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    I would like to propose my insights on the approaching New world under development and the fight for power and control over what that becomes. Curious if you all can add to it or counter it.

    So, I guess its obvious that the Democrats vs. Republicans is really the Lawyers vs. Corporate Owners. Big government gives more power to the law makers to create some kind of future socialism. A group of Authoritarians on top ruling a neo-socialist society. Right wing gives less power to the government, and more to business moguls, until they eventually overpower them and pretty much have control.

    I just watched a guy on Rogan's Podcast, a marxist economist (forget his name), but he gave an interesting perspective. He said that in recent history the people rose up and said no to King dictators ruling over all of society. However, we didn't get rid of Kings altogether, it just became many smaller kings ruling over business enterprises. The owners of those businesses are essentially disctators within companies. I realize that some have boards of directors , but not sure how much difference that makes. What he didn't mention is how Enterprise Kings like Gates and Bezos are running kingdoms that are becoming more wealthy than some countries. So, eventually we sort of end up back in a similar predicament with a few kings ruling society.

    Now for the interesting realization i recently had regarding the current events unfolding.
    The Q Anon phenomena amongst other things triggered this line of thinking. Is Trump really taking out the dark occultists. Was he good buddies with JFK Jr. who swore to take out his dads murderers - likely the dark occultists. Or is Trump just another faction looking to dominate us with a slightly different system and ideology. Or, is it all just theatre to look like He defeats the "bad guys" to usher in the globalists plan all along.

    What i realized is that from what i've seen the politicians getting busted for pedo/child trafficking seem more deomcrat. It makes sense the satanists/occultists/etc. would be backing the democrats. After all, they want the MOST liberal society possible, where they are allowed to do ANYTHING !! lol

    Those who are not into that and are aware of that group behind the democrats would surely join the christian conservative side. Heck it makes me more conservative just thinking about it. lol

    IN other words , Rebublican is the Corporatocracy/Technocracy NWO and possibly pro life, just wanting to get us under control and control how much life we can create and some rules on how we live our life. Democrat would be some kind of Socialist Tehnocracy, where the Dictator and his minions have summoned and are possessed by "Satan" and whatever dark lords. Who really knows with them, maybe they plan to open some dark dimension.

    To be honest, the technological prison is a concern either way, so I guess, if this is the case, I'd like to see the Republicans expose the horrible stuff as a way to look heroic and take the power. Society needs this in the light and shut down anyway. After that , then we would need to be concerned not to worship the "good guys" and fall into a different kind of trap. So, i'm not sure this is about Trump and the "good guys" as it could be the lesser of 2 evils. Alot in the elite circles are control and power freaks but i think a lot of them are pretty sickened at how twisted some are.

    Are left and right wing an illusion and the same thing or has this been the struggle all along. Satanic vs Christian

    I even watched Trumps roast of Hillary the other day and he joked about her being out in public pretending to not hate Catholics as she sat next to a bishop. lol Is that a subtle way of calling her out as a satanist/luciferian/or whatever. If you havent seen it, you should its pretty blatant and the looks on their faces

    I guess that is a good start. I'm sure I will have some more to say after i post and re-read it.
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    One more thing i forgot. Is it possible that the few at the top of the NWO pyramid see these satanic abusers sort of like Thugs, mobsters, police, etc. Some kind of mid-level ignorant, violent hacks. Perhaps they think that they are a bunch of egomaniac fools drunk on drugs and power and plan to sacrifice them as pawns and serve them some karma. According to Mark Passio, the Satanists see the police and soldiers as dumb obedient dogs and hate them the most. Which is why they wear dog tags. So, are they at the top or do they just think they are. Similar to their delusion of being all powerful gods. I mean i guess in one way we could say that at the top are angels or other interdimensional beings who are orchestrating the balance of powers between the light and the dark. So, in that way, yea i'd say they arent at the top of the power structure, since i think it goes all the way up!. But not sure who is at the top as far as humans born on this earth.
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    This is in line with my own thinking about these matters. It is difficult for us to see the systems within which we are ensconced, sometimes. We may have the best of intentions and align with the side we believe is right, without realizing that it is a side and, as a side, it is not balanced. It is a singular perspective within a duality, an oppositional relationship which is how politics remains so dynamic and evolutionary in nature.

