picture. They said that the woman encountered by the patrol responding to the call “gave a very confused impression,” prompting the cops to take her to a clinic. “She fought back and kicked an officer several times,” a police spokesman told German media, adding that Bahner was eventually admitted to Heidelberg University Hospital.

    Both the police and a local public prosecutor’s office repeatedly stated that the incident has nothing to do with the ongoing investigation against Bahner. The lawyer was discharged from the mental health facility after a couple of days.

    ‘Coronoia’

    Bahner is known in Germany as an experienced specialist on medical law, penning several books on related issues. However, as Berlin introduced increasingly restrictive social-distancing rules aimed at stemming the spread of the disease, the lawyer became one of the staunchest lockdown opponents, prompting German media to dub her the “coronoia lawyer.”

    Bahner repeatedly claimed that coronavirus is virtually harmless to most people and could only affect about five percent of the population. Furthermore, the German government’s quarantine measures - including closing all non-essential businesses, canceling festivals and sports events, and banning all public gatherings – harm the nation much more than the virus, the lawyer argued.

    She slammed the measures as “blatantly unconstitutional” and said they violated Germans’ “fundamental rights” to an “unprecedented extent.” Bahner even filed a lawsuit with the German Constitutional Court last week, demanding it overrule every single order by the German federal and regional governments related to the lockdown, since they “are capable of endangering the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany, its rule of law, democracy and the liberal-democratic basic order in particular.”

    The court, however, deemed her application inadmissible on procedural grounds and summarily dismissed it last Friday. Bahner responded by publishing a post on her website declaring all lockdown measures ineffective “immediately” and calling on the public to take to the streets to protest the regulations.

    Bahner is now facing a probe over her call for protest action. Her crusade against the lockdown might, meanwhile, become outdated, as Berlin plans to ease some restrictions by early May anyway. To date, Germany has recorded more than 130,000 confirmed cases and over 3,500 Covid-19-related deaths since the start of the outbreak.

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    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    supposedly Jürgen Möllemann (minister of education?) was "murdered" in the '90s (his parachute conveniently didn't open when skydiving) because he was trying to make public that the German constitution was not valid-

    be well all-

    Larry
    I am still curious what the reasons would be. If there was no peace treaty, our first concern might be that Germany and the United States are at war. It may be correct that there is not a formal final version like Versailles, and that there is only an effective one made by a series of cessations of hostilities on all fronts. Secondly, if there is no Constitution, there is no such thing as a government.

    If that incident was from the 90s, then it may be something else about the way the 1990 session was convened or whether the signatories had authority. My question might be, if the Nazi Command never surrendered, perhaps that is what they think is missing from a more traditional formal treaty?


    I only have a partial understanding of how European republics work, but, in terms of the OP, "what it means to belong to a State or not, and the fact that countries are simply human agreements rather than natural law", does show that peace treaties are important. The issue we have here is called private property. Monarchies had this, but, I am not sure if republics do.

    So for example in the treaty where the U. S. got a lot of the Mississippi River area from France, all private property was grandfathered directly in. If it was yours, it was yours, no tax, no question, yours. And so our Constitution is based on protecting this private property. But in "de facto" terms, if we look at it now, we will find that we have signed up for a residential property, or some other offshoot, which is not protected, and not really ours. By law, or "de jure", anyone could have such private ownership, but since we have been connived into signing away ourselves and all of our land, there is, legally, no one and nothing.

    The main story about boundaries and laws--and wars--is in the transmission of property.

    The main outcome of going to the hospital in the U. S. -- is in the transmission of property.

    That is why slavery--the idea that a person is property--has been changed to corporatism--the idea that property is a person.

    Immorality is not a conspiracy, right? It's not a crime if it's how the law actually works. It never did, until a clause that was intended to help freed slaves, was granted by a judge to apply to a corporation. So the legal meaning of "person" is not "human being".

    A State is the people in a geographical area. A State is a country. My State has its own Constitution with the peculiar twist that grants the United States authority, and promises not to secede from it. The Constitution of Texas retains the right to secede.

    The closest we have to natural law is Nations, which are cultures, not political units.

    States and countries are not corporations and cannot be bankrupted; most municipalities are and can.