    It is absolutely clear that the "Patriots" want to dominate as badly as the "Globalists".

    The force that Drumpf has unleashed in the past few days has the entire world gasping in disbelief that this is America.

    Or, clapping in support for the strongman tactics as he takes out those SJWs and Lefties. Fascism is fine if it takes out the "bad guys" on the other side of the contrived duality. And that would also be the case if it were Globalists in the ascendancy in America right now as well.

    A perfect system to stand outside of and behind and control by throwing economic and media "weight" to either or both sides, stoking the flames or merely tending them, depending upon the place in the greater scheme of things we are currently experiencing.
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    Oh and is the following just a coincidence?

    If the satanic types are running the left wing, it just so happens it is named "Left wing" for the Left-hand pathers ? Just thought of that possible connection.

    Yes, I agree Mark. THe problem is that people want to always be on a team. Feel they are on aligned with the side with a good cause. It would be better if we just stay calm and quiet and stopped clinging to beliefs that we couldn't know for sure. Stay on the fence with no agenda -balance.

    In my view, i'm not so worried about the "patriots" dominating so much. I'm more confident that the rising consciousness can deal with pro-life controlling humans. Its death cults of people who hate life, hate universal laws that limit them that they think God mandates or some nonsense, when it really is intrinsic to the design of all things being connected fractally. They enjoy causing suffering and are far from sober in so many ways.

    I just don't think Trump enjoys murder or seeing people suffer. So, relatively speaking , it may be good for him to stay in power. He is probably doing some good stirring us up as well , so the people will get more focused on what matters.
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    The robber baron and other globalist families who run the deep state influence both sides. They use whichever side is in power to further their goals. They've bifurcated public opinion into two camps so that whichever camp you are in, you are supporting globalism. If you vote conservative you are supporting "free" trade (the WTO), global US military domination and foreign wars, and transnational corporations. If you vote liberal you are supporting open borders, UN gun control, China and a whole host of global institutions. Never mind that your liberal or conservatism stems from cultural values.
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    I just don't think Trump enjoys murder or seeing people suffer. So, relatively speaking , it may be good for him to stay in power. He is probably doing some good stirring us up as well , so the people will get more focused on what matters.
    I think it helps clarify these matters by looking for overall patterns over time. Let’s just take the current vs. the last administration and look for commonalities.

    Under Obama, were there innocent civilians overseas suffering from our offensive wars, drone strikes, sanctions, covert regime change operations and such; and have these situations ended or gotten less so?

    Was Wall Street rewarded lavishly during the last Great Recession, while the average people were kicked to the curb, and has that not just happened again?

    Was the federal government going after whistleblowers last go around, and has that now stopped?

    How about across the board access to quality health care without risk of bankruptcy? More access now than before? The same? Worse?

    Just asking the questions here.

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    I just don't think Trump enjoys murder or seeing people suffer. So, relatively speaking , it may be good for him to stay in power. He is probably doing some good stirring us up as well , so the people will get more focused on what matters.
    I think it helps clarify these matters by looking for overall patterns over time. Let’s just take the current vs. the last administration and look for commonalities.

    Under Obama, were there innocent civilians overseas suffering from our offensive wars, drone strikes, sanctions, covert regime change operations and such; and have these situations ended or gotten less so?

    Was Wall Street rewarded lavishly during the last Great Recession, while the average people were kicked to the curb, and has that not just happened again?

    Was the federal government going after whistleblowers last go around, and has that now stopped?

    How about across the board access to quality health care without risk of bankruptcy? More access now than before? The same? Worse?

    Just asking the questions here.
    Yes, I understand those points. I'm sure mostly things haven't changed or really improved much or maybe gotten a bit worse. But, the momentum and current is so strong that anyone jumping into the presidential hotseat is likely unable to do too much positive change quickly if that is their intent.

    My point is that I would much rather have an egotistical power hungry president that is pro-life and human, than someone that is pro-death and gets pleasure from horrific autrocities. Does, anyone see Trump as being a sadistic psychopath? The way he gets upset , i think he does have emotions, even if he is such a pile in some ways lol.

    I understand what TomKat is saying as well. Are all these globalist bloodline families on the same page? Are they all dark lords, drinking adrenochrome or whatever? Or are they more sophisticated and complicated than that. I guess it comes down to what their ideologies are. Who wants to enslave or wipe out the human race. Who just wants to create a global system that ensures they get to be in power and represent Earth when dealing with the galactic community. The second may be crazy enough to do whatever to have power over the globe, but not be pro-death, the first is more about hating humans or the humans they consider dumb animals.

    Also, for all we know, the bloodline families could be dominated by some ET's. Maybe they are crapping their pants and following orders from much scarier beings.
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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
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    I just don't think Trump enjoys murder or seeing people suffer. So, relatively speaking , it may be good for him to stay in power. He is probably doing some good stirring us up as well , so the people will get more focused on what matters.
    I think it helps clarify these matters by looking for overall patterns over time. Let’s just take the current vs. the last administration and look for commonalities.

    Under Obama, were there innocent civilians overseas suffering from our offensive wars, drone strikes, sanctions, covert regime change operations and such; and have these situations ended or gotten less so?

    Was Wall Street rewarded lavishly during the last Great Recession, while the average people were kicked to the curb, and has that not just happened again?

    Was the federal government going after whistleblowers last go around, and has that now stopped?

    How about across the board access to quality health care without risk of bankruptcy? More access now than before? The same? Worse?

    Just asking the questions here.
    Quote Posted by Merkaba360 (here)
    Yes, I understand those points. I'm sure mostly things haven't changed or really improved much or maybe gotten a bit worse. But, the momentum and current is so strong that anyone jumping into the presidential hotseat is likely unable to do too much positive change quickly if that is their intent.
    Okay, well then just to be clear we're agreed, these still unaddressed issues listed above cause much pain and misery to countless people? But that's all off the table to blame any sitting president, because, there's simply nothing can be done so we move on from there?

    Quote Posted by Merkaba360 (here)
    My point is that I would much rather have an egotistical power hungry president that is pro-life and human, than someone that is pro-death and gets pleasure from horrific autrocities.
    Well now this is where it starts getting tricky, because it sounds like you're brushing off the above as not really being atrocities, they're just, there. What has Trump shown you exactly, to demonstrate that he is any more pro life or pro human than his predecessor? Beyond lip service.

    Serious question.

    Quote Posted by Merkaba360 (here)
    Does, anyone see Trump as being a sadistic psychopath? The way he gets upset , i think he does have emotions, even if he is such a pile in some ways lol.
    Many seem to have missed it, but I watched the live feed of him following behind charging riot police firing tear gas and flash bangs, to disperse perfectly legal peaceful protestors so he could throw red meat to his base by walking to St. John's across the street for a photo op of him holding up the Bible.

    Unless we're just going on the wild assumption that only democrats eat babies for breakfast, and therefore republicans are better, how exactly do we tell who's a psychopath and who's not?

    From what I've seen anyway, Trump only gets upset when something doesn't go precisely his way, or if something considered even remotely unsavory affects him personally (Of course not at all unusual for a politician of any given color).

    I reckon what I'm trying to get at here is, exactly what are the guidelines here of who's a swamp critter, and who's just in the swamp neck deep, but in no way part of it? How do we tell them apart, does it really just break down to that only democrats tend to be Satan worshipers, and child molesters?
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    I would say there is a kind of markable turning point where TomKat's description of these two rivals actually being together in one bundle becomes real.

    Western civilization is a failure more or less deriving from Aristotle. Historically, on a materialistic side, was Venice, and on the other, theological side, Roman Church.

    And so from ca. year 800 on, the major grip on Europe's development was in that the Venetians really hated France, staunchly Catholic.

    In simple terms of difference, the Venetian politic is to only have a figurehead in charge, and rule by council (of oligarchy). Whereas the Catholic, or eventually Jesuit, preference, is a dictator. The Venetian practices are more along the lines of wear down, erode, dissolve. The Jesuit preference is voluntary self-surrender.

    After a millenium or so of outright conflict, the two, coalesced, through the London School of Economics. Soon, this resulted in the U. S. Federal Reserve Bank, which led to the global Bank of International Settlements, which is where we are now.

    Either mindset desires "the system" to continue operating in some way. The stress of a broken family is a Venetian experience, whereas Jesuitry is more like the NFL. People swim in these mixed influences, having not much else readily available.