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    @shaberon

    thanks for the posting-

    if one has read the works of Dr. Joseph Farrell according to international protocols when a country blamed for starting a war capitulates and signs a surrender treaty, both members of the g'mt in charge at the time as well as the military have to sign it in order for it to be 100% binding;

    after WW1 members of the Weimar Republik signed but not one member of the military signed; in other words the German military never officially surrendered; as British Foreign Secretary Lord Curzon stated: "this is not a peace; this is a cease-fire for 20 yrs."-

    after WW2 members of the military signed it but not 1 member of the N**i party signed (the ruling g'mt) meaning officially the N**is never surrendered!- any wonder why so many were able to escape?- let alone over 1600 "pardoned" N**is brought to the US under "Operation Paperclip"- in other words the creme de la creme of N**zis re-located to the US-

    as the saying goes: "they lost the war but won the peace"

    so if/IF it is true that the German constitution drafted after the war is not valid (Germany didn't surrender 100%) this may explain some things-

    which also may indicate Germany has no legal right to be a member of the EU- hey, maybe it's a way for Dexit: Germany out of the EU!-

    stay well-

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    Default Re: Germany's constitution void? Protests for human dignity misrepresented as anti-lockdown?

    Yes, it is a delicate situation, "international protocols". It is like asking what is the real government of Yemen, or Libya, depends on who you ask.

    The missing German paperwork from the two wars--or one war with a break for reconstruction--is a really curious point, and, I guess, here, we have carried it in our kit for a long time and so it does not seem like news or like an issue that would suddenly come up. It is a bit weird, because nullifying the Constitution would be a mere consequence of something that would amount to declaring it as Nazi territory at war with the U. S. and others.

    There is no treaty ending the Korean War; Israel and Syria have been at war all my life. Of course Israel is the first place we might question about rights of ownership, but, on the subject of Germany--I think we can say active hostilities have ceased--however temporarily.

    So, ok. What the Treaty of Versailles meant is that "they", or, a different German government, was fined outrageous amounts of money. It wasn't paid, so, a new payment plan was drawn up. It was never paid, and a different government took power. This incurred a fresh war debt, but, if I remember rightly, this has been paid. Someone definitely paid for something. It appears that recently there have been more demands for Reparations to Greece. If one just skims the basics of that price tag, it is absolutely staggering, including forced labor camps. Again, it seems the rationale for all the violence was for this property transmission.

    As far as I know, the Mark that arose in these conditions "is" the EU. No Germany, no EU; and some opinions still say the Union is necessary to prevent another Franco-German conflict. That almost unbelievable cost appears to me to be a form of "intentional looting" like just went on with our Federal Reserve. But, if someone feels like it is not enough, that might be one motive to fuss over the missing treaty.

    If the Reich did not surrender, then, is there a default power scheme? If they are not present to exercise authority, can one throw a coup without firing a shot? Once they stop showing up for work, and they aren't making any kind of claim about trying to hold onto their jobs while living in Argentina, I do not see why you cannot replace them.

    If anything, it would probably tell a tale if we could see what happened to their personal bank accounts and so forth.

    I would guess they are nowhere near as big as Farben or Thyssen-Krupp, etc., but the legal status of their property would indicate something about the legal status of them.

    The protest seemed less about the legality and more about the first line in the Constitution:

    Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority.

    And therefor, the assumption seems to be, the Constitution must be void, which is why the government is not respecting and protecting human dignity. This would be a paradox, since if it was void, so is the government, and there would be no one violating nothing. If it is void--that isn't the government, and there is no Constitution to violate, and you are left with nothing.

    If I, as a foreigner, recognize the validity of the government and document, then you are stuck with it. And so if the complaint is really that the government is not obeying the first line, then, I would have to ask, what is "dignity" and "respect". It does not internally define dignity. If we do not know what it is, we cannot determine if it is violated. In the German language or court cases, it may be more specific, but in English it is not recognizable as a thing.

    Interestingly, a German does have inviolable freedom of conscience, so they have merely copied a U. S. document where again we have a slippery time defining conscience, but it generally means action cannot be compelled by the government. If a doctor believes abortion is murder, the government cannot force him to do it. Likewise, if an individual believes a vaccine is a toxin, they should not be forced to administer it to their bodies. A German has the right to physical integrity, which a needle through the skin obviously breaks that.