    Anti-Masonic Party...Whigs...Republicans...Fascist

    Populism...Democratic...U. N. World Government

    When one gets the joke that kings have simply been replaced by banks, then perhaps it may seem futile to argue these sides against each other, and more prudent to dismiss it all. That was already accomplished one time by the American Revolution, and if it had remained our guide, none of this would have happened.

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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    I would say there is a kind of markable turning point where TomKat's description of these two rivals actually being together in one bundle becomes real.

    Western civilization is a failure more or less deriving from Aristotle. Historically, on a materialistic side, was Venice, and on the other, theological side, Roman Church.

    And so from ca. year 800 on, the major grip on Europe's development was in that the Venetians really hated France, staunchly Catholic.

    In simple terms of difference, the Venetian politic is to only have a figurehead in charge, and rule by council (of oligarchy). Whereas the Catholic, or eventually Jesuit, preference, is a dictator. The Venetian practices are more along the lines of wear down, erode, dissolve. The Jesuit preference is voluntary self-surrender.

    After a millenium or so of outright conflict, the two, coalesced, through the London School of Economics. Soon, this resulted in the U. S. Federal Reserve Bank, which led to the global Bank of International Settlements, which is where we are now.

    Either mindset desires "the system" to continue operating in some way. The stress of a broken family is a Venetian experience, whereas Jesuitry is more like the NFL. People swim in these mixed influences, having not much else readily available.

    Anti-Masonic Party...Whigs...Republicans...Fascist

    Populism...Democratic...U. N. World Government

    When one gets the joke that kings have simply been replaced by banks, then perhaps it may seem futile to argue these sides against each other, and more prudent to dismiss it all. That was already accomplished one time by the American Revolution, and if it had remained our guide, none of this would have happened.
    WOW this must be the most concise depiction of the evolution of modern politics that I've read. Kudos bro!

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    Look, I don't support any party or Trump. Of course there is going to be people doing these things on both sides. But if i wanted to make all these perversions legal, I don't think I would conclude its easier to push them from the conservative party. So, no need to see this as black and white extremes. I'm wondering if the left has the majority of satanists pushing the left, even if some are sitting on the right. AS Tomkat said, each party is used to push certain agendas, because those agendas fit in with the left or right ideology better. Im just throwing out a thought that if this situation is often known in elite circles (why is hollywood so left?) then it could cause a tendency for those repulsed by child trafficking, etc. to oppose that from the right.

    Im not brushing off anything. I just know that with so much ignorance, egoism, lunacy, etc. There will be plenty of atrocities and that sucks. But the death cult is gonna be worse, so, lets figure out who they are.

    I'm pretty confident, the satanic types tend to hate life, hate the prison/rules. Deep down they hate themselves. They act out revenge thru terror and death, probably cuz they were horribly abused. I could be wrong, but I tend to think Trump enjoys his life and power over others too. Either way, we need technology to scan peoples Brains, Auras, whatever and determine who has the real nasty energy.

    I understand the view that the Globalists are on top puppeteering both sides. however duality is so powerful and intrinsic to life. So, I kind of doubt such elite egos dont have their differences and inside warring over the details. Thus, we get elite factions, that are paradoxically on the same side and struggling for power over some details. Certain agendas they probably all share, like hogging more money and sucking energy from the poor. Wiping out a lot of the population, maybe not. Afterall biodiversity is good and we should be heading out beyond earth soon enough.
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    Meerkeeba,

    The dynamics you are outlining parallel pre war Germany. Berlin represented depravity and Munich represented "family values". And btw, Berlin was the cultural and artistic center, too, like Hollywood.

    But conservatism, represented by Munich which eventually became the Nazi party excelled at top down organization, manipulation, propaganda, much like Christian fanaticism within the most conservative elements of the military, which radiates from the American heartland.

    Anyway, we all know what being a conservative in Germany led to. They had Jews. American conservatives have "bleeding heart liberals" and minority groups to scapegoat.

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    For years, America has been pushed increasingly into a dichotomy. It is left vs. right. Democrat vs. Republican. But it doesn't break down that simply into Christian vs Satanists. I think there's a bigger picture to consider.

    (Preface #1: I use the TPTB to mean The Powers That Be, however you'd like to identify the powers/controllers that are behind the recognized leaders, because the point I'm trying to make isn't about identifying who they are specifically.

    Preface #2: This is pretty specific to America and what is currently going, hence choosing this thread to post in.)


    I think we at PA understand that the dichotomy as a design is to keep people divided so that TPTB can continue toward their agendas. TPTB are afraid of the people uniting against them, so they do everything they can to keep them divided.

    IMO, the dichotomy is supported and kept in place by the following:

    The right side, represented by Republicans, are for law and order. Structure. Honesty. Integrity. They see this achievable in upholding traditional values, i.e. traditional religion and traditional government. Organized religion and military are often perceived as the perfect examples of law and order. None of this is bad. But what they don't see is that what has been traditional has never been honest. It's structure has been kept at the expense of the lives of others. They do not see the damage it has caused.

    TPTB's right-sided manipulators understand what they value and what they fear. They seek to keep conservatives focused on what they fear most: chaos and lies.

    The left side, represented by Democrats, are for change. They value compassion and equality. They recognize that the traditional system is flawed and not equal, and thus they want to change it. They want to progress. This is not bad, either. But what they don't see is that change requires structure. This means that they need the people of the right to work with them. They need the structure and they need to work together.

    TPTB's left-sided manipulators understand what they value and what they fear. They seek to keep progressives focused on what they fear most: a continuation of injustices.

    So the dichotomy is perpetuated by TPTB that pits perceived unjust structure against perceived unjust chaos.

    Part of the agenda of keeping everything orderly means that everyone must align to their proper "roles." So on the right, you find the the extreme part of religious structure. Christianity, in all its historical, official flavors, has often filled that role by oppressing and vilifying anyone that doesn't keep their religious structure. Satanist. Occultist. Witch. Devil-Worshiper. Many people here on PA would have these terms thrown at them because they believe outside the Christian narrative. So please, let's not discredit the discussion by equating things like occult to pedophilia.

    And considering the amount of pedophilia and abuse that has been perpetrated by organized religion and the military, it's hardly fair to hold the party of change (liberals/progressive) responsible, when it's the party of structure that upholds these organizations.

    Back to the dichotomy:
    The left is easy to inflame and stoke into action. They exist for change. But they are chaotic. As long as they remain chaotic, the right automatically resists them. The dichotomy is easily reinforced. However, if the right joins in the call for change, they bring order to it. There cannot be a joining of change and order. That would spell disaster for TPTB.

    I don't know what the goal of COVID was/is, but I don't think it's gone down like it was supposed to. I think it's exposed more cracks in the dichotomy than TPTB cared for, and they needed something to put the focus back where they wanted it. They must control the narrative. They must manipulate the change.

    Enter George Floyd. His murder is the spark that ignited the fire. TPTB are fanning the flames in the direction they want it to go, which is anywhere but a united front against them.

    (Let me be clear: the tinder for this particular fire has been building for centuries. There is no need to create it. It was only a matter of waiting and watching. Then once the spark hit, all they needed to do was fan it into a roaring fire.)

    If they have their way, they will fan those flames into a civil war, which will be once again in their favor because they get to continue to control and manipulate the two sides.

    So IMO, there is not a Democrat NWO vs Conservative NWO. It's TPTB as puppet master who is controlling both hands to hold their own NWO. Both sides are being played here.

    What is needed is for people to move beyond their egos and listen to the other side. They need to understand that it is not us vs them, it is not we win/they lose. The only way for the people to win is for both "sides" to win. This means actually listening to each other and understanding that each side has value and legitimate concerns.

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    hey, excellent post there Sarah!

    this short video piggybacks on some of your ideas:

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    Quote Posted by Sarah Rainsong (here)
    The right side, represented by Republicans, are for law and order. Structure. Honesty. Integrity. They see this achievable in upholding traditional values, i.e. traditional religion and traditional government. Organized religion and military are often perceived as the perfect examples of law and order. None of this is bad. But what they don't see is that what has been traditional has never been honest. It's structure has been kept at the expense of the lives of others. They do not see the damage it has caused.
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    The left side, represented by Democrats, are for change. They value compassion and equality. They recognize that the traditional system is flawed and not equal, and thus they want to change it. They want to progress. This is not bad, either. But what they don't see is that change requires structure. This means that they need the people of the right to work with them. They need the structure and they need to work together.
    These seem like idealised views of the Right and Left. The Right's supposed loyalty to business seems just a cover for bigger corporations and the Left's loyalty to the poor is a cover for bigger government. And this is where the Left and Right meet: global corporations in league with global institutions. The New World Order.