    There is no such thing as private property in it. It blatantly surrenders Germany's Federal Bank to the European Central Bank.

    In general terms:

    a German within the meaning of this Basic Law is a person who possesses German citizenship

    and

    No German may be deprived of his citizenship. Citizenship may be lost only pursuant to a law...

    So you are stuck with the citizenship simply by being born there, and, it may be notoriously difficult to get rid of.

    It does somewhat copy UN-politically correct--doublespeak like "dignity"--gosh, if someone was going to protect my valor, I would call the FBI every single day--so although it looks superficially American-ish, overall, everyone there is basically a subjugated servant of the European Central Bank.

    Smoke and mirrors. While the rest of it talks about freedom, and has some good parts, it appears to be modern feudalism. Looks like they are still paying a pretty good amount for the mere thought of unification. If you being the government's servant, and that to the grand power of all Europe, is not disturbing, then carry on. Otherwise, if it was me, I would not try to torch the whole Constitution--I would try to fix those parts. Those are along the lines of the two main basic things that law does to fool the ordinary person. If I am a citizen, I am subject to all the statutory laws, which brings it to the point if the police push me down while arresting me for standing on the sidewalk, that's just how it is. You cannot really own anything, and your finances are nowhere close to your own hands.
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    Default Re: Germany's constitution void? Protests for human dignity misrepresented as anti-lockdown?

    Every Saturday recently there have been over 10,000 people meeting to protest at the Stuttgart exhibition grounds at the "Querdenker" demo. There are other smaller demos all over Germany. We go every Sunday to one in Cologne.

    The government and mainstream media is trying to discredit them all as right wing extremists and conspiracy theorists. I've only experienced normal concerned citizens.

    The main things people are protesting about is that the government's own data shows that the Covid wave peaked before the lockdown and the lockdown had no effect, yet the governemtn continues on the same path claiming this is only the beginning. This is clearly analysed in videos from for example Prof. Homburg of Leipzig and in videos from Dr. Schiffmann. In english, the videos of John Ioannidis of Stanford Universoty clearly show this too, The goverment does not acknowledge this fact and instead has said a second and possibly third wave will come. They ordered mandatory masks for shopping and public transport although the WHO and Chamber of Doctors say it's pointless and it will more likely make people ill wearing them.

    A shocking internal report from the German Home Office (Bundesministerium Inneres, BMI) to which 10 experts contributed showed that the measures taken were overbearing and unnecessary and it was in fact a false alarm with the Covid wave being equivalent to an influenza wave. The goverment has distanced itself from the report and not responded to its contents.

    The collateral damage is immense both in terms of lives lost through suicide and people not being operated or given the health care needed as well as economically.

    Then there was the government's attempt to bring in a law for disease immunity passports which was effectively requiring mandatory vaccination. The goverment only backed down on this due to the demonstrations. It is likely however that they will try and do this now on a European level.

    Fot the above reasons, ie wanting the immediate reversal of the lockdown measures, opening all businesses, reinstatement of constitutional rights, preventing unnecessary laws for increased surveilance, control and mandatory vaccination, is why I think most of us have been using our right to demonstrate.

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    Default Re: Germany's constitution void? Protests for human dignity misrepresented as anti-lockdown?

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    Fot the above reasons, ie wanting the immediate reversal of the lockdown measures, opening all businesses, reinstatement of constitutional rights, preventing unnecessary laws for increased surveilance, control and mandatory vaccination, is why I think most of us have been using our right to demonstrate.
    Yes, I think this is about the same in most places.

    Surprisingly, there are some people, even locally, who support the measures. They don't really protest, but probably answer polls that say "yes, keep going".

    If no one had said "new virus" and over-reacted, and it just spread normally like any flu, I doubt anyone would have noticed anything. Not many. Of course, when it re-surges on wave two, three, etc., it will be about the same, no one will notice much unless "new" is pinned to the topic. I would think that resources are better spent protecting the vulnerable, than as blanket measures over everybody.

    The Constitutional issues are just going to keep sitting in place. In essence, it has turned a government that might shoot you in the head for protesting, to what there is now, which perhaps itself it a bit of relief. But you remain unable to own anything, and are not free, but more or less a servant of Europe. This may not make a difference to anyone; are they even aware of the situation?

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