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Quote Posted by Sarah Rainsong (here)
    The right side, represented by Republicans, are for law and order. Structure. Honesty. Integrity. They see this achievable in upholding traditional values, i.e. traditional religion and traditional government. Organized religion and military are often perceived as the perfect examples of law and order. None of this is bad. But what they don't see is that what has been traditional has never been honest. It's structure has been kept at the expense of the lives of others. They do not see the damage it has caused.
    ...
    The left side, represented by Democrats, are for change. They value compassion and equality. They recognize that the traditional system is flawed and not equal, and thus they want to change it. They want to progress. This is not bad, either. But what they don't see is that change requires structure. This means that they need the people of the right to work with them. They need the structure and they need to work together.
    These seem like idealised views of the Right and Left. The Right's supposed loyalty to business seems just a cover for bigger corporations and the Left's loyalty to the poor is a cover for bigger government. And this is where the Left and Right meet: global corporations in league with global institutions. The New World Order.
    Yes, in a sense they are. The point of those particular paragraphs was to focus on the better qualities of each, so yeah, the idealized versions. Of course, both sides have problems of their own as well, even without being manipulated. And each sides weaknesses are easily used to further NWO agendas, as you point out.

    But they could also meet together to FIGHT the NWO, if they can learn to recognize and use each others strengths, instead of always fighting.

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    CHINA VS BASEL: BATTLE OF THE GLOBALISTS
    FOURTH GENERATION WARFARE, GRAY ZONE EXPLOITS & ALICE IN WONDERLAND TECHNIQUE
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    "Last night, I joined Jimi Brent on KCOR’s Inside the Matrix to engage in what Joseph Farrell calls “High-octane speculation”, discussing the Fourth Generation Warfare tactics being deployed against us, like the #Coronahoax, the gaslighting Fake News, the Internet censorship, the Antifa riots, the police stand-downs ordered by Democrat mayors and calls to de-fund and disband police departments. Then we have the coordinated statements against Trump by George W Bush, James Mattis, John Kelly, Colin Powell, and church leaders and the insubordination of Mark Esper. All of these constitute “gray zone exploits” in an environment where everything is weaponized, propagandized and infused with the “Alice in Wonderland” technique of torture-by-nonsense: you can only have sex wearing a mask and maybe the shutdown that destroyed $5 trillion dollars of wealth wasn’t necessary.

    Then we talk about who is waging this irregular war, starting with all those involved in the massive graft and corruption at the State Department and kickbacks from USAID and anyone connected with the Clinton Foundation, Uranium One, Burisma and the billions of dollars stolen from Ukraine and other countries. The vast majority are Democrats, several of whom were introduced to us during the fake impeachment last Fall.

    Then there are the high-level Federal agents involved Crossfire Hurricane, aka Spygate aka Obamagate, 35+ of whom are about to be subpoenaed by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    Then there are the Big Pharma Globalists who authored the #Coronahoax and now the riots, desperate to take down the US and desperate to force-vaccinate everyone with their bioweapons.

    CHINA vs BASEL

    Then I get into a working model of the two battling Globalist factions, based on my conversations with a retired Marine Spec Ops Captain who went on to become a successful currency trader and investor. After studying the situation for years he’s told me the following:

    There are two main factions of the New World Order: The original central bankers, who I call the “Basel Globalists” and the breakaway Bush-Clinton cabal, who decided they should be in charge, who I call the “China Globalists”.

    George Bush Senior set up a massive parallel economy through the Black Projects that the CIA couldn’t get funding for. The goal was to replace the SWIFT financial processing system and to take over the emission of the US dollar from the Basel-based controllers of the global central banking system.

    The Nazis had previously attempted to usurp control of the right to issue currency and Bush Senior continued their work. The Clintons became involved with Bush’s cocaine-and-weapons trafficking operation through the air field at Mena, Arkansas and grew the crime syndicate via the Clinton Foundation, stealing millions in relief funds from Haiti, taking millions in kickbacks from USAID, selling 80% of the US production of uranium to Russia and too many other epic scams to list here.

    Starting in the early ’70s, China started being set up by Basel to replace the US as the dominant superpower. Recall that Bush Senior was the first US envoy to the People’s Republic of China in 1974 before his stint as Director of Central Intelligence starting in 1976. The Bush-Clinton Cabal planned to build up China to take over everything for themselves, starting with the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which would have nullified US national sovereignty similarly to the way the European Union supersedes the sovereignty of its member nations.

    For those leery of Trump’s relationship with Israel and who believe that he is also a “Deep Stater”, my source agrees that Trump is not attempting to end the central banking system, as claimed by Dave from the X22 Report and others. Trump is working to dismantle everything the Bush-Clinton-Obama crime family did and he’s renegotiating Basel’s deal to one of earning a small percentage on all transaction processing, instead of controlling dollar emission.

    Tentatively, allies of the two sides look like this:

    CHINA GLOBALISTS

    Bush-Clinton-Obama
    Rockefeller
    Bill Gates
    Big Tech
    Big Pharma
    “Woke” corporations (Nike, Gillette, etc.)
    World Economic Forum
    UN
    Agenda 21
    Pope Francis
    Technocrats
    Teacher’s Unions
    Neocons
    Communists
    Antifa

    BASEL GLOBALISTS

    Central Banks – including Central Bank of China
    Israel-Mossad
    Saudi Arabia
    Big Oil
    Freemasons
    Trump
    US Military
    Trucker’s Union
    (other Labor Unions are starting to move into this camp)
    Steve Mnuchin
    BlackRock

    STILL IN PLAY

    Rothschilds
    Wall Street
    British Royals
    EU
    Russia – anti-Basel but would choose it over China
    Big US Banks:
    • JPMorgan Chase
    • Bank of America
    • Citigroup
    • Wells Fargo
    • Goldman Sachs Group
    • Morgan Stanley
    • Bank of New York Mellon
    • State Street
    • U.S. Bancorp
    • Truist Financial
    • PNC Financial Services Group
    • Capital One Financial
    • Northern Trust
    • Ally Financial
    • American Express
    • Citizens Financial Group
    • Discover Financial Services
    • Fifth Third Bancorp
    • Huntington Bancshares
    • KeyCorp
    • Regions Financial "

    Each breath a gift...
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    Quote Posted by fractal being (here)
    WOW this must be the most concise depiction of the evolution of modern politics that I've read. Kudos bro!
    On one hand, we are talking about the west, as a sort of historical battle between a fascistic city of Rome, and a more communistic Venice. These became forces since the Empire of Rome lost its say.

    But on the other hand, during the time of old Rome, the more relevant and successful city in terms of culture and trade was Byzantium. Only the western empire around the city of Rome crumbled. The eastern empire simply continued in Byzantium for another thousand years. With, perhaps, Venetian information and money, Byzantium was over-run by Turks, and the remainder of its influence retired to Moscow.

    Humanism was more of a Byzantine value, and it is this we are trying to say arose in Prague, Tuscany, Paris, Vienna, and Berlin, before being routed and retiring to St. Petersburg.

    If one does not take the choice of limited views as offered by western censorship, they can be seen as unnecessary and bothersome.

    Basel v. China is perhaps a reasonable estimate towards the next major step. But "China" is mostly non-Chinese. It would be difficult to dismiss out of hand the extent of nationalism in China and even racism. So even though China is "compromised" and there is undoubtedly collusion with foreign factions, in the long run, there may not be such a thing as "China in the palm of our hand".

    As far as I know, one of the only legal stops to the spread of world government is the use of Lawful Money, that of the state treasury. This was done in early America, and, ironically, the only historical escapee was the Nazis. Whatever they may have been, they were not stupid about everything, and so if we see the debacles of WWI payment plans and what a mess the country was in, looking at why they chose to use a "real" Mark and how this seemed to repair everything in a quite brief timespan, is useful. From the view of the Synarchist plotters, they were *not* in the trans-Atlantic empire, and the second war was run to put them into it. This makes it sound like the use of state-based currency was an obstacle, an ancient German relic to be ploughed under, and now their constitution says they are a vassal of the European Central Bank. Synarchy is the self-name of "hidden oligarchy". It is only semi-hidden, since we can find how interlocking directorates work, but, it is not openly stated, like in old Venice, you'd know Count Frederico was on the Council and so forth.

    Germany breaking its chains and seeking rapprochement with Russia has always been greatly feared by the Anglo-American branch. A lot of energy has been spent to merge Germany with British and American destinies.

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